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DanNeely -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 1:08:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jukipo Situation on 7/27/41 after 10 turns. AGN is on the gates of Leningrad. The enemy has not managed to form a solid line of defense. Supply situation is not good, but I must press hard when the enemy is weak. I'm really eager to see how the hyper aggressive advance plays out for you vs Larry's much more cautious and supply preserving advance. I went back and compared your T10 position vs the big maps in his thread: on the southern 2/3rds of the front you're roughly 3 turns ahead, but much farther in the far north where it took him to t20 to reach lake Il'men in force and until nearly t30 to reach the outskirts of Lenningrad.

DanNeely -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 4:14:54 AM)
With your next turn, could you include a zoomed out screenshot of activity in Finland? I'm a bit curious if you're massively ahead of schedule there too.

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 7:09:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DanNeely I'm really eager to see how the hyper aggressive advance plays out for you vs Larry's much more cautious and supply preserving advance. I’m not hyper aggressive. Barbarossa was a surprise for Stalin and I’m going to keep hammering him when his pants are down. I will not give him time to breathe. I believe sweat saves blood. I’m on the right track if my divisions are tired marching.

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 7:25:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DanNeely With your next turn, could you include a zoomed out screenshot of activity in Finland? I'm a bit curious if you're massively ahead of schedule there too. I’m not massively ahead of schedule. Smolensk was historically captured on 16th of July. I encircled the city on 23rd of July. So, I’m actually a week behind! Manstein reached Porkov on 10th of July, I was there 16th July. Again, a week behind! Larry and cpt flam are massively behind the schedule and it’s going to cost them blood later.

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 7:51:15 AM)
Situation in Finland on 7/27/41 Advance to Murmansk has stopped. There is no road and the supply is non-existent. It’s impossible to go on. I may have to go back to Litsa River. 36th Geb Korps has advanced along Salla-Alakurtti railroad. Alakurtti is heavily fortified, I have not made serious attempts to take it. Finnish forces have reached Lake Onega and are continuing to the Svir River. [image]local://upfiles/53085/93338F3683F3477998E8B6C676538864.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 8:21:17 AM)
Turn 11, 7/27/41 AGN 8th Panzer Division advances towards Staraya Russa. There is a meeting engagement with Soviet 262 Rifle division. The enemy withdraws but the 8th Pz is unable to continue attack because lack of supplies. Kingisepp is captured and the road is open to Leningrad! 18th Armee captures Tallinn. 36th Motorized Division captures Novgorod. Supply situation is difficult, railhead is near Voru. [image]local://upfiles/53085/BA4B4E378C674BE5A1CB67794B879265.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 8:22:57 AM)
Turn 12, 7/30/41 AGN Staraya Russa 8th Panzer Division assaults enemy positions near Staraya Russa and the town is captured. 16th Armee fights hard in the middle near Luga. Bridgehead is formed but there is no breakthrough. In the north the situation is much better. 18th Armee divisions arrive near Oranienbaum and the enemy line seems weak. It may be possible to drive right to the city! [image]local://upfiles/53085/B020D8A4C16B4B2A884EDEE9C3F529E3.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 8:27:52 AM)
Turns 11 and 12, 7/27/41 - 8/3/41 AGC New Orders Smolensk was captured on turn 11, AGC has reached its first major goal. It’s time to think about the next objective. AGC will take Moscow. The first stage of assault will be the capture of Rzhev - Vyazma - Bryansk - Orel line. The enemy is weak north of Smolensk – Vyazma highway. 57th Panzer Korps is attacking to Vladimirskoye. 2nd Panzer Armee is going to capture Bryansk. Fresh divisions are moving to SE. 10th Motorized is still resupplying near Mogilev. [image]local://upfiles/53085/D20A8AF4747A4492B2D2730FE34B8DB6.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 8:45:31 AM)
Turns 11 and 12, 7/27/41 - 8/3/41 AGS Dneper 16th Motorized Division fought hard crossing Pripyat River. Division was completely exhausted and suffered 25% casualties. Thanks to the bravery of the division, 55th Korps was able to cross the river. I’m trying crossings on several locations. Dneper is tough nut to crack. [image]local://upfiles/53085/F65354B375E24BBA9CAB17DAB1B41A32.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 8:53:58 AM)
Situation on Black Sea region on 8/3/41 Rumanians have encircled Odessa. I’m going to let them to take the city. 11th Armee continues east towards Krim. [image]local://upfiles/53085/DB988145897E4CF7BA70E64C14A83819.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 3:01:26 PM)
Turn 13, 8/3/41 AGN New Orders The enemy fortifications around Leningrad are stronger than anticipated. It’s not possible to breakthrough before we get more supplies and heavy artillery. 4th Panzer Armee will advance around Leningrad to the Northeast. Objectives are Volkhov River bridges. The goal is to meet Finnish forces at Lodeynoye Pole and seal the Leningrad pocket. 18th Armee takes positions around Leningrad outer fortifications and waits for supplies. 16th Armee guards the AGN right flank. Luftwaffe made several bombing runs against Volkhov and Kirishi bridges and by the end of turn the bridges were destroyed. There was a stuka attack against enemy ships in Gulf of Viipuri. Battleship October Revolution was sunk but the losses were high, 16 planes shot down and over 50 damaged. 8th Panzer Division is resting near Staraya Russa. Railhead is north of Pskov. [image]local://upfiles/53085/BA8F7945A1514FEAA514C894BB972C98.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 3:03:47 PM)
Turn 13, 8/3/41 AGC 57th Panzer Korps advanced from Vladimirskoye to Vyazma-Rzhev railroad. 2nd Panzer Armee was moving SE towards Bryansk. [image]local://upfiles/53085/D3BCE87A12554E21B28B69D7AC6ECC80.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 3:21:30 PM)
Turn 13, 8/3/41 AGS Across Dneper 48th Panzer Korps crossed Desna River unopposed near Chernobyl. At the same time another crossing was successful near Kaniv. Das Reich Division stormed enemy positions after a massive artillery barrage. Now two bridgeheads must meet and seal the Kiev pocket. 6th Army was resting. Kiev is so heavily defended it would cost too much to attack head on. [image]local://upfiles/53085/81D9778B1AAB43E19F6F870301A6B06A.jpg[/image]

larryfulkerson -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 3:28:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jukipo 48th Panzer Korps crossed Desna River unopposed near Chernobyl. At the same time another crossing was successful near Kaniv. Das Reich Division stormed enemy positions after a massive artillery barrage. Now two bridgeheads must meet and seal the Kiev pocket. Great move. I really like how you're doing this. I'm going to watch your AAR with great interest. Thanks for doing it. quote: ORIGINAL: Jukipo 6th Army was resting. Kiev is so heavily defended it would cost too much to attack head on. I once played a game where the Soviet player had vacated Kiev entirely. I just walked in and turned the lights on. Never happened since.

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 4:31:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson Great move. I really like how you're doing this. I'm going to watch your AAR with great interest. Thanks for doing it. Thanks for following my AAR.

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 4:34:08 PM)
Turn 14, 8/6/41 AGN Novgorod 8th Panzer Division moves to Novgorod. Meanwhile 4th Panzer Armee surrounds several scattered enemy units. SS Polizei Division reach Neva River near Shlisselburg. [image]local://upfiles/53085/D197572090C94F2D839B99A245D9C85C.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 4:52:01 PM)
Turn 14, 8/6/41 AGC Bryansk 24th Panzer Korps is on the gates of Bryansk. The city is weakly defended and will fall soon. 10th Motorized Division moved to Zhukovka and will participate battle of Bryansk next turn. Meanwhile near Vyazma 4th Armee and 3rd Panzer Armee managed to surround six enemy divisions including three tank divisions. [image]local://upfiles/53085/B24503B21CAF42E7B5C14ED2731E76F6.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 5:06:23 PM)
Turn 14, 8/6/41 AGS 48th Panzer Korps enlarged the bridgehead and is moving south towards Borispol. Supply is very low on the east bank of Dnepr. The southern bridgehead can’t expand. Railhead is near Berdychiv. [image]local://upfiles/53085/855B76B74AE843468C310EE6CD153A5C.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 5:16:17 PM)
Turn 15, 8/10/41 AGS Kiev is surrounded! 48th Panzer Korps moved south and sealed the Kiev pocket. Now 6th Armee will begin its assault to the city. Infantry divisions are fully supplied. [image]local://upfiles/53085/754F3B81D6EF4956A97C60F681EC6A9A.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 5:29:38 PM)
Turn 15, 8/10/41 AGC Bryansk is surrounded! The supply situation around Bryansk is very difficult (single digits) but once we’ll capture the city the situation will improve. Fresh divisions wait near Kirchev, they’ll move towards Orel once Bryansk is captured. [image]local://upfiles/53085/C5FD3AB98F36447C8FE70E9AC0CA4DEA.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 5:33:09 PM)
Turns 15 and 16, 8/10/41 – 8/17/41 AGN Volkhov 8th Panzer Division advances on the east bank of Volkhov River towards town of Volkhov. By August 13th Shlisselburg is captured and Leningrad is surrounded. Now it’s time to take Novaya Ladoga and Volkhov, then the pocket is sealed. Finnish forces are waiting in Lodeynoye Pole. The outer Leningrad fortification ring is not fully occupied. 18th Armee divisions move to the gaps. [image]local://upfiles/53085/64F92A7F708441CC91FFF7F020743C75.jpg[/image]

Nicholas Bell -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 8:39:42 PM)
Enjoying your reports, Jukipo. You're showing us what it takes to achieve historical/near historical rates of advance. It's good to see the rail repair advancing at what looks to be historical rates, as opposed to Larry's AAR where it seems to be lagging. Zoomed out screens are appreciated. Thanks.

DanNeely -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 11:23:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson quote: ORIGINAL: Jukipo 48th Panzer Korps crossed Desna River unopposed near Chernobyl. At the same time another crossing was successful near Kaniv. Das Reich Division stormed enemy positions after a massive artillery barrage. Now two bridgeheads must meet and seal the Kiev pocket. Great move. I really like how you're doing this. I'm going to watch your AAR with great interest. Thanks for doing it. quote: ORIGINAL: Jukipo 6th Army was resting. Kiev is so heavily defended it would cost too much to attack head on. I once played a game where the Soviet player had vacated Kiev entirely. I just walked in and turned the lights on. Never happened since. Did your opponent explain his reasoning or was it just an act of madness?

larryfulkerson -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/19/2018 11:31:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DanNeely quote: ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson quote: ORIGINAL: Jukipo 48th Panzer Korps crossed Desna River unopposed near Chernobyl. At the same time another crossing was successful near Kaniv. Das Reich Division stormed enemy positions after a massive artillery barrage. Now two bridgeheads must meet and seal the Kiev pocket. Great move. I really like how you're doing this. I'm going to watch your AAR with great interest. Thanks for doing it. quote: ORIGINAL: Jukipo 6th Army was resting. Kiev is so heavily defended it would cost too much to attack head on. I once played a game where the Soviet player had vacated Kiev entirely. I just walked in and turned the lights on. Never happened since. Did your opponent explain his reasoning or was it just an act of madness? If I recall correctly it was General Paton and yes he did explain that and I remember agreeing at the time that it made sense but I can't remember what he said. Maybe it had something to do with micromanagement by Stalin.

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/20/2018 12:47:25 PM)
Situation on 8/13/41 after 15 turns. AGN: Leningrad is surrounded, only life road remains open. Supply situation is improving as railhead is moving closer. AGC: Our troops are at the gates of Vyazma and Bryansk. Supply situation is good in the center near Vyazma. On both flanks the supply situation is worse. AGS: Kiev is surrounded. In south our troops have reached Aleksandriya – Kherson line. Lack of supply is limiting our speed. Losses in the first 15 turns: (last 5 turns in parenthesis) 14195 (+4562) Heavy Rifle Squads 1205 Rifle Squad – Rum 55 Rifle Squad – Hun 1317 Rifle Squad – Fin 24 Rifle Squad - Ita 1910 (+665) Engineer Squads 444 (+149) Panzers (all types) 335 (+171) Fighters (all types) 136 (+66) Stukas 543 (+175) Bombers (all types) Railheads are on the map in cyan. [image]local://upfiles/53085/87AB36BFF8A54802806263B303DFFCA1.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/20/2018 1:09:37 PM)
Turn 16, 8/13/41 AGS Troops are slowly reducing Kiev pocket. Losses are heavy on both sides. [image]local://upfiles/53085/60261934B029423AB83666C697D10CC9.jpg[/image]

larryfulkerson -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/20/2018 1:16:08 PM)
quote: Troops are slowly reducing Kiev pocket. Losses are heavy on both sides. Lots of arty support will help with that.

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/20/2018 1:22:07 PM)
Turn 16, 8/13/41 AGC Vyazma is captured. 9th Armee and 3rd Panzer Armee are moving slowly forward. The enemy resistance is strong. There have been several local counterattacks. Several Enemy units have been evaporating when attacking. Meanwhile situation around Bryansk remains unchanged. [image]local://upfiles/53085/827C4D08BB1542A8840E1F1BA100F933.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/20/2018 1:25:41 PM)
Turn 17, 8/17/41 AGN Pocket 4th Panzer Armee captures Volkhov River line. Leningrad is out of supply! Now it’s time to meet Finnish forces at Lodeynoye Pole and mop up scattered enemy units. 8th Panzer Division moves to Volkhov. Meanwhile 18th Armee surrounds several enemy divisions near Gatchina. There is nothing that can save Leningrad now! [image]local://upfiles/53085/100790F307774D6387449D1F03C1F907.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (1/20/2018 1:31:14 PM)
Turn 18, 8/20/41 AGN Volkhov The supply situation is so bad around Volkhov it’s not possible to continue advance towards Lodeynoye Pole. 18th Armee assaults enemy pocket. The situation of the enemy is hopeless, but they offer stiff resistance. There is no hurry, so units can minimize losses. Finnish forces have reached the old border in the Karelian Isthmus. They are not going to attack Leningrad. [image]local://upfiles/53085/6F12B06D81E149299AF21DBB20653D6F.jpg[/image]

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