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fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/10/2019 11:48:54 AM)

The start of turn 360

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fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/11/2019 2:42:22 AM)

The start of turn 361. Relief operations are coming from the north and south. Steiner may yet come to the rescue

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fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/12/2019 4:54:40 AM)

The start of turn 362 and Willie is attacking on a very narrow front. Lets see what happens

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fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/12/2019 11:32:06 AM)

The German army still has some teeth. I have counter attack and surrounded the 8th Mech Corps 67th Mech Bde. Now can I hold the line while Willie mounts a relief operation next turn?

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fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/12/2019 11:54:31 AM)

The 8th Mech Corp is no more.

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fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/13/2019 1:47:09 AM)

The start of turn 363

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larryfulkerson -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/14/2019 2:27:42 AM)

First of all congratulations to the both of you for playing it out this far. I'm not sure but that may be a first for the new release of TOAW 4 [ the first FITE2 to be played to the end ]. And I'm dying to know what the Soviet supply situation looks like and where in the world Berlin is in this image and how many turns are left to play?
Things like that.

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fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/14/2019 5:49:04 AM)

Hi Larry, you will have to ask Willie for his supply picture. However his rail heads are now 10 kms behind the front attacking from the east and south east. There are no yellow broken rail lines there. If you look at the picture for turn 360 above I placed a black circle on the victory hex.



fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/14/2019 8:00:34 AM)

Hi Larry I forgot to add that Willie has to get to that victory hex before turn 400 to win. The next turn will be 364 so he has 36 turns to advance 20kms. I am thinking that the game will end between turn 370 and 375 as I do still have a couple of very powerful divisions still within the Berlin defensive area. I used 2 of them to destroy the 8th Mech corp.



fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/16/2019 12:00:34 PM)

The start of turn 364. Willie has advanced to being 3 hexes from winning.

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fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/16/2019 12:38:02 PM)

desperate times call for desperate action. I have launched a number of counter attacks and have been able to push Willie back in a number of places. This is the summary of the battles

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fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/18/2019 12:02:14 PM)

The start of turn 365. Willie is still 3 hexes from victory

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loveman2 -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/18/2019 4:30:33 PM)

RUSSIAN NORTH ARMIES


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loveman2 -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/18/2019 4:31:21 PM)

BERLIN


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loveman2 -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/18/2019 4:32:41 PM)

BELOW BERLIN AND FURTHER WEST


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loveman2 -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/18/2019 4:33:34 PM)

MORE SUPPLY


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loveman2 -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/18/2019 4:34:13 PM)

BELGRADE


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loveman2 -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/18/2019 4:35:11 PM)

LOWEST POSITION ON MAP AND SUPPLY HAS RAN OUT



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fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/19/2019 12:40:55 PM)

The start of turn 366

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fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/19/2019 1:34:58 PM)

In the north the front is very fluid I have been launching desperate attacks with the aim of drawing away some of Willie's forces surrounding Berlin. The result that I have been able to surround 4 Regts. The question is will Willie mount a relief or keep his eyes on the prize. From the pictures above I think he can do both.

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fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/21/2019 12:34:43 PM)

The start of turn 367

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fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/21/2019 12:36:48 PM)

And the picture in the north

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fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/23/2019 12:01:51 AM)

Not long now

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fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/23/2019 12:25:03 AM)

A short turn with very fierce counterattacks. I was able to push Willie back 5kms on a 10 km front.

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Cfant -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/23/2019 6:23:31 AM)

well, you made it to '45! And that's really an achievement! Very well done!



fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/23/2019 10:18:23 AM)

In my counter attacks I have bumped up against some of Willie's arty. This picture gives you some idea of the arty that Willie has lined up against my front line and the reason why he has been able to push forward so fast. I think there is more in the hexes that I can not see.

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thomasharvey -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/23/2019 3:56:42 PM)

You have done your job making it into 1945!

Looking back was there something you could have done different to make a significant difference?



fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/24/2019 1:04:52 PM)

Here is the start of turn 369 - 1 Jan 45.

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fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/24/2019 1:57:48 PM)

Again a short turn with a number of counter attacks. Black circles are the hexes I won back

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fogger -> RE: FITE2 Fogger vs Loveman 1 (8/25/2019 4:52:43 AM)

Hi Tom,
This was one of the original test versions. In this game I did not get as far as I had in some previous games and my casualties were a lot heavier. I found the Russians to be far too strong / Germans too weak.

One of the suggestions that I had made to Soren was for the German player to be given some free attack bonuses. I found that if I was able to take the objectives set out in the rules I was not in a position to take advantage of the attack bonuses that followed. In the current version the German gets 3 offensive chits in 1941.

I have not tested these "chits" yet but if they are as I suggested then I would not attack on 3 fronts but switch back and forth between the 3 objectives. This would allow me to bring maximum force to bear while keeping the Russian player guessing to a point.

I have just received Willies turn back and from his email I think I have just lost.

Ah well there is always the next game. One day I will win.

I will load his turn and post some pictures shortly

cheers
john



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