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warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/17/2018 5:12:17 AM)
Turn 167 + Turn 168 23rd + 24th December 1943 Well I didn't take my own advice and tried to continue. That was a mistake. Hundreds more troops lost (and entire brigades evaporated) and now I can't withdraw without more enormous losses because most of my forces are reorganising. I tried to change tack and take out the German artillery but my artillery was slaughtered in counter-battery fire. On the right flank the 2nd New Zealand Division have gone into reorganisation too. So I pull back en masse (with what I can) and simply wait for the casualty count to increase. I don't know if these British units reconstitute (the destroyed 56th Division didn't) but if not then that is the British effectively out of the game.....

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/18/2018 5:10:31 PM)
169 + 170 25th and 26th December 1943 The remains of the British Army continue to retreat - although unlike the Germans which rarely get engaged, the British units are engaged every turn thus simply increasing the losses. For some reason, weather perhaps? the Allied engineers have simply downed tools. The number of rail hexes I'm able to repair is slightly less than bugger all per turn. This means supply remains hopeless and I'm resorting to moving as few units as possible (aside from the fleeing CW troops) to maximise what supply there is.

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/18/2018 9:25:43 PM)
Turn 171 + 172 27th + 28th December 1943 More of the same predictable stuff sadly - another couple of brigades simply disappear having got engaged.... Engineers simply won't fix any rails at the moment ergo I have no supply and therefore I can do absolutely nothing. Bizarre. 1 out of 12 that turn..... Turn 128 sees more losses from bombardment. Engineers continue to struggle to understand how to fix rail lines. It will take a while to sort the surviving CW units into position after the last debacle and I continue to keep the US forces as immobile as possible for supply reasons. All 'Dark Green' fighters are on air superiority Sadly no British reinforcements - looks like those units won't be reconstituting....

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/22/2018 6:11:22 AM)
Turn 173-179 29th December 1943 - 4th January 1944 I've not reported on these turns individually as there has been nothing much to report. Basically the British and Commonwealth forces are locked in an artillery duel (and there are no prizes for guessing who is coming off worse there) while the US forces are waiting for the engineers to do their job and provide some supply. However, I now realise I've been reading the map wrong and the rail line at Cassino doesn't connect to the line to the south. So I'm at a bit of a loss as to how the US forces are supplied fully. It looks like I can get some supply to them - but supply quickly dissipates from Cassino even with the rail intact. I've made a total pig's ear of this.

larryfulkerson -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/22/2018 10:39:47 AM)
quote: I've made a total pig's ear of this. You guys can always restart.

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/23/2018 5:12:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson quote: I've made a total pig's ear of this. You guys can always restart. warspite1 Well yes but that's not really fair on devoncop. In playing the Axis (and assuming he was playing a competent player and not the total buffoon he's up against) then he would be in for a game of retreat, loss, retreat loss. That he's doing really well and actually now attacking the Allies is reward for great tactics and sticking in there. It seems a little unfair for me to pull the plug just as he's getting his reward. No, I've cocked it up and so now I will try and rectify the situation. And if I can't then I'll just continue embarrassing myself with this resounding display of ineptitude. Now, where are those damn engineers?? [:D]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/23/2018 5:31:33 AM)
Turn 180 + 181 5th and 6th January 1944 Supply or no I decided I need to take the game to the Germans. The British were locked in an artillery duel with the Axis and we know how that ends. I therefore moved forward with XIII Corps and begun the process of moving X (Domminion) Corps up on their right. Meanwhile the US II Corps started their advance on Tivoli and the VI Corps began a tentative move north from Sulmona. The Free French Mountain Corps are starting their advance up the east coast (where communications appear somewhat basic). In order to avoid as much as possible being splattered by the battlefield nuclear weapons the Germans are able to employ, I thinned out the British line - but this has simply invited attack by the enemy - and I now need to sort out that mess. At the same time the German forces opposite II Corps have also decided to go on the offensive and have attacked the 92nd Division. As Chic would say: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKl6EZShaaw [image]local://upfiles/28156/0232F20761A94D7DB8EC630B9B491AC0.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/23/2018 4:44:32 PM)
Turn 181 6th January 1944 US II Corps After two rounds of bombardment, elements of three units - 92nd Division, 1st Armoured Division and 5th Army reserve - seek to attack a couple of enemy units blocking the road to Tivoli. Artillery and air support are called upon too. [image]local://upfiles/28156/6485F3D5D52945F3AF94DFDCE1A19908.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/23/2018 5:04:11 PM)
Turn 181 6th January 1944 British XIII Corps Again, following a couple of bombardments, an attack by elements of the Polish division and three British units aim to wrest control of Litroria from the 508th Heavy Panzer Battalion - while the artillery to the northwest are also targeted. Again artillery and aircraft are employed for the main attack. [image]local://upfiles/28156/7ECF1A8CE2A348E785D9EF5505FC3A9F.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/23/2018 5:13:43 PM)
Turn 181 6th January 1944 As to be expected, the Allies suffer huge losses in driving the Germans back from both hexes. I finish the turn with another round of bombardment so let's see what the damage was for that turn: Looks like the Germans have the Me-262 already...... The allies took large infantry losses but at least they took out some German artillery. [image]local://upfiles/28156/6E9A3F0CB1C44345B156AD055A16A562.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/23/2018 7:14:15 PM)
Turn 182 7th January 1944 Mmmmmm.... 9 bombardments from the Germans. No overstacking of Allied unit but their barrages are still more devastating than the Allies - even though the Germans being targeted were overstacked - and the entire AGRA were employed..... right..... [image]local://upfiles/28156/F0C3BBD2327A42B8B27FFA92433A1E1A.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/23/2018 8:53:04 PM)
Turn 182 7th January 1944 The turn ended on me before I had a chance to take a picture of the US II Corps position. Essentially this turn I continued with the bombardments while pushing forward with all units in order to try and 'smother' the enemy. North of the Tivoli road II Corps pushed back a paratroop unit in the mountains. Meanwhile British armour has sliced a gap in the German defences but unfortunately advanced alone - and there are at least 3 heavy panzer battalions in their path...... [image]local://upfiles/28156/366527EC8EC64B879AF8F0D5D801DB1F.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/23/2018 8:57:45 PM)
Turn 182 7th January 1944 Its important to keep a note of the numbers to ensure I know the point when an attack or advance is not working. So I continue to monitor closely this current phase of the battle. This was much better. The Germans seem to be pushing onto my forces rather than hunkering down and this seemingly has enabled a better artillery performance this turn.... A lot of those enemy tanks destroyed were Tigers from the heavy panzer battalions.... [image]local://upfiles/28156/C31FFCB13ACD43FFA12258DCBFA383D2.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/24/2018 4:25:55 PM)
Turn 183 8th January 1944 A good turn for the Germans - especially in tanks and field guns take out. [image]local://upfiles/28156/50D42A275D9C4873B7339697D4D75143.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/24/2018 4:57:43 PM)
Turn 183 8th January 1944 Unbelievable.... 2 rounds and a failed proficiency check [:(] What a shame, that was building up quite nicely..... [image]local://upfiles/28156/8DBCB51D709E4854884A7B59BF758816.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/24/2018 8:59:08 PM)
Turn 184 9th January 1944 Axis are fighting hard - and have plenty of units to form a solid defensive line. Last turn they made 21 bombardments and continue to take a heavy toll on my artillery pieces especially. I have brought US VI Corps west of Aquila only to find a solid wall of Germans. But there is no other choice but to continue and hope..... In the extreme north of the line I try and move 36th Division out to try and outflank the Germans blocking the road west. Enemy units are immediately detected and a tank battalion from the reserve is despatched to help the infantry. [image]local://upfiles/28156/530FA709A77C4294AE12E15A9F0B1E86.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/24/2018 9:22:51 PM)
Turn 184 9th January 1944 Further south two divisions from the X (Dominion) Corps push the enemy back - its not much but its a start.... [image]local://upfiles/28156/E5823C16ADF446F296C20A9E69F6FFD9.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/24/2018 9:48:30 PM)
Turn 184 9th January 1944 I try one more attack with the 1st Canadian Division (directly north of the Kiwis) but a battalion of panzers steps in and saves the day for the Axis. The remainder of the turn is limited to bombardments - and at least I get a full turn this time. Problem is I can't reach his artillery so until I can make a breakthrough he is going to cause me more punishment than I can dish out.....

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/25/2018 6:14:26 AM)
Turn 185 10th January 1944 Only 7 bombardments this time and this highest % was 9% so that is perhaps a little more encouraging. The target for the bombardments are spread along the line too. I can see reinforcement units heading toward the southern end of the line in particular.

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/25/2018 6:43:21 AM)
Turn 185 10th January 1944 In the north, US 36th Division - beefed up with tanks from the army reserve - take Rieti. Subject to what lies north, I aim to push the infantry west to try and envelope the enemy armour blocking the road. [image]local://upfiles/28156/6FDDDC798C0D4763ADD4C988C5BE960A.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/25/2018 6:52:15 AM)
Turn 185 10th January 1944 Whilst bombardments on the flanks continue, the 1st Canadian Division (with a little help from the Kiwi cavalry and Indian artillery) force a German battalion back - this time the panzers are also forced to retreat. [image]local://upfiles/28156/F50573CB230C43098FBD99F7BEA2E370.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/25/2018 7:01:51 AM)
Turn 185 10th January 1944 With one round left I remember to take a 'big picture' look at the map. You can see a French division in the centre. This was headed to reinforce the French Mountain Corps, but I may send it northwest to reinforce US VI Corps in case a breakthrough is possible there. [image]local://upfiles/28156/9291B1A01E214B0984110F3A8606EABE.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/25/2018 10:15:55 PM)
Turn 186 11th January 1944 8 bombardments that turn from the Axis - again the damage was relatively light. I notice German forces moving down the Adriatic coast for the first time....

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/25/2018 10:48:48 PM)
Turn 186 11th January 1944 I continue to employ more of the same tactics. Building on the work of the 1st Canadian Division, the Kiwis push back an engineer unit in the mountains east of Cisterna, The aim is to continue to apply pressure here. To the north US VI Corps also continue to make progress and the two German units blocking their path north have been disposed of. I will need to keep a regiment or two to guard the road north to Terni, but all other available forces must try and infiltrate behind the German positions on the main road into Rome's eastern approaches. [image]local://upfiles/28156/627B7277ACCB4DD9B9FEF2A4CF5E994D.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/26/2018 11:50:42 AM)
Turn 187 12th January 1944 8 bombardments from the Germans this turn. I'll look at the damage here as my artillery seems to be suffering and I may need to consider withdrawal. I will have to look at what damage I am doing in return. The losses to the artillery appear to be from one - perhaps two - artillery units and so that unit(s) must be suffering by now.... [image]local://upfiles/28156/FC20110F549B4F0EAB072E1675731DC9.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/26/2018 12:50:54 PM)
Turn 187 12th January 1944 On the X Corps front the Kiwis, with Canadian assistance, force the Germans back - albeit at ridiculously high losses against a lone security battalion in the mountains that had been pummelled for turn after turn by artillery. Valmontone is the target for the X Corps.... [image]local://upfiles/28156/BC69BBACFD1542FD9C04CBF238783C74.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/26/2018 1:01:56 PM)
Turn 187 12th January 1944 Meanwhile US VI Corps efforts to outflank the enemy south of Rieti are hampered by the discovery of more enemy units. However, a panzergrenadier battalion is pushed back north of the road so there is a least progress of sorts. [image]local://upfiles/28156/2F3031694AEB445A8AFD8137773D89A4.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/26/2018 7:41:50 PM)
Turn 188 13th January 1944 There were two bombardments only this turn. More importantly a Moroccan battalion is cut-off. There are plenty of reinforcements on their way... [image]local://upfiles/28156/48504FD97A8845BB825B4377CCE91773.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/26/2018 8:04:37 PM)
Turn 188 13th January 1944 The plan remains the same - British XIII and US II Corps continue to pound the enemy while the British X and US VI Corps seek to exert more direct pressure on the line. It looks like devoncop has had to thin the line to send troops north to plug the envelopment attempt and so elements of 34th, 45th and the 5th Army Reserve attack German infantry holding the main road. To the south, II Corps units are called upon to attack a vulnerable hex. Both succeed in forcing the enemy back. [image]local://upfiles/28156/840E7C45D903478DA83A6FDC8F5BFAA4.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (5/26/2018 8:27:04 PM)
Turn 188 13th January 1944 The Canadians and Kiwis continue to combine well - New Zealand armour advances after a successful assault and in a follow-up attack only last ditch defending by a flack unit keeps the Dominion forces at bay.... [image]local://upfiles/28156/804129F58A61460FA9548156AFBF9882.jpg[/image]

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