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Nicholas Bell -> Command & Support in Units (Not Formation HQ) (2/2/2018 5:05:21 PM)

The manual explains well the function of command groups and support squads in Formation Headquarters. Are they merely "fluff" with no coded function if they are contained in units, eg in a division?

Thanks.



Telumar -> RE: Command & Support in Units (Not Formation HQ) (2/8/2018 8:13:54 PM)

Supply Squads will have no effect in normal - that is non-HQ units. Afaik this also applies to command groups.

Note that you can set a secondary unit icon in the editor. I. e. you could take a normal infantry unit and set HQ as a secondary unit icon. This should have the effect that the unit now also has HQ unit abilities with supply squads and command groups working as in a normal HQ unit.




Nicholas Bell -> RE: Command & Support in Units (Not Formation HQ) (2/8/2018 8:25:32 PM)

Thank you very much, Telumar. Great information.



larryfulkerson -> RE: Command & Support in Units (Not Formation HQ) (2/8/2018 11:27:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Telumar
Note that you can set a secondary unit icon in the editor. I. e. you could take a normal infantry unit and set HQ as a secondary unit icon. This should have the effect that the unit now also has HQ unit abilities with supply squads and command groups working as in a normal HQ unit.

I'm hurting my head trying to imagine why you would want to do that.



DanNeely -> RE: Command & Support in Units (Not Formation HQ) (2/9/2018 12:10:02 AM)

Your generals were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.

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Ratbag55 -> RE: Command & Support in Units (Not Formation HQ) (2/10/2018 4:20:48 AM)

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I'm hurting my head trying to imagine why you would want to do that.


Give a mechanised unit a secondary unit icon "Ski unit". You now have a modern overland/arctic Mechanised unit.

Ratbag



Oberst_Klink -> RE: Command & Support in Units (Not Formation HQ) (2/10/2018 9:51:30 AM)

A good example about the usefulness of a secondary icon can be found in Tutorial '45. I assigned my VG Btls the mortar icon as secondary icon and that enables them to counter-battery with their 81mm and 120mm mortars, as they would in real combat.

Klink, Oberst



larryfulkerson -> RE: Command & Support in Units (Not Formation HQ) (2/10/2018 10:47:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink
A good example about the usefulness of a secondary icon can be found in Tutorial '45.
I assigned my VG Btls the mortar icon as secondary icon and that enables them to
counter-battery with their 81mm and 120mm mortars, as they would in real combat.

Klink, Oberst

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ratbag55
Give a mechanised unit a secondary unit icon "Ski unit". You now have a modern
overland/arctic Mechanised unit.

Ratbag

Thanks guys but I was talking specifically about using an HQ as the secondary icon. Why would
anybody want to do THAT?



Oberst_Klink -> RE: Command & Support in Units (Not Formation HQ) (2/10/2018 12:40:56 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink
A good example about the usefulness of a secondary icon can be found in Tutorial '45.
I assigned my VG Btls the mortar icon as secondary icon and that enables them to
counter-battery with their 81mm and 120mm mortars, as they would in real combat.

Klink, Oberst

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ratbag55
Give a mechanised unit a secondary unit icon "Ski unit". You now have a modern
overland/arctic Mechanised unit.

Ratbag

Thanks guys but I was talking specifically about using an HQ as the secondary icon. Why would
anybody want to do THAT?

To represent e.g. the HQ of an armoured unit, e.g. like the HQ of a Pz.Btl with let's say 5 tanks that should not lose the attribute of being an armoured unit.

Klink, Oberst



larryfulkerson -> RE: Command & Support in Units (Not Formation HQ) (2/10/2018 2:35:27 PM)

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To represent e.g. the HQ of an armoured unit, e.g. like the HQ of a Pz.Btl with let's say 5 tanks that should not lose the attribute of being an armoured unit.

No, I mean why would you add support squads and command groups to a combat unit.



Oberst_Klink -> RE: Command & Support in Units (Not Formation HQ) (2/10/2018 3:06:21 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

quote:

To represent e.g. the HQ of an armoured unit, e.g. like the HQ of a Pz.Btl with let's say 5 tanks that should not lose the attribute of being an armoured unit.

No, I mean why would you add support squads and command groups to a combat unit.

Ach so... well, without any HQ use... cosmetics... after all, some of the staff can be represented without too much combat value.

Klink, Oberst



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