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Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/8/2018 10:50:41 AM)
5th-7th Jan 42 Nothing of note on the 5th and 6th, the 7th sees my troops cross the river into Singapore: Ground combat at Singapore (50,84) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 110957 troops, 1186 guns, 663 vehicles, Assault Value = 3725 Defending force 40988 troops, 514 guns, 332 vehicles, Assault Value = 1042 Japanese adjusted assault: 3187 Allied adjusted defense: 2429 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 3942 casualties reported Squads: 19 destroyed, 543 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 89 disabled Engineers: 98 destroyed, 162 disabled Guns lost 61 (4 destroyed, 57 disabled) Vehicles lost 18 (5 destroyed, 13 disabled) Allied ground losses: 4819 casualties reported Squads: 131 destroyed, 235 disabled Non Combat: 100 destroyed, 266 disabled Engineers: 28 destroyed, 69 disabled Guns lost 84 (37 destroyed, 47 disabled) Vehicles lost 49 (9 destroyed, 40 disabled) Units destroyed 1 A solid first attack, I will rest for couple of days before attacking again. I have about 150 Sally and Lilly bombing the airfield to prevent the rebuilding of forts. Hopefully only 3 or 4 more attacks should be enough to capture it.

Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/8/2018 12:32:43 PM)
8th Jan 42 He puts 50 Buffalo's on CAP over Singers and they do well, downing 20 of my 2E bombers and 10 Oscar escorts for the loss of about 20 of their own number. I won't let up though as I don't want to give him a chance to raise the forts back up to 3 which can be done in two days if the airfield is undamaged. I'm sweeping with a few of my Zero sqds next turn to eliminate any further air resistance. I've decided to let my ground units rest until they are just about fully disruption free and then try another shock attack, with only 2 forts and about 700AV to my 3000AV it should fall....

witpqs -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/8/2018 12:49:09 PM)
A great first attack. Why bother with a shock attack with the attendant casualties when a couple of deliberate attacks will probably do it?

zuluhour -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/8/2018 1:08:50 PM)
+1 agreed. The destroyed bin tells a great deal.

Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/8/2018 4:43:13 PM)
9th-12th Jan 42 He continues to contest the air over Singers with part of the AVG and surely the last of his Buffalo's, losing about 30 to my 20. I will attack in another day or two when all my divs have single figure disruption. I'm almost certain one shock attack will do it if the forts are still at 2, probably looking at at least another week using deliberate attacks, decisions decisions..... Elsewhere, in China I take Nanning and Liuchow in the south west, Kukong is under seige and Kanshein should fall in the next few days. The main focus will then fall on Changsha, but that will be a slow burner. In the north I'm closing in on Yenan which he has all but abandoned, and have a strong force headed for Sian from the north east. He has a lot of units in the woods to the SE of Sian and NE of Nanyang which I am simply going to by pass. Over at Moulmein the 33rd div arrives after a long trek up from Bangkok with several other smaller units. He has the Burma div there but it should fall in the next few days. He seems to be reinforcing Rangoon and my Netty's based at Bangkok are having a party sinking about 20 AKs over a three day period, the single Buffalo squad there was eliminated by a Zero sweep.

witpqs -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/8/2018 5:35:31 PM)
A deliberate attack will not take as much time to recover from. Another option is the 'rolling attack' where you deliberate attack on day with some units, deliberate attack the very next day with other units. The defender does not get rest and you have enough superiority to reduce forts each time. The second or third attack could be an all-in shock attack after bringing down the forts and spiking the defenders' disruption.

Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/8/2018 6:22:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: witpqs A deliberate attack will not take as much time to recover from. Another option is the 'rolling attack' where you deliberate attack on day with some units, deliberate attack the very next day with other units. The defender does not get rest and you have enough superiority to reduce forts each time. The second or third attack could be an all-in shock attack after bringing down the forts and spiking the defenders' disruption. You may be right but its too late now, I've ordered a shock attack, just awaiting the turn back...

adarbrauner -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/8/2018 6:35:16 PM)
Where does he fly his fighters from, Balikpapan?

Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/8/2018 6:44:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: adarbrauner Where does he fly his fighters from, Balikpapan? Well he holds all of Java and my bombing of the airfield has not been enough to close it so I assume he just fly's them in and out at will, but they have been absent the last few turns as he knows the end is coming.

Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/8/2018 6:50:47 PM)
13th Jan 42 I order all my units at Singers to shock attack the next turn. To help I've ordered a 6 BB (with 6 DMS to sweep the mines) bombardment the night before. All bombers set to ground attack. Fingers crossed. I've also noticed that Surabaya port is host to about 15 DDs and subs with no fighters based there again, so the KB will pay it another high speed visit....

Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/8/2018 7:51:53 PM)
14th Jan 42 Ground combat at Singapore (50,84) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 109328 troops, 1182 guns, 651 vehicles, Assault Value = 3688 Defending force 36721 troops, 489 guns, 343 vehicles, Assault Value = 736 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0 Japanese adjusted assault: 4035 Allied adjusted defense: 469 Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Singapore !!! Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses PBY-4 Catalina: 5 destroyed Catalina I: 2 destroyed Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 3538 casualties reported Squads: 7 destroyed, 275 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 69 disabled Engineers: 57 destroyed, 56 disabled Guns lost 39 (2 destroyed, 37 disabled) Vehicles lost 47 (7 destroyed, 40 disabled) Allied ground losses: 43711 casualties reported Squads: 931 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 4131 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 228 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 348 (348 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 428 (428 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units destroyed 33 It falls and the bonus is my divs are still in good order. I immediately move all my transports to the base in order to pick them up for their next adventures. Of the 8 divs there, one will stay put, 3 or 4 will head to Java, 2 to Burma and I may use a spare for wherever I see fit. My port strike on Surabaya finds only 3 US subs and they are all sunk in short order, including S39 which had hit the Akagi so she is avenged.

witpqs -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/8/2018 8:34:35 PM)
Spot on, mate!

obvert -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/8/2018 8:35:20 PM)
Yikes!! Quick and decisive. Well done.

adarbrauner -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/8/2018 8:47:39 PM)
Just would you mind pointing out what divisions have you brought to singapur?

Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/8/2018 9:08:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: adarbrauner Just would you mind pointing out what divisions have you brought to singapur? IG, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 18th, 21st, 38th, 56th

Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/8/2018 9:12:24 PM)
15th Jan 42 All my heavy units and the KB are now en route to Singers from Singkawang and should all dock next turn. I will let my divs rest only long enough to get rid of any disruption and fatigue before they are sent on their next assignments, no rest for the wicked[;)]

Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/9/2018 10:28:31 AM)
16th Jan 42 He tries to bomb my troops at Moulmein but Zeros covering from Bangkok shoot down 20 Blenheims and Hudsons. I try a deliberate attack but just fail to get the 2:1 I need to kick him out, will try again next turn. Up in northern China Yenan falls, he seems to be caught in two minds about what to do overall in China as his troops seem to be running around everywhere. Once I have enough PPs saved I will be bringing in a few divs from Manchuria to keep up the pressure. Meanwhile over in Singapore I am about to start the process of loading troops for my second phase of operations. Akagi is in dry dock there but will take 4 months to repair, fortunately I have enough space on the rest of my CVs to keep her air groups employed. I've also been able to upgrade all of the old Claudes up to Zeros on the mini KB, 30 on Ryujo, 24 on Zuiho and 12 on Hosho. As all of the Zero sqds on the big CVs are hardcoded to a limit of 18 until June this was an important step. Tankers are en route to Palembang and Singers now to start picking up the fuel for the HI. My biggest ones are busy lifting fuel from Port Arthur as it starts with over half a million fuel gathered there. All the small 1250 cap Tks are headed for Miri and Brunei.

adarbrauner -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/9/2018 11:02:52 AM)
Think I am positive that in a major drydock up in Japan (or even at Hong Kong in this respect, if the drydocks had not got damaged there)it'll take you much less time; for 30 Float damage I guess just less than 3 months in a place like Yokohama, or Sasebo/hiroshima

Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/9/2018 11:47:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: adarbrauner Think I am positive that in a major drydock up in Japan (or even at Hong Kong in this respect, if the drydocks had not got damaged there)it'll take you much less time; for 30 Float damage I guess just less than 3 months in a place like Yokohama, or Sasebo/hiroshima True, but I'd rather just have her sit there rather than risk sub attack en route back to the home islands.

Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/9/2018 1:08:01 PM)
17th-18th Jan 42 Moulmein falls, I will waste no time chasing them up the road: Ground combat at Moulmein (55,55) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 18492 troops, 195 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 637 Defending force 9074 troops, 64 guns, 45 vehicles, Assault Value = 261 Japanese adjusted assault: 860 Allied adjusted defense: 111 Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Moulmein !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), preparation(-), morale(-) experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 641 casualties reported Squads: 10 destroyed, 39 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Allied ground losses: 1308 casualties reported Squads: 109 destroyed, 24 disabled Non Combat: 83 destroyed, 18 disabled Engineers: 23 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 23 (21 destroyed, 2 disabled) Vehicles lost 39 (39 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 3 Meanwhile, my Netty's sink another 10 small transports near Rangoon, despite him moving most of the AVG to the base. Over in China he is in full retreat in the north, he is pulling back most of the units in the good terrain to the south and east of Sian back towards the base, not sure why as its a clear hex and they would not stand a chance there. I'm giving my divs at Singers two more days to recover then they will begin loading for their destinations.

obvert -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/9/2018 7:07:40 PM)
Be careful at Sian. There are a lot of engineers and some good big Corps here. Yes, you can bomb it to oblivion, but in my game against Greyjoy he lost an entire army there. Shocked in, got a 1:3, the Chinese shocked the next turn and he was forced back. Lost a lot of troops and never really threatened in China after that.

Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/9/2018 10:59:14 PM)
19th-24th Jan 42 The first real dents in the Empires march to glory during this period. Firstly in China my northern advances have started to meet stiff resistance and he is skillfully setting up blocking moves rather than running away as expected. I may have to check my ambition here for a while. I try a deliberate attack at Changsha that reduces the forts to 3 but trashes a division of mine that will have to retreat and recover. He's also clinging on at Kukong but hopefully that will fall in the next few days. The main event though is my invasion of Java. I allocated the 3 Divs of the 25th army (5th, 18th and 56th) plus eng and art units to land at Kalidjati, which I had taken by para assault the previous day. Meanwhile the 21st Div plus a tank rgt was tasked with landing at Semarang. I also took the dot hex at Soerakata with another para unit to cut off any strat movement between north and south of the island. All this was covered by all my available CVs and most of my surface fleet. However whilst my troops got ashore at Kalidjati in good order, the TF dropping troops at Semarang encounters two dutch PT boat TFs, who manage to evade the DD TF covering it. Caught unloading they are easy tragets and I lose 4 APs to the PT torps, the only saving grace is they manage to land the bulk of the troops beforehand. As expected he has moved most of his ground and air units to Badoeng where they are imunne to bombardment. I think I may have to just try and contain them there whilst I take the South of the peninsula for the time being. I'm sending another Div that was planned to go to Burma as back up, will have to see how the next few turns pan out.

Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/9/2018 11:06:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert Be careful at Sian. There are a lot of engineers and some good big Corps here. Yes, you can bomb it to oblivion, but in my game against Greyjoy he lost an entire army there. Shocked in, got a 1:3, the Chinese shocked the next turn and he was forced back. Lost a lot of troops and never really threatened in China after that. I hear you. I've been looking at some of his AAR's to see if I can get a better understanding of how he operates.

Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/10/2018 10:26:21 AM)
25th-26th Jan 42 My invasion of Java continues without any sign of his airforce or ships other than PTs and subs. A shock attack at Semarang by the 21st Div retreats the small blocking force to Djakarta followed by a tank unit in reserve which then proceeds to kick them out of there the next day, effectively cutting the peninsular in half. He has abandoned Batavia and a tank unit landed at Merak is moving south to take it, I will then land another div at Batavia. This will mean I have a total of 4 Divs plus a couple of tank units plus eng and art which should be enough although it looks like Bandoeng will be a mini Clark Field (recon shows 30 units there)! Elsewhere in Burma I'm about to cross the river into Pegu, it looks like he has abandoned Rangoon (I'm a bit surprised by this). Over in China I have halted my advance in the north for the time being (thanks for the info Obvert), I think he has too much for me to wade through up there at the moment. I have upped Oscar production to 150 a month, I have too many Nate units with decent pilots that I cannot use to due the uselessness of it and I want them into Oscars asap. CVL Shoho has arrived and should be in theatre in about a week. CVs Junyo and Hiyo should arrive by the end of March.

GetAssista -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/10/2018 10:39:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert Be careful at Sian. There are a lot of engineers and some good big Corps here. Yes, you can bomb it to oblivion, but in my game against Greyjoy he lost an entire army there. Shocked in, got a 1:3, the Chinese shocked the next turn and he was forced back. Lost a lot of troops and never really threatened in China after that. Good tactics against the unpredictability of river shock attacks into strong enemy is to delay some LCUs so that they enter the hex the next turn through the same hexside and in combat mode. They will not be a decisive help in the initial attack on the stronghold, but they will have zero disruption next turn. And it is disruption fron initial shock that gets attackers' ass kicked when retaliation happens.

Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/10/2018 11:53:19 AM)
27th Jan 42 Between sweeps of Bandoeng and a massed airfield strike by the KB the Dutch fighter force is virtually destroyed, at least 50 of the 70 or so they can field at any one time, although they do take about 15 Zeros with them. I will have two Divs moving into there next turn so will find out what I'm up against. The last of my troops are being landed at Kalidjati and I will get all the transports clear of the forest of subs surrounding them. He is using them to mine but my DMS have done a good job clearing them, whilst 4 or 5 of his subs have hit mines laid by myself in return and sub sinking sounds were heard...

Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/10/2018 1:28:57 PM)
28th Jan 42 Batavia auto switches sides in the night and the div lands there without any trouble. KB a/c pound Bandoeng airfield again which is showing at 80% damage, I will keep this up with several Lilly units diverted from Malaya. Meanwhile over in the PI I lay a little cap trap for his low flying fighter bombers on naval attack but net a much more worthwhile target: Afternoon Air attack on TF, near San Fernando at 80,74 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-27b Nate x 49 Allied aircraft SBD-3 Dauntless x 16 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 8 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese Ships SC Ch 9 So my crappy Nates manage to shoot down almost a whole sqd of SBDs, nice. It also confirms he will probably have more based elsewhere on land ready to pounce on anything I leave undefended. Going off the number of AKL sightings around Clark he probably has enough supply there already to last till doomsday, which is worrying because this attack came from there: Night Air attack on Taihoku , at 87,63 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Allied aircraft B-17D Fortress x 8 No Allied losses Manpower hits 6 Fires 3000 Aircraft Attacking: 8 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb A very worrying development as I have almost no defence against this at night. There are no HR preventing ANY strat bombing on the map, but I've asked him just to clarify this 100% before I retaliate....

witpqs -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/10/2018 1:56:31 PM)
From where do you think he brought in the supply to Luzon?

Lowpe -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/10/2018 2:07:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Miller Night Air attack on Taihoku , at 87,63 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Allied aircraft B-17D Fortress x 8 No Allied losses Manpower hits 6 Fires 3000 Aircraft Attacking: 8 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb A very worrying development as I have almost no defence against this at night. There are no HR preventing ANY strat bombing on the map, but I've asked him just to clarify this 100% before I retaliate.... So, my experience with early Allied night bombing is that your AA won't fire unless there are several sound detectors, searchlights, or radar present.

Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (4/10/2018 2:49:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: witpqs From where do you think he brought in the supply to Luzon? Probably from Balikpapan. He has around 40 AKL to play with in that area at the start of the game so despite the fact my subs and a/c have sunk maybe a dozen he has plenty left. It's very hard to intercept them with DDs as they always seem to manage to avoid contact, and trying to do so near Clark can be nasty if they react into Bataans minefield and CD guns..

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