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Anachro -> RE: Feb 6, 1942 - Allied Carriers introduce themselves (7/31/2018 10:20:55 PM)

@Modrow I don't know the reason for no second attack. Perhaps my commanders weren't aggressive enough. Weather shouldn't have been a factor as it was listed as "heavy clouds." As for my torpedo bombers, they were set to naval attack with torpedoes on, but seemed to use bombs instead. This might be because they were at a distance of 5 from the targets and that is their extreme limit. Remember these are Devastators, not Avengers.




Anachro -> RE: Feb 5, 1942 (8/1/2018 1:20:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: CaptBeefheart

Cheers,
CB (the artist formerly known as Commander Cody)


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I know a Commander Cody, I don't know a Capt. Beefheart. Hello to you, good sir! What forced the name change? Technical difficulties or something else? I notice a lot of people on matrix forums randomly undergo namechanges.




CaptBeefheart -> RE: Feb 5, 1942 (8/1/2018 4:57:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Anachro


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ORIGINAL: CaptBeefheart

Cheers,
CB (the artist formerly known as Commander Cody)


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I know a Commander Cody, I don't know a Capt. Beefheart. Hello to you, good sir! What forced the name change? Technical difficulties or something else? I notice a lot of people on matrix forums randomly undergo namechanges.

I recently went to the members page to download a game and a dialog box came up which more or less forced me to use CaptBeefheart, which I guess was my name on the Slitherine Forum (which I rarely visit). Since I use that name as well for gaming purposes, it's not a problem as far as I'm concerned.

Cheers,
CB




RangerJoe -> RE: Feb 5, 1942 (8/1/2018 4:59:57 AM)

As I understand it, Slitherine ad Matrix databases are being merged.




Panther Bait -> RE: Feb 5, 1942 - Allied Carriers introduce themselves (8/1/2018 2:00:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lecivius

Man, his hair to be all gone by now [:D] How you are able to position everything JUST RIGHT has to be giving the poor man nightmares. Maybe you should let him sink something, for morale...


Great job, Anachro. As frustrated as he has to be on the surface, I bet he's having a great time deep down.

Besides as a master raider himself, he deserves getting a little of his own medicine back every once in a while. [;)]




jwolf -> RE: Feb 5, 1942 - Allied Carriers introduce themselves (8/1/2018 2:32:47 PM)

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Besides as a master raider himself, he deserves getting a little of his own medicine back every once in a while.


Amen brother!!




BBfanboy -> RE: Feb 6, 1942 - Allied Carriers introduce themselves (8/1/2018 4:17:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Anachro

@Modrow I don't know the reason for no second attack. Perhaps my commanders weren't aggressive enough. Weather shouldn't have been a factor as it was listed as "heavy clouds." As for my torpedo bombers, they were set to naval attack with torpedoes on, but seemed to use bombs instead. This might be because they were at a distance of 5 from the targets and that is their extreme limit. Remember these are Devastators, not Avengers.

The aircraft info screen says Devastators will carry torps to range 4, but I have never seen them carry them beyond range 3, and only if the launch weather was perfect. They were just too underpowered.

I will add my Kudos to the shouting from the peanut gallery. Looks like your cruiser TF got a regiment and an AA unit (or, could also be artillery, but I think AA is more important going to a base he has already taken).

Sinking those transports will mean he has to get emergency supply to Vaitupu and get enough shipping to move his troops forward again. Japan's tight schedule to expand before April 01 and the end of the landing bonus is thoroughly screwed. He may have trouble bringing enough to go after Noumea or Suva after this! Well done! [&o]

John seems to be making the same mistake he did against Canoerebel - loudly showing where his carriers are while not being able to locate the Allied carriers.
I think the huge expansion he tries to do with limited ability to follow up with search planes is a weakness for the Japanese side. But he really wants to get Autovictory by taking the most valuable SOPAC bases. Now he can't.




Anachro -> Feb 7, 1942 (8/1/2018 4:18:15 PM)

Feb 7, 1942

Note on date: last turn was actually Feb. 6th, not the 5th

My carriers move northeast and suffer no attacks from John's carriers, which also move northeast and are now northwest of Vaitupu. It's a good thing he didn't move much closer, as my TF admiral elected to do some self-replenishment during the middle of the night. Still, my carriers find a transport and patrol boat out in the open by Baker Island, as well as a torpedo boat sitting in port at Canton Island.

As for John's transports, they seem to have moved on from the Vaitupu area and could be heading for Luganville or Guadalcanal / Tulagi. I have heavy surface raiders moving in from Australia if opportunity presents itself.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Baker Island at 149,137

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 16

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Havana Maru, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
PB Kyo Maru #7, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk

Japanese ground losses:
318 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 22 (3 destroyed, 19 disabled)


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Afternoon Air attack on Canton Island , at 153,143

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
Albacore I x 11
Fulmar II x 17
SBD-3 Dauntless x 46

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
TB Sagi, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage


At Adak Island, he bombards and lands more troops and now has ~200 AV to my 30. I don't think I'll hold next turn and my bombardment fleets are still a few turns away. My reinforcements cannot be landed while his cruiser hover on the hex. If I lose Adak, I'll just keep bombarding it.




BBfanboy -> RE: Feb 7, 1942 (8/1/2018 4:36:46 PM)

Your success nailing that PB/xAK TF and TB are good things, but he now can guess your line of retreat and will move subs in your path if there are any hanging around that area. Perhaps some devious routing to PH is in order?




Anachro -> RE: Feb 7, 1942 (8/1/2018 4:40:25 PM)

Yes, I'm expecting subs to be lined up on my path of retreat. The AO should meet me midway and give enough fuel to allow a more circuitous route to Hawaii. ASW in the air has been trained up and will be reinforced to spot subs before my ships do. Japanese sub commanders are quite good. Even my ASW task forces manage to become the hunted instead of the hunters.




Canoerebel -> RE: Feb 7, 1942 (8/1/2018 4:44:06 PM)

John fought hard and often well in our recent game. I figured there were three big lessons he could take from the game, but wouldn't take all of them. (1) To pay attention in China [which I believe he'll do]. (2) To not leave holes in his defenses [he'll commit mentally to do this, will make progress, but will get busy and laspe into old habits from time to time]. (3) To keep KB hidden more often and to not steam around with high detection and without information about/detection on Death Star [I don't think he learned this lesson at all, because he did it early, middle, and late game].




Canoerebel -> RE: Feb 7, 1942 (8/1/2018 5:01:46 PM)

oops, sorry Anachro!




Anachro -> RE: Feb 7, 1942 (8/1/2018 5:04:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

12/16/44

Somewhere in the Pacific: Censoring for Opsec reasons for Canoerebel's game


Great post! With the addition of Canoerebel and Obvert as generals in my game, things get better and better! [sm=00000436.gif]
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Canoerebel -> RE: Feb 7, 1942 (8/1/2018 5:05:57 PM)

Ack.




Anachro -> RE: Feb 7, 1942 (8/1/2018 5:09:35 PM)

I guess we should just...disregard those posts, eh?! [:D][:D][8D]




Canoerebel -> RE: Feb 7, 1942 (8/1/2018 5:10:52 PM)

Sorry about that! Gumming up the works again. During my game with John III, I actually posted in his AAR early one morning, while my head was still foggy from sleep leading me to click on the wrong AAR. Now THAT was embarrassing.




jwolf -> RE: Feb 7, 1942 (8/1/2018 5:33:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Sorry about that! Gumming up the works again. During my game with John III, I actually posted in his AAR early one morning, while my head was still foggy from sleep leading me to click on the wrong AAR. Now THAT was embarrassing.



Maybe the sweet siren song of Tokyo Rose got you.




RangerJoe -> RE: Feb 7, 1942 (8/1/2018 5:35:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

12/16/44

Somewhere in the Pacific: Censoring for Opsec reasons for Canoerebel's game



Great post! With the addition of Canoerebel and Obvert as generals in my game, things get better and better!


See - there ARE alternate universes out there!




Anachro -> RE: Feb 7, 1942 (8/1/2018 6:38:24 PM)

Noticed the following in the sigint. I guess John is going for Luganville and the surrounding islands. I have a bunch of artillery there which I haven't had the chance yet to extract farther back to other bases. I'll start flying what I can out to Suva. Luckily, I have heavy cruiser/BC fleets moving to the area.

He is also sending a lot to Singers. Does this indicate my earlier sigint showing an India invasion to be true?

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SIG INT REPORT FOR Feb 07, 42

Radio transmissions detected at 198,50.
4/24th JAAF AF Bn is loaded on a Japanese xAK moving to Singapore.
Radio transmissions detected at Nagasaki/Sasebo (102,58).
4th/B Division is located at Singapore(50,84).
Radio transmissions detected at Roi-Namur (132,114).
Radio transmissions detected at Yokohama/Yokosuka (113,61).
Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at 127,141.
3rd Ship Engineer Regiment is located at Paramushiro-jima(137,47).
23rd Air Defense AA Regiment is located at Fukuoka(103,57).
1st Air Flotilla is loaded on a Japanese AP moving to Singapore.
Radio transmissions detected at Probolinggo (56,105).
Royal Thai Army is located at Bangkok(56,62).
62nd Inf Group Brigade is located at Chiba(114,61).
21st Air Defense AA Regiment is located at Rabaul(106,125).
2/1st Maizuru Assault/ Division is loaded on xAK Melbourne Maru moving to Torres Islands.
22nd/C Division is located at Wenchow(89,58).
5th JAAF AF Coy is located at Samah(69,63).
Eiko-wan Fortress is located at Genzan(105,48).
7th Division is located at Paramushiro-jima(137,47).
Radio transmissions detected at Marcus Island (123,85).
10th Border Defense Fortress is located at 113,42.
5th Air Defense AA Regiment is located at Tokyo(114,60).
10/24th JAAF AF Bn is loaded on xAKL Buyo Maru moving to Singapore.
Radio transmissions detected at Nagasaki/Sasebo (102,58).
13th Tank Regiment is loaded on a Gozan Cargo class xAK moving to Singapore.


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RangerJoe -> RE: Feb 7, 1942 (8/1/2018 6:59:32 PM)

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2/1st Maizuru Assault/ Division is loaded on xAK Melbourne Maru moving to Torres Islands.


Don't forget that the destination might be misleading, it could be moving to a waypoint and unload somewhere else entirely.




Bif1961 -> RE: Feb 7, 1942 (8/2/2018 4:02:21 PM)

Good job with your punishing him for leaving all those transport unprotected. Now you have gotten more experience for your carrier crews it might be time to do a little R&R in PH and then head to Alaskan waters and see what he has left unprotected up there as well.




RangerJoe -> RE: Feb 7, 1942 (8/2/2018 4:41:03 PM)

R & R is nice but I & I might be more fun . . .




Anachro -> Feb 8-9, 1942 (8/2/2018 6:03:24 PM)

Feb 8-9, 1942

A bad day mainly due to the expected loss of Adak. If it had held for an additional turn, I could have reinforced the garrison. As it is, it's lost and probably can't be taken for some time. Oh well, reinforcements will head back to reinforce Dutch Harbor. The interesting thing here is that a CVL or a CVE appears near Adak, with some bombers but mostly a fighter element. I have battleships and destroyers nearby...

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Ground combat at Adak Island (162,52)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 3987 troops, 56 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 166

Defending force 3280 troops, 33 guns, 49 vehicles, Assault Value = 13

Japanese adjusted assault: 93

Allied adjusted defense: 11

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Adak Island !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
165 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
4232 casualties reported
Squads: 57 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 255 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 52 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 28 (28 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 52 (52 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 4


Elsewhere, Japanese forces begin the reduction of Sorabaja...

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Ground combat at Soerabaja (56,104)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26184 troops, 254 guns, 113 vehicles, Assault Value = 909

Defending force 18334 troops, 184 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 458

Japanese adjusted assault: 920

Allied adjusted defense: 296

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1092 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 70 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1256 casualties reported
Squads: 24 destroyed, 59 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 20 (4 destroyed, 16 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Assaulting units:
56th Division
90th Division

Defending units:
III/IV Barisan Cdo
6th Cav Sqdn
Tjepoe Cdo
6th KNIL Regiment
Marinier Battalion
VI Landstorm Cdo
4th Cav Sqdn
III Landstorm Cdo
Groep Zud
Lijfwacht Cav Sqdn
5th Cav Sqdn
V Landstorm Cdo
II Marechausse Cdo
II Landstorm Cdo
3rd Cav Sqdn
Roodenburg Cdo
I/II Barisan Cdo /1
VkA-2 Sup Afd
A-II-Ld AA Battalion
Madoeng Defenses
NI-MLD
VLG-II Sup Groep
VLG-IV Sup Groep
Soerabaja KM Base Force
Soerabaja Defenses
HQ III KNIL Division
5th Base Group /1


In the South Pacific, John seems to have invasion forces heading for Tulagi/Guadalcanal and to the Luganville area. I have cruisers closing in, but his carriers are in the vanguard down by Luganville. He is expending a lot of fuel roving around with his carriers and its quite amazing. They started from Kwajalein, went all the way to Palmyra almost, then down towards Pago Pago, then over to Suva, then back up towards Vaitupu, and now back down towards Luganville the last two turns. They must be running low on fuel and I think I will get another opportunity to cause some havoc with my surface forces.

Allied carriers are east of Palmyra, refueled, and undetected. Rather than send them back to Pearl Harbor, I am thinking of sending them back down to Pago Pago where they can be fully refueled and primed for more raiding. Based on the last few days, he probably thinks they are heading back to Pearl and have set up his subs accordingly.

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RangerJoe -> RE: Feb 8-9, 1942 (8/2/2018 7:13:07 PM)

If his carriers have done any high speed moving, then system and engine damage will build up and may affect his operations.

Any chance at night bombing or torpedo attacks with PBYs? It might get lucky or just scare him . . .




ny59giants -> RE: Feb 8-9, 1942 (8/2/2018 7:48:26 PM)

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A bad day mainly due to the expected loss of Adak. If it had held for an additional turn, I could have reinforced the garrison. As it is, it's lost and probably can't be taken for some time. Oh well, reinforcements will head back to reinforce Dutch Harbor. The interesting thing here is that a CVL or a CVE appears near Adak, with some bombers but mostly a fighter element. I have battleships and destroyers nearby...


Don't overlook Umnak. It has a large AF and with the amount of construction units you get, you can build this up nicely.




Anachro -> RE: Feb 8-9, 1942 (8/3/2018 8:05:49 PM)

@rangerjoe It'd be nice to try and perhaps I will when he is retreating or as I get closer with my carriers coming back around to potentially lower his day CAP. For now, I want to keep my nav search as strong as possible to highlight gaps for my surface raiders.

@nygiants Thanks I noticed it thanks to you. Was sending reinforcements to Dutch Harbor but decided to reinforce there instead.

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I was busy yesterday so didn't get the turn back to John until today. I sent him a note saying, "Back to you! The endless fuel reserves of a Japanese carrier task force are a wonder to behold? Are they nuclear-powered?" to which I got a reply in his acknowledgement of receiving it:

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How did you know??

The real answer is that I was damned near out of fuel near Suva and your damned carriers came within five hexes of them but--thank goodness--didn't spot them. That would have been catastrophic...


I think John has a tendency to give information away like this in his emails, so I believe him. So that question is answered for me.




ny59giants -> RE: Feb 8-9, 1942 (8/3/2018 10:51:23 PM)

2 AVD have 12 Aviation Support. Enough for PBY group. Move them and disband in a port. Great for filling in gaps in NavS.




RangerJoe -> RE: Feb 8-9, 1942 (8/3/2018 11:25:42 PM)

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Don't overlook Umnak. It has a large AF and with the amount of construction units you get, you can build this up nicely.


That was where the airfield was build to protect Dutch Harbor. The Japanese did not know it was there until the flew over it on the way to Dutch Harbor. A flock of P-40s had risen to greet them . . .




Anachro -> Feb 10, 1942 (8/4/2018 12:05:18 AM)

Feb 10, 1942

Japanese troops land at Ndeni. KB hovers nearby. There could be an invasion force headed for Tulagi, but my patrol craft lost sight of it.

In the North Pacific, a series of engagements take place between minor Japanese surface units and US destroyers fighting a rearguard action to protect Allied transports fleeing back to Dutch Harbor. In general, they are successful in this endeavor and will try to do so again tomorrow. My battleships (Warspite and Colorado) are close by; a Japanese carrier of about 25 fighters and 5 or so bombers hovers nearby. Let's see what happens tomorrow.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Atka Island at 163,51, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Kitakami, Shell hits 2, on fire
CL Oi, Shell hits 1
DD Umikaze
DD Hatsuharu, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
DD Hatsushima, Shell hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Le Triomphant, Shell hits 2
DD Delphy
DD Woodbury


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Atka Island at 163,51, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Kitakami, on fire
CL Oi
DD Umikaze
DD Hatsuharu, heavy fires
DD Hatsushima, on fire

Allied Ships
xAP David W. Branch


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Atka Island at 163,51, Range 15,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Kitakami
CL Oi
DD Umikaze
DD Hatsuharu
DD Hatsushima

Allied Ships
DM Breese
DM Tracy, Shell hits 1, on fire
DM Gamble
DM Ramsay
DM Montgomery


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Atka Island at 164,52, Range 15,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Kitakami
CL Oi
DD Umikaze
DD Hatsuharu, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Hatsushima

Allied Ships
DM Breese
DM Tracy, on fire
DM Gamble
DM Ramsay
DM Montgomery




Lovejoy -> RE: Feb 8-9, 1942 (8/4/2018 2:04:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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Don't overlook Umnak. It has a large AF and with the amount of construction units you get, you can build this up nicely.


That was where the airfield was build to protect Dutch Harbor. The Japanese did not know it was there until the flew over it on the way to Dutch Harbor. A flock of P-40s had risen to greet them . . .


I heard a story that the pilots at Umnak were occasionally forced to circle the airfield while ground crews chased bears off of the landing strip.




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