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Anachro -> Mar 2-3, 1942 (8/17/2018 12:40:02 PM)

@JeffroK There will be an attack on the Southern coastline of India quickly following this Ceylon invasion. I have sigint for this from the past which I believe to be pretty reliable. I suspect John will land at Vizagapatnam or somewhere close by and quickly move up and over. My main goal is to defend the Bombay line. Currently, I am building defenses and airbases in the interior where he cannot bombard with his ships. I received advice previously not to try bothering to hold the south at the coasts.

Mar 2-3, 1942

Well, it's confirmed that John is landing in Ceylon; and thought the image below doesn't show, the previous turn spotted another invasion force heading for Diego Garcia, which I believe John will take. This doesn't change much from my point of view. I expected John to push for India and had written off at least Ceylon. For now, forces will still be able to get to the mainland unimpeded, which is where I was planning my defense anyway. Most unrestricted infantry forces were removed to the mainland some turns ago.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/uHh44ZL.jpg[/image]

I had written off defending Ceylon given his ability to bombard the coasts and flood the area with ships and carriers from Malaya and my planning entails a defense in depths in Central India. ~550 additional American AV is already on the way + an American division will be shipped out in a few days using ships, which is quicker than using the strat movement from the East Coast to Capetown. With 6 under-strength Indian divisions and various brigade units, 1 British division, 1 Australian division, various US regiments, 1 US army division, and various tank and armored units, I'll have ~3.5k AV to play with. I am also shipping in a bunch of air assets from the US.

Let me know if you want to know more here, as I'm happy to offer. I am still learning how to to land combat / strategy decently. My main goal is to deny him the ability to quickly move up into the interior and if he tries to do so, to sap his strength and eventually see if I can cut off and kill his forces. I am stationing various smaller units at bases to deny him the ability to take areas with paratroops and then make use of the extensive rail network to quickly move troops up to the front lines. Forts for many areas in the interior should be at least at 3 when he arrives, some might even be at 4-5.

I am refraining from building too many airbases near the southern coastline to deny their operation to him, with the hope that I'll will control most of the air bases when he tries to move farther up, if he does. The only airbases beyond level 1 near or in the south are Madras and Hyderabad. Hyderbad is not being built up, but will be defended so shouldn't fall for a bit. By the time it falls, I am hoping to have a number of airbases behind it from which I can establish air superiority or at least parity: Nander, Sholapur, Chanders, Bhopal, etc.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/oGQwWGV.jpg[/image]




Lecivius -> RE: Mar 2-3, 1942 (8/17/2018 12:50:49 PM)

John hates land warfare. This will be very interesting to see how it is played out.




Bif1961 -> RE: Mar 2-3, 1942 (8/18/2018 1:16:30 AM)

Americans have the deepest land combat unit pools, so use them as you hammer and British and Australian as your anvil. Keep the India units in the forts as they are you weakest assets but still can defend given supplies and decent forts.




Anachro -> Mar 4-7, 1942 (8/20/2018 2:53:49 AM)

Mar 4-7, 1942

John lands at Jaffna and consolidated his gains before moving on to the main cities/hexes of Ceylon. I am considering retreating from Trincomalee to Colombo if I can as, despite the forts, somehow the supply situation there has been bad for weeks despite requesting suppl there for quite some time. Troops might hold out better if they are all concentrated at Colombo. Meanwhile, John has also landed at Akyab and his KB is roving up towards Bomboy. Most of my ships have fled farther north to Karachi. Unfortunately, for the turn, I do lose some cargo ships I forgot I had set to move to Capetown a few turns previous.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/0OhkgAZ.jpg[/image]

John's troops that had landed at Jaffna were covered by either CAP or LRCAP and I do a number of sweeps from Madras in the last turn that remove it. I will try bombing his troops to slow them down over the next few turns.

quote:

Morning Air attack on Jaffna , at 31,45

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 6
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 7

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed


Meanwhile, in the Northern Pacific. A small Japanese force carrier raiding force composed of the Junyo, 2 CVE's, and the Yamato is discovered north of Pearl Harbor near the Aleutians. This force was discovered on March 4th, but has continued roving towards my West Coast in an attempt to get some easy shipping targets despite potential for danger on a return trip. Either this is bait for a trap from half of his KB carriers missing since last seen in the South Pacific with plans to hit my carriers if they appear or John is being reckless.

quote:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Dutch Harbor at 178,65, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CV Junyo
CVE Ibuki
CVE Taiyo
BB Yamato
CL Aoba
CL Kako
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Shigure
DD Umikaze
DD Wakaba
CS Poroshiri

Allied Ships
xAKL Kahuku


[image]https://i.imgur.com/pm2IX9M.jpg[/image]

My carriers are south of Pearl Harbor at the moment, but are set to rendezvous with tankers to try and more towards a path along this roving raiding force's retreat from the west coast. Some good news here is that in his attempt to hit my shipping, John's carrier force fell prey to a CAP trap and should probably retreat next turn. He might try to hit something with his surface forces.

quote:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Prince Rupert at 199,43

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
A6M5 Zero x 6
B5N2 Kate x 11

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 43
F4F-3 Wildcat x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed


Below you can see the plane losses for the last turn, with particular attention to the damage caused to his raiding force. I smell a trap, but my nav search hasn't spotted any other carriers in the North Pacific, but there is a lot of ocean my patrol craft do not cover.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/o7iGQ3Z.jpg[/image]




GetAssista -> RE: Mar 4-7, 1942 (8/20/2018 10:36:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Anachro
Meanwhile, in the Northern Pacific. A small Japanese force carrier raiding force composed of the Junyo, 2 CVE's, and the Yamato is discovered north of Pearl Harbor near the Aleutians. This force was discovered on March 4th, but has continued roving towards my West Coast in an attempt to get some easy shipping targets despite potential for danger on a return trip. Either this is bait for a trap from half of his KB carriers missing since last seen in the South Pacific with plans to hit my carriers if they appear or John is being reckless.

This might also be John's Canada adventure force? Not much point in raiding close to your CAPed bases




Anachro -> RE: Mar 4-7, 1942 (8/20/2018 1:18:08 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: GetAssista

This might also be John's Canada adventure force? Not much point in raiding close to your CAPed bases


I've thought about this. If he goes for Canada, then I wouldn't be too worried. If he tries for US shipyards around Seattle, they've been heavily reinforced.




ny59giants -> RE: Mar 2-3, 1942 (8/20/2018 1:24:43 PM)

John just loves, loves to sink merchants. Yes, he would like to feast on some warships, but he wants to sink your merchants.




Anachro -> RE: Mar 2-3, 1942 (8/20/2018 2:26:31 PM)

Yes, he already did a deep raid once undetected towards Panama where he sank a number of tankers/merchants. No reason he won't try again, but I have pickets in place and nav search to hopefully spot future raiders, as happened in this case. I haven't seen transports to suggest a large move towards invading Canada, though my sigint last turn picked up troops heading for Adak, but this could very well be misinformation for troops heading somewhere else.




BBfanboy -> RE: Mar 2-3, 1942 (8/20/2018 2:45:52 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Anachro

Yes, he already did a deep raid once undetected towards Panama where he sank a number of tankers/merchants. No reason he won't try again, but I have pickets in place and nav search to hopefully spot future raiders, as happened in this case. I haven't seen transports to suggest a large move towards invading Canada, though my sigint last turn picked up troops heading for Adak, but this could very well be misinformation for troops heading somewhere else.

Or John sent the carrier force ahead to sweep the seas of any opposition between Adak and the West Coast, and decided to attack a shore base in the bargain.
Raiding ahead of an invasion force seems to be a pattern for him.




Anachro -> RE: Mar 2-3, 1942 (8/20/2018 2:59:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Or John sent the carrier force ahead to sweep the seas of any opposition between Adak and the West Coast, and decided to attack a shore base in the bargain.
Raiding ahead of an invasion force seems to be a pattern for him.


Yup, this is a pattern for him. It was the same in India and the South Pacific. I'm not discounting the possibility, just don't see the evidence yet. My carriers are moving north towards the North Pacific. I just received and am working on the last turn, which shows a bunch of transports at Adak, so maybe the sigint was right and he is reinforcing it. He is also recon'ing more of the eastern Aleutians, so perhaps he will try to get some of the undefended dot bases and isolate my garrison at Umlak and Dutch Harbor.

Will update on recent turn in a bit. It was mostly air battles in India which I cam off the better in. British fighters seem very good at sweeping against A6M2 Zeros and Oscars on CAP.




Anachro -> Mar 8, 1942 (8/20/2018 3:50:23 PM)

Mar 8, 1942

As I said earlier, today largely consists of sweeps and bombing runs in India to take advantage of his weak CAP/LRCAP and I am decently successful, destroying a number of fighters and potentially weakening his CAP enough to make my bombers useful. These sweeps take place both at Ceylon and Akyab, where I will increase my bombing runs over the next few turns. On Ceylon, I am also moving my garrison to Colombo to hold as long as possible, as that is where all my supply is.

quote:

Morning Air attack on Jaffna , at 31,45

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 20000 feet


quote:

Morning Air attack on Akyab , at 54,45

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 20
Ki-44-Ia Tojo x 5

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 4 destroyed
Ki-44-Ia Tojo: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses


[image]https://i.imgur.com/r4y7LJY.jpg[/image]

In the Aleutians, his carriers move back, but the Yamato and a few escorts stick around near Prince Rupert. I even get the message below...doubt it actually happened and my pilot is being optimistic, but fun to see nonetheless.

quote:

PBY-5 Catalina from VP-42 has spotted BB Yamato at 197,48
BB Yamato is reported HIT




jwolf -> RE: Mar 8, 1942 (8/20/2018 4:33:11 PM)

Granted, the Yamato is a big target. The Cat's bomb may have left a dent somewhere.

Those sweep results are awesome!




Anachro -> Mar 9, 1942 (8/21/2018 2:40:11 AM)

Mar 9, 1942

[image]https://i.imgur.com/muLQk44.jpg[/image]

John reinforces with a large number of additional fighter units, mostly Zeros, and is able to material reduce the size of my existing British fighter wings. Roughly even air-losses for the day, so he is taking losses as well, but he can easily replace his fighters. I cannot, at least for now. ~55 Allied planes are lost to ~45 Japanese planes. I lose ~30-40 Hurricanes whereas he loses ~30 Zeros/Oscars.

Luckily, I have American fighter wings on their way.




Bif1961 -> RE: Mar 9, 1942 (8/21/2018 1:22:14 PM)

Where did you get that picture of John? He sure cleans up nicely.




ny59giants -> RE: Mar 9, 1942 (8/21/2018 2:08:54 PM)

Don't forget the Brit fighter training group in the UK. Hopefully, it will not make your pilot losses as painful.

Slightly OT - Next week I'm on stay-cation and plan to do some updates on BTS and BTSL. Anything you see that I might have overlooked, please PM me. One thing I'm doing is allowing some of the tank/armored units in India to take the plentiful Grant/Lee tanks that are just stockpiling in Aussieland. One of the three device lines for tanks will go with the Grant/Lee to hopefully give the Allies a little more punch in 42 and early 43 before they all go to Sherman V.




Anachro -> RE: Mar 9, 1942 (8/21/2018 3:18:06 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ny59giants_MatrixForum
Don't forget the Brit fighter training group in the UK. Hopefully, it will not make your pilot losses as painful.



I'm on my second class of British training pilots from there!. First class of ~140 pilots were all trained up to 70 air, 70 defense.




Lowpe -> RE: Mar 9, 1942 (8/21/2018 4:48:45 PM)

It seems to me you are having a lot of fun in this game![:)]




Anachro -> RE: Mar 9, 1942 (8/23/2018 11:21:09 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe
It seems to me you are having a lot of fun in this game![:)]


I very much am!

quote:

ORIGINAL: ny59giants_MatrixForum
Slightly OT - Next week I'm on stay-cation and plan to do some updates on BTS and BTSL. Anything you see that I might have overlooked, please PM me. One thing I'm doing is allowing some of the tank/armored units in India to take the plentiful Grant/Lee tanks that are just stockpiling in Aussieland. One of the three device lines for tanks will go with the Grant/Lee to hopefully give the Allies a little more punch in 42 and early 43 before they all go to Sherman V.


I sent John a bunch of graphical fixes, temporary sils to use for missing ship graphics I noticed while testing the mod before we started. There is still a number of missing art for ships, particularly smaller ships and auxiliaries. I also noticed some of the new plane models introduced for Japan seem to be missing artwork, at least from what I can tell in my last turn with John.

Will updated on game soon.




Anachro -> Mar 10-14, 1942 (8/24/2018 2:36:18 PM)

Mar 10-14, 1942

John looks to be moving on Dutch Harbor in the Aleutians, which I avoided reinforcing in favor of Umnak Island. I have reinforcements on the way, but the real important thing here is my carriers (3 USN, 1 British) are about 3 days out from being able to attack this invading force or, more importantly, his small carrier force. I believe this is the same carrier force we saw early, which includes 2 CVEs, 1 Junyo-class CV, and the BB Yamato! I would love to sink the Yamato and cause heartbreak to John. In the mouseover below, the Range of 29 hexes is how distant my carriers are from the current location of his carriers.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/ahwsgAD.png[/image]

In the South Pacific, I manage to hit a force that took back Baker Island from me again. It has troops on it this time so it won't be easy to re-take, but perhaps this will slow him down a bit if he tries to also take Canton Island again.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/e5Bk2Iy.png[/image]

The current situation in India below. All important hexes pretty much have 3+ forts. Bombay has 4+ and Madras is close to five. John was close to taking out all of Ceylon in one swoop, but he was one day late and Colombo was reinforced by 2 Australian brigades that arrive there. Colombo should hold out for awhile yet, but I am airlifting as much of the Aussie troops out as I can.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/CZ6LZ6J.png[/image]




zuluhour -> RE: Mar 10-14, 1942 (8/24/2018 2:52:06 PM)

I'm going to have to play John someday, just hope I can still stand on my toes.




modrow -> RE: Mar 10-14, 1942 (8/24/2018 2:59:56 PM)

Sean,

great jobs in SOPAC (looks like you love sinking enemy merchants as well) and stealing the march on John on Ceylon. [sm=happy0065.gif]

For Yamato, I recommend using a PT boat. This happened in an AAR, unfortunately I forgot which one...

Hartwig




Anachro -> RE: Mar 10-14, 1942 (8/24/2018 3:05:51 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: zuluhour

I'm going to have to play John someday, just hope I can still stand on my toes.


From the little I've seen so far, he is quite the "inveterate raider," as Canoerebel would say. He's been avoiding it for the most part recently while he focuses on India, but I'm sure he'll do more of it once he feels more secure in his landings there.


quote:

ORIGINAL: modrow

Sean,

great jobs in SOPAC (looks like you love sinking enemy merchants as well) and stealing the march on John on Ceylon. [sm=happy0065.gif]

For Yamato, I recommend using a PT boat. This happened in an AAR, unfortunately I forgot which one...

Hartwig


Thanks. I love sinking anything of Japan's. The majority of his carriers seem to either be in India or in the Aleutians, so all I have to worry about in the SoPac is LBA. As for the Aleutians, I have ~22-23 PT boats set to try and hit something next turn.




Lecivius -> RE: Mar 10-14, 1942 (8/24/2018 3:38:48 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: modrow

Sean,

great jobs in SOPAC (looks like you love sinking enemy merchants as well) and stealing the march on John on Ceylon. [sm=happy0065.gif]

For Yamato, I recommend using a PT boat. This happened in an AAR, unfortunately I forgot which one...

Hartwig


The inestimable Greyjoy [:D]




Anachro -> Mar 15, 1942 (8/24/2018 5:28:39 PM)

Mar 15, 1942

John lands at Umnak Island, which makes more sense, but is also much better defended. I have ~375 AV there with 3+ forts, 50% to 4 forts. I can also reinforce it even more once my carriers clear his ships, with transports already on the way from the West Coast. This should be fun; my carriers are 21 hexes away, will slow down for refueling, and try to hit him in 2-4 days time depending on where he moves his carriers. Note the bombardment from my troops and disablements caused. PT boats don't do much during the turn and some are sunk. If I can hold him from taking Umnak and reinforce it, could potentially destroy a brigade and division here.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/NUNzGzX.png[/image]

[image]https://i.imgur.com/o1WLLBx.png[/image]

In India, it appears a large carrier raiding force escorted by battleships is heading up towards Bombay/Karachi.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/j06Qzqv.png[/image]

EDIT: I keep calling Umnak Island, Umlak in my head and making typos here! [:@]




GetAssista -> RE: Mar 15, 1942 (8/24/2018 10:00:15 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Anachro
John lands at Umnak Island, which makes more sense, but is also much better defended.

What a nasty surprise it must be for John. No chance to prevail against that AV, real threat of his units being pummelled, and KB a world away. Milk him for attention to the fullest!




BBfanboy -> RE: Mar 15, 1942 (8/24/2018 10:52:48 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: GetAssista

quote:

ORIGINAL: Anachro
John lands at Umnak Island, which makes more sense, but is also much better defended.

What a nasty surprise it must be for John. No chance to prevail against that AV, real threat of his units being pummelled, and KB a world away. Milk him for attention to the fullest!

I wouldn't be so sure this early in the game when US troops are mostly mid level experienced. The bombardment shows he has 3X the number of troops, including a Division and a Brigade. The IJA leaders will be very good. And he can bombard from the sea. Rough terrain and 3 forts might not be enough help. [:(]




GetAssista -> RE: Mar 15, 1942 (8/25/2018 6:21:11 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
quote:

ORIGINAL: GetAssista
quote:

ORIGINAL: Anachro
John lands at Umnak Island, which makes more sense, but is also much better defended.

What a nasty surprise it must be for John. No chance to prevail against that AV, real threat of his units being pummelled, and KB a world away. Milk him for attention to the fullest!

I wouldn't be so sure this early in the game when US troops are mostly mid level experienced. The bombardment shows he has 3X the number of troops, including a Division and a Brigade. The IJA leaders will be very good. And he can bombard from the sea. Rough terrain and 3 forts might not be enough help. [:(]

Yeah, there are chances if John brings more. So far he did not even bring a HQ which would penalize his assault AV a lot. Looks like he is doing a rolling land-capture-reembark-repeat amphibious bonus routine and reinforcements might be far away to get to the scene intact. Allies can also bombard from sea into zero Japanese forts, and given real CVs are nearby Japanese bombardments are considerably more risky.




adarbrauner -> RE: Mar 15, 1942 (8/25/2018 5:42:51 PM)

A bad and grim time is looming over John, if this raid gets off nicely as well as others before, his morale , and good part of his navy shall plummet down to basement level.
Not nice start for Japan




Anachro -> Mar 16, 1942 (8/25/2018 6:21:50 PM)

Mar 16, 1942

The die is cast and I can only hope we have something good to say about tomorrow. If all goes well, we might perhaps sink or seriously damage some carriers, surface ships, and perhaps even the Yamato. Below you will find our settings. The Japanese carriers are currently northwest of Umnak Island. BB Yamato sits on the Umnak Island hex after bombarding last turn and perhaps will try to bombard again the following turn before retiring for fuel/ammo. I'd imagine John expects that he can simply retire, rearm, and bombard Umnak into submission. I'm hoping the appearance of Carriers gives me the leeway to reinforce Umnak with the transports you see on the right of the image.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/jX6wi6O.png[/image]

John bombards Umnak with BB Yamato during the night, but despite several PT boat engagements, I regret to inform that no PT boat was able to torpedo or sink the Yamato. Nonetheless, the encouraging thing is that in the follow on land assault during the day, John is unable to reduce the forts and loses ~90 av in disablements.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/1kYxp07.png[/image]

In India, John's carriers strike Bombay and sink an AS and a few subs that were there repairing extensive damage from the port strike on Colombo. Let us hope we can get some form of vengeance tomorrow. Based on the number of planes, I'm confident he has the rest of his carriers in the Indian theater.




modrow -> RE: Mar 16, 1942 (8/25/2018 6:40:59 PM)

[sm=00000613.gif]

May the coordination of your strikes be as good as in the results from the other game you showed earlier in this AAR.

[sm=innocent0001.gif]

Hartwig




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