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Telemecus -> RE: 53 russian moves (3/22/2019 1:47:56 PM)
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ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS
Interesting that as f that turn Soviet air losses are only about 600 aircraft less than the Soviet 8MP game.
This is quite an intersting comparison to make and puts the 8MP into perspective. Perhaps the 8MP losses are not so catastrophic?
It should be said that Axis single seat fighter losses in 8MP are about half, whereas Soviet F/FB losses are about 3,500 higher. Added to this are the several thousand fighters that were never made due to bombing the fighter bomber factories and their subsequent evacuation, plus the outright loss of one fighter factory at Taganrog to ground forces, which although not showing up in the loss figures impact the Soviet fighter arm just as well. So in terms of balance of fighter strength 8MP is much more lopsided - and what you are prepared to do with fighters is also impacted by the fact that the 8MP Axis side has many hundreds in the pools so can take risks whereas the Soviet side could not.
By my own track and according to posts by M60A3TTS the 8MP Soviet bomber arm is in very decent shape - but has simply not been used because of the fighter situation. I guess it would be preferable to have lost many more bombers while doing their job than sitting on an airbase. In key battles, especially in the final capture of Moscow, the 8MP Axis side had hundreds of stukas flying freely and unintercepted whereas the Soviet side had no air component at all. I think the real measure of the air war is in how it has impacted the ground war - and I believe it has substantially and especially in key points.
In terms of flak the 8MP game was started in v1.10. Althought the version has been updated to incorporate the buffs to flak performance, the scenario data remains the same and as such there are far fewer flak guns than in later versions of the game. M60A3TTS and a few others will be better able to give the background on this one - but I guess that explains the flak difference?
The 8MP game has also had far more of the losses in the reconnaisance area. This is deliberate from the Axis side - and from an Axis perspective does not matter very much as they always have lots of spare recon. For similar reasons the Soviet side here may not care a lot about the nearly 1k of U2VS it has lost either.
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