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AllenK -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (1/26/2020 7:31:53 PM)

Northern China after Communist moves.

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AllenK -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (1/26/2020 7:40:32 PM)

The Nationalists continue their cautious pursuit.

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AllenK -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (1/26/2020 7:57:41 PM)

Belgium TERR moves out of Cagliari, plus a minor adjustment in the UK.

Gort debarks to Cagliari.

US INF Div invades Saipan from Marianas. It will be automatic.

US rebases Hellcat to Truk. P-35 goes back to Kwajalein. P-40 from Midway to Wake. Dauntless from Tonga to Espirito Santo.

Turn ends on a 3 (less than 9 required).

No partisans.

USSR puts chit to offence and moves chit from defence to offence.

What do the Germans wish to do?




warspite1 -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (1/26/2020 7:59:14 PM)

Both markers to defence please and switch on offensive to defensive thanks.



warspite1 -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (1/26/2020 8:03:18 PM)

November/December 1942
Impulse: End of Turn Malarchy

Items above the line are in final form

Neutrality Pact:
2 x Defensive Chits plus one moved from Offensive to Defensive please.

Production Planning:

Germany

Oil situation:

2 x Oil from Romania (2 x saved in Nuremburg)
1 x Oil from Romania (to production in Munich)
2 x Oil from USSR (both to production)
1 x Oil from Kirkuk (to production)
1 x Oil from Austria (Saved in Bratislava)
1 x Oil from Germany (to Italy as part of existing trade agreement).

39 Oil last turn so should be 42 (less what is used to reorganise)
38 Build Points (incl. 5 saved)

Italy

Oil Situation:

1 x Oil from Germany (saved in Rome)
11 Build Points (incl. 0 saved)

16 Oil last turn so should be 17 (less what is used to reorganise)

Japan

Oil Situation:

1 x Oil from Borneo (saved in Hiroshima)
11 Build Points (incl. 0 saved)

13 Oil last turn so should be 14 (less what is used to reorganise)

Vichy

The five saved oil should be saved in 3 x Vichy and 2 x Lyons

4 Build Points (incl. 0 saved)

5 x Oil last turn so should be 5 (less what is used to reorganise)


Stay At Sea:
Japan

China Sea: All units in the 3-box stay at sea

South China Sea: All units in the 1-box stay at sea plus the G4M1 in the 4-box

Return to Base:
Germany

Ju-88c to Gdynia

Italy

Submarine to La Spezia

Japan

China Sea: 0-box - G3M2 to Sasebo, 3 x CL in 0-box to Fukuoka

South China Sea: 2 x CL in 0-box + TRS to Fukuoka, A6M2 in 0-box to Bangkok, NAV in 0-box to Tarakan, FTR in 3-box to Yamashita (on Java), fleet in 3-box to Bangkok, fleet in 4-box to Canton

Eastern Indian Ocean: Subs to Bangkok

Vichy

Jean Bart and Strasbourg to Dakar
Dunkerque to Casablanca


Oil Reorganisation:
Japan

All units except for: All three submarines, Yamashiro, Sendai, Tatsuta, Isuzu, Ping Hai, Idzumo, Tama, Kashima, Katori for 3.4 Oil (3 Oil expended)

Germany

Reorganise only: Ju-88C FTR in Poland and Ju-88A1 in Germany 0.4 Oil (0 Oil expended)

Italy

All units 0.3 Oil (0 Oil expended)

Vichy

Only Strasbourg, Dunkerque and Jean Bart, Tourville, Suffren and Colbert for 0.45 (0 Oil expended)

Breakdown: None


Production:
Germany

1 x INF
1 x MECH
1 x ARM
3 x FTR (2)
1 x LND (3)
4 x PIL
7 x Saved Build Points (in Berlin)

Italy

2 x FTR
2 x PIL
1 x INF

Japan

2 x PIL
2 x CARRIER AIR (1)
1 x CONV
1 x SUB Repair
1 x MAR DIV

Vichy

2 x TERR

Reinforcement:
Germany

Konigsberg: Me-210
Vienna: AA
Munich: SS MTN, MECH, Bf-109E-2
Breslau: Bf-110D
Aachen: ARM

Italy

Naples: Macchi
Rome: Macchi
Taranto: CAV

Japan

Say No to the replacements

Fukuoka: Hata HQ, ART, Orange A6M2 (not on carrier)
Sasebo: H3K2, A6M3

Vichy

Depends on the units but unless obvious it should be placed elsewhere, then in the capital.


Trade Agreement:
Germany

No amendment to the agreement with Italy - 2 resources (1 Oil) and 3 BP


If I have the ability to re-roll I will take it.
If I get the chance to move first without re-roll I will.



MEMO ITEM:

Germany
Oil (4 x Warsaw, 3 x Lodz, 3 x Breslau, 4 x Dresden, 4 x Leipzig, 8 x Berlin, 4 x Prague, 4 x Nuremburg, 4 x Vienna, 4 x Bratislava) = 42
Build Points (7 x Berlin)

Italy
Oil (4 x Turin, 4 x Milan, 4 x Genoa, 5 x Rome) = 17
Build Points (0)

Japan
Oil (7 x Tokyo, 3 x Nagoya, 1 x Hiroshima) = 11
Build Points (0)

Vichy
Oil (3 x Vichy, 2 x Lyons) = 5
Build Points (0)



AllenK -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (1/26/2020 8:07:48 PM)

US puts both markers to GE/It. No options taken.



warspite1 -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (1/27/2020 5:07:37 PM)

35!! I do hope that is wrong.....

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Orm -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (1/27/2020 5:13:57 PM)

I suspect that 35 turns left is correct because you guys play with the option Extended game length on.



warspite1 -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (1/27/2020 5:27:49 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Orm

I suspect that 35 turns left is correct because you guys play with the option Extended game length on.
warspite1

Thanks

AllenK was this intentional? I've just read the blurb - and it says:

This optional rule can extend the game as far as Nov/Dec 1952. Of course the game could always end
sooner by mutual agreement of the players or by one side achieving an automatic victory.

This is the only optional rule that can be modified during the game. That is, once you have selected this
optional rule, you can reset when the end of the game occurs as often as you like.

There is an absolute upper limit on the US production multiple: 2.25.

Any thoughts?



AllenK -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (1/27/2020 8:08:05 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Orm

I suspect that 35 turns left is correct because you guys play with the option Extended game length on.
warspite1

Thanks

AllenK was this intentional? I've just read the blurb - and it says:

This optional rule can extend the game as far as Nov/Dec 1952. Of course the game could always end
sooner by mutual agreement of the players or by one side achieving an automatic victory.

This is the only optional rule that can be modified during the game. That is, once you have selected this
optional rule, you can reset when the end of the game occurs as often as you like.

There is an absolute upper limit on the US production multiple: 2.25.

Any thoughts?



Not particularly. When I do optional rules, I tend to select the lot and then turn off the ones not required. This one I don't bother with as it doesn't affect the game and can be changed at anytime anyway. I'll switch it off so we end at the historical time.



AllenK -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/1/2020 11:36:41 AM)

Allied EoT

Stay at Sea/RTB

CW keeps various escorts out plus Dutch Sub in South China Sea. US keeps escorts out in Atlantic and Pacific.

CW escorts return to Liverpool or Gib. TRANS with FTR's in Biscay return to Gib'. The BB's return to Plymouth. Spitfires in West Med return to Cagliari. Beaufighter to Malta. Halifax to Sardinia, NW of Cagliari. AMPH to Cagliari. Hurricane to Malta. Buffalo to Tripoli. Sub in Red Sea to Bombay. Sub in Bengal to Singapore. Beafighter in Bismarck to Manado. Queens to Mogadishu.

US fleet assembles at Truk. Subs in China Sea return to Manilla. TRANS return to Manado and Port Villa. Ships in East Coast return to various ports in Northern Ireland and England.

CW spends 4 oil to reorganise. US spends 5 oil (2 from CW).

Production

China 6
MOT, INF Div

CW 28
FTR-3 x2
Pilot x2
ART-5
MOT
MECH
CP
CL 2nd
AMPH 1st

US 40
PARA
ARM x2
ART-5
CVP-1 x2
Pilot x2
FTR-2
CVL 2nd
Sub 2nd
AMPH
CV
Sub

USSR 27
MOT
MECH Div
LND-3
Pilot
O-chit

CW conquers Somaliland. US conquers Mariana Is.

TERRS at Palembang and Balikpapan destroy oil facilities.

Reinforcements

China - A-20 to Kweilin

CW - Whirlwind scrapped. MOT to Aukland, MECH to Southampton, GARR to Bristol, AIR Div to London, CV and BB to Plymouth. Mosquito and Lancaster to London. ARM to Halifax. Boomerang to Brisbane.

US - CV x2 and BB to San Diego. B-17 and B-24 to Boston. MOT to Norfolk.

USSR - Scraps MBR-2, MOT Smolensk and Vitebsk, AA to Pskov, FTR,s to Vitebsk and Smolensk.

China - MECH and INF Div to Nanyang.

Initiative

Axis 1, Allies 2. Axis re-roll. Both roll a 3 but Allies win ties. Allies decide to go first.

Weather

A mixed bag.

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AllenK -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/1/2020 5:19:54 PM)

US attempts to declare war on Germany and Italy and succeeds on a 1. Mexico is aligned.

Naval: US.
Land: China
Combined: CW, USSR

CW - Beaufighter from Malta to Italian Coast 3-box. Spitfire and Hurricane from Gib to West Med 2-box. Beaufighter from Manado to South China Sea 3-box.

US - Hudsons fly to Marianas and Solomons 4-boxes.

CW - TRANS at Calcutta loads GARR and sails to East Indian Ocean 0-box. Sub at Singapore to South China Sea 3-box.

US - TRANS from UK sail to East Coast 0-box and load CW ARM, MOT and CAV Div. Escorts to East Coast and North Atlantic. Subs from Manilla to China Sea 3-box. TRANS from Menado sails to Marshalls 0-box and loads INF from Midway. 6CV and 5 CA/CL sail from Truk to China Sea 3-box. I decline the intercept as it's pretty obvious they are going to stop there. TRANS from Port Vila to West Coast 0-box where to loads Mustang.

Two sea areas for combat.

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AllenK -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/1/2020 5:28:41 PM)

First up, China Sea.

US CA initiates.

Japanese can add a variety of air support. D3A2, Ki-27 and A6M5 can make 1-box. G3M2 and A6M3 can make 3-box. Seiko can make 4-box. Any taking to the skies?

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warspite1 -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/1/2020 5:43:08 PM)

The three aircraft that can make the 3-box and the two that can make the 0-box do so (the A6M5 stays out of it) please.



AllenK -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/2/2020 10:06:46 AM)

US subs decide to stay out of this for the time being.

Both side quickly locate each other, the Japanese slightly ahead of the Allies, giving a slight advantage (2 points). Searches: Allies 3, Axis 1.

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AllenK -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/2/2020 10:10:27 AM)

Do Japanese carrier aircraft fly to the defence of the mother ships or set out to strike the enemy?

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warspite1 -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/2/2020 10:40:28 AM)

The Japanese fly as bombers
I increase Axis A2A combat
The bomber order is D3A1, Seiku, B5N1, G3M2, G3M2

Thank-you



AllenK -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/2/2020 10:53:09 AM)

Presumably clear though the Seiku?

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warspite1 -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/2/2020 10:54:48 AM)

Clear through one of the G3M2's please.



AllenK -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/2/2020 11:00:13 AM)

Round 2

The Axis fighters tear into the leading wave of bombers wiping them out but this uses all their ammo up. (Rolls of Axis 5 DX front fighter or bomber Allied choice and 15 AA. Allies choose to abort Japanese fighter.

Where does the fighter abort to?

Allies will stay. Japanese?



warspite1 -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/2/2020 11:05:23 AM)

Fukuoka and the Axis Stay

Thank-you



AllenK -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/2/2020 11:10:15 AM)

Defensive fire from the bomber formations proves too much for the leading Allied fighters. 4 rolled DX. Which bomber do the Japanese clear?

Allies stay. Japanese?

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warspite1 -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/2/2020 11:14:20 AM)

The second G3M2 is cleared through
The Japanese stay

Thank-you



AllenK -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/2/2020 11:17:51 AM)

Same result as previous round. Which bomber?

Allies stay, presumably Axis too.

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warspite1 -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/2/2020 11:22:39 AM)

The B5N1 is cleared through
The Japanese stay

Thank-you



AllenK -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/2/2020 11:26:43 AM)

Final outcome.

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AllenK -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/2/2020 11:29:42 AM)

Japanese gunners put up a fairly effective barrage.

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AllenK -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/2/2020 11:33:02 AM)

US gunners attempt to make up for the dismal performance by the aviators. How would the Japanese like to allocate these?

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warspite1 -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/2/2020 11:38:43 AM)

Abort one of the G3M2's
A 2 point reduction on each of the carrier aircraft
The G3M2 flies to Sasebo

Thank-you



warspite1 -> RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR (2/2/2020 11:40:17 AM)

I don't know about you but I now get a madexcept.....[:@]



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