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Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/12/2019 8:28:40 PM)
I have seen bad luck, but this must be the new record on ground strikes...

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/12/2019 8:41:10 PM)
Mar/Apr 1940 Impulse: 7 (Axis) Rail Movement: None Land Movement: Italy The Italians move around a bit on the French border and in Ethiopia Germany The Germans move forces around in Belgium/Germany/Holland and also Denmark Japan The Japanese decide to withdraw in the north and consolidate in the south Debark: Germany Why won't the program allow my infantry to land in Copenhagen? That's annoying. I don't get the option to debark my MIL.

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/12/2019 8:57:28 PM)
quote: Why won't the program allow my infantry to land in Copenhagen? You have 2 corps there already. Did you move one of them away first? EDIT: I go test.

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/12/2019 9:03:31 PM)
Well, that was weird. Same thing happened to me. Germany has chosen land action. Germany moved one MIL from Copenhagen to SW. Program skipped debark phase, even if Germany has MIL on TRS. Is there a reason or is this a bug? [image]local://upfiles/39586/79E8F374AC75405BBE4901EB24D19DEB.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/12/2019 9:04:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer quote: Why won't the program allow my infantry to land in Copenhagen? You have 2 corps there already. Did you move one of them away first? EDIT: I go test. warspite1 Yes - I moved a corps to the southwest. I have also tried not moving the corps and debarking directly to the southwest. The MIL is face up on an organised TRS so I don't understand what I'm missing.

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/12/2019 9:05:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 quote: ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer quote: Why won't the program allow my infantry to land in Copenhagen? You have 2 corps there already. Did you move one of them away first? EDIT: I go test. warspite1 Yes - I moved a corps to the southwest. I have also tried not moving the corps and debarking to the southwest. The MIL is face up on an organised TRS so I don't understand what I'm missing. See above post. I don't get it either. I can edit file and move MIL to Denmark if you send me the file at current phase (next after debark).

composer99 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/12/2019 9:15:27 PM)
Those have got to be the least fortunate aggregate of ground strike rolls I have ever seen - are you sure you aren't cursed, warspite? Your land attacks during the crucial summer of 1940 vs AllenK, and now these ground strikes. Whew!

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/12/2019 9:15:34 PM)
I've sent the file over at the air transport phase. I will call it a night there.

Courtenay -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/12/2019 9:19:13 PM)
Chance of missing every ground strike was 0.75%.

Courtenay -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/12/2019 9:24:45 PM)
Clearly the Axis pilots were intimidated by the French invisible AA guns! [:)]

rkr1958 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/13/2019 4:42:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer Well, that was weird. Same thing happened to me. Germany has chosen land action. Germany moved one MIL from Copenhagen to SW. Program skipped debark phase, even if Germany has MIL on TRS. Is there a reason or is this a bug? I assume you're playing with the latest version? If so, then a suggestion if I might. Save the game to a "temp" filename, revert version back to 2.7.0, try with that version and see what happens.

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/13/2019 4:59:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rkr1958 quote: ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer Well, that was weird. Same thing happened to me. Germany has chosen land action. Germany moved one MIL from Copenhagen to SW. Program skipped debark phase, even if Germany has MIL on TRS. Is there a reason or is this a bug? I assume you're playing with the latest version? If so, then a suggestion if I might. Save the game to a "temp" filename, revert version back to 2.7.0, try with that version and see what happens. Thanks, I will try that in few hours.

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/13/2019 8:13:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer quote: ORIGINAL: rkr1958 quote: ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer Well, that was weird. Same thing happened to me. Germany has chosen land action. Germany moved one MIL from Copenhagen to SW. Program skipped debark phase, even if Germany has MIL on TRS. Is there a reason or is this a bug? I assume you're playing with the latest version? If so, then a suggestion if I might. Save the game to a "temp" filename, revert version back to 2.7.0, try with that version and see what happens. Thanks, I will try that in few hours. We are playing with version 2.9.5 I reverted game down to 2.7.1 which we are using in our other games. Same thing happened. So I post this to Tech Forum. We move on, I edited that MIL to Copenhagen. If anyone want to test this with other version, save file is going to Tech Forum.

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/13/2019 9:17:32 AM)
Did you send the file back - I don't seem to have received anything? Edit: Okay thanks. If you attack either hex next impulse we will manually amend the results. The MOT should be southwest of Copenhagen and the MIL in the capital. If, not, and they are not ground struck and if I am in supply I will move them on my next land impulse.

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/13/2019 9:21:42 AM)
Yes I did, I do it again.

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/13/2019 9:36:15 AM)
Mar/Apr 1940 Impulse: 7 (Axis) Land Combat: None Air Rebase: None HQ Reorganisation: Germany von Leeb and von Bock reorganise two Stukas Italy Balbo reorganises the BA.65 End of Turn: Turn ends on less than a 2 (a 1 is thrown)

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/13/2019 11:16:54 AM)
Mar/Apr 1940 End of Turn orders (Axis) Neutrality Pact: The Germans will two defensive markers please Production Planning: Germany 2 x Oil from Romania (both saved in Lodz) 2 x Oil from USSR (1 to production and 1 saved in Berlin) 1 x Oil from Austria (to Italy as part of the Trade Agreement) 1 x Oil from Germany (to production) 14 Build Points Italy 1 x Oil from Romania (to production) 1 x Oil from Germany (saved in Milan) 5 Build Points Japan 2 x Oil from NEI (saved in Yokohama) 2 x Oil from USA (to production) 13 Build Points Stay At Sea: Convoys stay at sea Germany Scharnhorst, Leipzig and Nurnberg move to 3-box Return to Base: Germany All other German ships on the Baltic return to Stettin Sub to Kiel Italy All German subs and NAV to La Spezia Oil Reorganisation: Japan All units for 0.2 oil (0 oil expended) Germany All units except 2 x SUB and Koln for 1.45 oil (1 oil expended) Italy Reorganise Balbo and Pola only for 0.45 oil (0 Oil expended) Breakdown: None Production: Germany Scrap 3-3 SUB, Do-17M 1 x MIL 1 x ART (4) 1 x FTR (2) 1 x LND (2) 2 x PIL Italy Scrap CR.32bis, SM.81 and Ca.133 1 x Repair Sub 1 x NAV (2) 1 x PIL Japan Scrap D2A1 Val (Light Blue) Naval Repair Takao 1 x TRS (1st Cycle) 1 x SUB (1st Cycle) 1 x Musashi (1st Cycle) 1 x INF 1 x MIL 1 x PIL 1 x Carrier Air (0) Reinforcement: Germany Stettin: Emden, CONV Aachen: Bf-109 Dusseldorf: Stuka Italy La Spezia: Littorio, SUB Japan Fukuoka: CONV, Hiei, Kashima, MECH Trade Agreement: Germany 3 Resources to Italy - (1 oil) - No Change to this agreement Memo Item: Oil situation: Germany 9 (7 x Berlin, 2 x Lodz), Italy 4 (4 x Milan, 1 x Turin) and Japan 11 (6 x Tokyo, 3 x Yokohama, 1 x Kyoto and 1 x Nagoya) If I can, and if required, Re-Roll I will go first if I get the opportunity to choose

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/13/2019 1:45:18 PM)
Mayhemizer is offline so in order that I can do my production planning I will do the throws for the partisans and post them here for Mayhemizer to input. There was a scare (for the Axis) in China, but ultimately only one partisan - in French Indo-China. The partisan is placed to the east of the existing one. [image]local://upfiles/28156/78EB2F96B3324C188E7FECBE4232A28D.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/13/2019 6:25:34 PM)
Right there will be a slight delay as we try and fix a bug in the game. Hopefully this should not be too bad as most (all?) key events are recorded. It's only individual unit movement we don't record but we'll just have to recreate to the best of our ability. I think going forward we should try every avenue before editing games. Even if it means a problem with convoys, we should explore options other than editing. I notice this action potentially caused issues in the 4-player game and I think there was an edit in this game caused by convoy frustrations. Let's see what happens then, and if this fixes the TRS / Debark problem. Right - the MIL is aboard the transport. Let's see what happens as the impulse and the turn progress. [image]local://upfiles/28156/EDC303B8054849A884286717EF14DF0B.jpg[/image] Okay, that's the Axis impulse done. I will pass over to Mayhemizer to do his impulse. Then it will be back to the Axis for their second and last impulse of the turn. Personally I think this was all a nefarious plan of his to make me re-live those ground strikes again [;)]

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/13/2019 7:38:58 PM)
quote: Personally I think this was all a nefarious plan of his to make me re-live those ground strikes again Allies are playing mind games...

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/13/2019 9:26:00 PM)
Okay so all 3 impulses played and the problem went away. The unit must have come 'unattached' from the TRS at some unknown point. Game now back with Mayhemizer for the end of turn malarchy.

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/14/2019 6:56:54 PM)
quote: The partisan is placed to the east of the existing one. I entered all the numbers on your post and got 0 strength partisan. I can kill it automatically on mountains, would like to place it on jungle so that it has defense value 1?

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/14/2019 7:05:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer quote: The partisan is placed to the east of the existing one. I entered all the numbers on your post and got 0 strength partisan. I can kill it automatically on mountains, would like to place it on jungle so that it has defense value 1? warspite1 Can you place it in Hue please?

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/14/2019 7:07:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 quote: ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer quote: The partisan is placed to the east of the existing one. I entered all the numbers on your post and got 0 strength partisan. I can kill it automatically on mountains, would like to place it on jungle so that it has defense value 1? warspite1 Can you place it in Hue please? Sure

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/14/2019 8:03:10 PM)
USSR marker to offense. US marker to Ge/It pool. US needs tension to advance in their entry options. Occupying Greenland and Iceland gives nice effect and biggest marker moves to tension... Production China 5 CW 13 (9 oils saved) France 10 (2 oils saved) US 11 USSR 14 This is the best game ever, but CW production is the most painful thing ever... Stay at Sea and RTB Almost all CW ships return to base, mostly escorts are in low boxes. French sub stays on Italian Coast, mostly others return to base. TRS with MIL to Brest. Oil use CW all for 2,25 oil France all for 1,1 oil US one CP for free Now I'm at prodcution and Italy has only 4 BPs. Somehow one oil that was going to production is now saved to Milan. And French production is 9. I think I quit from tonight and continue tomorrow. I consider editing the file. Is there a way to set resource going certain route to certain factory, so that program is not allowed to change it ever? And if order is impossible, it's idle. I don't know how to do it, but this would be great.

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/15/2019 6:50:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer This is the best game ever, but CW production is the most painful thing ever... Now I'm at prodcution and Italy has only 4 BPs. Somehow one oil that was going to production is now saved to Milan. And French production is 9. I think I quit from tonight and continue tomorrow. I consider editing the file. warspite1 Yes I see this all the time - well intermittently, but enough to cause a problem. I save oil in the initial planning stage - only to find it is earmarked for production in the final stage and - more commonly - I put oil to production, which is then saved when I get to Final stage. This is irritating in the extreme because one can't change it in the final stage if its lent.

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/17/2019 7:46:32 PM)
I went back to oil use and fixed production after Italian and CW oil use. Only to find Germany with new problem. So I went back to oil use and fixed all productions after each major power's oil use. After that Germany, Italy and France had one BP missing. Germany and Italy had one oil too much saved. So I went back to oil use and expended one oil from both Axis countries and fixed production for those 3 major powers. Production China 5 MOT CAV div CW 13 2x Pilot FTR3 INF AMPH (1st) France 10 GAR FTR2 INF HQ Save 1 BP US 11 TRS (1st) CA (1st) CP Save 7 BPs USSR 14 MTN div GAR CAV 2x INF Pilot After all this Italy got over stacked oil, I guess I failed at some point to check that one oil goes to Turin. Would it be OK that I edit one oil to Italy next turn end to avoid redoing this all once again? I need one oil to Turin, then I edit it into two. Reinforcements China CAV div to Hengyang CW NAV2 to Belfast. CV,CA,CL and 2x CP to Plymouth CP Bombay France MECH to Lille INF to Paris US GAR and sub ti San Diego USSR CA to Vladivostok 2x INF to east (Vladivostok and B-town) 2x INF to Minsk Ski div to Cernauti ComChi INF to Taiyuan Lending resources CW to France is modified to 2 res (1 oil) US sends one res to China Initiative: Axis 6, Allied 5. Axis win and they go first. Axis get the perfect weather. [image]local://upfiles/39586/97E62ED8B82F4AEC804B5F76230EAEC5.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/17/2019 10:51:30 PM)
Well I don't like the idea of editing but understand if you don't want to do this all again. Okay let's just keep our fingers crossed.

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/19/2019 9:56:35 AM)
May/Jun 1940 Impulse: 1 (Axis) Declarations of War and Alignments: None Japan: Land Germany: Land Italy : Land Port Attack: None Naval Air: None Strategic Bombing: None Ground Strike: Italy A Ba.65 flies to the Alps. Germany I bring in four Stukas against the three hexes in Belgium (there are two southeast of Brussels) held by the French. No aircraft fly as escort. Japan The Japanese try an ART groundstrike in the mountains east of Changsha The aircraft available on the Italian front can be seen. In the north there is a 6-strength fighter below the 4-strength. What do the French want to do? [image]local://upfiles/28156/EE89220C249346BD82A8C64B887F00BE.jpg[/image]

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/19/2019 11:00:58 AM)
No intercept and no AA fire.

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