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Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 7:15:28 AM)
Rolls are 8 and 9, combat is over.

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 7:19:41 AM)
CW ground strike is accurate this time! [image]local://upfiles/39586/4286AF4140204533B8358A7C996067B0.jpg[/image]

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 7:44:18 AM)
Rail move CW GAR from Lille to Bayonne. US ART from West Coast to East Coast. USSR INF from Persia to Lvov. Land move ComChi retreat. NatChi move 2 units few hexes. CW units in France retreat French units retreat mostly behind river Seine. Maginot line is abandon. Rebase French planes behind front line. CW FTR2 to Denmark, FTR3 to Portsmouth so that it covers CW units in France. HQ reorg CW uses Gort to reorg ART in Denmark. Situation in Europe after Allied impulse. [image]local://upfiles/39586/4A7700ABB754489E92E26101510FCF27.jpg[/image]

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 7:46:16 AM)
And China. [image]local://upfiles/39586/9D06564D39CC4410B90C2439F554CD88.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 1:28:26 PM)
Well those pictures are just depressing. I've lost the will to fight quicker than in the game with AllenK - I guess because I foolishly believed I had hope in this game, whereas the wheels fell off the Folly A Deux game right at the start. And as a wise man once said; its the hope that kills you.....

Courtenay -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 2:27:21 PM)
I am curious. Why did the French give up two full hexrows, letting the Germans immediately get adjacent to Paris?

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 2:41:04 PM)
I wanted to test how you can defend France with this style, I have 2 forts in Paris. At some point I planned to retreat behind river line. If I would have stayed where I was, Stukas would have hit half of French units and this I would not have been able to test this. Also I lost Belgian units and I needed pull CW units back as most of my units are in Denmark.

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 2:43:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Courtenay I am curious. Why did the French give up two full hexrows, letting the Germans immediately get adjacent to Paris? warspite1 Seems sensible to me. The Germans now have to waste an entire impulse getting units in a position to attack next impulse (if they are lucky) - which means the units in Denmark are in danger of annihilation the way my convoy points have been found and destroyed almost at will. If the Germans take a more cautious approach to try and save the units in Denmark then it will take even longer - and not guarantee saving Denmark either. And the longer it takes, the more chance of the turn ending... No German aircraft are in position to assist an attack against France. The French have artillery and AT (and forts) which means even if they got to the French front line, the Germans aren't taking it anytime soon and run the risk of being ground struck before they can attack. It looks like a sound plan to me and frankly pretty hopeless for the Germans.

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 3:29:52 PM)
Jul/Aug 1940 Impulse: 2 (Axis) Declarations of War and Alignments: None Japan: Combined Germany: Combined Italy: Combined Port Attack: None Naval Air: Germany A fighter flies to the Baltic 0-box Naval Movement: Japan The Japanese put two TRS to sea (China Sea) to pick up an INF and a MIL Germany Bismarck, Deutschland and Graf Spee put to sea with a TRS and an AMPH loaded with a MIL and an ART and move to the 3-box. Italy Three SUBS head for Cape St Vincent (2) - 1 in the 3-box and one in the 2-box and Cape Verde Basin (1) - 2-box Naval Search: Italy In the Cape Verde Basin both roll a 3 and no combat occurs. In the Cape St Vincent its the same, the Axis roll a 6 and the Allies an 8. No combat. Germany The Germans decline combat in the Baltic. What do the CW want to do? [image]local://upfiles/28156/06209EAC418D48DF88D52FC133BFDBF5.jpg[/image]

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 3:52:46 PM)
Fairey initiates combat. No extra air, sub is included.

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 3:58:25 PM)
Jul/Aug 1940 Impulse: 2 (Axis) Naval search Germany Genuinely nothing to be done but grit one's teeth and laugh - which is not easy when gritting one's teeth. Allies - 3 Axis - 5 What are the CW going to do?

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 4:02:35 PM)
I did some calculations and I think I can’t abort/sink those CPs using sub. So I take naval air combat and choose box 3.

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 4:04:43 PM)
Okay as if my mood wasn't bad enough, we now have more buggy crap. Only the two ships in the 3-box last impulse are showing. Looks like I'm going to have to re-do the impulse.

composer99 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 4:04:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 quote: ORIGINAL: Courtenay I am curious. Why did the French give up two full hexrows, letting the Germans immediately get adjacent to Paris? warspite1 Seems sensible to me. The Germans now have to waste an entire impulse getting units in a position to attack next impulse (if they are lucky) - which means the units in Denmark are in danger of annihilation the way my convoy points have been found and destroyed almost at will. If the Germans take a more cautious approach to try and save the units in Denmark then it will take even longer - and not guarantee saving Denmark either. And the longer it takes, the more chance of the turn ending... No German aircraft are in position to assist an attack against France. The French have artillery and AT (and forts) which means even if they got to the French front line, the Germans aren't taking it anytime soon and run the risk of being ground struck before they can attack. It looks like a sound plan to me and frankly pretty hopeless for the Germans. Eh, I think you're fine as long as the French can't end the turn early. Unless the weather goes bad and the turn starts advancing quickly, you'll have at least one guaranteed impulse to take a crack at Paris. If you want to risk the Allies getting an end-of-turn roll before then, you can take the hex NW of Paris to get a third hex that is also not covered by a fort.

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 4:06:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 Okay as if my mood wasn't bad enough, we now have more buggy crap. Only the two ships in the 3-box last impulse are showing. Looks like I'm going to have to re-do the impulse. Wait. I aborted one of them last impulse. You should have only 2 left.

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 4:12:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer_slith quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 Okay as if my mood wasn't bad enough, we now have more buggy crap. Only the two ships in the 3-box last impulse are showing. Looks like I'm going to have to re-do the impulse. Wait. I aborted one of them last impulse. You should have only 2 left. warspite1 No I just put to sea with a whole new fleet. I've re-done and they show up. Any undo in the naval phase completely screws the game up. If you want to undo then you should start the impulse over. Does this mean you want to re-think?

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 4:14:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: composer99 quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 quote: ORIGINAL: Courtenay I am curious. Why did the French give up two full hexrows, letting the Germans immediately get adjacent to Paris? warspite1 Seems sensible to me. The Germans now have to waste an entire impulse getting units in a position to attack next impulse (if they are lucky) - which means the units in Denmark are in danger of annihilation the way my convoy points have been found and destroyed almost at will. If the Germans take a more cautious approach to try and save the units in Denmark then it will take even longer - and not guarantee saving Denmark either. And the longer it takes, the more chance of the turn ending... No German aircraft are in position to assist an attack against France. The French have artillery and AT (and forts) which means even if they got to the French front line, the Germans aren't taking it anytime soon and run the risk of being ground struck before they can attack. It looks like a sound plan to me and frankly pretty hopeless for the Germans. Eh, I think you're fine as long as the French can't end the turn early. Unless the weather goes bad and the turn starts advancing quickly, you'll have at least one guaranteed impulse to take a crack at Paris. If you want to risk the Allies getting an end-of-turn roll before then, you can take the hex NW of Paris to get a third hex that is also not covered by a fort. I did builds for this defense. The only thing I'm missing (in addition to planes that where shot down with pilots) is AA gun. I'm pretty confident Paris is difficult to attack. I have INF (6), GAR (6) and ART (4) in city. Behind Paris I have HQ and on adjacent hex ART (3). NW hex has INF (6) and MECH (6) now, next impulse I can place ARM and AT gun there. If I keep INF, ARM and AT gun there, Germany needs at least 2,5 ARM to get blitz. Germany has 2 ARM + ARM HQ in Belgium. ARM div is in Kiel for counter attack if CW comes to Germany. So to get blitz, Germany need to commit HQ to attack. Unless they would have attacked this impulse, but they have only one fighter in range and France has FTR2 and FTR3 to support attack and ART (4) in Paris.

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 4:15:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: composer99 quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 quote: ORIGINAL: Courtenay I am curious. Why did the French give up two full hexrows, letting the Germans immediately get adjacent to Paris? warspite1 Seems sensible to me. The Germans now have to waste an entire impulse getting units in a position to attack next impulse (if they are lucky) - which means the units in Denmark are in danger of annihilation the way my convoy points have been found and destroyed almost at will. If the Germans take a more cautious approach to try and save the units in Denmark then it will take even longer - and not guarantee saving Denmark either. And the longer it takes, the more chance of the turn ending... No German aircraft are in position to assist an attack against France. The French have artillery and AT (and forts) which means even if they got to the French front line, the Germans aren't taking it anytime soon and run the risk of being ground struck before they can attack. It looks like a sound plan to me and frankly pretty hopeless for the Germans. Eh, I think you're fine as long as the French can't end the turn early. Unless the weather goes bad and the turn starts advancing quickly, you'll have at least one guaranteed impulse to take a crack at Paris. If you want to risk the Allies getting an end-of-turn roll before then, you can take the hex NW of Paris to get a third hex that is also not covered by a fort. warspite1 Assuming I can even get a crack at the hex without being ground struck what are the chances of taking out Paris, with forts and three units, from two hexes? Sounds like a receipe for total German disaster.

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 4:15:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 quote: ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer_slith quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 Okay as if my mood wasn't bad enough, we now have more buggy crap. Only the two ships in the 3-box last impulse are showing. Looks like I'm going to have to re-do the impulse. Wait. I aborted one of them last impulse. You should have only 2 left. warspite1 No I just put to sea with a whole new fleet. I've re-done and they show up. Any undo in the naval phase completely screws the game up. If you want to undo then you should start the impulse over. Does this mean you want to re-think? Oh, you have fleet there. I though all ships are in box 0. Can I choose 0 box only and use 4 points to sub combat? EDIT: This is what happens when you read in hurry from phone [8\|]

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 4:17:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer_slith quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 quote: ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer_slith quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 Okay as if my mood wasn't bad enough, we now have more buggy crap. Only the two ships in the 3-box last impulse are showing. Looks like I'm going to have to re-do the impulse. Wait. I aborted one of them last impulse. You should have only 2 left. warspite1 No I just put to sea with a whole new fleet. I've re-done and they show up. Any undo in the naval phase completely screws the game up. If you want to undo then you should start the impulse over. Does this mean you want to re-think? Oh, you have fleet there. I though all ships are in box 0. Can I choose 0 box only and use 4 points to sub combat? warspite1 Yes the post says 3-box.

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 4:19:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 quote: ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer_slith quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 quote: ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer_slith quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 Okay as if my mood wasn't bad enough, we now have more buggy crap. Only the two ships in the 3-box last impulse are showing. Looks like I'm going to have to re-do the impulse. Wait. I aborted one of them last impulse. You should have only 2 left. warspite1 No I just put to sea with a whole new fleet. I've re-done and they show up. Any undo in the naval phase completely screws the game up. If you want to undo then you should start the impulse over. Does this mean you want to re-think? Oh, you have fleet there. I though all ships are in box 0. Can I choose 0 box only and use 4 points to sub combat? warspite1 Yes the post says 3-box. Yeah, I missed that. My priority was to sink CPs with sub, but I can also go with planes to box 3 if you are at that stage.

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 4:23:16 PM)
If you are in naval air combat, don't use any points to AA fire. I think you have lowest of 4. Any points I may have are saved to increase damage.

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 4:25:10 PM)
I've just re-done the impulse and seen the last two posts. What do you want me to do?

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 4:26:00 PM)
Choose only box 3 and attack with bombers.

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 4:33:38 PM)
Damage points = 2 and a 1 point reduction - is that right?? Nothing happened - is this on half range maybe? [image]local://upfiles/28156/6B309E60FF3F4B6F9F5B6D4D5F308BCC.jpg[/image]

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 4:34:35 PM)
Correct, I had only one point or air to sea factors. Allies stay and sub is included.

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 4:37:58 PM)
Jul/Aug 1940 Impulse: 2 (Axis) Naval search (cont): Germany Allies - 7 Axis - 4 No combat Strategic Bombing: None Ground Strike: None Rail Movement: None Land Movement: Japan Yamamoto moves closer to the action Italy An INF takes Khartoum The Invasion of British Somaliland is underway Germany The Germans make tentative moves into France Debark: Germany An ART lands in Copenhagen Japan The MIL and INF are landed in Tsingtao and Haichow Land Combat: None Air Rebase: Italy A fighter moves to Rostock A second fighter moves south of Leipzig Germany The Germans move 3 fighters and 2 bombers closer to the front Weather: Allied Impulse 3 - the throw is a 10 [image]local://upfiles/28156/CA3890E642D549D18525D8B99667C9E0.jpg[/image]

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 6:40:39 PM)
J/A 40 Allied 3 No DoW France and China land, others combined. Naval move CW sends escorts to CSV box 0 and 4. US sends CAs to East Coast. CW declines all but Baltic Sea. No more planes for Allies, I guess Germany don't send anymore either?

warspite1 -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 7:02:44 PM)
I assume no ships or aircraft have moved in? If not then no thank-you.

Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR (4/26/2019 7:04:30 PM)
Yes, nothing new in Baltic Sea. Allied 5, Axis 2. Both high boxes find. Germany has 2 points. They will automatically negate CW air power, so I use them to increase AA fire. Rolls: 3 5 4 6. No damage, new round is coming. I assume Axis stay?

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