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RangerJoe -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/18/2020 5:01:17 PM)
There just weren't enough fifty caliber M2 machines to equip the British bombers as well.

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/18/2020 5:04:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe There just weren't enough fifty caliber M2 machines to equip the British bombers as well. Really? The Brits didn't get that many B-24 so how many cal.50 are we talking about? A couple of hundred?

Evoken -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/18/2020 5:21:06 PM)
Castor have you ever tried setting your layered cap to 2-3-4k instead of 5-10-15k ? I have seen some promising results in the other thread , would be worth trying.

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/18/2020 5:54:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Evoken Castor have you ever tried setting your layered cap to 2-3-4k instead of 5-10-15k ? I have seen some promising results in the other thread , would be worth trying. can do even though I've never seen it neutralizing the intial dives. You come in higher, you get the dive. When the dive is done, it's equal fight, it's just the initial dive phase that makes every somewhat decent fighter a Starwars X-fighter piloted by a Jedimaster.

mind_messing -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/18/2020 6:32:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alpha77 Also the argument by Mind Messing regarding CAP being "out of position" if the next wave arrives, this does not hold up. If 80 fighters are in the air, and 3 bombers fleeing after dropping bombs, for sure not the whole unit would pursue thsese 3 planes, but perhaps 4-5 which would be "out of position" leaving still ca. 70 for the next wave (depending on fuel of course) You seem to have missed the part where I pointed out the fairly slight speed advantage the IJ fighters possessed. A "pursuit" in that circumstance would have been technically possible, but likely the bombers would be safely landed by the time the IJ fighters caught up with them. quote: Morning Air attack on Hyderabad , at 39,32 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 40,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 17 minutes Japanese aircraft N1K2-J George x 40 Ki-84a Frank x 83 Allied aircraft P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 26 Japanese aircraft losses N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed damn it, could have known that 16 P-47 is not going to be all on the sweep and this time we face 26... more P-47 at MAX altitude of course means MORE dives... this time there weren't 6 dives, but 14, result were 11 fighters shot down during the P-47 dives for NO P-47 lost... I'm not talking about damaged ones that crash later or being write offs, talking about outright kills during the air combat... so the 11 downed IJ fighters right at the start mean that this is going to be a disaster when it comes down to total K/D ratio as our fighters, despite still outnumbering the enemy 4:1 were only able to down 2 P-47 right away with a couple more being damaged... end result was somewhere around 25 IJ fighters lost for 10 P-47, without the dive (that apparantly has no effect in the game) and the kills during it the P-47 would have lost in total kills... another 10+ fighters were downed by the B-24J... Aircraft Attacking: 9 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 37000 feet 2 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 37000 feet CAP engaged: 263 Ku S-2 with N1K2-J George (3 airborne, 19 on standby, 2 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. 13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 33000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes 25th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 18 on standby, 1 scrambling) 21 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 31514. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes 54th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (3 airborne, 21 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. 19 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 31514. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes So indulge another of my digressions into how it's not "just" the dive here. The P-47's have the dive, as well as a notable speed advantage along with the tactical advantage (17 mins warning versus 19 mins for first whole IJ group to intercept). Neither is the CAP mutually supporting at 5-10-15k. It in effect isn't a single combat, it's the P47s mauling one squadron and then moving on to the rest. Instead of facing superior numbers, your squadrons were engaged and defeated in detail. quote: ORIGINAL: castor troy quote: ORIGINAL: Evoken Castor have you ever tried setting your layered cap to 2-3-4k instead of 5-10-15k ? I have seen some promising results in the other thread , would be worth trying. can do even though I've never seen it neutralizing the intial dives. You come in higher, you get the dive. When the dive is done, it's equal fight, it's just the initial dive phase that makes every somewhat decent fighter a Starwars X-fighter piloted by a Jedimaster. 2-3-4 will work far better for you than 5-10-15. It isn't as one sided as you'd think - yes, you'll take the hit with the initial dive bonus, but it will make it much easier for your responding CAP to get into a better position and get the dive in return. The generally lower altitude will be useful as you'll occasionally get sweeps missing the lower CAP and get more out of the (generally) superior IJ MVR ratings. quote: ORIGINAL: castor troy quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe There just weren't enough fifty caliber M2 machines to equip the British bombers as well. Really? The Brits didn't get that many B-24 so how many cal.50 are we talking about? A couple of hundred? I had a quick check and the British Liberators all have .303's in the rear turret position, hence the reduced defensive fire. My understanding is that represents the Boulton Paul turrets that the RAF used on bombers, which would likely involve stripping out the 50 cals for the 303 (and explains why the waist guns remain 50 cal on the British Liberators..

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/18/2020 8:13:35 PM)
Asumptions, abstractions, whatever... While I have learnt from your comments that I have no clue about ground combat, ground movement, flak, A2A and what not else I now get to learn I also don't know the stats of a P-47 or I don't know how to compare it to Georges and Franks. Thank you so much, how I could I ever play this game when I don't even get the basics? Insanely so that there are AARs from WITP all the way to AE that still keep me doing quite well. Must be insane luck or all dumb opponents. Ok, it's not the dive. But it might be you not reading what I post: 11 fighters shot down during the P-47 dives for NO P-47 lost when the dive ended, it was equal fight. How could that be when the P-47 is oh so superior? How could it be to have a 11:0 K/D turn into a worse than 1:1 K/D for the oh so superior P-47? The dive isn't important, all that is important is trying to find an abstraction that isn't there. BETWEEN THE 11:0 AND 1:1 K/D WAS ONLY ONE DIFFERENCE, THE DIVE! Stats don't change during combat, all that changed was the sweeper not having the dive anymore. I've been saying it for a decade, the dive is way too powerful and your oh so praised air team lead replied at some point it is totally gaming the game to do these kind of sweeps aka strato sweeps. What are you doing? Finding an abstraction for this and that. Funny. Not. Really, I've said it before and I will repeat, this is not worth it! Not at all, it's only annoying to have a discussion that is ignoring what actually is happening. You: The dive isn't important. Everything else is important. You (castor) are not getting it at all. You (castor) have no clue. Real result in the game: The dive got the P-47 a 11:0 kill rate while it lasted, without the dive they didn't achieve even 1:1. Again, not worth it, it has become totally ridicoulos and I'll just stop here. If you wanna keep it in this AAR I'll as well stop the AAR and leave you in your fantasy world of abstractions and what not. Have only found one AAR in the AAR section and I wasn't impressed at all so I wonder who is trying to teach me here. I'm not impressed.

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/18/2020 8:23:18 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 21, 44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Foochow at 87,60 Japanese Ships TK Hioki Maru TK Tonan Maru #3 E Saishu E Ishizaki E Hoko Allied Ships SS Bream, hits 1 enemy sub in shallow waters driven off by the escorts... rare happening... SS Bream is sighted by escort Bream bottoming out .... E Saishu fails to find sub and abandons search E Ishizaki fails to find sub and abandons search E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search... E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search... E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search... E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search... E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search... E Hoko attacking submerged sub .... E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 25th Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 169 Ki-49-IIb Helen x 14 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 40 damaged Ki-49-IIb Helen: 4 damaged Allied ground losses: 432 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 49 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 31 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 38 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 23 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 32 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 9 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 18 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 3 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 7 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 3 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 3 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 3 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 3 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 3 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 3 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 4 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 41st Infantry Division ... Also attacking 1st (Spec) Cavalry Division ... Also attacking 40th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 27th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 33rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 10th Indian Division ... Also attacking 763rd Tank Battalion ... Also attacking 8th Indian Division ... Also attacking 19th USN Naval Construction Regiment ... Also attacking 22nd Marine Regiment ... Also attacking III Amphib Corps ... Also attacking 159th(Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking Seventh US Fleet ... Also attacking 138th(Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking 111th(Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking 29th USN Naval Construction Regiment ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 41st Infantry Division ... Also attacking 1st (Spec) Cavalry Division ... Also attacking 40th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 41st Infantry Division ... Also attacking 40th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 40th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 41st Infantry Division ... Also attacking 1st (Spec) Cavalry Division ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 41st Infantry Division ... Also attacking 40th Infantry Division ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 43rd Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 18 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 39 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 18 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 43rd Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 29 Ki-49-IIb Helen x 31 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 4 damaged Ki-49-IIb Helen: 13 damaged Allied ground losses: 137 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 24 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 29 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 16 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 4 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 4 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 3 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 4 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 2nd British Division ... Also attacking Pacific Ocean Areas ... Also attacking 17th USN Naval Construction Regiment ... Also attacking Provisionl Tank Brigade ... Also attacking 330th Construction Regiment ... Also attacking 26th USN Naval Construction Regiment ... Also attacking Fifth US Fleet ... Also attacking 43rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 2nd British Division ... Also attacking Pacific Ocean Areas ... Also attacking 43rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking Pacific Ocean Areas ... Also attacking 43rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 2nd British Division ... Also attacking Pacific Ocean Areas ... Also attacking 43rd Infantry Division ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 2nd British Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 7 Ki-49-IIb Helen x 8 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 40 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 7 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 8 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb Also attacking Americal Infantry Division ... Also attacking 2nd British Division ... Also attacking Americal Infantry Division ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 40th Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 38 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 5 damaged Allied ground losses: 72 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 29 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 9 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 24th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 40th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 24th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 40th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 24th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 40th Infantry Division ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 27th Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 94 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 12 damaged Allied ground losses: 440 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 42 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 15 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 19 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 6 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 15 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 15 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 17 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 7 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 4th Marine Division ... Also attacking 298th(Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking 20th USN Naval Construction Regiment ... Also attacking V Amphib Corps ... Also attacking 53rd (Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking 27th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 4th Marine Division ... Also attacking 20th USN Naval Construction Regiment ... Also attacking V Amphib Corps ... Also attacking 27th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 4th Marine Division ... Also attacking 298th(Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking 20th USN Naval Construction Regiment ... Also attacking V Amphib Corps ... Also attacking 53rd (Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking 27th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 4th Marine Division ... Also attacking 20th USN Naval Construction Regiment ... Also attacking V Amphib Corps ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 4th Marine Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 11 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 42 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 11 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Americal Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 9 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 21 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 9 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb in the end I bet having these 500 medium bombers on ground attack each day isn't worth it at all as they consume insane supply and the damage done to the enemy in a swamp hex isn't all that great... hopefully it is causing moral to pummel faster than without the attacks but I wouldn't bet on it... as supply stocks are reaching 7,000,000 tons within the Empire I've decided to keep bombing 24/7 though... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on V Amphib Corps, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 12 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 130 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 12 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 15th Division, at 36,26 (Poona) Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 2 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 0 minutes Allied aircraft Liberator B.III x 3 Allied aircraft losses Liberator B.III: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 24 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Liberator B.III bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 10th Indian Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 7 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 4 damaged Allied ground losses: 21 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 7 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 35,28 (near Poona) [image]local://upfiles/13774/830264F0BF5345B0B9B25748845D5548.jpg[/image] Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 5082 troops, 0 guns, 962 vehicles, Assault Value = 544 Defending force 900 troops, 0 guns, 75 vehicles, Assault Value = 1 Japanese adjusted assault: 331 Allied adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 331 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), leaders(+), supply(-) Attacker: Allied ground losses: Vehicles lost 110 (110 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units destroyed 1 my tanks engage the motorized unit on the road South of Poona and it was funny to see that the most likely armored unit turns into a fragment of 5th Indian Div that is made up of 110 trucks... Assaulting units: 11th Tank Regiment 14th Tank Regiment 12th Tank Regiment 27th Tank Regiment 23rd Tank Regiment 3rd Tank Regiment 15th Tank Regiment 9th Tank Regiment 8th Tank Regiment 4th Tank Regiment 2nd Tank Regiment 26th Tank Regiment Defending units: 5th Indian Div /2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 54,38 (near Jessore) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 100098 troops, 1056 guns, 283 vehicles, Assault Value = 3040 Defending force 302756 troops, 4257 guns, 4453 vehicles, Assault Value = 6251 Allied ground losses: 140 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 5 (2 destroyed, 3 disabled) Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled) Assaulting units: 3rd Division 21st Division 48th Division 55th Division 30th Division 38th Division 7th Division 1st RF Gun Battalion 14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 3rd Mortar Battalion 15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 5th Mortar Battalion 18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion 3rd Medium Mortar Battalion Defending units: 7th Infantry Division 637th Tank Destroyer Battalion 111th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 640th Tank Destroyer Battalion 40th Infantry Division 2nd British Division 4th Marine Division 4th USMC Tank Battalion 298th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion Provisionl Tank Brigade 6th Infantry Division 3rd Marine Division 767th Tank Battalion 25th Infantry Division Americal Infantry Division 27th Infantry Division 2/3rd Pioneer Battalion 29th British Brigade 766th Tank Battalion 43rd Infantry Division 3rd USMC Tank Battalion 22nd Marine Regiment 6th Indian Division 763rd Tank Battalion 53rd (Sep) Infantry Regiment 35th Cmbt Engineer Regiment 33rd Infantry Division 1st (Spec) Cavalry Division 10th Indian Division 50th Cmbt Engineer Regiment 762nd Tank Battalion 2nd USMC Tank Battalion 627th Tank Destroyer Battalion 24th Infantry Division 159th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 138th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 41st Infantry Division 1st USMC Tank Battalion 1st Arm Amphib Battalion 8th Indian Division 3rd Fleet Advn Base Force 369th Coast AA Regiment 4th Pioneer Battalion 848th Aviation Engineer Battalion 7th Air Advn Base Force Guides Cavalry Regiment 860th Aviation Engineer Battalion 10th Air Advn Base Force Thirteenth USAAF 330th Construction Regiment 839th Aviation Engineer Battalion 507th Coast AA Regiment 226th Field Artillery Battalion 9th Air Advn Base Force 131st Cmbt Engineer Regiment Fifth US Fleet 181st Field Artillery Battalion 3rd Pioneer Battalion 307th Base Group 21st Base Group V Amphib Corps 134th Field Artillery Battalion 873rd Aviation Engineer Battalion 33rd MAG 249th Field Artillery Battalion 352nd Construction Regiment 18th Base Group 74th Base Maint Engineer Battalion 2nd Marine Air Wing 7th USMC Field Artillery Battalion 4th Air Advn Base Force 2/593rd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion 22nd Base Group 4th Port Advn Base Force 23rd USN Special Construction Battalion 3rd Air Advn Base Force 202nd Coast AA Regiment 3rd AmphTrac Engineer Battalion 773rd AmphTrac Engineer Battalion 35th Base Maint Engineer Battalion Seventh US Fleet Pacific Ocean Areas 841st Aviation Engineer Battalion 863rd Aviation Engineer Battalion 2nd Pioneer Battalion VII US Bomber Cmnd 339th Construction Regiment 17th USN Naval Construction Regiment 2nd AmphTrac Engineer Battalion 20th USN Naval Construction Regiment 82nd Mortar Battalion 1905th Aviation Engineer Battalion 32nd MAG 15th Air Advn Base Force 168th Field Artillery Battalion 8th Base Group 26th USN Naval Construction Regiment 3/593rd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion 312th Base Group 34th MAG 1883rd Aviation Engineer Battalion 216th Coast AA Regiment 8th Air Advn Base Force 24th USN Special Construction Battalion 98th Field Artillery Battalion 511th Coast AA Regiment 19th USN Naval Construction Regiment ComAirCenPac 23rd MAG 204th Coast AA Regiment III Amphib Corps 348th Base Group 31st MAG 193rd Tank Battalion 15th Marine Defense Battalion 18th Marine Defense Battalion 214th Coast AA Regiment 27th Base Maint Engineer Battalion 52nd Base Maint Engineer Battalion ForwdAirCenPac 198th Field Artillery Battalion 12th Air Advn Base Force 58th Base Group 5th Air Advn Base Force 29th USN Naval Construction Regiment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Poona (36,26) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 44590 troops, 540 guns, 236 vehicles, Assault Value = 5680 Defending force 95039 troops, 1544 guns, 1889 vehicles, Assault Value = 2412 Japanese ground losses: 153 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled) Allied ground losses: 18 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled) Assaulting units: 66th Division 3rd Tank Division 2nd Division 56th Division 1st Tank Division 34th Division 18th Division 2nd Tank Division 10th Division 53rd Division 2nd Guards Division 15th Division 116th Division 18th Tank Regiment 17th Division 3rd South Seas Gsn 10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 2nd Mortar Battalion 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 61st Field AA Battalion 28th Army 1st Mortar Battalion 4th Mortar Battalion 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 62nd Field AA Battalion Defending units: 31st Armoured Division 11th (East African) Division 14th LRP Brigade 23rd LRP Brigade 16th LRP Brigade 16th Australian Brigade 25th Indian Division Lushai Brigade 17th Australian Brigade 50th Indian Para Brigade 26th Australian Brigade 18th Australian Brigade 72nd British Brigade 81st (West African) Division 24th Australian Brigade 5th Indian Division 122nd British AT Gun Regiment XXI Indian Corps 8th Indian Div /5 10th Indian Div /4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 55,38 (near Dacca) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 15748 troops, 123 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 2242 Defending force 5278 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3 Japanese adjusted assault: 98 Allied adjusted defense: 19 Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-) supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 42 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 113 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 16 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 4th Division 104th Division 51st Division 19th Division 28th Division 4th South Seas Det. Defending units: I US Corps XI US Corps XIV US Corps

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/18/2020 8:45:51 PM)
Here's the "West Front" showing the situation at Poona. The Allied units at Bellary are marching North now, Poona is encircled and I have an IJA "Panzerkorps" ready to engage what is coming North trying to break the siege. [image]local://upfiles/13774/391B72106D9A425C94616D8C795DB5B4.jpg[/image]

mind_messing -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/19/2020 12:46:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: castor troy Asumptions, abstractions, whatever... While I have learnt from your comments that I have no clue about ground combat, ground movement, flak, A2A and what not else I now get to learn I also don't know the stats of a P-47 or I don't know how to compare it to Georges and Franks. I wouldn't say you have no clue about the game mechanics in themselves. What seems to cause you problems is understanding that there can be more than one variable at work to generate outputs in the game. Sarcasm aside, if there was no dive advantage coded, you'd still have suffered a lopsided defeat in the air. This is due to the better deployment of the Allied airframes and the sub-optimal dispositions of the IJ CAP. quote: Ok, it's not the dive. Good, glad we managed to get there. quote: But it might be you not reading what I post: 11 fighters shot down during the P-47 dives for NO P-47 lost Seems a reasonable outcome for the situation, to be honest. quote: when the dive ended, it was equal fight. How could that be when the P-47 is oh so superior? How could it be to have a 11:0 K/D turn into a worse than 1:1 K/D for the oh so superior P-47? The dive isn't important, all that is important is trying to find an abstraction that isn't there. BETWEEN THE 11:0 AND 1:1 K/D WAS ONLY ONE DIFFERENCE, THE DIVE! Now there's where you're wrong. It absolutely isn't an equal fight after the dive bonus, for the reasons I've listed in my previous post. quote: Stats don't change during combat, all that changed was the sweeper not having the dive anymore. I've been saying it for a decade, the dive is way too powerful and your oh so praised air team lead replied at some point it is totally gaming the game to do these kind of sweeps aka strato sweeps. What are you doing? Finding an abstraction for this and that. Funny. Not. Demonstrably not the case. Re-reading this thread from 2008 may be helpful to refresh your memory (esp. comments from TheElf on page 2) - https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1879481&mpage=2&key= I see that you have commented in it, but obviously the implications didn't stick or have since been forgotten. quote: Really, I've said it before and I will repeat, this is not worth it! Not at all, it's only annoying to have a discussion that is ignoring what actually is happening. You: The dive isn't important. Everything else is important. You (castor) are not getting it at all. You (castor) have no clue. Real result in the game: The dive got the P-47 a 11:0 kill rate while it lasted, without the dive they didn't achieve even 1:1. So lets be clear, a squadron of P-47s boom-and-zooms a IJ squadron. All IJ planes are at a markedly different altitude, so need to climb to intercept and cannot mutually support each other. IJ planes are also slower than their American counterparts, therefore attaining attack positions is even more challenging. Have I misunderstood and you're surprised that it wasn't 20:0? quote: Again, not worth it, it has become totally ridicoulos and I'll just stop here. If you wanna keep it in this AAR I'll as well stop the AAR and leave you in your fantasy world of abstractions and what not. Have only found one AAR in the AAR section and I wasn't impressed at all so I wonder who is trying to teach me here. I see you made a timely edit to your original post that mentioned your previous games/opponents. I'll be blunt - I do not share your assessment of your previous and current opponents being experienced. In all fairness to Mundy, I have no doubt he is playing to the best of his ability, but experienced players would not have responded to IJ moves in the manner he has. Nor do I think that this is a fair match-up of skills - games between evenly matched opponents do not result in large IJ ground operations in India in 1944. I haven't the interest to go back to your previous AAR's, but I'd imagine that a particular trend would emerge. As for the comparative merits of your AAR versus mine, it may be worth to consider would be that I can state that my opponent was: 1. suitably "experienced" in AE as to be competitive - this being defined as having a deep understanding the mechanics of the game (rather than time served on the forum). 2. capable of formulating and executing a strategy that countered the IJ position and gave the Allies a victory. quote: I'm not impressed. You are perfectly entitled to be unimpressed. I am interested in how you arrived at at that judgement - in other words, what impresses you in AE? Is it a sub-continental invasion, or aggressive KB use, or large scale fleet actions? What metrics do you use castor? As an aside: What has more merit to you; attaining a resounding victory over an inferior opponent, or a defeat to a superior one? I know my preference. Do you?

PaxMondo -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/19/2020 12:42:06 PM)
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castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/19/2020 5:18:09 PM)
Didn't even take the time to read your post, only looked at the last three lines and I've only skimmed through that single AAR I've found and two funny highlights were found: A) A Japanese invasion of Luzon that was nearly driven back into the SEA B) Parts of KB being whiped out by a couple of light cruisers and destroyers as the carriers were moving around without any escorts [sm=00000280.gif] that's been the best read I've had for a long time You Sir, would be far better off not being such a loudmouth or not rate any players because if I would just post these two incidents on the main forum I would get a reply like "the AI totally sucks, can't handle the game" just to find out it's coming from a PBEM To my surprise (not) the AAR stopped sometime in 42? What a laugh. For your info, I didn't even care to read all that text above, it's just laughable that people claim to know how the game works but fail to play it succesfully. I'll just compare your two fails above with what Mundy has done: A) he invaded Calcutta with about 12,000 av. How many people on the forum would bet on the Japanese at Calcutta to hold the town easily with 2000av? Unlike you at Luzon he brought quite an Army and he didn't exactly know what he would face. Who wouldn't know what he faces on Luzon in early 42? Just a pro like you it seems. B) he lost his carriers too, in an engagement where he brought 800 carrier based aircraft while I brought 1100. Quite a difference to losing halve of KB to light cruisers and destroyers. When I look at it from another perspective it's more like, praise AndyMac and the AI, it does better than some loudmouths playing PBEM. What a laugh. If you wanna reply, don't bet on it if I read it and if you have another AAR with fails to read, well, I've already wasted my time skimming through your fails in 42. There's one thing I really have respect of, your balls to actually post that on the forum. And if you want to keep this nonsense going, keep it going outside of my AAR, a good idea would be to bring back your AAR and we can happily discuss what all has gone wrong and how this could happen to a guy that perfectly knows all the game. And if he doesn't, he finds an abstraction that isn't there. Must be the resurrection of that snoopy guy with his air (non) coordination guide.[&o] Swift, Miller, MrKane, JohnIII to name only four guys where I remember their nicks must have been all noobs when I've played them so I'm glad they finally get to know that. All those inexperienced guys that joined the forum nearly a decade before you. Applause.

mind_messing -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/19/2020 6:19:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: castor troy Didn't even take the time to read your post, only looked at the last three lines and I've only skimmed through that single AAR I've found and two funny highlights were found: A) A Japanese invasion of Luzon that was nearly driven back into the SEA B) Parts of KB being whiped out by a couple of light cruisers and destroyers as the carriers were moving around without any escorts [sm=00000280.gif] that's been the best read I've had for a long time For both points A & B, this was due to an effective Allied player that could accurately assess weaknesses in the IJ disposition. For point A, it was making an accurate assessment of the strength of Allied defenders on Luzon versus an overextended IJ besieging force that had been thinned to support operations elsewhere. As a wider comment, how many Allied players engage in an effective active defence on Luzon, as opposed to settling down in Clark for a siege? For point B, that was an exceptional maskirovka that played to the IJ strategy of forward deploying carriers at Luganville (as well as my own fondness for aggressive moves) that enabled surface assets to be deployed en-masse against the KB. You may have also overlooked the loss of US carriers off Japan in the months prior that fed IJ predisposition for offensive action. Both of those situations are the marks of a competent Allied player. quote: You Sir, would be far better off not being such a loudmouth or not rate any players because if I would just post these two incidents on the main forum I would get a reply like "the AI totally sucks, can't handle the game" just to find out it's coming from a PBEM I fail to be humbled by your comments. In fact, I feel comfortable to state that I've learned more from those setbacks than you have in your grand conquest of India. As a more general comment, the forum is replete of AAR's where one side performs an impressive feat. The number of those AAR's where the two opponents were fairly matched is in the single digits. quote: To my surprise (not) the AAR stopped sometime in 42? What a laugh. We're in to April of '43, the game rumbling on slowly. Sadly I don't really have the time to dedicate to an AAR worth reading, as I have the view that readers deserve something more polished than a copy/paste of the combat report. quote: For your info, I didn't even care to read all that text above, it's just laughable that people claim to know how the game works but fail to play it succesfully. Reading was evidently not your strongpoint in 2008 either. As for people who claim to know how the game works but fail to play it successfully, there's a world of difference in your success depending on who you play. quote: I'll just compare your two fails above with what Mundy has done: A) he invaded Calcutta with about 12,000 av. How many people on the forum would bet on the Japanese at Calcutta to hold the town easily with 2000av? Unlike you at Luzon he brought quite an Army and he didn't exactly know what he would face. Who wouldn't know what he faces on Luzon in early 42? Just a pro like you it seems. A fundamental mistake of strategy on the part of Mundy, and not the mark of an experienced player. Control of Calcutta has a marginal impact on the outcome of the war, geographically distant from the IJ resource centre and with large numbers of IJ troops in theatre. Far better to have dumped 12k AV into the Kuriles, Hokkaido or even an end run into Honshu. As for the tactical aspect of Calcutta, it is evident that there was limited understanding on the part of Mundy as to the extensive bonus that stems from defending UH terrain. quote: B) he lost his carriers too, in an engagement where he brought 800 carrier based aircraft while I brought 1100. Quite a difference to losing halve of KB to light cruisers and destroyers. Failing to bring overwhelming naval force to a carrier engagement as the Allies is a serious oversight and not the mark of an experienced player. If a direct clash is unavoidable, the outcome of the carrier engagement should be irrelevant to the IJ's defeat. The IJ aircraft may sink the Allied carriers, but the IJ carriers should in return be swarmed by large numbers of Allied surface warships. quote: If you wanna reply, don't bet on it if I read it and if you have another AAR with fails to read, well, I've already wasted my time skimming through your fails in 42. There's one thing I really have respect of, your balls to actually post that on the forum. And if you want to keep this nonsense going, keep it going outside of my AAR, a good idea would be to bring back your AAR and we can happily discuss what all has gone wrong and how this could happen to a guy that perfectly knows all the game. And if he doesn't, he finds an abstraction that isn't there. Must be the resurrection of that snoopy guy with his air (non) coordination guide. Out of curiosity, where do you draw your line to determine "good" play, and who gets to comment? Does one need to invade India to be "good", and so pass judgement? Must one have an AAR to brag about extensive victories over their opponent? Or is it more nuanced than that? The broader difference between you and I castor, is that my posts on the forum are not intended to be self-serving. There's a trend with you that (if you have some small ability to be introspective) might be able to detect - whenever there is an event or a combat that goes against you, it is rarely your fault. It's the game, the code, some oversight in the game design. It must be, because otherwise the explanation would be an oversight made by person inputting the orders. We couldn't have that, could we? I make no claim to know the game perfectly, just enough to be able to see deflections for what they are. I like to think that I've been fairly candid with the mistakes I've made in AE, and can correctly identify where I went wrong. I feel no need to protect my own ego by shifting blame to oversights in the code, or failures of game design. quote: Swift, Miller, MrKane, JohnIII to name only four guys where I remember their nicks must have been all noobs when I've played them so I'm glad they finally get to know that. All those inexperienced guys that joined the forum nearly a decade before you. Applause. Swift & MrKane I can't comment on. I played Miller some years back when I was fresh to AE and had a rude lesson in how much I had yet to learn. From what I've seen of JohnIII he is excellent tactically but limited in the strategic field. I also see that you've articulated the misconception that I had suspected of you all along - namely assuming that time spent on the forum equates to experience in the game. I'll clear that up for you now and state quite firmly that it doesn't.

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/21/2020 5:22:36 PM)
That text wall, not going to read it as I've hardly read parts of your earlier posts as it turns out to be wasted time. Was long enough to skim through your AAR but at least the way carrier operations were handled in the South Pacific pretty much made my day and a lot has confirmed my oppinion. In the meantime I've also received three PMs suggesting I shouldn't even answer you anymore before having the AAR stalled but this is the direction it has taken anyways as I'm already fully ignoring text walls like this. Bad luck to always find a superior player, isn't it? I do tell you one thing though as this is also something two forum members have pointed out. If you want to comment on my opponent then do it in his AAR at least as this is a restricted one and Mundy can't comment until the game ended and it pretty much stinks to comment on his inferiour skills while you handle your carriers in an AI fashion, this in the year 2019 it seems. Any other comments won't follow, just not going to read any more of your text walls trying to justify your own fails and pointing out flawed gameplay of others.

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/21/2020 5:24:54 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 22, 44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Busuanga at 77,79 Japanese Ships AK Hokuroku Maru E No.24 Allied Ships SS Spadefish duds... SS Spadefish launches 2 torpedoes at AK Hokuroku Maru Spadefish diving deep .... E No.24 fails to find sub, continues to search... E No.24 fails to find sub, continues to search... E No.24 fails to find sub, continues to search... E No.24 fails to find sub, continues to search... E No.24 fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Busuanga at 77,79 Japanese Ships AK Tokai Maru E No.24 Allied Ships SS Spadefish damn sub tries again and this time missed... spotted sub at 9/10 sitting still... SS Spadefish launches 2 torpedoes at AK Tokai Maru Spadefish diving deep .... E No.24 fails to find sub, continues to search... E No.24 fails to find sub, continues to search... E No.24 fails to find sub, continues to search... E No.24 fails to find sub, continues to search... E No.24 fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 9th Tank Regiment, at 35,28 , near Poona Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Allied aircraft Wellington GR.XIII x 14 B-24J Liberator x 5 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: Vehicles lost 9 (5 destroyed, 4 disabled) Aircraft Attacking: 12 x Wellington GR.XIII bombing from 10000 feet * Ground Attack: 3 x 250 lb GP Bomb 2 x Wellington GR.XIII bombing from 10000 feet * Ground Attack: 3 x 250 lb GP Bomb 5 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb Also attacking 26th Tank Regiment ... Also attacking 8th Tank Regiment ... Also attacking 9th Tank Regiment ... Also attacking 26th Tank Regiment ... Also attacking 9th Tank Regiment ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 15th Division, at 36,26 (Poona) Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Allied aircraft Liberator B.III x 5 Allied aircraft losses Liberator B.III: 5 damaged Japanese ground losses: 4 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled not much to fear as long as we stay in rough terrain... Aircraft Attacking: 5 x Liberator B.III bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 11th Tank Regiment, at 35,28 , near Poona Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 8 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged Aircraft Attacking: 6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 2 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 25th Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 19 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 8 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 19 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 25th Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 62 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 7 damaged Allied ground losses: 33 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 24 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 18 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 20 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 22nd Marine Regiment, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 71 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 4 damaged Allied ground losses: 47 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 20 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 19 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 20 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 12 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 1st (Spec) Cavalry Division ... Also attacking 33rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 22nd Marine Regiment ... Also attacking 1st (Spec) Cavalry Division ... Also attacking 33rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 22nd Marine Regiment ... Also attacking 1st (Spec) Cavalry Division ... Also attacking 33rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 22nd Marine Regiment ... Also attacking 1st (Spec) Cavalry Division ... Also attacking 33rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 22nd Marine Regiment ... Also attacking 1st (Spec) Cavalry Division ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 22nd Marine Regiment, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 20 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 10 damaged Allied ground losses: 11 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 20 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 33rd Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 82 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 8 damaged Allied ground losses: 121 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 34 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 15 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 17 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 15 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 20 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 15 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 138th(Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking Pacific Ocean Areas ... Also attacking 33rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 138th(Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking Pacific Ocean Areas ... Also attacking 138th(Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking Pacific Ocean Areas ... Also attacking 33rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 138th(Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking Pacific Ocean Areas ... Also attacking 33rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 138th(Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking Pacific Ocean Areas ... Also attacking 138th(Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking Pacific Ocean Areas ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 53rd (Sep) Infantry Regiment, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 11 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 12 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 11 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 53rd (Sep) Infantry Regiment, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 12 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 15 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 12 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on III Amphib Corps, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 12 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 52 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 12 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 54,38 (near Jessore) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 100073 troops, 1056 guns, 283 vehicles, Assault Value = 3036 Defending force 300892 troops, 4230 guns, 4418 vehicles, Assault Value = 6204 Allied ground losses: 120 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled) Vehicles lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled) Assaulting units: 21st Division 55th Division 38th Division 48th Division 30th Division 3rd Division 7th Division 3rd Mortar Battalion 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion 15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 5th Mortar Battalion 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 1st RF Gun Battalion 18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 3rd Medium Mortar Battalion Defending units: 767th Tank Battalion 24th Infantry Division 637th Tank Destroyer Battalion 3rd USMC Tank Battalion 40th Infantry Division 138th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 25th Infantry Division 763rd Tank Battalion 50th Cmbt Engineer Regiment 33rd Infantry Division 762nd Tank Battalion 43rd Infantry Division 35th Cmbt Engineer Regiment 29th British Brigade 4th USMC Tank Battalion Americal Infantry Division 4th Marine Division 6th Infantry Division 2nd British Division 6th Indian Division 1st USMC Tank Battalion 298th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion 2nd USMC Tank Battalion 627th Tank Destroyer Battalion 27th Infantry Division 640th Tank Destroyer Battalion 766th Tank Battalion 41st Infantry Division 53rd (Sep) Infantry Regiment 10th Indian Division 7th Infantry Division 22nd Marine Regiment 3rd Marine Division 1st (Spec) Cavalry Division 1st Arm Amphib Battalion 111th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 2/3rd Pioneer Battalion Provisionl Tank Brigade 159th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 8th Indian Division 2nd AmphTrac Engineer Battalion 4th Port Advn Base Force 8th Base Group 181st Field Artillery Battalion III Amphib Corps 216th Coast AA Regiment 58th Base Group Seventh US Fleet 193rd Tank Battalion 3rd AmphTrac Engineer Battalion 12th Air Advn Base Force 2nd Marine Air Wing 312th Base Group 33rd MAG 35th Base Maint Engineer Battalion 21st Base Group 773rd AmphTrac Engineer Battalion 249th Field Artillery Battalion 3rd Pioneer Battalion 839th Aviation Engineer Battalion ComAirCenPac 507th Coast AA Regiment 1905th Aviation Engineer Battalion V Amphib Corps 307th Base Group 32nd MAG 511th Coast AA Regiment 8th Air Advn Base Force 5th Air Advn Base Force 23rd USN Special Construction Battalion 3/593rd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion 226th Field Artillery Battalion 27th Base Maint Engineer Battalion 4th Pioneer Battalion 339th Construction Regiment 22nd Base Group Fifth US Fleet 24th USN Special Construction Battalion 348th Base Group 841st Aviation Engineer Battalion 369th Coast AA Regiment 7th USMC Field Artillery Battalion 4th Air Advn Base Force 7th Air Advn Base Force 2/593rd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion 17th USN Naval Construction Regiment 873rd Aviation Engineer Battalion 168th Field Artillery Battalion 26th USN Naval Construction Regiment ForwdAirCenPac 19th USN Naval Construction Regiment 20th USN Naval Construction Regiment 98th Field Artillery Battalion 74th Base Maint Engineer Battalion 52nd Base Maint Engineer Battalion 202nd Coast AA Regiment 9th Air Advn Base Force 204th Coast AA Regiment 31st MAG 15th Air Advn Base Force Guides Cavalry Regiment 198th Field Artillery Battalion 848th Aviation Engineer Battalion VII US Bomber Cmnd 860th Aviation Engineer Battalion 82nd Mortar Battalion 330th Construction Regiment 863rd Aviation Engineer Battalion 134th Field Artillery Battalion 214th Coast AA Regiment 2nd Pioneer Battalion 1883rd Aviation Engineer Battalion 34th MAG 131st Cmbt Engineer Regiment 10th Air Advn Base Force 3rd Air Advn Base Force 352nd Construction Regiment Pacific Ocean Areas Thirteenth USAAF 15th Marine Defense Battalion 3rd Fleet Advn Base Force 18th Base Group 23rd MAG 29th USN Naval Construction Regiment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Poona (36,26) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 2679 troops, 189 guns, 103 vehicles, Assault Value = 5663 Defending force 95496 troops, 1543 guns, 1889 vehicles, Assault Value = 2462 Japanese ground losses: Vehicles lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled) Allied ground losses: 28 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 3rd Tank Division 15th Division 66th Division 18th Division 17th Division 116th Division 2nd Division 53rd Division 2nd Tank Division 56th Division 2nd Guards Division 1st Tank Division 10th Division 34th Division 3rd South Seas Gsn 1st Mortar Battalion 10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 61st Field AA Battalion 4th Mortar Battalion 28th Army 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion 2nd Mortar Battalion 62nd Field AA Battalion Defending units: 16th LRP Brigade 72nd British Brigade 23rd LRP Brigade 16th Australian Brigade 25th Indian Division 50th Indian Para Brigade 81st (West African) Division Lushai Brigade 18th Australian Brigade 24th Australian Brigade 11th (East African) Division 26th Australian Brigade 14th LRP Brigade 31st Armoured Division 17th Australian Brigade 5th Indian Division 122nd British AT Gun Regiment 8th Indian Div /5 XXI Indian Corps 10th Indian Div /4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 55,38 (near Dacca) [image]local://upfiles/13774/3B6E79120A984C529644BD5FECDF2BFE.jpg[/image] Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 15705 troops, 123 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 2240 Defending force 5157 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3 Japanese adjusted assault: 391 Allied adjusted defense: 10 Japanese assault odds: 39 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), fatigue(-) experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Allied ground losses: 2514 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 249 destroyed, 19 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Units destroyed 1 HQ surrenders... Assaulting units: 19th Division 4th Division 104th Division 51st Division 28th Division 4th South Seas Det. Defending units: I US Corps XI US Corps XIV US Corps

mind_messing -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/21/2020 9:11:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: castor troy That text wall, not going to read it as I've hardly read parts of your earlier posts as it turns out to be wasted time. Will try to keep the sentences shorter if you find it hard to concentrate. quote: Was long enough to skim through your AAR but at least the way carrier operations were handled in the South Pacific pretty much made my day and a lot has confirmed my oppinion. Two points: 1. One example is bad statistics. 2. Game performance and game knowledge are two vastly different things. Seems you have confused the two. quote: In the meantime I've also received three PMs suggesting I shouldn't even answer you anymore before having the AAR stalled but this is the direction it has taken anyways as I'm already fully ignoring text walls like this. It's your prerogative to respond or not. Always has been, and I post in full knowledge of that. quote: Bad luck to always find a superior player, isn't it? Yes, I'm glad I ended up playing Loka - an excellent learning experience all round! quote: I do tell you one thing though as this is also something two forum members have pointed out. If you want to comment on my opponent then do it in his AAR at least as this is a restricted one and Mundy can't comment until the game ended and it pretty much stinks to comment on his inferiour skills while you handle your carriers in an AI fashion, this in the year 2019 it seems. Commenting on Mundy's AAR that he's in an unfair fight wouldn't be constructive or helpful, nor would pointing out the obvious flaws in his strategy be welcomed when he's past the point of no return. Plus, if I were to do so, Mundy might decide to throw in the towel and then you'd no doubt level the accusation that I had meddled to bring the game to a pre-mature end. Happy to have a discussion with Mundy when the game ends, but not before. quote: Any other comments won't follow, just not going to read any more of your text walls trying to justify your own fails and pointing out flawed gameplay of others. I don't feel the need to justify my failures, they're mine and I own them. They came about out of errors I made, at both the strategic and tactical levels. As much as I would like to, can't blame the game or the code for them. As for commenting on the flawed gameplay of others, does that mean we're in agreement that your recent setbacks are in fact NOT due to code issues and flaws in your gameplay? If so, glad we could get some common ground, even if it is in a roundabout way.

Alfred -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/22/2020 2:26:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: castor troy That text wall, not going to read it as I've hardly read parts of your earlier posts as it turns out to be wasted time. Was long enough to skim through your AAR but at least the way carrier operations were handled in the South Pacific pretty much made my day and a lot has confirmed my oppinion. In the meantime I've also received three PMs suggesting I shouldn't even answer you anymore before having the AAR stalled but this is the direction it has taken anyways as I'm already fully ignoring text walls like this. Bad luck to always find a superior player, isn't it? I do tell you one thing though as this is also something two forum members have pointed out. If you want to comment on my opponent then do it in his AAR at least as this is a restricted one and Mundy can't comment until the game ended and it pretty much stinks to comment on his inferiour skills while you handle your carriers in an AI fashion, this in the year 2019 it seems. Any other comments won't follow, just not going to read any more of your text walls trying to justify your own fails and pointing out flawed gameplay of others. Our first confirmed self proclaimed AE ostrich. Ostrich, the bird which avoids facing up to the oncoming steam roller by the simple action of burying its head in the sand. The avian equivalent of a human who refuses to read anything which is not fully complimentary of their own self perceived talents. Being a human ostrich goes a long way towards explaining the, although muffled by the sand, the still clearly decipherable inane comments which are regularly made. Totally disregarding the points made by the opponent in a debate guarantees ending up on the losing side of a debate. Especially when the opposite side raises logical points, the avoider comes across as having no logical counter to the opponents argument and that always automatically validates the points made by the other side. I wonder how many PMs which support mind_messing's points have been received by him. Is it less than 3 or more than 3? Most unlikely that they have suggested he run away from the debate like a frightened animal fearful of being unable to match the other side. In any case the number of received PMs he has received is irrelevant; truth is not a democracy where the majority wins. The truth is the truth even if the entire world says otherwise. Even though forced to recant by the overwhelming weight of the Roman curia, Galileo knew the truth would ultimately when he is reputed to have uttered sotto voce, "but it does revolve around the Sun". When the truth is opposed only by a human ostrich, there isn't even the possibility of a recant under duress. Of course when one refuses to read, one tends to forget all the times in this AAR when criticism of Mundy's play has been made. Rather hypocritical to lay that charge against mind_messing who is only making the truthful and objective observation that in this match, the Japanese side's success has been significantly aided by Allied mistakes. Stronger Allied play would have exploited the Japanese mistakes. Or is our ostrich claiming that Japan has made no mistakes in this match. Such a claim would be quite illogical in view of the constant wailing over Allied escapes. Then there is the issue of manners and etiquette. The green button exists for a specific purpose. If it isn't used, then it is the height of rudeness and arrogance to deliberately avoid reading mind_messing's comments. Mind you, this behaviour is consistent with the regular put down of others, LoBaron being a prominent target. Plenty of people have followed LoBaron's advice and achieved the results he said would ensue. Yet our ostrich always claims that those results are impossible to achieve. Oh well, I suppose that an ostrich which refuses to read anything which doesn't conform with his fantasy world, never learn what LoBaron said had to be done. Results which others have achieved. I'm under no illusion our ostrich will read this post. It isn't meant for him. It is intended for all the readers who are capable of logical thought, who aren't ostriches, who are capable of self reflection and critical analysis. In short, readers who are adults capable of taking responsibility for the outcomes which result from their own actions. Alfred

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/23/2020 11:51:35 AM)
Hooohooo! Google search boy chimes in too.[&o] Now if I have ignored those posts on the main forum for all those years how hard will it be to ignore it in my AAR? [sm=00000280.gif] Must be like cat pooh. It always smells and there's that guy who always has an oppinion on every topic posting his lyrics. Must have been years now when I've last asked if he already has started playing the game, not even sure if he owns it. There is one thing I truly respect mindmessing for, he actually plays the game which must be a mile ahead of Google search boy that has yet to post a single combat report of his own game AFAIK. But then, my search skills surely aren't comparable to his as I haven't found any during the minute I tried. A real dream would come true for the whole forum to see a PBEM AAR, like Google search boy in the Japanese corner and Admiral unescorted carrier group in the other. Game starts Dec 7th 1941, ending Feb 20th 1942 due to brilliant actions of either player. Perhaps I could put my name below every post so it looks more like the posts of the forum elitists. castor [sm=00000289.gif]

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/23/2020 12:01:29 PM)
instead of feeding the AAR trolls by reading or replying to their posts I've managed to do a full turn and to update the AAR so there will be more evidence of my horrible fail for the forum elitists AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 24, 44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 2nd Division, at 36,26 (Poona) Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Allied aircraft Liberator B.III x 3 Allied aircraft losses Liberator B.III: 2 damaged Liberator B.III: 1 destroyed by flak rare flak kill over Poona... Aircraft Attacking: 2 x Liberator B.III bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 11th Tank Regiment, at 35,28 , near Poona [image]local://upfiles/13774/E32CBC4AC66E44478E59FF0079C11890.jpg[/image] Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft N1K2-J George x 58 Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 13 Japanese aircraft losses N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 4 destroyed, 5 damaged B-24 attack our tanks on the road South of Poona and we have two George groups waiting for them... over the course of the day we down 17 bombers for halve the number of fighters lost (including 5 fully trained pilots)... even if we would trade Georges 1:1 for the bombers it wouldn't matter much, we've got already nearly 3000 Georges in the pool as it's going to be an airframe for the rest of the war, the only thing that really counts are the pilot losses... Aircraft Attacking: 1 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 5 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: Yokosuka Ku S-1 with N1K2-J George (30 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 30 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000. Raid is overhead 263 Ku S-2 with N1K2-J George (28 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 28 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000. Raid is overhead -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 12th Tank Regiment, at 35,28 , near Poona Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 3 minutes Japanese aircraft N1K2-J George x 20 Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 7 Japanese aircraft losses N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged Aircraft Attacking: 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: Yokosuka Ku S-1 with N1K2-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 355 minutes 263 Ku S-2 with N1K2-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 196 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 54,38 (near Jessore) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 100109 troops, 1056 guns, 283 vehicles, Assault Value = 3041 Defending force 298601 troops, 4139 guns, 4361 vehicles, Assault Value = 6169 Allied ground losses: 92 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled) Vehicles lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled) Assaulting units: 55th Division 3rd Division 48th Division 21st Division 30th Division 38th Division 7th Division 3rd Mortar Battalion 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 1st RF Gun Battalion 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 5th Mortar Battalion 15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 3rd Medium Mortar Battalion Defending units: 7th Infantry Division 6th Indian Division 2nd USMC Tank Battalion 24th Infantry Division 627th Tank Destroyer Battalion 159th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 1st USMC Tank Battalion Americal Infantry Division 53rd (Sep) Infantry Regiment 41st Infantry Division 35th Cmbt Engineer Regiment 6th Infantry Division 111th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 640th Tank Destroyer Battalion 10th Indian Division 763rd Tank Battalion 767th Tank Battalion 33rd Infantry Division 762nd Tank Battalion 29th British Brigade 110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion 50th Cmbt Engineer Regiment Provisionl Tank Brigade 2/3rd Pioneer Battalion 637th Tank Destroyer Battalion 27th Infantry Division 4th Marine Division 40th Infantry Division 3rd USMC Tank Battalion 1st (Spec) Cavalry Division 2nd British Division 1st Arm Amphib Battalion 43rd Infantry Division 25th Infantry Division 3rd Marine Division 4th USMC Tank Battalion 298th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 766th Tank Battalion 138th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 22nd Marine Regiment 8th Indian Division 352nd Construction Regiment 369th Coast AA Regiment 7th USMC Field Artillery Battalion 2nd AmphTrac Engineer Battalion 249th Field Artillery Battalion 98th Field Artillery Battalion 214th Coast AA Regiment 841st Aviation Engineer Battalion 7th Air Advn Base Force 873rd Aviation Engineer Battalion V Amphib Corps 9th Air Advn Base Force Guides Cavalry Regiment 10th Air Advn Base Force 507th Coast AA Regiment 8th Air Advn Base Force 23rd USN Special Construction Battalion 339th Construction Regiment 848th Aviation Engineer Battalion Fifth US Fleet 4th Port Advn Base Force ForwdAirCenPac 8th Base Group 74th Base Maint Engineer Battalion 3rd Fleet Advn Base Force 2nd Pioneer Battalion 31st MAG 2nd Marine Air Wing 22nd Base Group 15th Marine Defense Battalion 4th Air Advn Base Force 3rd Pioneer Battalion 773rd AmphTrac Engineer Battalion 33rd MAG VII US Bomber Cmnd ComAirCenPac III Amphib Corps 19th USN Naval Construction Regiment 34th MAG 839th Aviation Engineer Battalion 58th Base Group 204th Coast AA Regiment 35th Base Maint Engineer Battalion 312th Base Group 330th Construction Regiment 2/593rd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion 134th Field Artillery Battalion 198th Field Artillery Battalion 21st Base Group 24th USN Special Construction Battalion 1883rd Aviation Engineer Battalion 3/593rd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion 52nd Base Maint Engineer Battalion 202nd Coast AA Regiment 131st Cmbt Engineer Regiment 32nd MAG 3rd Air Advn Base Force 181st Field Artillery Battalion Seventh US Fleet Thirteenth USAAF 4th Pioneer Battalion 82nd Mortar Battalion 23rd MAG 17th USN Naval Construction Regiment 27th Base Maint Engineer Battalion 18th Base Group 15th Air Advn Base Force Pacific Ocean Areas 168th Field Artillery Battalion 5th Air Advn Base Force 216th Coast AA Regiment 1905th Aviation Engineer Battalion 26th USN Naval Construction Regiment 12th Air Advn Base Force 307th Base Group 511th Coast AA Regiment 20th USN Naval Construction Regiment 193rd Tank Battalion 860th Aviation Engineer Battalion 348th Base Group 226th Field Artillery Battalion 29th USN Naval Construction Regiment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 60,48 (near Taung Gyi) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 14336 troops, 110 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 466 Defending force 2478 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 104 Japanese adjusted assault: 431 Allied adjusted defense: 7 Japanese assault odds: 61 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 35 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 1061 casualties reported Squads: 82 destroyed, 54 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled moved in an experienced IJA division from Rangoon to finish off the BFF Brigade that popped up next to Taung Gyi... won't take long... Assaulting units: Kyuko Naval Guard Unit 22nd Division Defending units: BFF Brigade -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Poona (36,26) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 2679 troops, 189 guns, 103 vehicles, Assault Value = 5722 Defending force 96458 troops, 1543 guns, 1889 vehicles, Assault Value = 2576 Japanese ground losses: 10 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled) Allied ground losses: 55 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) Assaulting units: 2nd Tank Division 2nd Division 3rd Tank Division 1st Tank Division 10th Division 18th Division 53rd Division 17th Division 2nd Guards Division 15th Division 56th Division 116th Division 66th Division 34th Division 3rd South Seas Gsn 28th Army 1st Mortar Battalion 4th Mortar Battalion 10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion 2nd Mortar Battalion 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 23rd AA Regiment 61st Field AA Battalion 62nd Field AA Battalion Defending units: 31st Armoured Division 18th Australian Brigade Lushai Brigade 50th Indian Para Brigade 16th LRP Brigade 24th Australian Brigade 26th Australian Brigade 81st (West African) Division 5th Indian Division 72nd British Brigade 17th Australian Brigade 11th (East African) Division 16th Australian Brigade 23rd LRP Brigade 25th Indian Division 14th LRP Brigade 10th Indian Div /4 122nd British AT Gun Regiment XXI Indian Corps 8th Indian Div /5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 55,38 (near Dacca) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 15732 troops, 123 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 2243 Defending force 2803 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2 Japanese adjusted assault: 104 Allied adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 104 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), supply(-) Attacker: Allied ground losses: 2775 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 282 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Units destroyed 1 one HQ surrendered and the second one also vanished this turn, leaves only the pocket West of this hex where the main body of the encircled Allied Army is sitting... Assaulting units: 19th Division 4th Division 28th Division 104th Division 51st Division 4th South Seas Det. Defending units: I US Corps XIV US Corps

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/23/2020 12:04:59 PM)
until the Shinden the George is our best 1E bomber killer [image]local://upfiles/13774/D1978EEB4EC842CC93BF528A371050A4.jpg[/image]

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/23/2020 12:07:58 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 26, 44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 27th Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 60 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 6 damaged Allied ground losses: 108 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 20 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 24 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 16 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 27th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 27th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 27th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 27th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 41st Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 20 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 36 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 20 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 41st Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 20 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 21 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 20 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 43rd Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 40 Ki-49-IIb Helen x 20 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 8 damaged Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 111 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 20 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 20 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 20 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 4th Marine Division ... Also attacking 43rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 4th Marine Division ... Also attacking 43rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 4th Marine Division ... Also attacking 43rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 4th Marine Division ... Also attacking 43rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 4th Marine Division ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Seventh US Fleet , at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 40 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 158 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 20 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 20 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 6th Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 47 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 3 damaged Allied ground losses: 91 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 15 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 17 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 15 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 4th Marine Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 38 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 4 damaged Allied ground losses: 31 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 15 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 11 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 12 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 33rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 4th Marine Division ... Also attacking 33rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 4th Marine Division ... Also attacking 33rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 4th Marine Division ... Also attacking 33rd Infantry Division ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 159th(Sep) Infantry Regiment, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 12 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 60 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 12 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 54,38 (near Jessore) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 100082 troops, 1056 guns, 283 vehicles, Assault Value = 3040 Defending force 295151 troops, 4062 guns, 4279 vehicles, Assault Value = 6082 Allied ground losses: 116 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 13 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled) Vehicles lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled) when there's no other ground combat the victory points for losses in this hex are between 50 and 60 every turn... Assaulting units: 30th Division 38th Division 21st Division 48th Division 3rd Division 55th Division 7th Division 5th Mortar Battalion 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion 15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 1st RF Gun Battalion 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 3rd Mortar Battalion 3rd Medium Mortar Battalion Defending units: 22nd Marine Regiment 1st USMC Tank Battalion 111th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 6th Infantry Division 35th Cmbt Engineer Regiment 3rd Marine Division 53rd (Sep) Infantry Regiment 29th British Brigade 766th Tank Battalion 27th Infantry Division 2/3rd Pioneer Battalion 3rd USMC Tank Battalion 2nd USMC Tank Battalion 637th Tank Destroyer Battalion 2nd British Division 138th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion 33rd Infantry Division 762nd Tank Battalion 4th Marine Division 627th Tank Destroyer Battalion 43rd Infantry Division 763rd Tank Battalion 640th Tank Destroyer Battalion Provisionl Tank Brigade 1st Arm Amphib Battalion 24th Infantry Division 7th Infantry Division 298th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 10th Indian Division 767th Tank Battalion 4th USMC Tank Battalion 159th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 6th Indian Division 40th Infantry Division Americal Infantry Division 25th Infantry Division 50th Cmbt Engineer Regiment 41st Infantry Division 1st (Spec) Cavalry Division 8th Indian Division 198th Field Artillery Battalion 4th Air Advn Base Force 249th Field Artillery Battalion 23rd MAG 15th Air Advn Base Force 214th Coast AA Regiment 873rd Aviation Engineer Battalion 21st Base Group 168th Field Artillery Battalion 841st Aviation Engineer Battalion 131st Cmbt Engineer Regiment 31st MAG 2/593rd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion 17th USN Naval Construction Regiment 204th Coast AA Regiment 18th Base Group 22nd Base Group 20th USN Naval Construction Regiment ForwdAirCenPac 98th Field Artillery Battalion 8th Base Group 33rd MAG 24th USN Special Construction Battalion 82nd Mortar Battalion III Amphib Corps 193rd Tank Battalion 3rd Fleet Advn Base Force 74th Base Maint Engineer Battalion 26th USN Naval Construction Regiment 35th Base Maint Engineer Battalion 312th Base Group 9th Air Advn Base Force Guides Cavalry Regiment 1905th Aviation Engineer Battalion 27th Base Maint Engineer Battalion 507th Coast AA Regiment 32nd MAG 202nd Coast AA Regiment 7th Air Advn Base Force 307th Base Group 511th Coast AA Regiment 58th Base Group 7th USMC Field Artillery Battalion 4th Pioneer Battalion 34th MAG 19th USN Naval Construction Regiment 4th Port Advn Base Force 339th Construction Regiment 860th Aviation Engineer Battalion ComAirCenPac 226th Field Artillery Battalion V Amphib Corps 8th Air Advn Base Force 10th Air Advn Base Force 181st Field Artillery Battalion VII US Bomber Cmnd 15th Marine Defense Battalion 352nd Construction Regiment 2nd AmphTrac Engineer Battalion 1883rd Aviation Engineer Battalion 134th Field Artillery Battalion 330th Construction Regiment Pacific Ocean Areas 216th Coast AA Regiment 2nd Pioneer Battalion 2nd Marine Air Wing 3rd Pioneer Battalion 5th Air Advn Base Force 773rd AmphTrac Engineer Battalion 369th Coast AA Regiment Seventh US Fleet 839th Aviation Engineer Battalion Fifth US Fleet 23rd USN Special Construction Battalion 348th Base Group 12th Air Advn Base Force 52nd Base Maint Engineer Battalion 848th Aviation Engineer Battalion Thirteenth USAAF 3/593rd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion 3rd Air Advn Base Force 29th USN Naval Construction Regiment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 60,48 (near Taung Gyi) [image]local://upfiles/13774/0471C30D8C3B46E6A14C35694D46E3B5.jpg[/image] Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 14291 troops, 110 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 461 Defending force 906 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1 Japanese adjusted assault: 213 Allied adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 213 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), fatigue(-) experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Allied ground losses: 1096 casualties reported Squads: 26 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 116 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Units destroyed 1 as expected it only took a second attack by our division to finish the totally trashed and unsupplied BFF Brigade... Assaulting units: Kyuko Naval Guard Unit 22nd Division Defending units: BFF Brigade -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Poona (36,26) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 2679 troops, 189 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 5760 Defending force 96993 troops, 1541 guns, 1888 vehicles, Assault Value = 2626 Japanese ground losses: Guns lost 8 (2 destroyed, 6 disabled) Vehicles lost 11 (2 destroyed, 9 disabled) Allied ground losses: 35 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled) Assaulting units: 17th Division 56th Division 10th Division 34th Division 15th Division 53rd Division 116th Division 66th Division 2nd Division 1st Tank Division 3rd Tank Division 2nd Tank Division 18th Division 2nd Guards Division 3rd South Seas Gsn 28th Army 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 23rd AA Regiment 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 4th Mortar Battalion 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion 1st Mortar Battalion 2nd Mortar Battalion 10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 61st Field AA Battalion 62nd Field AA Battalion Defending units: 16th LRP Brigade 17th Australian Brigade 23rd LRP Brigade Lushai Brigade 81st (West African) Division 50th Indian Para Brigade 24th Australian Brigade 31st Armoured Division 72nd British Brigade 18th Australian Brigade 5th Indian Division 14th LRP Brigade 26th Australian Brigade 25th Indian Division 11th (East African) Division 16th Australian Brigade 10th Indian Div /4 122nd British AT Gun Regiment XXI Indian Corps 8th Indian Div /5

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/23/2020 1:42:59 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 01, 44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 25th Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 2 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 101 Ki-49-IIb Helen x 19 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 16 damaged Ki-49-IIb Helen: 3 damaged Allied ground losses: 118 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 23 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 20 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 23 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 23 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 13 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 3 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 3 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 3 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 3 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 3 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 3 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 40th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 27th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 24th Infantry Division ... Also attacking Fifth US Fleet ... Also attacking 6th Indian Division ... Also attacking 3rd Fleet Advn Base Force ... Also attacking 339th Construction Regiment ... Also attacking V Amphib Corps ... Also attacking 22nd Marine Regiment ... Also attacking 29th USN Naval Construction Regiment ... Also attacking 20th USN Naval Construction Regiment ... Also attacking 627th Tank Destroyer Battalion ... Also attacking 3rd Marine Division ... Also attacking 19th USN Naval Construction Regiment ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 40th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 27th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 24th Infantry Division ... Also attacking Fifth US Fleet ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 40th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 27th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 24th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 40th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 27th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 24th Infantry Division ... Also attacking Fifth US Fleet ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 40th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 27th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 24th Infantry Division ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 25th Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 60 Ki-49-IIb Helen x 6 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 14 damaged Allied ground losses: 61 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 35 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 9 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 9 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 6 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 3 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 4 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 43rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 111th(Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking 8th Air Advn Base Force ... Also attacking 3rd USMC Tank Battalion ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 43rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 111th(Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 6th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 43rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 40th Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 3 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 47 Ki-49-IIb Helen x 94 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 8 damaged Ki-49-IIb Helen: 20 damaged Allied ground losses: 128 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 20 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 9 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 9 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 9 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 16 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 19 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 20 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 23 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 16 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 29th British Brigade ... Also attacking 41st Infantry Division ... Also attacking 2nd British Division ... Also attacking Seventh US Fleet ... Also attacking 159th(Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking Americal Infantry Division ... Also attacking Pacific Ocean Areas ... Also attacking Thirteenth USAAF ... Also attacking 2nd AmphTrac Engineer Battalion ... Also attacking 138th(Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking 17th USN Naval Construction Regiment ... Also attacking 2/3rd Pioneer Battalion ... Also attacking 40th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 29th British Brigade ... Also attacking 41st Infantry Division ... Also attacking 2nd British Division ... Also attacking Seventh US Fleet ... Also attacking 159th(Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking Pacific Ocean Areas ... Also attacking 40th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 2nd British Division ... Also attacking Seventh US Fleet ... Also attacking 159th(Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking Americal Infantry Division ... Also attacking Pacific Ocean Areas ... Also attacking 40th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 29th British Brigade ... Also attacking 41st Infantry Division ... Also attacking 2nd British Division ... Also attacking Seventh US Fleet ... Also attacking 159th(Sep) Infantry Regiment ... Also attacking Pacific Ocean Areas ... Also attacking 40th Infantry Division ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 43rd Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 9 No Japanese losses Aircraft Attacking: 9 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 27th Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 2 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 20 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 9 damaged Allied ground losses: 16 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 20 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 29th British Brigade, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 9 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 2 damaged Aircraft Attacking: 9 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 24th Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 28 Ki-49-IIb Helen x 6 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 1 damaged Ki-49-IIb Helen: 3 damaged Allied ground losses: 17 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 20 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 6 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 8 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 33rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 24th Infantry Division ... Also attacking 33rd Infantry Division ... Also attacking 24th Infantry Division ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 7th Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 15 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 17 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 15 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 7th Infantry Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 11 No Japanese losses Aircraft Attacking: 11 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 2nd British Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 11 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 14 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 11 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 111th(Sep) Infantry Regiment, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 3 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 7 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 40 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 7 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Seventh US Fleet , at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 15 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 47 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 15 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Fifth US Fleet , at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 9 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 2 damaged Aircraft Attacking: 9 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 2nd Division, at 36,26 (Poona) Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Allied aircraft B-29-1 Superfort x 20 Allied aircraft losses B-29-1 Superfort: 12 damaged Superforts back in action, coming from Ceylon... lots got damaged by flak, not a single one lost... Japanese ground losses: 27 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb Also attacking 53rd Division ... Also attacking 2nd Guards Division ... Also attacking 2nd Division ... Also attacking 53rd Division ... Also attacking 2nd Guards Division ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 2nd Division, at 36,26 (Poona) Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 25 minutes Allied aircraft B-29-1 Superfort x 16 Allied aircraft losses B-29-1 Superfort: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 21 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 4 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb Also attacking 10th Division ... Also attacking 2nd Division ... Also attacking 10th Division ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 15th Division, at 36,26 (Poona) Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Allied aircraft B-29-1 Superfort x 6 Allied aircraft losses B-29-1 Superfort: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 9 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 15th Division, at 36,26 (Poona) Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 62 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 19 minutes Allied aircraft B-29-1 Superfort x 7 Allied aircraft losses B-29-1 Superfort: 4 damaged Japanese ground losses: 30 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 34th Division, at 36,26 (Poona) Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 22 minutes Allied aircraft B-29-1 Superfort x 13 Allied aircraft losses B-29-1 Superfort: 6 damaged Japanese ground losses: 47 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 18th Division, at 36,26 (Poona) Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 22 minutes Allied aircraft B-29-1 Superfort x 14 Allied aircraft losses B-29-1 Superfort: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 31 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 53rd Division, at 36,26 (Poona) Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Allied aircraft B-29-1 Superfort x 7 Allied aircraft losses B-29-1 Superfort: 2 damaged the beasts drop more bombs than all my medium bombers in India alltogether... Japanese ground losses: 9 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 6th Indian Division, at 54,38 , near Jessore Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 7 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 4 damaged Allied ground losses: 7 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 7 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Poona (36,26) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 2679 troops, 189 guns, 98 vehicles, Assault Value = 4718 Defending force 97620 troops, 1532 guns, 1888 vehicles, Assault Value = 2701 Japanese ground losses: 10 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 12 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 4 (3 destroyed, 1 disabled) the B-29 won't change the tide here though, the enemy needs a serious amount of troops to free these trapped units... Assaulting units: 17th Division 56th Division 10th Division 66th Division 53rd Division 2nd Guards Division 18th Division 34th Division 2nd Division 116th Division 15th Division 3rd South Seas Gsn 23rd AA Regiment 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 28th Army 1st Mortar Battalion 61st Field AA Battalion 2nd Mortar Battalion 4th Mortar Battalion 62nd Field AA Battalion Defending units: 18th Australian Brigade 16th Australian Brigade 5th Indian Division Lushai Brigade 16th LRP Brigade 23rd LRP Brigade 24th Australian Brigade 81st (West African) Division 17th Australian Brigade 14th LRP Brigade 11th (East African) Division 31st Armoured Division 25th Indian Division 26th Australian Brigade 50th Indian Para Brigade 72nd British Brigade 10th Indian Div /4 XXI Indian Corps 122nd British AT Gun Regiment 8th Indian Div /5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Poona (36,26) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 90990 troops, 1528 guns, 1614 vehicles, Assault Value = 2701 Defending force 158784 troops, 1480 guns, 579 vehicles, Assault Value = 4718 Japanese ground losses: 51 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Allied ground losses: 169 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled[8\|] Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled the own bombardment is always more damaging to yourself than the same enemy units bombarding... ever been that way, also working perfectly according to the forum elitists... Assaulting units: 23rd LRP Brigade 14th LRP Brigade Lushai Brigade 16th Australian Brigade 72nd British Brigade 11th (East African) Division 24th Australian Brigade 16th LRP Brigade 81st (West African) Division 5th Indian Division 31st Armoured Division 18th Australian Brigade 50th Indian Para Brigade 25th Indian Division 17th Australian Brigade 26th Australian Brigade 10th Indian Div /4 122nd British AT Gun Regiment XXI Indian Corps 8th Indian Div /5 Defending units: 15th Division 116th Division 66th Division 18th Division 17th Division 56th Division 10th Division 53rd Division 34th Division 2nd Division 2nd Guards Division 3rd South Seas Gsn 4th Mortar Battalion 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 28th Army 1st Mortar Battalion 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 2nd Mortar Battalion 10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 61st Field AA Battalion 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion 23rd AA Regiment 62nd Field AA Battalion

mind_messing -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/23/2020 3:34:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: castor troy Hooohooo! Google search boy chimes in too.[&o] Now if I have ignored those posts on the main forum for all those years how hard will it be to ignore it in my AAR? [sm=00000280.gif] Must be like cat pooh. It always smells and there's that guy who always has an oppinion on every topic posting his lyrics. Must have been years now when I've last asked if he already has started playing the game, not even sure if he owns it. There is one thing I truly respect mindmessing for, he actually plays the game which must be a mile ahead of Google search boy that has yet to post a single combat report of his own game AFAIK. But then, my search skills surely aren't comparable to his as I haven't found any during the minute I tried. A real dream would come true for the whole forum to see a PBEM AAR, like Google search boy in the Japanese corner and Admiral unescorted carrier group in the other. Game starts Dec 7th 1941, ending Feb 20th 1942 due to brilliant actions of either player. Perhaps I could put my name below every post so it looks more like the posts of the forum elitists. castor [sm=00000289.gif] A few comments in response. 1. Attempting to disparage Alfred's knowledge of the game mechanics is laughable. It serves to only highlight your own insecurities around your lack of game knowledge. 2. Again, you confuse game knowledge with game performance. The two are quite different. This point shouldn't need explanation, but happy to provide it if you find it hard to comprehend. 3. I agree that you're search skills aren't comparable. This is likely something you should focus on in future, as it will help you to develop your insights into what generates the outcomes you see in game. I think you'd agree that being able to distinguish between a code issue and an intended outcome would be helpful. Even more so seeing as your particular copy of AE seems to have an exceptionally large number of non-replicable code issues [:)] 4. Can I ask you to clarify what you mean by forum elitist? Seems a curious turn of phrase.

PaxMondo -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/24/2020 10:51:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: castor troy Hooohooo! Google search boy chimes in too.[&o] Now if I have ignored those posts on the main forum for all those years how hard will it be to ignore it in my AAR? [sm=00000280.gif] Must be like cat pooh. It always smells and there's that guy who always has an oppinion on every topic posting his lyrics. Must have been years now when I've last asked if he already has started playing the game, not even sure if he owns it. There is one thing I truly respect mindmessing for, he actually plays the game which must be a mile ahead of Google search boy that has yet to post a single combat report of his own game AFAIK. But then, my search skills surely aren't comparable to his as I haven't found any during the minute I tried. A real dream would come true for the whole forum to see a PBEM AAR, like Google search boy in the Japanese corner and Admiral unescorted carrier group in the other. Game starts Dec 7th 1941, ending Feb 20th 1942 due to brilliant actions of either player. Perhaps I could put my name below every post so it looks more like the posts of the forum elitists. castor [sm=00000289.gif] [sm=00000613.gif]

PaxMondo -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/24/2020 10:52:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mind_messing quote: ORIGINAL: castor troy Hooohooo! Google search boy chimes in too.[&o] Now if I have ignored those posts on the main forum for all those years how hard will it be to ignore it in my AAR? [sm=00000280.gif] Must be like cat pooh. It always smells and there's that guy who always has an oppinion on every topic posting his lyrics. Must have been years now when I've last asked if he already has started playing the game, not even sure if he owns it. There is one thing I truly respect mindmessing for, he actually plays the game which must be a mile ahead of Google search boy that has yet to post a single combat report of his own game AFAIK. But then, my search skills surely aren't comparable to his as I haven't found any during the minute I tried. A real dream would come true for the whole forum to see a PBEM AAR, like Google search boy in the Japanese corner and Admiral unescorted carrier group in the other. Game starts Dec 7th 1941, ending Feb 20th 1942 due to brilliant actions of either player. Perhaps I could put my name below every post so it looks more like the posts of the forum elitists. castor [sm=00000289.gif] A few comments in response. 1. Attempting to disparage Alfred's knowledge of the game mechanics is laughable. It serves to only highlight your own insecurities around your lack of game knowledge. 2. Again, you confuse game knowledge with game performance. The two are quite different. This point shouldn't need explanation, but happy to provide it if you find it hard to comprehend. 3. I agree that you're search skills aren't comparable. This is likely something you should focus on in future, as it will help you to develop your insights into what generates the outcomes you see in game. I think you'd agree that being able to distinguish between a code issue and an intended outcome would be helpful. Even more so seeing as your particular copy of AE seems to have an exceptionally large number of non-replicable code issues [:)] 4. Can I ask you to clarify what you mean by forum elitist? Seems a curious turn of phrase. [sm=00000613.gif]

PaxMondo -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/24/2020 11:17:03 AM)
This is what I have missed ... rantin' Castor at his best. Dang guy, welcome back.

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/24/2020 11:59:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PaxMondo This is what I have missed ... rantin' Castor at his best. Dang guy, welcome back. One thing I have to dissapoint you though is that I'm not going to reply those guys that try to prove... I don't know what as I've stopped reading their posts. Those of Google search boy pretty much when he claimed the (non) air coordination guide is a good way to get coordinated strikes (which perfectly shows that using Google search and playing the game is quite a difference - must have been ten years ago I guess) and Admiral unescorted carrier group's posts when I realized how skilled he was which must perfectly enable him to rate the skills of other players, that apparently haven't lost their IJ game in mid 42 already. Perfectly knowing how to do stuff and not being able to do is also something I have to wonder about. But hey, let them do their posts, if someone has a laugh then they have served a purpose in this AAR. I guess reading a book about fishing enables the reader to teach the fisher how to fish, at least that's how it comes around. In the meantime we keep seeing AARs that make it into 42 and end there for whatever reason. Again, one of them at least plays the game, the other got an oppinion on everything on this world and copy pastes his lyrics into every thread on the forum, pretty strange disorder.

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/24/2020 12:09:46 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 04, 44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 132 encounters mine field at Diamond Harbour (52,38) Japanese Ships AMc Mogami Maru AMc Tamazono Maru 5 mines cleared enemy keeps laying mines with his subs but I have no convoys going to Calcutta anymore so the threat is minimal... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Poona (36,26) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 2673 troops, 189 guns, 99 vehicles, Assault Value = 4737 Defending force 97825 troops, 1528 guns, 1887 vehicles, Assault Value = 2717 Japanese ground losses: Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled) Vehicles lost 6 (3 destroyed, 3 disabled) Allied ground losses: 37 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 116th Division 15th Division 34th Division 2nd Guards Division 56th Division 66th Division 53rd Division 18th Division 17th Division 10th Division 2nd Division 3rd South Seas Gsn 4th Mortar Battalion 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 1st Mortar Battalion 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 23rd AA Regiment 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion 28th Army 2nd Mortar Battalion 10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 61st Field AA Battalion 62nd Field AA Battalion Defending units: 24th Australian Brigade 25th Indian Division 14th LRP Brigade 72nd British Brigade 16th LRP Brigade 16th Australian Brigade 50th Indian Para Brigade 11th (East African) Division 17th Australian Brigade Lushai Brigade 31st Armoured Division 26th Australian Brigade 5th Indian Division 81st (West African) Division 23rd LRP Brigade 18th Australian Brigade 10th Indian Div /4 122nd British AT Gun Regiment XXI Indian Corps 8th Indian Div /5 first group of IJAAF fighters upgraded to Frank -r, the most advanced IJAAF fighter until the Ki-94 comes around in 45... [image]local://upfiles/13774/D76DAF325C814A3EAD48291CDC7D1ABB.jpg[/image]

PaxMondo -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/24/2020 12:45:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: castor troy quote: ORIGINAL: PaxMondo This is what I have missed ... rantin' Castor at his best. Dang guy, welcome back. One thing I have to dissapoint you though is that I'm not going to reply those guys that try to prove... I don't know what as I've stopped reading their posts. Those of Google search boy pretty much when he claimed the (non) air coordination guide is a good way to get coordinated strikes (which perfectly shows that using Google search and playing the game is quite a difference - must have been ten years ago I guess) and Admiral unescorted carrier group's posts when I realized how skilled he was which must perfectly enable him to rate the skills of other players, that apparently haven't lost their IJ game in mid 42 already. Perfectly knowing how to do stuff and not being able to do is also something I have to wonder about. But hey, let them do their posts, if someone has a laugh then they have served a purpose in this AAR. I guess reading a book about fishing enables the reader to teach the fisher how to fish, at least that's how it comes around. In the meantime we keep seeing AARs that make it into 42 and end there for whatever reason. Again, one of them at least plays the game, the other got an oppinion on everything on this world and copy pastes his lyrics into every thread on the forum, pretty strange disorder. Castor, you miss understand. No disappointment on my side. What I love about you being back is that you stir the pot. Good or bad is a perspective, but you question things and force me to think things through. sometimes I agree with you, sometimes not. no big deal. You are clearly a good player, this game just supports that opinion. I really enjoy your AAR's and I hope that you keep playing and making AAR's for as long as I am around to read them. [sm=00000436.gif] Having said all of that, you do burn bridges and I suspect that Alfred won't be posting in your AAR's any more. That's unfortunate as he does possess a lot of insight into how the game works and when the NDA doesn't preclude it, will share some of that insight. Doesn't negate your AAR, so I look forward to the next installment.

szmike -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/24/2020 2:10:04 PM)
while AAR is not boring with all the rants and replies, and Allied player getting himself trashed, I have to wonder whether troll feeding is a way to keep the forum alive

mind_messing -> RE: AAR 1944 (10/24/2020 2:40:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: castor troy quote: ORIGINAL: PaxMondo This is what I have missed ... rantin' Castor at his best. Dang guy, welcome back. One thing I have to dissapoint you though is that I'm not going to reply those guys that try to prove... I don't know what as I've stopped reading their posts. Those of Google search boy pretty much when he claimed the (non) air coordination guide is a good way to get coordinated strikes (which perfectly shows that using Google search and playing the game is quite a difference - must have been ten years ago I guess) and Admiral unescorted carrier group's posts when I realized how skilled he was which must perfectly enable him to rate the skills of other players, that apparently haven't lost their IJ game in mid 42 already. Perfectly knowing how to do stuff and not being able to do is also something I have to wonder about. But hey, let them do their posts, if someone has a laugh then they have served a purpose in this AAR. I guess reading a book about fishing enables the reader to teach the fisher how to fish, at least that's how it comes around. In the meantime we keep seeing AARs that make it into 42 and end there for whatever reason. Again, one of them at least plays the game, the other got an oppinion on everything on this world and copy pastes his lyrics into every thread on the forum, pretty strange disorder. 1. That's a bold claim regarding the air co-ordination guide. Have you, you know, any evidence that it's wrong? 2. On the topic of Google searches, I still think you need to do a search of "game knowledge" and "game performance" and understand the difference. 3. There's a wider point about game performance being related to the quality of your opponent, but lets make sure you can understand #2 before we start down that road. 4. In perhaps to harness your professed knowledge productively, why don't you provide the forum with "Castor Troy's Air Co-ordination guide"? Evidently this would be a fantastic development for the community as you seem to have a grasp of everything wrong with the current documentation. quote: ORIGINAL: PaxMondo Having said all of that, you do burn bridges and I suspect that Alfred won't be posting in your AAR's any more. That's unfortunate as he does possess a lot of insight into how the game works and when the NDA doesn't preclude it, will share some of that insight. Likely an intended outcome. We couldn't have someone challenging Castor's assertions, could we? And absolutely not someone with access to more information on game mechanics than Castor. No, that wouldn't do at all - Castor might be proved wrong, and we can't have that on his own AAR! [:'(] quote: ORIGINAL: szmike while AAR is not boring with all the rants and replies, and Allied player getting himself trashed, I have to wonder whether troll feeding is a way to keep the forum alive Consider this a principled stand in defence of knowledge and empirical evidence over baseless assertions. Castor needs the challenge as he's far too fond of making assertions that X is wrong without actually backing it up with evidence. Layered CAP, for example. To Castor, it doesn't work. Broken. Pointless. Despite evidence to the contrary. What you're seeing at this point are pretty much textbook psychological defence mechanisms - denial (I am right and everyone else is wrong) - passive-aggressive language (Alfred doesn't post AAR's and mind_messing loses battles, so they have no right to an opinion) - delusion (the "forum elite" are out to drag Castor down) One would expect to see more mature emotional responses for someone in their mid-40's, and especially so for a game that involves a great deal of logical thought, but you can't have everything I suppose.

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