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BrianG -> 50 mostly mud (12/14/2019 1:57:57 PM)

weather remains poor. Only Euro zone is clear

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BrianG -> 50 mostly mud (12/14/2019 1:59:06 PM)

Russian open north area. many air attacks

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BrianG -> 50 mostly mud (12/14/2019 1:59:55 PM)

Rostov open

Here some good defensive AA

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BrianG -> 50 air kia and (12/14/2019 2:01:14 PM)

air kia


and Russian plane casualty detail

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BrianG -> 50 clear in Crimea (12/14/2019 2:03:47 PM)

Again I somehow lack enough engineers for this losing attack.

Rough terrain makes it a challenge to take.

fort drops below 5X

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Telemecus -> RE: 50 air kia and (12/14/2019 4:17:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BrianG
air kia
and Russian plane casualty detail


I would start to get worried about the German losses. The overall numbers of losses of each side does not tell you how the air war is going. The key number the Germans need to look at is how many single-engine fighters you are losing. Last turn you lost over a hundred of them, and I am guessing you lost over 200 German single engine fighters this turn. Keep going with that and the German air force will be in crisis in a few turns. By contrast if you lost a 200 recon or 200 level bombers you could say that is par for the course. Once you have no effective fighter arm anymore how many bombers or any other type of aircraft you have will be irrelevant.

Both the last two air losses screens I would call big Soviet wins.



BrianG -> RE: 50 air kia and (12/14/2019 7:41:01 PM)

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Both the last two air losses screens I would call big Soviet wins.



Bitburg has just started working on air base attacks. Plus I am being a little more active in attacking some of his. especially down south.

I have good number in pool.

I will watch.



BrianG -> 51 damm russian mud (12/15/2019 11:52:57 PM)

Is this rr cut correct.

It's a fully garrisoned city?

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BrianG -> June turn 51 damm russian mud (12/15/2019 11:54:17 PM)

Air kia report.

again heavy air action attacking air bases.

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BrianG -> June turn 51 damm russian mud (12/15/2019 11:57:46 PM)

The Crimea remains clear.

and defended.

Fort now below 4X. I AM USING THAT BIG HEAVY mortor

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BrianG -> June turn 51 german moves (12/15/2019 11:59:27 PM)

The far north is clear. Ground good.

North Moscow. Very heavy air commitment. The noose tightens

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BrianG -> RE: June turn 51 german moves (12/16/2019 12:02:17 AM)

I then lineup for a big attack. this could really open up the back side of Moscow and I mean now.

Alas the Russian again put up a fierce defense.

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BrianG -> June turn 51 german moves (12/16/2019 12:06:34 AM)

south Moscow attacks.

over 1700 German tubes

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BrianG -> June turn 51 german moves (12/16/2019 12:07:09 AM)

My attention then turned south. The prior turn I had cleared a hex on the north side of the Don.

Seeing a weak counter, I launch major encirclement operation on the north side of the Don.

Here is my attack to make a clear 3 wide crossing of the Don


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BrianG -> June turn 51 german moves (12/16/2019 12:09:50 AM)

I then attack the other river crossing near the Sveboda bend.

You can see mid turn my breakthru tanks.

Russian cav and armor is way in the rear leaving middle wide open to roam.

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BrianG -> June turn 51 final (12/16/2019 12:15:24 AM)

Here is the final Boguchar cut off position.

The pocket looks secure.

My thinking, in not splitting the forward armor, was that Russians really need to retreat after this new pocket.

The pocket has no high value targets.



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BrianG -> RE: June turn 51 final (12/16/2019 12:16:26 AM)

Final Big V.

North side of the pocket

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BrianG -> RE: June turn 51 final (12/16/2019 12:17:01 AM)

Final Stalingrad area

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BrianG -> June turn 51 air (12/16/2019 12:17:56 AM)

air kia just for German turn

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Telemecus -> RE: June turn 51 damm russian mud (12/16/2019 1:39:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BrianG
Fort now below 4X. I AM USING THAT BIG HEAVY mortor

Withdraws in 7 turns though ...
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BrianG -> t52 june 11 42 (12/18/2019 2:07:16 AM)

Weather is horrid across the vast steppes.

Only the Euro zone remains clear.

2 more brutal frontal assaults are heaped upon Sebastopol.

2 more Russian wins. If these mountain units survive I think they will be guards soon.

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BrianG -> t52 june 11 42 (12/18/2019 2:12:16 AM)

And in a surprise, Bitburg refuses to retreat. Instead he launches his well rested cav and newly formed armor corp and drive deep behind German lead tanks. The pocket holds but now 3 German units are cut off.

panzer, ss mech and regular mech.

Very dangerous move for him. as well unexpected and not what I had hopped for. ( I was looking for a nice tidy retreat)

And now also a weekly cliff hanger for the cut off Germans.



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BrianG -> t52 june 11 42 (12/18/2019 2:15:55 AM)

I counter in the mud and am forced into maneuver behind lines so that I take up the empty hexes.

I feed in supply to trapped units which look ok as to supply having been well rested prior to the breakthru turn.

My rr to Boguthar is blocked by Russian zoc or not complete via the south to north route.

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BrianG -> t52 june 11 42 weather forecast (12/18/2019 2:20:54 AM)

Finally, after 11 straight mud turns, the south soviet zone is expecting CLEAR weather.

The rest of Russia and Europe will again be in mud.

If clear, my south soviet offensive, anchored near Rostov, will begin.



xhoel -> RE: t52 june 11 42 weather forecast (12/18/2019 9:23:00 AM)

Dangerous development in the Boguchar sector. I am guessing next turn will be mud again there so those units will remain isolated but safe from being destroyed? Can any of those trapped unit be destroyed before you get a chance to launch a relieve operation and is there an operation being planned? Your supply in the north should be pretty bad considering the river crossing and all those ZOCs+mud.



BrianG -> RE: t52 june 11 42 weather forecast (12/18/2019 11:09:28 AM)

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Dangerous development in the Boguchar sector. I am guessing next turn will be mud again there so those units will remain isolated but safe from being destroyed? Can any of those trapped unit be destroyed before you get a chance to launch a relieve operation and is there an operation being planned? Your supply in the north should be pretty bad considering the river crossing and all those ZOCs+mud.


nice to have a little suspense.

Early reports come in of massive desperate attacks on the German trapped units (mud).at the back end of turn 52.
And now confirmed: blues skis, solid ground in south soviet zone for turn 53.



xhoel -> RE: t52 june 11 42 weather forecast (12/18/2019 11:40:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BrianG

Early reports come in of massive desperate attacks on the German trapped units (mud).at the back end of turn 52.
And now confirmed: blues skis, solid ground in south soviet zone for turn 53.


How were the losses? That basically means you can extract those units on turn 53. Would be interesting to see their TOE and morale after being isolated for 2 turns, especially of the Panzer Division.



chaos45 -> RE: t52 june 11 42 weather forecast (12/18/2019 1:05:30 PM)

ya that aggressive soviet move could just be feeding some of those tank/cav corps into additional pockets depending on how things work out...and panzer divs even pockets in mud are hard to break without infantry corps or massive amount of soviet infantry divs/units to get the unseen quality of quantity bonus on the attack lol.



BrianG -> t53 open action (12/22/2019 11:56:49 PM)

Mud

Russians launch heavy attacks against 2 of the 3 surrounded German armor/mech divisions

The 4th panzer divisions hold. 4:1 odds.

The attack was preceded by 2 successful Russian bomber attacks.

The ss mech is just bombed.

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BrianG -> t53 open action (12/23/2019 12:01:13 AM)

The attack on the 25th mech division almost succeeds.

2 ground attacks were launched.

I bring in tank reinforcements for next turn relief.

And in air supply, I do one very large drop. I think the most tons I ever dropped on one hex. approx. 250 tons. For me it was noticeable and 4th panzer became fully supplied: perfect to fight off more mud attacks.

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