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I've barely followed this story until today. Looks grim. Did the governor have options or were his hands basically tied? Did the severity of the outbreak leave him no good choices?

I don't know much about Cuomo, but I'd assume any governor is trying to do his best under difficult circumstances.

My best guess is to say it never really reached Cuomo, a decision was made down the line probably to save money as nursing homes cost less than hospitals.

You probably could count on one hand the state administered nursing homes that could safely handle positive covid patients.

Harry S Truman had a sign on his desk "The buck stops here" and maybe some people need to remember that.

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It is an increasing trend to try and distill your messaging into key words and phrases to enhance reach.

More recently, the winner has to be reducing complex international negotiations and legislation down to three words: "Get Brexit Done"

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Harry S Truman had a sign on his desk "The buck stops here" and maybe some people need to remember that.

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It is an increasing trend to try and distill your messaging into key words and phrases to enhance reach.

More recently, the winner has to be reducing complex international negotiations and legislation down to three words: "Get Brexit Done"

warspite1

Well the referendum took place in June 2016. In December 2019 there was still endless debate and argument about leaving, remaining, type of Brexit, Referendum 2 (The Sequel), blah blah blah blah

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So the message put out was vote for me and we'll "Get Brexit Done".

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Whereas the message emanating from the other corner was.... "it's been over 3 years since the people of the United Kingdom voted to leave the EU. Since then there has been nothing but argument, counter-argument, chaos and confusion. Vote for me and...I'll allow that wholly unsatisfactory state of affairs to continue for another interminable length of time because I either don't have the mental capacity to make a decision I believe is right, or because I do know what I think is right but will make me lose the election if I make that clear (but don't have the foggiest understanding that not making my position clear will have the same result anyway)."

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Right or wrong, distilling your message into a few key words and phrases can be a sensible course of action...

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It is an increasing trend to try and distill your messaging into key words and phrases to enhance reach.

More recently, the winner has to be reducing complex international negotiations and legislation down to three words: "Get Brexit Done"

warspite1

Well the referendum took place in June 2016. In December 2019 there was still endless debate and argument about leaving, remaining, type of Brexit, Referendum 2 (The Sequel), blah blah blah blah

So the message put out was vote for me and we'll "Get Brexit Done".

Whereas the message emanating from the other corner was.... "it's been over 3 years since the people of the United Kingdom voted to leave the EU. Since then there has been nothing but argument, counter-argument, chaos and confusion. Vote for me and...I'll allow that wholly unsatisfactory state of affairs to continue for another interminable length of time because I either don't have the mental capacity to make a decision I believe is right, or because I do know what I think is right but will make me lose the election if I make that clear (but don't have the foggiest understanding that not making my position clear will have the same result anyway)."

Right or wrong, distilling your message into a few key words and phrases can be a sensible course of action...[;)]

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Right or wrong, distilling your message into a few key words and phrases can be a sensible course of action...

Sensible for whom?

There are some that would say that it is a gross over-simplification of what is an exceptionally complex issue, with ramifications for the entire country.

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It is an increasing trend to try and distill your messaging into key words and phrases to enhance reach.

More recently, the winner has to be reducing complex international negotiations and legislation down to three words: "Get Brexit Done"

warspite1

Well the referendum took place in June 2016. In December 2019 there was still endless debate and argument about leaving, remaining, type of Brexit, Referendum 2 (The Sequel), blah blah blah blah

Rightly so. What type of Brexit did the majority vote for?

BINO? No deal? Something in-between?

Worth remembering that no deal Brexit was touted as a complete fantasy by the pro-Brexit camp, when in reality it was only major concessions from the UK that avoided it.

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So the message put out was vote for me and we'll "Get Brexit Done".

Perhaps a more accurate version would have been "Brexit at any cost".

See, for example, the situation with the Irish border. Something that was promised in 2016 that would not happen.

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Whereas the message emanating from the other corner was.... "it's been over 3 years since the people of the United Kingdom voted to leave the EU. Since then there has been nothing but argument, counter-argument, chaos and confusion. Vote for me and...I'll allow that wholly unsatisfactory state of affairs to continue for another interminable length of time because I either don't have the mental capacity to make a decision I believe is right, or because I do know what I think is right but will make me lose the election if I make that clear (but don't have the foggiest understanding that not making my position clear will have the same result anyway)."

That may be your opinion, but a more consultative approach on Brexit may be have been more sensible given the:

- divisive nature of the topic
- stark regional differences in voting and ramifications for the devolved governments (thinking of NI more than Scotland)
- lack of an agreed single vision of Brexit.

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Right or wrong, distilling your message into a few key words and phrases can be a sensible course of action...

Sensible for whom?

There are some that would say that it is a gross over-simplification of what is an exceptionally complex issue, with ramifications for the entire country.

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Right or wrong, distilling your message into a few key words and phrases can be a sensible course of action...

Sensible for whom?

There are some that would say that it is a gross over-simplification of what is an exceptionally complex issue, with ramifications for the entire country.

It's a sensible way to sell your platform. People want simple.

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So I can't understand Hans' absolutism because I try to see the truth but have to admit that there are usually things I can't quite figure out in most stories without making a judgement about the character of the actors.

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The important point is to see both sides

Correction: The important point is the see the correct side.

You have to understand both sides to see where they're coming from. Right or wrong side, understanding both sides is more important than the correct side. Sometimes there isn't a correct side... you ever have kids...?

You misunderstood my point.

Once you have SEEN both sides what is IMPORTANT is discerning which one is CORRECT, ie....seeing the correct side.

There is ALWAYS a correct side (yes, I am one of those crazies who believes in an absolute reality).

Often we just can't see through the grey fog to discern it.

I am sorry, but that isn't always true.

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I've barely followed this story until today. Looks grim. Did the governor have options or were his hands basically tied? Did the severity of the outbreak leave him no good choices?

I don't know much about Cuomo, but I'd assume any governor is trying to do his best under difficult circumstances.

My best guess is to say it never really reached Cuomo, a decision was made down the line probably to save money as nursing homes cost less than hospitals.

You probably could count on one hand the state administered nursing homes that could safely handle positive covid patients.

Harry S Truman had a sign on his desk "The buck stops here" and maybe some people need to remember that.

warspite1

I think that is very unfair. To blame a dead ex-President for the problems with New York nursing homes is wrong and I'm sure Mr Truman didn't mean to imply he would take responsibility for that......

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I've barely followed this story until today. Looks grim. Did the governor have options or were his hands basically tied? Did the severity of the outbreak leave him no good choices?

I don't know much about Cuomo, but I'd assume any governor is trying to do his best under difficult circumstances.

My best guess is to say it never really reached Cuomo, a decision was made down the line probably to save money as nursing homes cost less than hospitals.

You probably could count on one hand the state administered nursing homes that could safely handle positive covid patients.

Harry S Truman had a sign on his desk "The buck stops here" and maybe some people need to remember that.

warspite1

I think that is very unfair. To blame a dead ex-President for the problems with New York nursing homes is wrong and I'm sure Mr Truman didn't mean to imply he would take responsibility for that......

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For those of you who are history freaks, you know that President Harry S. Truman had a sign on his desk that read: “The Buck Stops Here.” It meant he accepted accountability for all the decisions of his administration. Truman’s stand exists in organizations today but, unfortunately, as the exception rather than the rule.

In Brandon Hall Group’s 2014 State of Performance Management Survey, 34% of global organizations said that executives do not hold leaders accountable for performance. In our 2014 State of Talent Management Survey, results showed that 39% plan to increase or significantly increase their focus next year on holding managers accountable.

Without accountability, even the most brilliant, hard-working, well-intentioned leaders fail – they fail to meet their performance goals, they fail to develop their teams, they fail to hire top talent, they fail to coach their employees, they fail to communicate clearly, they fail to optimize performance, and they fail the business overall. Effective leadership requires real accountability.

What Is Accountability?

When leaders take personal accountability, they are willing to answer for the outcomes of their choices, their behaviors, and their actions in all situations in which they are involved. Accountable leaders do not blame others when things go topsy-turvy. Rather, they make things right – they are fixers. Accountable leaders build an accurate understanding of their organization – where it excels and where it has opportunity. Accountable leaders step up to champion opportunities to succeed. Accountable leaders question the decisions and processes that shape your organization. They ask questions and they find answers – the best answers.

Accountability goes beyond individual actions and decisions. Accountable leaders assume ownership for the performance of their teams – just like Truman assumed accountability for the performance of his administration.

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Coronavirus and Other Causes Driving Surge in US Deaths
April 30, 2020

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/04/30/health/ap-us-med-virus-outbreak-us-deaths.html


"NEW YORK — The U.S. has seen at least 66,000 more deaths than usual so far this year, according to government data, and the new coronavirus accounts for much — but not all — of the increase.

Usually the nation sees about 1 million deaths by the end of April, meaning the rise is in the neighborhood of 7%. "


"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which posted the data this week, found the new coronavirus was reported as a cause in about half the excess deaths. It’s likely the virus was a factor in many other deaths too, said Robert Anderson, who oversees the CDC’s death statistics work."


"Medical examiners say drug overdoses, falls and certain types of accidents around the house may be up. Experts also believe at least some of the excess deaths may have been people with heart problems or other conditions who decided not to go to a hospital because of concerns they were filled with coronavirus-infected people."

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Coronavirus and Other Causes Driving Surge in US Deaths
April 30, 2020

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/04/30/health/ap-us-med-virus-outbreak-us-deaths.html


"NEW YORK — The U.S. has seen at least 66,000 more deaths than usual so far this year, according to government data, and the new coronavirus accounts for much — but not all — of the increase.

Usually the nation sees about 1 million deaths by the end of April, meaning the rise is in the neighborhood of 7%. "


"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which posted the data this week, found the new coronavirus was reported as a cause in about half the excess deaths. It’s likely the virus was a factor in many other deaths too, said Robert Anderson, who oversees the CDC’s death statistics work."


"Medical examiners say drug overdoses, falls and certain types of accidents around the house may be up. Experts also believe at least some of the excess deaths may have been people with heart problems or other conditions who decided not to go to a hospital because of concerns they were filled with coronavirus-infected people."

Paywall. I was interested to see where this data comes from, as the CDC data I have seen at their website and posted here is the opposite.

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Coronavirus and Other Causes Driving Surge in US Deaths
April 30, 2020

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/04/30/health/ap-us-med-virus-outbreak-us-deaths.html


"NEW YORK — The U.S. has seen at least 66,000 more deaths than usual so far this year, according to government data, and the new coronavirus accounts for much — but not all — of the increase.

Usually the nation sees about 1 million deaths by the end of April, meaning the rise is in the neighborhood of 7%. "


"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which posted the data this week, found the new coronavirus was reported as a cause in about half the excess deaths. It’s likely the virus was a factor in many other deaths too, said Robert Anderson, who oversees the CDC’s death statistics work."


"Medical examiners say drug overdoses, falls and certain types of accidents around the house may be up. Experts also believe at least some of the excess deaths may have been people with heart problems or other conditions who decided not to go to a hospital because of concerns they were filled with coronavirus-infected people."

Paywall. I was interested to see where this data comes from, as the CDC data I have seen at their website and posted here is the opposite.

I did't pay. I believe if you signup for their daily news briefing you can view their articles.

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“To reinvent themselves as a naval expeditionary force within budget limits, the Marines plan to get rid of all of their tanks, cut back on their aircraft and shrink in total numbers from 189,000 to as few as 170,000, Gen. Berger said. “I have come to the conclusion that we need to contract the size of the Marine Corps to get quality,” he said.”

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The idea is that in a war with China, America’s hulking aircraft carriers might be pushed far out to sea by the threat of missiles. But small groups of 50 to 150 Marines, wielding armed drones, rockets and anti-ship missiles, could get up close, fanning out on islands along and inside the chain from Japan to the Philippines. Like a high-tech echo of the insurgents they once fought, they would jump from one makeshift base to another every couple of days to avoid being spotted and targeted, says General Berger. They could feed targeting information back to more distant ships and warplanes, or pepper the Chinese fleet with fire themselves—a form of dispersed, island-hopping warfare designed to stop a Chinese attack in its tracks.

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New York and California are infamous for having the most aggressive out of state audits.


Cuomo: Out-of-State Health Care Workers Who Came to New York to Help Now Subject to NY State Income Tax



https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/05/cuomo-health-care-workers-who-volunteered-to-help-with-covid-19-must-pay-state-income-tax/

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It's not only the "Coronavirus Navy"

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“To reinvent themselves as a naval expeditionary force within budget limits, the Marines plan to get rid of all of their tanks, cut back on their aircraft and shrink in total numbers from 189,000 to as few as 170,000, Gen. Berger said. “I have come to the conclusion that we need to contract the size of the Marine Corps to get quality,” he said.”

https://defense.info/re-thinking-strategy/2020/05/the-usmc-commandants-china-bet-reactions-and-key-questions/

Now stratgy wise...

Hmmmmmmmmmm?!!

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The idea is that in a war with China, America’s hulking aircraft carriers might be pushed far out to sea by the threat of missiles. But small groups of 50 to 150 Marines, wielding armed drones, rockets and anti-ship missiles, could get up close, fanning out on islands along and inside the chain from Japan to the Philippines. Like a high-tech echo of the insurgents they once fought, they would jump from one makeshift base to another every couple of days to avoid being spotted and targeted, says General Berger. They could feed targeting information back to more distant ships and warplanes, or pepper the Chinese fleet with fire themselves—a form of dispersed, island-hopping warfare designed to stop a Chinese attack in its tracks.

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they would jump from one makeshift base to another every couple of days to avoid being spotted and targeted,

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But small groups of 50 to 150 Marines

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This is the New York state order for Nursing Homes to accept covid positive patients. March 25. It is for all Nursing Homes, not just the state administered ones like I previously thought.



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