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Lowpe -> Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (Spoilers)) (4/28/2020 2:26:28 PM)

Fifth Carrier Division opens up the war with an aerial attack on Pearl Harbor...

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RangerJoe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI) (4/28/2020 2:37:40 PM)

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Lowpe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI) (4/28/2020 2:44:56 PM)

Singapore Front,critical for Japan achieving early war goals...

Task Force Z eludes 2 Carrier Divisions, but the landings go off succesfully.

Britain surges several destroyer squadrons north of Singapore...nasty buggers packing lots of 40mm Bofors.

And then there is the unexpected Thunder Child![:D] The British we fear have violated our naval treaties![:D]

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Lowpe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI) (4/28/2020 2:50:04 PM)

The Imperial Japanese Navy is starting to have second thoughts about starting this war...can it end well when the British are so much more powerful and technologically advanced than our spies led us to believe?



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Lowpe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI) (4/28/2020 2:59:36 PM)

Northern Luzon will be taken, hopefully, and provide air bases for search and sweeps. Minimal commitment here as troops are tasked with taking Singers as the highest priority.

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Lowpe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI) (4/28/2020 3:02:11 PM)

IJNAF will lower their sweeping SOPs, based on the analysis of Allied patrol heights.

Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 44

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 7
P-35A x 5
P-40B Warhawk x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 4 destroyed
P-35A: 1 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
24th PG/17th PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
35th PG/21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
6th PS PAAC with P-26A (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
35th PG/34th PS with P-35A (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 62 minutes
24th PG/Hq Sqn with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes



Lowpe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI) (4/28/2020 3:04:18 PM)

Butcher's Bill:



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Lowpe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI) (4/28/2020 3:05:29 PM)

Davey Jone's Locker:

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Lovejoy -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI) (4/28/2020 4:40:59 PM)

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GetAssista -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI) (4/28/2020 5:37:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe
The Imperial Japanese Navy is starting to have second thoughts about starting this war...can it end well when the British are so much more powerful and technologically advanced than our spies led us to believe?

You might get https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JDS_Mirai though, who knows [:D]



PaxMondo -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI) (4/28/2020 11:58:52 PM)

Good start! You're on VH to balance it out, right?

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Lowpe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI) (4/29/2020 12:15:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Good start! You're on VH to balance it out, right?

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I started a thread in the war room to get ideas for playing a very friendly AI game, i.e. not exploiting it, keep the game interesting for as long as possible.

I was planning on rotating difficulty during the perimeter expansion phase (for sieges), but I am currently on vh. I might lower it for a siege to establish the perimeter and slow down China's growing strength. Not sure here. I am hazy on all the benefits the AI gets, I know the common advantages, but there are others which combined with 1945 equipment which might simply prove overwhelming.

So no resizing of air squadrons, no shipping fuel in xak, no baiting the air force, no AI breaking invasions, no more than 2 CV in a task force, keep armor and artillery and planes in Manchuko, very limited base building in conquered bases (almost none in the Pacific for the first year), no destruction of China.

If you don't concentrate your carriers, all of a sudden that size 2 runway on an island becomes really important.

I toyed with a Mersing Option, but decided not to do it. The name of the game here is cautious, covered advances to get the SRA established.

Betties and Nells are searching, Sallies are pretty much training, until I can achieve regional air superiority. Carrier Divisions are supporting invasions, trying to stay out of strike range of nasty Allied bases.

Finally, I have never played Tier 3 before...so a lot of this is absolutely new to me.[:)]



Lowpe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (Spoilers)) (4/29/2020 12:40:54 AM)

Plane R&D

Number of size 30 factories. 5 are on Rufe, 1 starts on A6m3...other than that limited to 5 per line. No late late game r&d.

Oscar 3
Tojo 4
Frank 5
Tony 5
Nick A 5
Randy B 4

Zero 6
Sam 5
George 3
Jack 2

Frances 3
Peggy 6
Peggy T 2

Judy 5
Jill 5
Grace 2



CaptBeefheart -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (Spoilers)) (4/29/2020 2:08:11 AM)

Very interesting. I haven't played the Japanese side against the AI since Pacific War. I pulled the plug after taking Oz. I take it you'll be going for a more historical expansion?

Cheers,
CB



Lowpe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (Spoilers)) (4/29/2020 2:14:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: CaptBeefheart

Very interesting. I haven't played the Japanese side against the AI since Pacific War. I pulled the plug after taking Oz. I take it you'll be going for a more historical expansion?

Cheers,
CB


Less than historical expansion I hope.



PaxMondo -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI) (4/29/2020 3:17:44 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe


quote:

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Good start! You're on VH to balance it out, right?

[sm=00000613.gif]


I started a thread in the war room to get ideas for playing a very friendly AI game, i.e. not exploiting it, keep the game interesting for as long as possible.

I was planning on rotating difficulty during the perimeter expansion phase (for sieges), but I am currently on vh. I might lower it for a siege to establish the perimeter and slow down China's growing strength. Not sure here. I am hazy on all the benefits the AI gets, I know the common advantages, but there are others which combined with 1945 equipment which might simply prove overwhelming.

So no resizing of air squadrons, no shipping fuel in xak, no baiting the air force, no AI breaking invasions, no more than 2 CV in a task force, keep armor and artillery and planes in Manchuko, very limited base building in conquered bases (almost none in the Pacific for the first year), no destruction of China.

If you don't concentrate your carriers, all of a sudden that size 2 runway on an island becomes really important.

I toyed with a Mersing Option, but decided not to do it. The name of the game here is cautious, covered advances to get the SRA established.

Betties and Nells are searching, Sallies are pretty much training, until I can achieve regional air superiority. Carrier Divisions are supporting invasions, trying to stay out of strike range of nasty Allied bases.

Finally, I have never played Tier 3 before...so a lot of this is absolutely new to me.[:)]


Just remember that the Fighting advantage at VH just cover having HQ's in range and good commanders and unit prep. It isn't overkill. So, as a good PBEM player, you should be at VH all the time.

That's really what the attack bonus deals with as there just wasn't enough time to get HQ's really into the AI scripts nor anyway at all to handle prep other than initial prep in the scenario file.

So, the devs had to add in an attack bonus to even things out. So at normal or hard settings, a player has huge advantages in combat. VH, the AI closes that gap, but if you are prepped with HQ's you still dominate easily even on VH.



Lowpe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI) (4/29/2020 3:25:58 AM)

Dec 8th, 1942

Midnight, off Laoag, northern Luzon...to the call the Surcouf and I am guessing here, her sister ship?, submarines is to do them injustice. They carry twin 203mm/50 Modele Guns..., but they are outgunned by the 20cm/50 3YT-II Guns on the Maya and instead attack while submerged.

No sooner than the Zeroes arrive, to protect both the paratroopers and the stricken Maya at Laoag, than the roar of approaching planes is heard by all...the American's sortie in force in a dawn air raid...

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PaxMondo -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI) (4/29/2020 3:47:16 AM)

I posted in your war room thread a few items you may wish to peruse.



Lowpe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI) (4/29/2020 1:01:59 PM)

With dawn comes light rain, a dozen Zeroes flying long range CAP, but a lot of Banshees that are yet another nasty surprise.



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Lowpe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI) (4/29/2020 1:12:08 PM)

Situation map...

The decision is to delay the invasion fleet for another day, improve our ASW, get some night time naval search up, and hopefully inflict some damage on the American air forces present...plus find out what exactly is that SAG north of Laoag.

Meanwhile the Maya will stand down and try to pump out the counter flooding while the Ashigara will work on emergency repairs.



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An airborne Jake from the Ashigara also landed at Batan Island...



RangerJoe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI) (4/29/2020 1:25:06 PM)

I would call the Surcouf a submersible cruiser. Think of her on the surface in battle with an under escorted tanker convoy . . .

I guess that my next game I will try VH.

Another way to play would be to do the expansion AND build up the bases. Then switch sides . . .



Lowpe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (Spoilers)) (4/29/2020 2:57:27 PM)

Malaya Front

With ammunition running low, the SAGs will retire to Cam Ranh Bay, Carrier Division 1 & 2 will attempt strikes along the north eastern coast line above Singers.

Miri invasion is very high risk as there is no naval search around North Borneo at all and No air protection. Should the KB move to cover this invasion first and then move back to Malaya and let ground bases Nells and Betties cover eastern Malaya? Perhaps.



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Lowpe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (Spoilers)) (4/29/2020 3:06:49 PM)

Manado...a sweet forward airbase, but can it be taken? There was intelligence for lots of unaccounted American shipping in the area, plus Dutch.

Carrier Division 3 will be re-organized today in a cohesive task force, rather than split out among the different task forces as pictured here. It is a weak Carrier Division comprised of one light carrier and seaplane carriers.

We desperately need better search in this area.

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Lowpe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (Spoilers)) (4/29/2020 3:45:43 PM)

The Makin invasion is unloading supplies and and the Tarawa invasion is set for tomorrow...but this Allied fleet can't bode well for operations.

24 Claude Fighters are at Kwaj, protecting a lot of shipping.



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Lowpe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (Spoilers)) (4/29/2020 3:48:30 PM)

A look at the naval pilot training program. Not many pilots in training...

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traskott -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (Spoilers)) (4/29/2020 4:14:52 PM)

Suscribed!!

Oooh boy! You are gonna have a tough time!!



apbarog -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (Spoilers)) (4/29/2020 4:41:02 PM)

Looking forward to seeing how your war plays out.



Lowpe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (Spoilers)) (4/29/2020 5:17:31 PM)

December 10th, 1942

Enemy Carrier in the Marshall Islands, but the Wake Island invasion goes off perfectly! That is the planned expansion in the Central Pacific.[:)] Tarawa, south of Makin, is taken too.

The coastal defense guns at Wake Island did a good job on several warships, inflicting close to 20 system points on three or four.





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Lowpe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (Spoilers)) (4/29/2020 5:30:32 PM)

American SAG spotted, and we have 2 heavy cruisers out of action already....small task force of 2 PG near Laoag, our destroyer squadron at Laoag didn't react.



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Lowpe -> RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (Spoilers)) (4/29/2020 5:36:23 PM)

Going ahead with the very risky Manado invasion, especially with the spotting of the large American SAG at Luzon. Could be the first major mistake of the war...or should I hold off and get Mavis established at Morotai?

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