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vinnie71 -> Fighter escort - what's happening? (8/9/2020 10:11:40 AM)

Playing as the Allies and still in the initial stages of the game, I'm still finding it next to impossible to send fighter escorts with bombers. It doesn't matter if they are land based or carrier based - bombers just fly alone.

Is there some way to 'force' fighters to escort the poor bombers?



Trugrit -> RE: Fighter escort - what's happening? (8/9/2020 10:54:51 AM)


Read This:

LoBaron:
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2382494

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Ian R -> RE: Fighter escort - what's happening? (8/9/2020 11:36:29 AM)

1. Same altitude.

2. Same base or carrier.

3. keep strike packages within coordination limits.

4. See point 1.

Edit - Alfred has also says that the exe does check HQ affiliations more often than we may suspect, so ... same HQ - and be in range of it.



vinnie71 -> RE: Fighter escort - what's happening? (8/9/2020 12:53:24 PM)

Thanks guys! Honestly its the first time that I came across this issue in the 10 years of playing this game on and off.



Ian R -> RE: Fighter escort - what's happening? (8/10/2020 11:30:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: vinnie71

Thanks guys! Honestly its the first time that I came across this issue in the 10 years of playing this game on and off.


Also, if the fighter base is closer to target than the bombers, apparently that can be of advantage if you must use aircraft from different bases.



Sardaukar -> RE: Fighter escort - what's happening? (8/10/2020 12:48:42 PM)

Altitude I have not found to be a big problem.

Unless it's a lot different with groups.




BBfanboy -> RE: Fighter escort - what's happening? (8/10/2020 4:52:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Altitude I have not found to be a big problem.

Unless it's a lot different with groups.



The fighters need to have a cruise speed close to that of the bombers, IIRC.



Ian R -> RE: Fighter escort - what's happening? (8/10/2020 6:59:31 PM)

Has the cruise speed one been "proven"?



Ambassador -> RE: Fighter escort - what's happening? (8/10/2020 11:01:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Ian R

Has the cruise speed one been "proven"?

It's in the Air Mission Coordination guide, at least.



rustysi -> RE: Fighter escort - what's happening? (8/11/2020 12:54:25 AM)

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Altitude I have not found to be a big problem.


Me neither, as long as the delta is not too large.



castor troy -> RE: Fighter escort - what's happening? (8/11/2020 4:37:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Ambassador


quote:

ORIGINAL: Ian R

Has the cruise speed one been "proven"?

It's in the Air Mission Coordination guide, at least.


and pretty much the most was proven wrong when it was tested and discussed up and down years ago when this "guide" showed up, done by a guy without much experience on the game. No idea why this seems to have become gospel over the years it seems.



Lowpe -> RE: Fighter escort - what's happening? (8/11/2020 4:48:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Altitude I have not found to be a big problem.

Unless it's a lot different with groups.



The fighters need to have a cruise speed close to that of the bombers, IIRC.


You can pick the cruise speed and about 2 out of 3 times engineer an attack with the vaunted sweep ahead phenomena with some more micromanagement. But that is probably a little off topic and more advanced play.





Ian R -> RE: Fighter escort - what's happening? (8/13/2020 9:55:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe


quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Altitude I have not found to be a big problem.

Unless it's a lot different with groups.



The fighters need to have a cruise speed close to that of the bombers, IIRC.


You can pick the cruise speed and about 2 out of 3 times engineer an attack with the vaunted sweep ahead phenomena with some more micromanagement. But that is probably a little off topic and more advanced play.





Does Alfred agree about that?



Alfred -> RE: Fighter escort - what's happening? (8/13/2020 10:33:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Ian R


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe


quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Altitude I have not found to be a big problem.

Unless it's a lot different with groups.



The fighters need to have a cruise speed close to that of the bombers, IIRC.


You can pick the cruise speed and about 2 out of 3 times engineer an attack with the vaunted sweep ahead phenomena with some more micromanagement. But that is probably a little off topic and more advanced play.





Does Alfred agree about that?


Speaking as the poor mans version of theElf or michaelm75au[:)].

Aircraft speed is a factor in determining whether a sweep goes in ahead, or behind, a bomber only raid. Needless to say there are several other relevant factors taken into account in determining the arrival order of enemy raids.

Alfred



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