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Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/12/2020 12:23:04 PM)
Ceylon surprise [image]local://upfiles/44178/BC0C2FD3652340629B4070C84A167D54.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/12/2020 12:29:27 PM)
Afternoon raid... [image]local://upfiles/44178/0B10CE1C2D6D4566A0F64587F39D9B9A.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/12/2020 12:32:29 PM)
Mersing [image]local://upfiles/44178/B28C50F7961A46D5A2AC3887A4154E91.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/12/2020 12:35:30 PM)
Good attack in China. [image]local://upfiles/44178/0ED394534AED4251A1D8D1578C6C02EA.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/12/2020 12:37:39 PM)
I accidentally left an engineer unit on deliberate attack...the odds of the attack were 1-11, but we knocked forts down a level...so it all is good. [image]local://upfiles/44178/54A56C1CC22143418CD65A04FA01F740.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/12/2020 12:40:36 PM)
Clearing the road to Sian... [image]local://upfiles/44178/8D5F43EF2892433EB91E04E272358E6D.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/12/2020 12:55:12 PM)
Race for Rabaul… I suspect the American Carriers will use mission speed today, since only one small task force of two ships is spotted and that with only a 2/2 dl. I believe those carriers used a flank speed run this day...they can't have that much left in them, and if they use another flank speed run, they will certainly be in very dangerous fuel situation...which means that there must be ships coming up from Oz or NZ to refuel them... Akagi is on her way, but she is six hexes above Ulithi and going to be refueled today. That sounds far away, but it is 34 hexes to Rabaul...only one hex further than the American Carriers. [image]local://upfiles/44178/D7DB387E7388481795F9D6586BCC2C89.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/12/2020 12:58:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe Not sure what caused the Nishimi Maru to sink off Guam, which was invaded, as well as Hollandia, Miri conquered and the rail line to Shanghai cleared all the way to Manchuko… Nishimi Maru likely hit rocks during the landings. Usually if it is a mine or collision you get more notification of the event. I am watching the replays pretty closely, and normally there is a screen popup for those situations. Didn't see one. In my game against Jocke I lost like four good Yusen to grounding -- one or two in Alaska.

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/12/2020 1:01:23 PM)
Losses reported for the day... Manchuko garrison at 8545 today. [image]local://upfiles/44178/3C4ABF0C9A8D4EEDBB3D80025036CE61.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/12/2020 1:08:53 PM)
Where is Hermes and Exeter and their friends? [image]local://upfiles/44178/FA0C6EA1A72B4A798F877D517A516E0D.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/12/2020 1:10:07 PM)
Any questions, comments let me know...off to do NJP's turn.

BBfanboy -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/12/2020 1:17:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe I wish I understood the mechanics of avoiding and escaping from naval combat better... [image]local://upfiles/44178/38AE2998C7EE4C47865D95CAB8DAB160.jpg[/image] No definitive answer, but I suspect weather and the quality of the TF captains play into the algorithm, along with a very lucky die roll! Looks like Bittern provided a smokescreen too.

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/12/2020 1:23:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe I wish I understood the mechanics of avoiding and escaping from naval combat better... No definitive answer, but I suspect weather and the quality of the TF captains play into the algorithm, along with a very lucky die roll! Looks like Bittern provided a smokescreen too. Escort mode is certainly the best from my anecdotal experience...but the rest I guess is DL. This task force was almost immediately reengaged and sunk. BTW, there is 700 AV at Colombo using the rule of 30.[X(]

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/12/2020 1:26:58 PM)
One last post...this is the Chinese Corp that just suffered 500+ squads destroyed, it is still listed at 21,480 troops! Always thought there was a fair bit of FOW in ground battle reports, and of course there can be lag in intel reports. [image]local://upfiles/44178/299E2330CEDB417DBF62B4A352891B87.jpg[/image]

Alfred -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/12/2020 1:34:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe I wish I understood the mechanics of avoiding and escaping from naval combat better... No definitive answer, but I suspect weather and the quality of the TF captains play into the algorithm, along with a very lucky die roll! Looks like Bittern provided a smokescreen too. Escort mode is certainly the best from my anecdotal experience...but the rest I guess is DL. This task force was almost immediately reengaged and sunk. BTW, there is 700 AV at Colombo using the rule of 30.[X(] Read my post in this thread https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4722966&mpage=1&key=? for the factors taken into account for a TF to attempt to evade combat. As you can see it is very much under the hood stuff. Alfred

RangerJoe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/12/2020 4:05:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alfred quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe I wish I understood the mechanics of avoiding and escaping from naval combat better... No definitive answer, but I suspect weather and the quality of the TF captains play into the algorithm, along with a very lucky die roll! Looks like Bittern provided a smokescreen too. Escort mode is certainly the best from my anecdotal experience...but the rest I guess is DL. This task force was almost immediately reengaged and sunk. BTW, there is 700 AV at Colombo using the rule of 30.[X(] Read my post in this thread https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4722966&mpage=1&key=? for the factors taken into account for a TF to attempt to evade combat. As you can see it is very much under the hood stuff. Alfred Thank you Alfred but there is another possibility that Lowpe would have to check on: Did the combat move to the next hex? I have seen running fights like that where a TF evades combat only to have the other TF react and combat begins anew. Sometimes even surprising the TF that is had just been in combat with. I don't know of any discussion on this but it does seem plausible to me.

BBfanboy -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/13/2020 2:07:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe quote: ORIGINAL: Alfred quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe I wish I understood the mechanics of avoiding and escaping from naval combat better... No definitive answer, but I suspect weather and the quality of the TF captains play into the algorithm, along with a very lucky die roll! Looks like Bittern provided a smokescreen too. Escort mode is certainly the best from my anecdotal experience...but the rest I guess is DL. This task force was almost immediately reengaged and sunk. BTW, there is 700 AV at Colombo using the rule of 30.[X(] Read my post in this thread https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4722966&mpage=1&key=? for the factors taken into account for a TF to attempt to evade combat. As you can see it is very much under the hood stuff. Alfred Thank you Alfred but there is another possibility that Lowpe would have to check on: Did the combat move to the next hex? I have seen running fights like that where a TF evades combat only to have the other TF react and combat begins anew. Sometimes even surprising the TF that is had just been in combat with. I don't know of any discussion on this but it does seem plausible to me. I just had a US SCTF react three times in the same turn to the same enemy TF, engaging for significant shooting by both sides followed by the IJ disengaging and moving a hex away. The US TF had FPs on naval search both day and night for a radius of 3 night and 5 day. After the third engagement the US TF was out of ammo and only a couple of damaged IJ DDs remained afloat - CVL Ryujo and four other DDs bought the farm. Then the air phase started and the Lexington TF finished off the DDs with a few bombs.

RangerJoe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/13/2020 2:43:35 AM)
So the CVL and four DDs retired and became farmers? [X(] Interesting . . .

BBfanboy -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/13/2020 3:54:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe So the CVL and four DDs retired and became farmers? [X(] Interesting . . . That would be Davy Jones' farm ...

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/13/2020 12:44:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe Did the combat move to the next hex? Two running combats that fit that narrative... Night Time Surface Combat, near Iwo-jima at 101,82, Range 12,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Mutsu TB Sagi Allied Ships AM Tanager, Shell hits 3, on fire Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 35% moonlight: 12,000 yards CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 12,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 12,000 yards Range closes to 8,000 yards BB Mutsu engages AM Tanager at 8,000 yards TB Sagi engages AM Tanager at 8,000 yards Range closes to 5,000 yards Range increases to 6,000 yards Range increases to 8,000 yards BB Mutsu engages AM Tanager at 8,000 yards Range increases to 10,000 yards BB Mutsu engages AM Tanager at 10,000 yards TB Sagi engages AM Tanager at 10,000 yards BB Mutsu engages AM Tanager at 10,000 yards TB Sagi engages AM Tanager at 10,000 yards Allied Task Force Manages to Escape Task forces break off... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Iwo-jima at 102,82, Range 10,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Mutsu TB Sagi Allied Ships AM Tanager, on fire Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 35% moonlight: 12,000 yards Range closes to 11,000 yards... Range closes to 10,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 10,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 10,000 yards AM Tanager engages TB Sagi at 10,000 yards Kogure, Gunji* orders Japanese TF to disengage Range closes to 9,000 yards AM Tanager engages TB Sagi at 9,000 yards AM Tanager engages TB Sagi at 9,000 yards Task forces break off... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Daito Shoto at 94,79, Range 10,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Ashigara CL Natori CL Kuma DD Satsuki DD Minazuki DD Nagatsuki DD Harukaze DD Hatakaze Allied Ships AM Bittern, Shell hits 2, on fire xAK Yu Sang Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 35% moonlight: 12,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 9,000 yards Allied TF attempts to evade combat Range increases to 10,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 10,000 yards CA Ashigara engages AM Bittern at 10,000 yards CL Kuma engages AM Bittern at 10,000 yards DD Minazuki engages AM Bittern at 10,000 yards Allied Task Force Manages to Escape Task forces break off... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Daito Shoto at 95,79, Range 12,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Ashigara CL Natori CL Kuma DD Satsuki DD Minazuki DD Nagatsuki DD Harukaze DD Hatakaze Allied Ships AM Bittern, Shell hits 3, and is sunk xAK Yu Sang, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 35% moonlight: 12,000 yards CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 12,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 12,000 yards Range closes to 11,000 yards CA Ashigara engages AM Bittern at 11,000 yards DD Minazuki engages xAK Yu Sang at 11,000 yards Range closes to 8,000 yards CA Ashigara engages AM Bittern at 8,000 yards CL Kuma engages AM Bittern at 8,000 yards DD Hatakaze engages xAK Yu Sang at 8,000 yards DD Nagatsuki engages xAK Yu Sang at 8,000 yards Range closes to 5,000 yards CA Ashigara engages AM Bittern at 5,000 yards CL Kuma engages AM Bittern at 5,000 yards DD Hatakaze engages xAK Yu Sang at 5,000 yards xAK Yu Sang sunk by DD Nagatsuki at 5,000 yards xAK Yu Sang sunk by DD Nagatsuki at 5,000 yards Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...

RangerJoe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/13/2020 5:15:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe So the CVL and four DDs retired and became farmers? [X(] Interesting . . . That would be Davy Jones' farm ... You mean that they went to Davy Jones' locker. The expression "bought the farm" comes from soldiers who, when they retired from the military, actually bought a farm and became farmers. But what do I know, I did not join the Air Force of any country . . .

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/17/2020 1:41:59 PM)
I suspect the Allies will make moves here early at some point...with Lexington and Enterprise rushing to the defense of Rabaul, there will probably be plenty of time to get defenses ready here. I am not sure what I am going to do in the Aleutians. It is a good place to fight the USN early...but so it Rabaul. I pretty much am thinking a historical expansion everywhere but China and India....although nothing is written in stone. [image]local://upfiles/44178/6AFE88C9FB9D453C99468A12B454BB62.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/17/2020 2:02:39 PM)
I did the math a long time ago, but I will probably have 70+ single ship cargo task forces, Adens and other large capacity xaks, running from Hokkaido to Honshu. Games always seem to go wonky for me, and getting the resources back to Honshu early is always a priority. I can't be bothered calculating task force tonnage with port size and min maxing...just screen off the shipping routes with ASW air and naval and accept the occasional loss to subs. Just now really getting going... 11 ships unloading at Ominato presently. Will also route them into Hirosaki too. [image]local://upfiles/44178/30410AC40BC349C88ACAF8AFBF2C5C78.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/21/2020 5:07:25 PM)
Dec 13th, 1941 [image]local://upfiles/44178/02D7499F96DA42DF9EDB38F6B128E541.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/21/2020 5:10:53 PM)
It is a slug fest at close range, very briefly at Rabaul...but all our torpedoes miss. [image]local://upfiles/44178/6185E7FFB5C342BBAC55543E3C38281A.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/21/2020 5:14:35 PM)
Round two and both light cruisers take some hits...we got to force these Allied ships out of Rabaul for the invasion later today. [image]local://upfiles/44178/4A44E084371344A0A93507B98BB812B5.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/21/2020 5:20:15 PM)
Daytime comes and the enemy ships are still at Rabaul. Task Force Tenryu, which arrives to patrol Rabaul, actually "moves to protect" the invasion force which is also in the hex... Will the invasion go off. Canberra didn't fire much...Perth had some shells left and hit at 22k on the final rounds of the fight. [image]local://upfiles/44178/CFF4AEBF4D074E0987A55F0FA07715C8.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/21/2020 5:25:37 PM)
Not sure how many times I have seen that pop up message. [image]local://upfiles/44178/0ED1BF37A96B45B7BC0707C1B3A4A333.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/21/2020 5:27:07 PM)
The Aussies run low on ammo...and are overwhelmed as the Tenryu manages to close to 2k yards and finally land some torpedoes. [image]local://upfiles/44178/53D0FDE27DBC42DD85A9DD6BB8D288B3.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: Ooops, I did it again (Lowpe (J) vs ?(A) (10/21/2020 5:33:06 PM)
800kg SAP hit... [image]local://upfiles/44178/BAF98294C42F42B19495C45C368FE57D.jpg[/image]

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