RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game)

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toenailthehun -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/7/2022 8:06:33 AM)
Place the Malaysian partisan on the Rubber Resource in the Jungle please

Orm -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/7/2022 8:49:27 AM)
Newsflash: Partisans stop critical rubber production in Malaya. [image]local://upfiles/29130/B2A42B3A8DC74956A85ADC3F49C06A48.jpg[/image]

Orm -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/8/2022 1:53:45 PM)
I think that Axis will decide on how to stay at sea first. This time it might actually have some relevance. Any suggestion on how to proceed?

toenailthehun -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/12/2022 5:09:42 AM)
Axis agree we will post up to out Stay at sea and wait for the Allied response before progressing

toenailthehun -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/12/2022 5:58:29 AM)
Nov/Dec '40 End of Turn Production Plan Prelim: Germany: Save Oil (TR) Perm in Munich Save Oil (51,36) in Berlin Save Oil 56,40 in Berlin Save Oil (TR) Armavir in Budapest Save Oil Ploesti#1 in Berlin Save Oil Ploesti#2 in Brno Save Oil Ploesti#3 in Vienna Oil (TR) Mosul in production in Essen Should be 19 BP Italy: no change s/be 7 BP Japan: Oil (TR) 60,305 save in Tokyo Oil (TR) 64,281 save in Kyoto Oil (TR) Tarakan save in Canton Oil (TR) Balikpapan save in Sasebo

toenailthehun -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/12/2022 6:02:36 AM)
Nov/Dec '40 End of Turn Stay at Sea Germany: All CP's 2 x BB's in Baltic Coast Italy: All CP's Italian Coast CA Zara, CA Trieste East Med Nav2 CA Pola Japan: All CP's We await the Allied Stay at sea orders

Orm -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/12/2022 8:06:30 AM)
Nov/Dec '40 Allies end of turn: Preliminary planning: CW - 22 production points - 18 BPs. France - 0 production points - 0 BPs. Can not get the oil traded from CW to France to be saved. USA - 37 production points - 21 BPs. USSR - 25 production points - 15 BPs. China - 6 production points - 5 BPs Stay at sea: The following units stay at sea. CW: All CPs, except 2 in the East Med (1 CP stay in the East Med) 1 and 4 box in the Faeroes Gap 1 and 4 box in BoB 1 and 4 box in the North Atlantic 1 box in the East Coast 4 box in the Caribbean 4-box in CSV France: All CPs USA: CPs USSR: CP

toenailthehun -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/13/2022 5:30:08 AM)
Nov/Dec '40 Axis end of turn Return to base: Germany: He 100 to 70,49 Bf110C to Syracuse Italy: CA Fuime to La Spezia 2 x BB and CA Abruzzi to Salonica CR.42 to 75,40 Re.2000 to 74,39 Japan: All to Fukuoka

Orm -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/13/2022 6:39:20 AM)
I am wondering if you could post orders for the oil use, and breakdown as well? Then I could do the first part in one go. Saves in the breakdown step seems safe to use.

toenailthehun -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/14/2022 8:57:55 AM)
Nov/Dec '40 Axis end of turn Oil Use Germany: reorg all for 1.7 use 1 saved in Konigsberg and 1 being saved to Berlin Italy: reorg all for 1.8 use 2 oil being saved to Berlin Japan: use 0.4 oil re org G3M2, Trn and CV Hiryu Vichy France: use 0.45 Oil to reorg CP and 3 x BB in Marseilles and Sub in Algeria Axis Breakdown: SS Inf to Inf and Mot Div (both SS)

Orm -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/15/2022 1:19:45 PM)
Nov/Dec '40 Allies end of turn: Return to Base: France: Mozambique Channel: TRS + FTR2 -> Aden Tasman Sea: CA -> Adelaide CW: Bay of Bengal: TRS + MIL -> Singapore North Sea: 2 BB + 2 CA -> Scapa Flow Faeroes Gap: BB -> Liverpool, CA -> Plymouth, CA -> Liverpool BoB: TRS + INF -> Freetown, BB + CA -> Scapa Flow North Atlantic: BB + 2 CA -> Gibraltar Italian Coast: 3 CV + 3 BB + CA -> Malta, SUB -> Malta West Med: 2 FTR2 -> Malta CSV: TRS + HQA + CA -> cape Town, TRS -> Liverpool East Med: 4 BB + 3 CA -> Port Said, 2 CP + 2 CA -> Gibraltar, FTR2 + LND2 -> Damietta, ATR3 -> 83,59, Liner -> Plymouth, BB -> Calcutta Red Sea: CA + INF Div -> Suez USA: 4 x BB -> Honolulu TRS -> San Diego SUB -> Pago Pago USSR: - Use Oil: USSR: All units are reorganized for 0 oil (0.2). CW: All units are reorganized for 6 oil (5.55). Free France: All units are reorganized for 1 oil (1.0). USA: TRS + 3 BB are reorganized for 0 oil (0.4). China: All units are reorganized for 0 oil (0.0). Breakdown: China: INF (91,132) -> INF Div + MOT Div

Orm -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/15/2022 3:03:34 PM)
Nov/Dec '40 Allies end of turn: Prod plan Final: x Scrap: - Production: China (5): INF CAV CW (17): TERR INF 2 FTR2 CVP1 2 Pilot CV (1st) BB (2nd) Free France (0): - USA (21): MTN PARA BB (2nd) Repair CW CV Repair CW CA Repair CW SUB 2 CVP1 Pilot USSR (15): 3 INF MOT CAV Conquest: Germany conquers Crete.

Orm -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/15/2022 4:00:09 PM)
Nov/Dec '40 Start of turn Allies Reinforcements: CW: Scrap: NAV2 + LND3 + SUB CVP1 -> CV (Liverpool) MIL (Greek) -> Athens INF -> Calcutta TERR (Position will be edited in when nationality is known) BB + CA + CP -> Liverpool Fort -> Singapore France: USA: 3 CVP1 -> 3 CV (San Diego) China (Nat): INF Shikiang China (Com): INF Div Ningsia USSR: GARR -> Minsk GARR -> Chisinau GARR -> Gomel MOT -> Cernauti ARM -> Kiev MECH -> Odessa

Orm -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/15/2022 4:06:59 PM)
Seems we have a trade bug. All trades are mandatory, even the voluntary ones. Not sure how to fix this. Have you done any part of our game in another version (newer), and then edited back the version number in order to continue with this game version? Just want to rule that out as a culprit before examining things. Anyway. Don't think we can continue with this bug. Maybe editing can fix it? Think I saw that someone else had some similar bug.

Orm -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/15/2022 4:12:43 PM)
Trade agreements at the end of turn. (With bug) [image]local://upfiles/29130/ED228797D40D4E49AF67FD52F7B57206.jpg[/image]

Orm -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/15/2022 4:13:48 PM)
Trade agreements at the beginning of the turn. (Start of impulse 1, and without bug) [image]local://upfiles/29130/EF10D1752E0F4FF082F3C1664A0DEE50.jpg[/image]

Orm -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/15/2022 4:28:35 PM)
It seems that the trade error had not occurred at the beginning of impulse 11. However, the error is there at the beginning of impulse 13 (next impulse).

ssiviour -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/15/2022 6:47:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ssiviour Using 3.2.0 TRS continues to Salonica [image]local://upfiles/49692/39E2274BBA6F4B45A627DE64DB236B16.jpg[/image] Sorry but yes, I was the culprit to by pass this intercept bug.

ssiviour -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/15/2022 6:52:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Orm Trade agreements at the end of turn. (With bug) [image]local://upfiles/29130/ED228797D40D4E49AF67FD52F7B57206.jpg[/image] This bug has been previously reported on the Forums somewhere

Orm -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/15/2022 7:45:18 PM)
I am considering going back to a save before the bug appeared, and to try and re-create the game without the bug. Do you guys this is a solution that can be practically done?

Orm -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/15/2022 7:50:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ssiviour Sorry but yes, I was the culprit to by pass this intercept bug. I think that there is no culprit here. It falls into the category that 'things happen' when you get a 5-player game going for so long. I am amazed that so many get a game to survive into mid-game. And even more so at the end-game. And I do hope that we can manage to keep this game going until then. If anything, the thing that messed us up might just be that the trade routines where altered in later MWIF versions. I couldn't even load our EOT save with the latest version. Edit: Forgot to say that it is nice to know what might have caused the bug. [:)]

Courtenay -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/15/2022 10:13:23 PM)
This has happened to other people. I remember seeing discussions on how to fix it, and I think someone did. Unfortunately, I don't remember how, but you might look at threads on the tech support forum, or the thread on editing the game in Mods.

rkr1958 -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/16/2022 6:56:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Courtenay This has happened to other people. I remember seeing discussions on how to fix it, and I think someone did. Unfortunately, I don't remember how, but you might look at threads on the tech support forum, or the thread on editing the game in Mods. It's pretty straight forward to fix, but it requires editing the game file. The edit, in my opinion, is very safe. If you wish, I can do it. Just post your game file. However; I understand if you don't wish to play with "edited" game files. Definitely your call either way ...

Orm -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/16/2022 7:27:24 PM)
Thank you, Ronnie. I, or rather we, might take you up on your offer. However, I am going to make an attempt to recreate the game from a save without the bug and see if I can get it right without to much work. If I give up on that I am going to return to your offer and hope that solves it.

Orm -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/16/2022 7:30:02 PM)
Nov/Dec '40 Start of turn Allies Voluntary Resource Lending: CW -> China - 2 resource (1 oil) USA -> Free France - 1 resource (1 oil) USA -> China - 1 resource USA -> CW - 1 resources (1 oil) Allies will let Axis go first if we win the initiative. We will not ask for a re-roll.

ssiviour -> RE: The Australian Axis Rebels versus the Swedish Allied Empire (5 player game) (2/18/2022 7:11:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Orm I am considering going back to a save before the bug appeared, and to try and re-create the game without the bug. Do you guys this is a solution that can be practically done? Address the situation how you think best, I trust your judgement. If you need any assistance just ask.

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