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RogerJNeilson -> This has me puzzled (3/24/2021 10:34:04 AM)
Ok a game I began days after AE was released has finally drawn to a close. A bit annoying it simply finished but there you are. I will speak of more in other postings in the days ahead no doubt. However the attached screenshot is an amalgam of what was sent to me this morning by my honourable Japanese opponent as the victory screen and the previous intel screen from my side for the previous day. Can anyone explain to me the discrepancy between the Major Victory that has been showing as the result for weeks on my intel screen and the Marginal Victory on the final screen? Looking at the difference in the points I gained another few hundred in the last 24 hour period. In one sense it is not very significant for me, the Japanese still holding some islands that are self governing prison camps, Kyushu and Shikoku and Tokyo, Yokohama and Maebashi with starving troops in ruins does not feel at all marginal to me..... in the same way that still holding Berlin, and the odd holdout would have meant the war in Europe was a marginal victory? On the other hand is there some issue here about the victory conditions I have not understood? Cheers Roger [image]local://upfiles/41758/DB7125B4D9D740E489557A07CBE8D6D6.jpg[/image]

Sardaukar -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/24/2021 10:44:34 AM)
Did you use more than 2 atomic bombs?

PaxMondo -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/24/2021 10:49:13 AM)
I think a similar outcome was just discussed. You are 2:1 on Sept 1, 1945 ... It was major until September 1, 1945, then it dropped a level on that day ...

RogerJNeilson -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/24/2021 10:52:43 AM)
Aha, no I did not use any A bombs at all, I landed and took real estate. My A bomb unit was tucked away in northern Korea doing nothing. Ah so maybe that's the answer, someone said I had to do this one day earlier...... I didn't get the memo. Makes sense in gameplay terms. Roger

PaxMondo -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/24/2021 10:54:22 AM)
Correct, from gameplay for IJ it is all about survival ... if they can exceed history then they get a bonus. They still lose, just not as badly. [:D]

Alfred -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/24/2021 10:57:28 AM)
Read my posts in this thread. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4891701&mpage=1&key=auto� Unless the Allied player gets an auto victory before 1 September 1945, they will never achieve a Decisive Victory. Alfred Edit: PS. Was this the game involving Flashman? If so, I shudder at the thought how Valentina will react to the outcome.

RogerJNeilson -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/24/2021 10:59:41 AM)
I 'knew' you would have the answer Alfred. Thank you. The Emperor's empire at the rising of the sun on the 1st September....... Roger [image]local://upfiles/41758/62B33C9E9C7541B3AA89848EE0DF2323.jpg[/image]

RogerJNeilson -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/24/2021 11:01:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alfred Read my posts in this thread. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4891701&mpage=1&key=auto� Unless the Allied player gets an auto victory before 1 September 1945, they will never achieve a Decisive Victory. Alfred Edit: PS. Was this the game involving Flashman? If so, I shudder at the thought how Valentina will react to the outcome. Well you obviously missed the post about Valentina's vaporisation at Port Arthur...... unlike you...... The AAR will have a concluding post or two... Roger

Alfred -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/24/2021 11:08:22 AM)
Ah, but wasn't she only a Colonel? That would mean there would be someone to whom she reported to and that person in turn won't want to inform Uncle Joe they have ultimately been short changed. Alfred

RogerJNeilson -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/24/2021 11:23:26 AM)
You will just have to endure some suspense Alfred..... but you assume a lot in your last posting.... mirrors within mirrors.... Roger

BBfanboy -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/24/2021 4:54:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RogerJNeilson You will just have to endure some suspense Alfred..... but you assume a lot in your last posting.... mirrors within mirrors.... Roger Aha! The old 'staged death' trope! Nice! But how will Flashman handle having a clingy, dangerous paramour following his every move...? "The World wonders"![:D]

RangerJoe -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/25/2021 4:54:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: ORIGINAL: RogerJNeilson You will just have to endure some suspense Alfred..... but you assume a lot in your last posting.... mirrors within mirrors.... Roger Aha! The old 'staged death' trope! Nice! But how will Flashman handle having a clingy, dangerous paramour following his every move...? "The World wonders"![:D] Except that he dies in an "accident!" [;)]

RogerJNeilson -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/25/2021 5:04:51 PM)
All suggestions welcome, but we shall see.... importantly we are playing until the bitter end... it could be he is drafted into a heroic assault on Tokyo...... Cheers Roger

RogerJNeilson -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/25/2021 5:16:04 PM)
For those interested, this is how close the game came to the Decisive when I wasn't actually recalling I had to get there by the end of August...... [image]local://upfiles/41758/3901C7B986884EC581700CECCE1EC8F0.jpg[/image]

Alfred -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/25/2021 5:18:21 PM)
You should replace Flashman with Agent 86 so that he can say: "missed it by that much" Alfred

durnedwolf -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/25/2021 5:37:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alfred You should replace Flashman with Agent 86 so that he can say: "missed it by that much" Alfred I bet Agent 86 says that to all the girls... [:D]

BBfanboy -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/25/2021 6:02:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: durnedwolf quote: ORIGINAL: Alfred You should replace Flashman with Agent 86 so that he can say: "missed it by that much" Alfred I bet Agent 86 says that to all the girls... [:D] [:D][:D] But didn't he get Agent 99 in the end? [sm=innocent0009.gif]

Alfred -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/25/2021 6:05:08 PM)
Needs the Cone of Silence as "it" is a state secret sought by Siefried. Alfred

BBfanboy -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/25/2021 6:14:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alfred Needs the Cone of Silence as "it" is a state secret sought by Siefried. Alfred WHATTT!!!? CAN YOU REPEAT THAT!!!? THERE"S AN ECHO IN HERE!!!!

RangerJoe -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/25/2021 11:26:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: ORIGINAL: durnedwolf quote: ORIGINAL: Alfred You should replace Flashman with Agent 86 so that he can say: "missed it by that much" Alfred I bet Agent 86 says that to all the girls... [:D] [:D][:D] But didn't he get Agent 99 in the end? [sm=innocent0009.gif] [sm=kiss.gif][sm=happy0005.gif]

RogerJNeilson -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/26/2021 9:47:12 AM)
I don't know whether its an age or a culture thing but the Agent 86 references are going right over my head. Roger

Sardaukar -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/26/2021 9:58:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RogerJNeilson I don't know whether its an age or a culture thing but the Agent 86 references are going right over my head. Roger That is Maxwell Smart, me thinks?

Ian R -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/26/2021 10:06:21 AM)
What happened to RogerJNeilson the III?

BBfanboy -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/26/2021 3:31:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sardaukar quote: ORIGINAL: RogerJNeilson I don't know whether its an age or a culture thing but the Agent 86 references are going right over my head. Roger That is Maxwell Smart, me thinks? Yes, from the TV series and two movies "Get Smart". I liked the quotable lines and the lines of Agent 99 (Barbara Feldon): [image]local://upfiles/35791/520CD869D69E43EDA986F48FB29B4B72.jpg[/image]

Moltrey -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/26/2021 5:53:51 PM)
All this talk of secret agents and associated femme fatales got me thinking about a recent (small) venture of mine. On a whim I purchased the Kindle version of Ian Fleming's Casino Royale (the 1st James Bond book) for my iPad. I remember my mother years ago saying she had read all of the Bond books, I just never got around to it. Well, I am here to say I am glad I didn't put it off any longer. Fleming is an excellent writer that is particularly good at describing his scenes so that you feel you are right there with 007. His first lady sidekick is one Vesper Lynd. She works under the "Head of S" or Soviet section of the British secret service, who is trying to retire thru bankruptcy one Le Chiffre also known as Herr Ziffer, etc. So far I am a bit over halfway through, and Bond has managed to step in it along with Vesper, but no spoilers. Lots of fun and juicy espionage. Give it a try!

Nomad -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/26/2021 6:29:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: ORIGINAL: Sardaukar quote: ORIGINAL: RogerJNeilson I don't know whether its an age or a culture thing but the Agent 86 references are going right over my head. Roger That is Maxwell Smart, me thinks? Yes, from the TV series and two movies "Get Smart". I liked the quotable lines and the lines of Agent 99 (Barbara Feldon): [image]local://upfiles/35791/520CD869D69E43EDA986F48FB29B4B72.jpg[/image] Yes, Agent 99 has exquisite lines. [:)]

RangerJoe -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/27/2021 4:56:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nomad quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: ORIGINAL: Sardaukar quote: ORIGINAL: RogerJNeilson I don't know whether its an age or a culture thing but the Agent 86 references are going right over my head. Roger That is Maxwell Smart, me thinks? Yes, from the TV series and two movies "Get Smart". I liked the quotable lines and the lines of Agent 99 (Barbara Feldon): [image]local://upfiles/35791/520CD869D69E43EDA986F48FB29B4B72.jpg[/image] Yes, Agent 99 has exquisite exterior lines. [:)] There I fixed it for you. For her . . . [sm=00001746.gif] [sm=happy0005.gif]

RevRick -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/29/2021 4:30:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RogerJNeilson I don't know whether its an age or a culture thing but the Agent 86 references are going right over my head. Roger Sorry 'bout that!

fcooke -> RE: This has me puzzled (3/30/2021 1:33:19 AM)
very exquisite lines. I might have to bing watch some Get Smart.

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