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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (5/3/2021 2:18:44 PM)

Can't post pictures at the moment so can't update the AAR. Will have to wait for Matrix/Slitherine to fix the file upload feature to update.





HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (5/3/2021 3:25:58 PM)

Turn 12

Weather!!!


Still waiting on Matrix/Slitherine to fix file upload.

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Aurelian -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (5/3/2021 5:53:15 PM)

Whether the weather be fine,
Or whether the weather be not,
Whether the weather be cold,
Or whether the weather be hot.
We'll weather the weather,
Whatever the weather,
Whether we like it or not!




HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (5/3/2021 6:41:20 PM)

I wonder whether I should just stop posting on all my AAR's altogether or weather the storm?






HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (5/3/2021 6:44:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

I wonder whether I should just stop posting on all my AAR's altogether or weather the storm?





I know! It was Thanos!




M60A3TTS -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (5/3/2021 8:32:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain


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ORIGINAL: carlkay58

If you replace Soviet leaders too soon then you increase the chance of losing the leader if the HQ is overrun by the Axis.


This is SOOOOOOOOOO true in WITE2. The wind blows wrong and a displaced HQ will have a leader loss.



Sorry, but if you're afraid of losing leaders, play checkers. The guys that went on to capture Berlin didn't hang out in their tents.




HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (5/3/2021 8:54:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS


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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain


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ORIGINAL: carlkay58

If you replace Soviet leaders too soon then you increase the chance of losing the leader if the HQ is overrun by the Axis.


This is SOOOOOOOOOO true in WITE2. The wind blows wrong and a displaced HQ will have a leader loss.



Sorry, but if you're afraid of losing leaders, play checkers. The guys that went on to capture Berlin didn't hang out in their tents.



It is part of the game, no big deal. I will beat people with level 2, 3, & 4 leaders I don't give a frack. But the end result is it doesnt matter what leader is in the HQ when it is displaced the leader has a high chance of getting killed be it a good leader or a bad leader.





carlkay58 -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (5/3/2021 11:48:18 PM)

I would just like to mention that I suck at keeping leaders alive.

As the Soviets I lost Zhukov on turn 2 as commander of the STAVKA which had not moved from Moscow. This was in my game vs HYLA. By the time the game ended I had lost over 40 Soviet commanders - over two per turn. I had lost another four commanders due to execution. It was not a good game for Soviet leadership . . .

In my last five or more games as the Axis I have lost von Manstein on turn 5 AT THE LATEST. I have also had a game where Guderian, von Manstein, Model (who replaced Guderian), von Kluge, and Heth had all been KIA by turn 5. In none of those cases has the leader been in an HQ that was displaced.




Laits -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (5/4/2021 12:21:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: carlkay58

I would just like to mention that I suck at keeping leaders alive.

As the Soviets I lost Zhukov on turn 2 as commander of the STAVKA which had not moved from Moscow. This was in my game vs HYLA. By the time the game ended I had lost over 40 Soviet commanders - over two per turn. I had lost another four commanders due to execution. It was not a good game for Soviet leadership . . .

In my last five or more games as the Axis I have lost von Manstein on turn 5 AT THE LATEST. I have also had a game where Guderian, von Manstein, Model (who replaced Guderian), von Kluge, and Heth had all been KIA by turn 5. In none of those cases has the leader been in an HQ that was displaced.



What is the reason of the losses? Such high death rate looks weird.




carlkay58 -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (5/4/2021 6:53:08 PM)

Bad luck. Every leader has a micro chance of death each turn. In my case that happens every game to von Manstein.




M60A3TTS -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (5/4/2021 6:57:21 PM)

15.8. DEATH OF A LEADER

Leaders can be killed and permanently removed from the game due to dismissal, headquarters relocation, air attack and other enemy action.
Leaders who are automatically dismissed due to poor performance (losing battles) may be executed. A low political rating increases the chances of a dismissed leader being executed.
There is a 15 percent chance that when a headquarters unit is relocated or forced to execute a displacement move, the assigned leader may be killed or captured.
In either case, if the HQ is isolated the chance of the leader being killed increases to 50 percent.




HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (5/4/2021 7:12:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

15.8. DEATH OF A LEADER

Leaders can be killed and permanently removed from the game due to dismissal, headquarters relocation, air attack and other enemy action.
Leaders who are automatically dismissed due to poor performance (losing battles) may be executed. A low political rating increases the chances of a dismissed leader being executed.
There is a 15 percent chance that when a headquarters unit is relocated or forced to execute a displacement move, the assigned leader may be killed or captured.
In either case, if the HQ is isolated the chance of the leader being killed increases to 50 percent.


M60 is the MAN! :) TY again M60.




carlkay58 -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (5/4/2021 7:15:09 PM)

Yeah, but I have yet to have von Manstein's HQ displace and he still dies. :(




HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (5/4/2021 7:58:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: carlkay58

Yeah, but I have yet to have von Manstein's HQ displace and he still dies. :(



then you are the subject of my rule of this AAR post #390 without the displaced HQ,

"This is SOOOOOOOOOO true in WITE2. The wind blows wrong will have a leader loss."




M60A3TTS -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (5/4/2021 7:59:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: carlkay58

Yeah, but I have yet to have von Manstein's HQ displace and he still dies. :(



There's no rhyme or reason, occasionally they just die in an accident. I've had a game where Zhukov died, and another with Vatutin dead. It hurts the Soviets a lot because they have fewer top tier leaders. I've seen cases where on turn 2 a Soviet leader dies in a pocket displacement, a good general replaces him, and then he immediately dies to a second displacement. Those 2-fers are a real downer. You just have to roll with the punches.




HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (5/4/2021 9:47:57 PM)

This Game is officially over

After conversing with Dodo98 it was in the best interest to end the campaign here. This being Dodo98's first German game H-2-H in WITE2 he did well. I thank him for the time we spent in the game and hopefully in the future we can once again meet on the battlefield. Please give a hand to Dodo98 a real stellar fellow! :-)




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