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Roby7979 -> Kashmir Fire Scenarios (4/19/2021 10:35:51 AM)

Command: Kashmir Fire out on May 6Th
let's take a look at some scenarios:

1 Border Skirmish
Date/time: 19 October,2024 - Zulu 01:00:00
Duration: 4 Hours
Playable Sides: Pakistan

Ever since the Indian Subcontinent was independent of Great Britain, conflict between the predominantly Hindu Indian population and predominantly Muslim Pakistani population has been practically constant. With several official and unofficial conflicts taking place between 1947 and today, there is plenty of bad blood between the two nations.
Recently insurgents in northern Pakistan have increased attacks into Indian held Kashmir. Indian forces have put pressure along the border to contain insurgents to Pakistan, but are so far unsuccessful. Pakistani forces have also engaged with these insurgents, however the frequency of attacks within Pakistan is minimal in comparison. Indian Armed Forces are massing in the Kashmir and Punjab regions to bolster local police and military forces in an effort to stem the insurgent attacks.
Three days ago, Indian forces launched a short incursion into Pakistan chasing after withdrawing insurgents, they retreated into India quickly, however their presence was known. Pakistan strongly denounced the Indian military action outside of their borders, and warned of a retaliation in case of a repeat offense. Tensions between the two South Asian powers are running high, and conflict appears inevitable.


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Roby7979 -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (4/19/2021 10:36:33 AM)

5 Flaming Seas
Date/time: 5 November,2024 - Zulu 02:00:00
Duration: 16 Hours
Playable Sides: India

After narrowly avoiding nuclear catastrophe, the Indian Military stepped up its offensives in all spheres of combat. The Mountain Alliance is still holding firm, however their Air Force is completely in shambles. Pakistani forces are on the run, however they are setting up defensive lines around major cities and infrastructure.
American and Chinese forces are closely monitoring the situation from the Indian Ocean. American diplomats are attempting to draw down the crisis, while Chinese diplomats are attempting to supply Pakistan. There have been reports of Chinese aircraft being shipped to Pakistan to supplement its dwindling Air Force, however these remain unconfirmed.
The Pakistani Navy has stayed in port at Karachi, maintaining its status as a fleet in being. Indian forces have maintained standoff from the coast due to the presence of land based SSMs. Both Indian carriers have been sidelined early in the conflict due to technical issues, but their appearance in the waters off Pakistan is near.


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Roby7979 -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (4/19/2021 10:37:07 AM)

7 Alliances
Date/time: 13 November,2024 - Zulu 02:00:00
Duration: 12 Hours
Playable Sides: Pakistan

The Indo-Pakistani War has stunned the world. The speed at which Indian forces have advanced towards major Pakistani cities has surprised many foreign observers, but the losses both sides have taken is staggering. Pakistan is near the brink of defeat, and has pleaded for foreign assistance to China as well as other Muslim countries. China announced it was sending an expeditionary force to Pakistan to “protect the interests of the Chinese People and maintain security for Chinese assets abroad”.
Saudi Arabia and Indonesia also answered the call of Pakistan, sending forces to protect major Pakistani targets. Open conflict between China and India doesn’t seem near, however the world is fearful of the possibility. Pakistan will likely try to lead a new counterattack against Indian forces, but they need to stem the flow of Indian forces and supplies to the front line first.


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Roby7979 -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (4/19/2021 10:37:40 AM)

11 Escalation
Date/time: 6 December,2024 - Zulu 05:00:06
Duration: 1d 11 Hours
Playable Sides: United States

A week after the United States formally intervened against Pakistan, India has stemmed the advance of Pakistani forces and the frontline has settled. China has deployed both the Liaoning and Shandong carrier strike groups to put additional pressure on Indian forces, and the United States has responded by bringing the Abraham Lincoln strike group to the theater.
China stated that it would engage any American aircraft attacking Pakistani targets, which has led to a slight lull in American air operations as brass and politicians weigh their options. Last night, congress passed a secret vote, and today the results of that vote will be seen.



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HalfLifeExpert -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (4/20/2021 1:12:43 AM)

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China has deployed both the Liaoning and Shandong carrier strike groups to put additional pressure on Indian forces, and the United States has responded by bringing the Abraham Lincoln strike group to the theater.


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [X(] [&o]

Can't Wait to tackle this one!!


Any chance of a full scenario list pre-release like the other Campaign DLCs?



RedBunny -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (4/21/2021 4:35:53 AM)

This looks good and I'm sure I'll get it at some point but I would have liked to have seen mostly historical scenarios featuring the various conflicts in the area over a period of time, in the style of Shifting Sands.



Roby7979 -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/3/2021 4:03:07 PM)

Command: Kashmir Fire full scenario list pre-release!!

All scenarios revealed
Thanks to Warfare Sims
Check HERE



ai_beyondcontrol -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/6/2021 4:52:50 AM)

Y E T A G A I N?
With all respect, the scenarios reads and feels just like replaying Chain of War scenarios on a different place on earth:a series of single-sided scenarios portraying the same story where a US-philic country was invaded by China or a China-philic country and caught by surprise, after that US and a bunch of US-philic countries would came to save the day, and together they defeat the great Red Dragon and its evil fellows, restoring peace and order. I think as leading wargame CMO shall be more imaginative than simply fulfilling the apetite of some sinophobians in a repetitive manner.



Dimitris -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/6/2021 6:00:01 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ai_beyondcontrol
Y E T A G A I N?
With all respect, the scenarios reads and feels just like replaying Chain of War scenarios on a different place on earth:a series of single-sided scenarios portraying the same story where a US-philic country was invaded by China or a China-philic country and caught by surprise, after that US and a bunch of US-philic countries would came to save the day, and together they defeat the great Red Dragon and its evil fellows, restoring peace and order. I think as leading wargame CMO shall be more imaginative than simply fulfilling the apetite of some sinophobians in a repetitive manner.


IIRC the Chains Of War campaign ended with a theater/strategic stalemate and the start of a new cold war, not with a Chinese defeat.



Fritz1776 -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/6/2021 9:33:07 PM)

It ended with an all out Hail Mary (roll credits) strike against every last Chinese asset within US/AUS striking range and located no more than 100nm inland. I don't think there's a canon beyond that.



BDukes -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/6/2021 11:36:01 PM)

Hi Guys. I wrote that campaign. I didn't think either side really had a clear path to victory when I wrote it in 2015-16ish. I still don't, although lots of grand strategy and order of battle changes are afoot. There will likely be a new China/US War DLC (I'm speculating-but it's a good horse to bet on) and tons of stuff in the community scenario pot to tinker with. You are, of course, allowed to build anything with the outcomes you like and build stuff that other people won't like. There is no such thing as building something everybody likes or fits with their worldview. Well, maybe the inventor of cookie-butter did. But you get my point! This was probably the longest way to say,its just a game..but whatever[:)]

I purchased Kashmir Fire today, and it's gonna be awesome. Roby's a great storyteller with lots of media, including CMO, and gets game design. It's gonna be a great twenty-thirty hours of gameplay with strategies to develop and problems to solve. That's what I care about!

Mike



SunlitZelkova -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/6/2021 11:46:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Fritz1776

It ended with an all out Hail Mary (roll credits) strike against every last Chinese asset within US/AUS striking range and located no more than 100nm inland. I don't think there's a canon beyond that.


There is if you play it as a campaign instead of as a stand alone scenario.

The war ends, but one might say China won. The US ended up agreeing to cease stationing troops on Okinawa and Taiwan's military was left in ruins, which meant they technically achieved their war aims. In addition it is hinted that some form of new North Korean government will remain intact so nothing was lost on the Korean peninsula. Meanwhile the US and friends are battered.

On the other hand, most of the Chinese blue water fleet has been destroyed as were large numbers of their modern aircraft.



Dimitris -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/7/2021 2:05:45 PM)

So this is ai_beyondcontrol's "response": https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198143830765/recommended/1076160/

Everyone is, of course, entitled to his own opinion.



alphali -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/7/2021 2:24:26 PM)

This is a sandbox sim, you can build whatever scenario you want/like. No one is forcing you to buy DLC's you don't like.
And on another note, like what others stated, Chains of War ends with a stalemate with no victories for any of the parties involved. Which makes some sense, believing china will win and conquer the world would be quite naive.



Roby7979 -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/7/2021 4:38:51 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BDukes

Hi Guys. I wrote that campaign. I didn't think either side really had a clear path to victory when I wrote it in 2015-16ish. I still don't, although lots of grand strategy and order of battle changes are afoot. There will likely be a new China/US War DLC (I'm speculating-but it's a good horse to bet on) and tons of stuff in the community scenario pot to tinker with. You are, of course, allowed to build anything with the outcomes you like and build stuff that other people won't like. There is no such thing as building something everybody likes or fits with their worldview. Well, maybe the inventor of cookie-butter did. But you get my point! This was probably the longest way to say,its just a game..but whatever[:)]

I purchased Kashmir Fire today, and it's gonna be awesome. Roby's a great storyteller with lots of media, including CMO, and gets game design. It's gonna be a great twenty-thirty hours of gameplay with strategies to develop and problems to solve. That's what I care about!

Mike


Hey Mike,
thank you, but I'm not the creator/author of the Kashimr Fire dlc [:)]



BDukes -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/7/2021 6:03:34 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Roby7979


quote:

ORIGINAL: BDukes

Hi Guys. I wrote that campaign. I didn't think either side really had a clear path to victory when I wrote it in 2015-16ish. I still don't, although lots of grand strategy and order of battle changes are afoot. There will likely be a new China/US War DLC (I'm speculating-but it's a good horse to bet on) and tons of stuff in the community scenario pot to tinker with. You are, of course, allowed to build anything with the outcomes you like and build stuff that other people won't like. There is no such thing as building something everybody likes or fits with their worldview. Well, maybe the inventor of cookie-butter did. But you get my point! This was probably the longest way to say,its just a game..but whatever[:)]

I purchased Kashmir Fire today, and it's gonna be awesome. Roby's a great storyteller with lots of media, including CMO, and gets game design. It's gonna be a great twenty-thirty hours of gameplay with strategies to develop and problems to solve. That's what I care about!

Mike


Hey Mike,
thank you, but I'm not the creator/author of the Kashimr Fire dlc [:)]



LOL. That's funny. I would have gone with it.[8D]

I've started it and already loving it. Whomever did it.[:D]

Mike



BDukes -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/7/2021 6:09:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dimitris

So this is ai_beyondcontrol's "response": https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198143830765/recommended/1076160/

Everyone is, of course, entitled to his own opinion.


This is not funny. All reviews must be funny. I was a customer back when Yelp started and customer reviews are supposed to be funny. That's my review of his review.

Mike



Sanyr1310 -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/8/2021 8:17:43 AM)

Guys，let‘s talk about the scen. Why there is a 055 DDG with no fuel in the scen "Escalation"? And why there is 053 FFG(which is out of date) in the PLAN CVBGs? I'm sure there is something wrong.



Dimitris -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/8/2021 3:52:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanyr1310
Guys，let‘s talk about the scen. Why there is a 055 DDG with no fuel in the scen "Escalation"? And why there is 053 FFG(which is out of date) in the PLAN CVBGs? I'm sure there is something wrong.


Just checked this.

One of the Type 055s in the scenario (the one on the southernmost CVBG) indeed appears to run out of fuel, we'll check this.

The presence of the 053H3 FFG in the group is AFAIK deliberate by the scenario author. I cannot speak for him, but it's not unusual for the escorts in a carrier group to be a mix of high/low capability (e.g. until Aegis got widely deployed in USN, Perry FFGs and Adams or even Farragut/Coontz DDGs were quite regular in US CVBGs).

Thanks.



cristianwj -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/8/2021 4:08:30 PM)

Thank you for your quick response.
And I noticed the latest edition of DLC's scenarios is DB487, which inhibitant for users to take advantage of latest update of v1.03.
If there is any possible to updated scenarios to DB488?
I think this update will make this DLC more playable and challenged.
Thank you again.



Sanyr1310 -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/8/2021 4:31:21 PM)

Thanks for your quick response.

I think the author should at least learn some up to date information about PLAN before he made the scenario. If so，he should have known that the “Low” in the mix of high/low capability will be 054As which already have 30 in service，not the 053H3s which are much fewer in quantity and will probably all get retired in the middle of 2020s.

I suggest he check the newest PLAN CSG spy images from the JSDF Joint Staff website.



stilesw -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/8/2021 9:34:43 PM)

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I think the author should at least learn some up to date information about PLAN before he made the scenario. If so，he should have known that the “Low” in the mix of high/low capability will be 054As which already have 30 in service，not the 053H3s which are much fewer in quantity and will probably all get retired in the middle of 2020s.

I suggest he check the newest PLAN CSG spy images from the JSDF Joint Staff website.


Luigi,

That is not really a fair point. Depending on the time period, nations/units involved and availability of unclassified information a campaign’s (or scenario’s) author will have a less than perfect knowledge of real world military assets.

I believe that in every campaign produced to date the authors have had to make judgement calls and estimates of the unit types and numbers to be included. One forum member attempted to make a scenario (not the DLC campaign) of the Desert Storm conflict and wanted to include every unit involved. Under CMANO the scenario was 7-8Mb in size. In CMO it would easily be 3-4 times larger and while close (perhaps) to being technically accurate it was pretty much unplayable. Still, it was a remarkably detailed effort.

Specifically, in the Desert Storm DLC tradeoffs were made by having a representational number of appropriate units assigned.

So, no campaign or scenario is going to be perfect but for the CMO simulation I think this one has done an excellent job.

-Wayne Stiles



Dimitris -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/10/2021 6:32:00 AM)

Updated scenarios #1, #3 and #11 by the campaign author: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1v1XkWp1SnRh3Pp1tdEbvcAeBe-BaLcFX

These will also be included in the next update.



mikerohan -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/10/2021 7:26:35 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dimitris

Updated scenarios #1, #3 and #11 by the campaign author: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1v1XkWp1SnRh3Pp1tdEbvcAeBe-BaLcFX

These will also be included in the next update.


Thanks! It would be great to include a short line, just to know what to expect [;)]



giantsquid -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/10/2021 10:05:53 PM)

Thanks for your fast update of the scenarios. Excellent work. They look great.
By the way, who is the scenarios author?

Thanks
Francesco



FMBluecher -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/11/2021 2:43:53 PM)

If we download the updated scenarios, will the updates apply to campaign play or them as standalone scenarios only?



Eggstor -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/11/2021 4:10:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FMBluecher

If we download the updated scenarios, will the updates apply to campaign play or them as standalone scenarios only?

If you already started a particular scenario (whether in campaign mode or standalone mode) and load that save/checkpoint, you'll still be playing the original scenario as the save file is not changed. If you continue to an updated campaign scenario from the previous scenario or load it as a fresh-start standalone scenario, you'll be playing the updated scenario.

That's why I recommend saving campaign scenarios once you reach the pass-score and before you hit "Continue Campaign". That way, if the following scenario is updated, you can load the "end" save of the previous scenario (which should appear just before the "checkpoint" save of the updated scenario), hit "Continue Campaign" off the Scoring window once loaded, and start with the updated campaign.

Specifically with this update, you'll need to start a new campaign to play the updated first scenario in campaign mode, or load and continue from scenarios 2/10 (and hopefully not have to fully play through if you already played them) in campaign mode to play the updated versions of scenarios 3/11 (respectively) in campaign mode.



FMBluecher -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (5/11/2021 11:55:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Eggstor
[useful stuff]


Perfect, thank you very much!



dadizonline -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (7/22/2021 7:11:36 AM)

much appreciated but there are few changes I wanted to point out



AndrewNguyen1984 -> RE: Kashmir Fire Scenarios (10/17/2021 3:36:19 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ai_beyondcontrol

Y E T A G A I N?
With all respect, the scenarios reads and feels just like replaying Chain of War scenarios on a different place on earth:a series of single-sided scenarios portraying the same story where a US-philic country was invaded by China or a China-philic country and caught by surprise, after that US and a bunch of US-philic countries would came to save the day, and together they defeat the great Red Dragon and its evil fellows, restoring peace and order. I think as leading wargame CMO shall be more imaginative than simply fulfilling the apetite of some sinophobians in a repetitive manner.



Honestly I agree with you sir. And considering the balance of forces and of the status of the countries involved as well as history. Even I as an American agree with you.



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