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DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (6/24/2021 12:30:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DanielAClark With an enemy being so cautious with escorts...is there a long term opportunity to setup an attrition trap? I.e. a location that is attractive for him to take but ties down his escorts because you can interdict his supply routes to it? That would work only if overextends himself and moves into an area where I am substantially stronger, for instance the South Pacific in a few months time. His heavy use of escorts does create potential openings though to strike in areas where they are not present.

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (6/24/2021 12:41:47 AM)
January 22, 1942 Japanese forces landed at Kendari today under the cover of aircraft carriers that I am pretty sure includes two fleet carriers from the KB. Interesting, Slith is not always keeping the KB concentrated. The Japanese brought with them the 21st Air Flotilla so I can shortly expect a naval bomber threat from this base. In the meantime I sent my heavy bombers to strike the oil facilities in Balikpapan that I just lost to the Japanese. Unfortunately the bombers could carry only half their payloads due to insufficient airfield infrastructure at Soerabaja were they are based but that was immediately rectified at the end of the turn when level 5 airfields was completed there. [image]local://upfiles/55490/CAAEE2EE294940C48141A46602225E28.jpg[/image]

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (6/25/2021 1:16:30 AM)
January 23, 1942 Intel reports that Japanese forces have begun their operation to cross into Singapore. Allied troops in defensive positions are gripping their Enfield rifles in anticipation. Round two on the Balikpapan airfields with increased Japanese fighter interference. This time the heavy bombers flew with full payloads, and despite thunderstorms, scored a good amount of hits. [image]local://upfiles/55490/159A637B137B470499096445C30C9921.jpg[/image]

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (6/25/2021 1:23:35 AM)
The Japanese begin their assault on Wenchow. I suspect Slith got a pretty decent die roll on this one, but he did bring four infantry divisions and a brigade to do the job so I doubt the siege will last very long. [image]local://upfiles/55490/0D6477AE857D4AF59DE91E015232254B.jpg[/image]

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (6/25/2021 7:44:22 PM)
January 24, 1942 Flying Fortresses scored more than 30 hits on the Balikpapan oil fields today but at a steep cost in lost bombers. 10 D and E models were lost to all causes. About a third of the oil wells at Balikpapan are now knocked out but Slith has sent enough fighter units to the area to make more raids impractical, especially given limited numbers of bombers. [image]local://upfiles/55490/12DEDEECFDC6417E876612C24BD5F111.jpg[/image]

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (6/26/2021 7:13:14 AM)
January 25, 1942 Second round at Wenchow with a substantially better outcome than the first round despite lower forts. The next turn or two I suspect Slith and I will have a couple of big battles, including very likely the Singapore crossing. [image]local://upfiles/55490/4467D06E68564163BF640A1E04B300D5.jpg[/image]

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (6/26/2021 1:22:35 PM)
January 26, 1942 Massed Japanese air strikes hit the Singapore garrison, all but confirming the imminent Japanese assault. Some Buffalos got caught up in the attack and were chewed up by the Oscar escorts, but the flak did well against Slith's bombers. [image]local://upfiles/55490/19315098EFA04168A3911CC1C7EB2F2A.jpg[/image]

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (6/26/2021 1:25:37 PM)
In China, a very significant Japanese force was detected on the move towards Tsiaotso and I mobilized my own forces in response. Just as the Japanese attacked, Chinese reinforcements poured in across from Loyang and prevented the base's capture. [image]local://upfiles/55490/FA5400938E8A47D6AEA4F426699A5B80.jpg[/image]

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (6/26/2021 1:26:59 PM)
Back to Singapore, where the Japanese charged in from the Malay peninsula. The Singapore fortress stands strong! [image]local://upfiles/55490/D7A44F007F234916AA34D17309E3A74D.jpg[/image]

RangerJoe -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (6/26/2021 3:16:49 PM)
If the enemy fighters are at Balikpapen, then they are not elsewhere to protect the LI or Resources. It will also cost a lot of supplies to repair the oil not to mention the lost oil production. The game for now is all about costing the enemy as many supplies as is possible.

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (6/28/2021 12:32:04 AM)
January 28, 1942 Slith's previous high level bombing was not accurate enough to prevent me from getting level 4 forts so he sent forth his bombers to work the airfields at Singapore, this time at low altitude. The Japanese pilots did score many more hits on Singapore's airfields from the lower height, but at a considerable cost. [image]local://upfiles/55490/8572EE53FFF7476682A717AA13586906.jpg[/image]

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (6/30/2021 12:37:19 PM)
January 31, 1942 Japanese troops have landed in force at Ambon, losing a few transport ships to some excellent Dutch coastal guns in the process. Meanwhile in Luzon I am sensing an imminent Japanese assault on Clark, and in China it is only a matter of time until Wenchow falls. I remain active however, especially in the air where B-17 bombers are once again striking back at strategic oil targets and forcing Slith to spread out his fighters. Tarakan was successfully hit from extreme range and this was followed by two strikes on Samarinda that severely degraded its output. [image]local://upfiles/55490/2AF6ED946C7249E7BBE215E231A7FB52.jpg[/image]

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (7/8/2021 5:10:31 PM)
February 14, 1942 I haven't updated my AAR in a while so time for a comprehensive look at where things stand. Over the past two weeks, Slith has pressed his offensive in the SRA and has successfully taken Palembang, Ambon, and Makassar. The Japanese did lose several transports with each of these successes but Slith has continued to bring overwhelming naval and air power forward which has prevented me from really punching back. I continued some heavy bomber operations and did some significant damage overall to oil fields (knocked out almost a 100 oil wells in Palembang for instance) but as the Japanese gained airfields close to Java, Allied bomber operations have become significantly more difficult due to Imperial air attacks on their staging bases. Both Singapore and Clark/Bataan are still standing strong, and now I expect Slith to focus on eliminating Java first before he attempts to finish those garrisons off. [image]local://upfiles/55490/04778D18522D4F288869B934A2862878.jpg[/image]

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (7/8/2021 5:15:11 PM)
I am still doing pretty well in the air overall but the losses on both sides have been a lot more similar in the past couple of weeks as the Japanese come to grips with the weaker Dutch air force. Naval losses remain relatively low on both sides. Against all odds, I have extricated both the Repulse and the Prince of Wales from the SRA despite both ships having been dreadfully damaged on the first day of the war with about five torpedo hits each. [image]local://upfiles/55490/1B648339644E49AFA8BA2842C515C3E6.jpg[/image]

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (7/8/2021 5:26:50 PM)
China is always a very interesting theater. Wenchow has finally fallen to the Japanese, but in the north a large Japanese force has been successfully halted at Tsiaotso. Another Japanese field army of three divisions, two tank regiments, and some artillery attempted to flank my defenses in the Loyang/Chengchow/Tsiaotso area but I resorted to my usual mobile operations by extricating some forces from the forward defenses at Tsiaotso and bringing up reserves from Sian to surprise and smash half of this Japanese force and encircle the rest of it near Nanyang. [image]local://upfiles/55490/3C0EC647CDE741B49000DD14CBCAC8C5.jpg[/image]

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (7/8/2021 5:31:44 PM)
During the battle of Nanyang, I timed the arrival of a large Chinese force so that it would appear for only a single turn in the hex east of Nanyang before it moved into Nanyang itself. This combined with the intervention of the Chinese air force prevented the Japanese from retreating back into the city with their full army before I launched my assault. [image]local://upfiles/55490/CFFCBF2407FA40D39260FFB1D4C0F591.jpg[/image]

GetAssista -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (7/9/2021 7:05:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesertWolf101 During the battle of Nanyang, I timed the arrival of a large Chinese force so that it would appear for only a single turn in the hex east of Nanyang before it moved into Nanyang itself. You mean your Chinese are somehow faster than armor in the clear crosscountry? [8D] Edit: oh wait, the east, you marched along the road.. Good play Great encirclement anyway! Would certainly be a hassle to clear for Japan and mess up with his schedule. Alas the potential to inflict damage to his LCUs there is limited cause of terrain and Chinese squishiness in assaults.

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (7/9/2021 7:46:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GetAssista quote: ORIGINAL: DesertWolf101 During the battle of Nanyang, I timed the arrival of a large Chinese force so that it would appear for only a single turn in the hex east of Nanyang before it moved into Nanyang itself. You mean your Chinese are somehow faster than armor in the clear crosscountry? [8D] Edit: oh wait, the east, you marched along the road.. Good play Great encirclement anyway! Would certainly be a hassle to clear for Japan and mess up with his schedule. Alas the potential to inflict damage to his LCUs there is limited cause of terrain and Chinese squishiness in assaults. Thanks! Yes there is no beating the speed of his armor but the Chinese can create opportunities for outmaneuvering Japanese infantry/artillery through careful timing, air strikes to slow down Japanese columns, and through good use of terrain/roads. In this case Slith's armor made it back in time to defend Nanyang when he saw the trap but two out of his three infantry divisions didn't and are now encircled. Whether they stay encircled for long however is another issue.

RangerJoe -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (7/9/2021 4:42:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesertWolf101 quote: ORIGINAL: GetAssista quote: ORIGINAL: DesertWolf101 During the battle of Nanyang, I timed the arrival of a large Chinese force so that it would appear for only a single turn in the hex east of Nanyang before it moved into Nanyang itself. You mean your Chinese are somehow faster than armor in the clear crosscountry? [8D] Edit: oh wait, the east, you marched along the road.. Good play Great encirclement anyway! Would certainly be a hassle to clear for Japan and mess up with his schedule. Alas the potential to inflict damage to his LCUs there is limited cause of terrain and Chinese squishiness in assaults. Thanks! Yes there is no beating the speed of his armor but the Chinese can create opportunities for outmaneuvering Japanese infantry/artillery through careful timing, air strikes to slow down Japanese columns, and through good use of terrain/roads. In this case Slith's armor made it back in time to defend Nanyang when he saw the trap but two out of his three infantry divisions didn't and are now encircled. Whether they stay encircled for long however is another issue. If you have the supplies to bombard, that will cause those units to use more supplies. If you can bomb and strafe, each attack can cost him an increase in supply usage of 10%.

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (7/10/2021 3:34:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe quote: ORIGINAL: DesertWolf101 quote: ORIGINAL: GetAssista quote: ORIGINAL: DesertWolf101 During the battle of Nanyang, I timed the arrival of a large Chinese force so that it would appear for only a single turn in the hex east of Nanyang before it moved into Nanyang itself. You mean your Chinese are somehow faster than armor in the clear crosscountry? [8D] Edit: oh wait, the east, you marched along the road.. Good play Great encirclement anyway! Would certainly be a hassle to clear for Japan and mess up with his schedule. Alas the potential to inflict damage to his LCUs there is limited cause of terrain and Chinese squishiness in assaults. Thanks! Yes there is no beating the speed of his armor but the Chinese can create opportunities for outmaneuvering Japanese infantry/artillery through careful timing, air strikes to slow down Japanese columns, and through good use of terrain/roads. In this case Slith's armor made it back in time to defend Nanyang when he saw the trap but two out of his three infantry divisions didn't and are now encircled. Whether they stay encircled for long however is another issue. If you have the supplies to bombard, that will cause those units to use more supplies. If you can bomb and strafe, each attack can cost him an increase in supply usage of 10%. Plenty of supplies for now, but the two trapped Japanese divisions may very well be rescued before they run out. We shall see.

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (7/10/2021 3:44:49 PM)
February 18, 1942 Japanese paratroopers dropped in and captured Merak in the northwestern tip of Java, the imperial invasion begins! Meanwhile in China, I sensed an opportunity for a daring advance on Wuchang given Slith's forces were already heavily engaged in other sectors. Chinese troops of the Central Army scrambled out of their trenches and redoubts and assembled at Changsha where their officers bombarded them with rousing speeches before they force marched them towards the enemy's fortifications. Upon arrival the troops immediately went into battle under the cover of Chinese bombers. The Flying Tigers in turn swung into action to keep the Japanese bombers at bay, shooting down a dozen aircraft in the process. [image]local://upfiles/55490/9805C0E8B2784E1DB82C14C1B9C4D8E0.jpg[/image]

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (7/10/2021 3:49:30 PM)
With a large Chinese army threatening Wuchang and Hankow, and with another Chinese army marching towards Sinyang, it appears that Slith has felt that he has no choice but to pull back his forces around Ichang to reinforce his flanks. The dance around the Loyang/Chengchow area continues with the Japanese pulling back some of their divisions from Tsiaotso. I suspect he will try to go directly for Loyang or Chengchow now before trying to rescue his two trapped divisions. [image]local://upfiles/55490/4D355E6DE82F42E9B19F056F963F2F7D.jpg[/image]

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (7/11/2021 1:30:34 PM)
February 19, 1942 With the Japanese landing troops on Java, I took the calculated risk of launching my heavy bombers against Palembang under the assumption that the bulk of Slith's fighters were likely busy covering his invasion forces. Maybe I should have gone for the oil again, but this time I went for the airfields and port. [image]local://upfiles/55490/D242A3482BA44E9BB7576C65AC4CC254.jpg[/image]

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (7/11/2021 1:35:00 PM)
In China I have confirmed that the Japanese have abandoned Ichang. I also sent in another attack against Wuchang, expecting it to fall this time around, but the garrison held on for another day. I don't mind though, since I am disabling more squads than I am losing which I anticipate will result in even more destroyed Japanese squads and guns once the town is finally taken. [image]local://upfiles/55490/66D2F17AEED04632954617D85742C3FD.jpg[/image]

GetAssista -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (7/11/2021 2:21:52 PM)
I'm divided wrt those early war Chinese offensives. On the one hand you can do some damage to Jap LCUs, on the other you are running on borrowed supply that would be sorely needed later for defence and R&R.

Lowpe -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (7/11/2021 3:33:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GetAssista I'm divided wrt those early war Chinese offensives. On the one hand you can do some damage to Jap LCUs, on the other you are running on borrowed supply that would be sorely needed later for defence and R&R. No way you could get away with moving in open in China during 1942. You should be getting bombed back into the stone age. Flying Tigers are easily handled...especially over open non base terrain.

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (7/11/2021 3:56:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GetAssista I'm divided wrt those early war Chinese offensives. On the one hand you can do some damage to Jap LCUs, on the other you are running on borrowed supply that would be sorely needed later for defence and R&R. Yeah it's a risky move to go on the offensive as the Chinese this early for a number of reasons, supply being a big one. I think it comes down to the circumstances of your game and to some extent your playstyle.

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (7/11/2021 4:02:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe quote: ORIGINAL: GetAssista I'm divided wrt those early war Chinese offensives. On the one hand you can do some damage to Jap LCUs, on the other you are running on borrowed supply that would be sorely needed later for defence and R&R. No way you could get away with moving in open in China during 1942. You should be getting bombed back into the stone age. Flying Tigers are easily handled...especially over open non base terrain. Yes and no, it depends on the entire picture of what's going on in the war. The Japanese player's fighter squadrons in this case are stretched thin by having to defend multiple oil fields in the SRA area so I have been able to gain temporary air superiority over China with the seven non-Chinese fighter squadrons I deployed there. Japanese air ops in China are also constrained to some extent in the very early months by a dearth of air support squads. The Chinese also have the same problem, but they mostly only need to worry about servicing fighters while the Japanese need to service both fighters and large numbers of bombers if they want to have an effect on the ground.

castor troy -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (7/11/2021 4:10:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesertWolf101 quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe quote: ORIGINAL: GetAssista I'm divided wrt those early war Chinese offensives. On the one hand you can do some damage to Jap LCUs, on the other you are running on borrowed supply that would be sorely needed later for defence and R&R. No way you could get away with moving in open in China during 1942. You should be getting bombed back into the stone age. Flying Tigers are easily handled...especially over open non base terrain. Yes and no, it depends on the entire picture of what's going on in the war. The Japanese player's fighter squadrons in this case are stretched thin by having to defend multiple oil fields in the SRA area so I have been able to gain temporary air superiority over China with the seven non-Chinese fighter squadrons I deployed there. Japanese air ops in China are also constrained to some extent in the very early months by a dearth of air support squads. The Chinese also have the same problem, but they mostly only need to worry about servicing fighters while the Japanese need to service both fighters and large numbers of bombers if they want to have an effect on the ground. yeah, it's only February, too early for the Japanese to have built up a good sized airforce in China and the needed airfields/airsupport near the front to employ the airforce. By about April/May at the latest the Japanese can field some 4-500 medium IJAAF bombers in China and enough fighters for air superiority, if the Japanese wants to and emphasis on it. Then everything gets trashed in clear terrain but 2x terrain modifier already negates much of it, 3 and 4x modifiers and you are totally safe of air attacks.

DesertWolf101 -> RE: Setting the Sun - DesertWolf 101 (A) vs Dutch_slith (J) (7/11/2021 4:37:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: castor troy quote: ORIGINAL: DesertWolf101 quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe quote: ORIGINAL: GetAssista I'm divided wrt those early war Chinese offensives. On the one hand you can do some damage to Jap LCUs, on the other you are running on borrowed supply that would be sorely needed later for defence and R&R. No way you could get away with moving in open in China during 1942. You should be getting bombed back into the stone age. Flying Tigers are easily handled...especially over open non base terrain. Yes and no, it depends on the entire picture of what's going on in the war. The Japanese player's fighter squadrons in this case are stretched thin by having to defend multiple oil fields in the SRA area so I have been able to gain temporary air superiority over China with the seven non-Chinese fighter squadrons I deployed there. Japanese air ops in China are also constrained to some extent in the very early months by a dearth of air support squads. The Chinese also have the same problem, but they mostly only need to worry about servicing fighters while the Japanese need to service both fighters and large numbers of bombers if they want to have an effect on the ground. yeah, it's only February, too early for the Japanese to have built up a good sized airforce in China and the needed airfields/airsupport near the front to employ the airforce. By about April/May at the latest the Japanese can field some 4-500 medium IJAAF bombers in China and enough fighters for air superiority, if the Japanese wants to and emphasis on it. Then everything gets trashed in clear terrain but 2x terrain modifier already negates much of it, 3 and 4x modifiers and you are totally safe of air attacks. Agreed. I think I have at most another month before Slith builds up the capacity to seize air supremacy in China, and that's if I am lucky. By then he will have both built up the airfields/airsupport needed and secured the SRA, thus largely freeing up his squadrons.

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