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M60A3TTS -> Soviet Southern Front T1 activation (8/3/2021 1:08:04 PM)

Does taking hexes south of Lvov but to the west of the city still trigger the Soviet Southern Front activation?

Or are the impacted hexes east of the city?

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Soviet Southern Front T1 activation (8/3/2021 1:21:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

Does taking hexes south of Lvov but to the west of the city still trigger the Soviet Southern Front activation?

Or are the impacted hexes east of the city?

[image]https://i.imgur.com/f8j9MWE.jpg[/image]


No. If you check out my BETA post AAR with Carlkay I show exactly where you can go to not activate the Southern Front. If you take the triangle that is on the Map and instead draw an arrow down and an arrow east in that hex you wont activate the Southern Front. Just note those hexes are "EXCLUSIVE" of the arrows pointing hex. BUT be careful with the arrow pointing South since some of those border hexes will trigger. But yeah, check out the BETA post if you can. Otherwise I can annotate a Snapshot and send it to you or post here.



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Soviet Southern Front T1 activation (8/3/2021 1:29:38 PM)

Anything past that Light Blue line will activate the Southern Front. Please realize that a ZOC over that blue line that takes a hex will activate but a ZOC that didn't flip a hex will not. At least that was the case in my BETA tests.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Soviet Southern Front T1 activation (8/3/2021 1:35:44 PM)

I advocated for this to be simpler in BETA but oh well. I am sure they were busy on much more important things :)



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Soviet Southern Front T1 activation (8/3/2021 1:36:12 PM)

Hopefully that helps.



AlbertN -> RE: Soviet Southern Front T1 activation (8/3/2021 2:37:33 PM)

It confirmed my thoughts and deductions.
So it surely helped me at least!



glenhope -> RE: Soviet Southern Front T1 activation (8/4/2021 12:27:51 AM)

This is mentioned in 2 places in the rules. In the original manual it said "south OR east" in both places. In the living manual one of the places now says "south AND east". It should say "south AND east" in both places.




carlkay58 -> RE: Soviet Southern Front T1 activation (8/4/2021 1:24:11 AM)

Yes, if BOTH hex coordinates > 187 you have activated the Southern Front on turn 1.



loki100 -> RE: Soviet Southern Front T1 activation (8/4/2021 7:41:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: glenhope

This is mentioned in 2 places in the rules. In the original manual it said "south OR east" in both places. In the living manual one of the places now says "south AND east". It should say "south AND east" in both places.




since we can't change the release text, no it unfortunately can't be the same in both places. One reason for the Living Manual and trying to make it as easy as possible to spot changes - most are patch related but a few relate to pre-release errors



glenhope -> RE: Soviet Southern Front T1 activation (8/4/2021 9:25:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: loki100


quote:

ORIGINAL: glenhope

This is mentioned in 2 places in the rules. In the original manual it said "south OR east" in both places. In the living manual one of the places now says "south AND east". It should say "south AND east" in both places.




since we can't change the release text, no it unfortunately can't be the same in both places. One reason for the Living Manual and trying to make it as easy as possible to spot changes - most are patch related but a few relate to pre-release errors


You've misread what I wrote. You CAN fix both places in the living manual! Specifically page 71 says "south AND east", while page 206 says "south OR east".



AlbertN -> RE: Soviet Southern Front T1 activation (8/4/2021 10:30:07 AM)

Sidetopic.

Soviets can reinforce the southern area in T1 even if the area itself is not activated.
In a game I've seen a hefty amount of armoured forces issued there, that troubled an amount the scarce Axis forces operating in the area in the first turns.



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