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ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

Well, I am going to buy me a new PC and I know there are very knowledgeable people here. So thanks in advance to everyone willing to help. Here are the 4 options:

1) CPU INTEL I7 10700K LGA 1200 (5,1 GHz?) - MSI GTX 1660TI VENTUS XS 6GB
2) CPU INTEL I9 10900KF LGA 1200 (5,30 GHz?) - MSI GTX 1660TI VENTUS XS 6GB
3) CPU INTEL I9 10900KF LGA 1200 (5,30 GHz?) - 8 GB ZOTAC NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070
4) AMD RYZEN 7 5700G BOX (4,6 GHz?) - 8 GB ZOTAC NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070


16 GB of RAM all of them.

NOT planning to play high end FPS games. I DO want a fast processor though. As example, I toyed (for the lulz, sharing with friends via whatsApp) with the Deep Fakes (AI new technology) and my current PC's speed was 4 GHz (very decent), my laptop Lenovo I7 Legion = 2,7GHz (much much more slower).

I too heard that the 3070 graphic card might be excesive, that I don't really need it. My amateurish (?) choice is perhaps 2).

Am I wrong? Ideas?

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ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

Well, I forgot I am into simulators. I guess I might need the 3070 after all. The I9 seems to be faster than the AMD therefore 3) is what I apparently need.

This is a computer store and the 4 options they offer to me. I am not remotely skilled enough to buy components and assemble this thing.

Money is not a problem (number 3: 1.900 €; funny thing AMD is the most expensive) and yes, there's the disrupted world's supply chains thing. Graphic card NOT available *right now*

Thanks again for the kind help. I agree I should buy the BEST thing I *can* afford.

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ORIGINAL: ncc1701e
Honestly, if you are in simulators like X-Plane 11 with an Oculus Quest VR headset, you must go for a 16 GB GPU card.

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ORIGINAL: Karri
[...] just make sure you pick other parts that can support future upgrades.

It's actually twice as important to check this if buying a package computer. They might sport the most expensive GPU and CPU, but the motherboard might be of older stock and so on.

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Comparing AMD and Intel
Specification Comparison

We have done a comparison between the i9-9900K and the Ryzen 3950X. The 3950X comes with 16 cores/32 Threads and is built for multi-tasking. It can also handle 4K gaming without any issues. It also has 64MB of cache and dual channel memory. It has a base-clock speed of 3.5 GHz and a boost speed of 4.7 GHz.

The i9-9900K has 8 cores and 16 Threads but offers better single-core performance. It has a base clock of 3.6 GHz and a boost speed of 5 GHz and consumes less power than the Ryzen one. Additionally, it also comes with integrated graphics as well.
Performance Comparison

Most of the intel processors come with integrated graphics, and as a result, you can even avoid buying a GPU. However, the performance level is very impressive. AMDs have less integrated CPU and GPU units. Regardless of whether you choose Intel or AMD, a good quality processor suitable for gaming and streaming will cost anywhere between 200 and 350 Dollars.

If you have a dedicated GPU, then the Intel processor will offer better performance over it’s AMD equivalent. This is due to the architecture of the CPU. The 9900K is arguably the strongest gaming CPU at the time of its release. The Ryzen 9 3590X can outperform all the i9 CPUs in multi-threaded applications and offers great gaming performance. If you are a hardcore gamer, go for the 9700K or 9900K. If you are interested in things other than gaming, opt for a high-end Ryzen processor.

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If you're looking for the best CPUs for Gaming or the best workstation CPU, there are only two choices to pick from – AMD and Intel. That fact has spawned an almost religious following for both camps, and the resulting AMD vs Intel flamewars, making it tricky to get unbiased advice about the best choice for your next processor. But in many cases, the answer is actually very clear. In fact, for most users, it's a blowout win in AMD's favor, as you can see in our CPU Benchmarks Hierarchy. That's an amazing reversal of fortunes for the chipmaker after it teetered on the edge of bankruptcy a mere four years ago, making its turnaround all the more impressive as it continues to upset the entrenched Intel after it enjoyed a decade of dominance.

This article covers the never-ending argument of AMD vs Intel desktop CPUs (we're not covering laptop or server chips). We judge the chips on seven criteria based on what you plan to do with your PC, pricing, performance, driver support, power consumption, and security, giving us a clear view of the state of the competition. We'll also discuss the lithographies and architectures that influence the moving goalposts. Overall, there's a clear winner, but which CPU brand you should buy depends mostly on what kind of features, price, and performance are important to you.

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

AMD vs Intel: Which CPUs Are Better in 2021?
By Paul Alcorn 23 days ago
We put AMD vs Intel in a battle of processor prowess.

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If you're looking for the best CPUs for Gaming or the best workstation CPU, there are only two choices to pick from – AMD and Intel.

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ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

AMD vs Intel: Which CPUs Are Better in 2021?
By Paul Alcorn 23 days ago
We put AMD vs Intel in a battle of processor prowess.

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If you're looking for the best CPUs for Gaming or the best workstation CPU, there are only two choices to pick from – AMD and Intel.

The real workstation CPU for 2021 is the new Apple M1 chip. My daughter came down in September with her new iPad Pro 13" (yep, dad paid for it) on which she basically moved all her video editing work. It is just stunning. I guess that a similar CPU paired with a GeForce 3090 GTX on PC would give photorealistic 3D games.

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
I was shopping in the Apple Store for a MacBook Pro. I learned that Apple has not figured out how to do 3D VR graphics and there is no app that can do a reasonably good job of compensating for that lack. The M1 chip will not help either. So if the OP wants to do VR flying sims he must stick with Intel or AMD (or by a used flight simulator from an airline) [:D]

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ORIGINAL: Kuokkanen

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
I was shopping in the Apple Store for a MacBook Pro. I learned that Apple has not figured out how to do 3D VR graphics and there is no app that can do a reasonably good job of compensating for that lack. The M1 chip will not help either. So if the OP wants to do VR flying sims he must stick with Intel or AMD (or by a used flight simulator from an airline) [:D]

I understand some Apple computers come with Intel processors. That is worthless without appropriate software though.

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ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns

I recently bought a new PC about 8-10 months ago. All I can say is the new systems run a lot hotter than the older ones did, so don't make the mistake I made. I bought the typical fan setup for the box and it was simply insufficient to keep the system cool when running graphic games like MechWarrior 5. Spend the cash up front to get the best fan cooling setup you can. The more airflow the better. I'm not sure if the trouble was with the CPU or the video card, but the heat built up fast whenever I ran a graphically intense game and my system would crash and reboot. Runs fine now with high airflow.

i9-10900KF CPU 3.70 GHz
GeForce RTX 3080

Jim

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ORIGINAL: TheFjordFox

I would just like to say that my 3070 has been problematic since day one. it's always 50 degrees or more at idle, the fans can not be turned off, and running paint will skyrocket the temperature, and hence, the fan speed.

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ORIGINAL: imaneanys54
If you are looking for a monitor I have the best suggestion for you. I've been using Alienware 25 AW2518Hf Monitor and it is one of the best monitors for fighting games. It has a 240Hz refresh rate and 1ms of response time. If you want to go with this I'm 100% sure you will not regret it.