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BDukes -> Red Tide Scenario 2 Feedback (10/21/2021 9:31:23 PM)
Another great opener. Scored an Average victory. Pushed the attack button about an hour early as I had a diesel in range of a CGN. I think the sub captain would have done it as the war order was out. That decision paid off as it allowed my final attack to drill Ike enough for the kill. Many tense moments throughout and then a flinch fest once my units started paying the price. Well done! I need to work on coordinating my attacks better. Might have spared a couple of my units. Two scenarios with Navy Fitters too. Awesome stuff[:D] Excited for the next one! Mike

DeHav -> RE: Red Tide Scenario 2 Feedback (10/22/2021 1:19:34 AM)
I quite enjoyed this one, although I didn’t actually have to do much given all the missions. The fight started 10 minutes early when a Viking attacked the Libyan sub - not sure if this was meant to happen but I enjoyed the chaos. My Fitters didn’t take off even though the mission was active and NATO hostile, not sure why but I had to attack manually. Also, I was poking around in the scenario editor afterwards and noticed there should have been a message for sinking the Eisenhower, but I didn’t get it (it was definitely sunk!)

HalfLifeExpert -> RE: Red Tide Scenario 2 Feedback (10/22/2021 1:31:19 AM)
I'm running my first playthrough of this scenario now. I'm loving the buildup. I don't play many scenarios from the Soviet perspective, and I really like this tension where: SPOILERS BELOW I get orders to attack NATO Forces at 1200Z, and as I'm anxiously waiting, alot of NATO Radars on land start lighting up.

HalfLifeExpert -> RE: Red Tide Scenario 2 Feedback (10/22/2021 2:10:41 AM)
Completed my first playthrough. I enjoyed it. Hostilities started about an hour early, I think it was my Charlie SSGN firing a SUBROC equivalent at an unidentified Submarine contact (later turned out to be as US SSN). Probably came from a 'Weapons Free' doctrine for that sub against Goblins. Part of me thinks that should be tweaked so the player has control over commencement of hostilities, but another part of me likes that uncertain possibility of the chaos of war taking over and starting things early. The instant hostilities started, I paused and manually allocated every weapon within range of USS Eisenhower to the carrier (the Backfires were on the way but nowhere near launch point). The aircraft In Libya hadn't launched yet. The Nadezhnyy was unfortunately within minimum Styx range, so I had her unload her guns on the Eisenhower. This caused some damaged before the DDG was crippled. All of the Sub-fired missiles were defeated, but the Backfires succeeded in crippling the carrier, which eventually sank, although I did not get points for Sinking the Eisenhower (This HAS to be a bug, as even crippling a US SuperCarrier is a major success for the Soviets) The Admiral Makarov groups succeeded in wiping out the Italian carrier group.

BlitzimX -> RE: Red Tide Scenario 2 Feedback (10/22/2021 6:58:04 AM)
I was a bit confused as a non English speaker because the side Briefing for this mission doesn't explicitly states how you are supposed to do your objective; I know you have to sink the taskgroups, but are you suppose to start hostilities by yourself, or do you wait for something? The instruction can be seen both ways. Didn't help that i didn't get any instruction or anything for a few hours in, so i just went it. Got obliterated of course, but i was still confused on what was the path in this scenario.

cdnice -> RE: Red Tide Scenario 2 Feedback (10/22/2021 2:48:43 PM)
You were supposed to wait. First set of orders has you shadowing and getting in place. Some orders come later on re an attack. Don't want to say too much to ruin it for you. I also got obliterated if it makes you feel any better. :) Looking forward to another go today. Fun scenarios so far!

gkenny -> RE: Red Tide Scenario 2 Feedback (10/22/2021 3:51:25 PM)
I just played through this mission last night, and noticed a few things: 1. The Backfires launched their strike as planned (although one pair decided to move 50nm past their plotted launch point and ended up running out of fuel on the way home) 2. The fitters did not auto launch despite their mission going active past 11:15. Not sure if intentional. 3. Sinking the IKE gave me no points (but sinking the Italian carrier/surface group did, as well as the other US surface ships), and therefore I didn't have enough points at the end of the scenario to move on to the next one despite nearly completely annihilating the US surface fleet and barely losing any of my own assets.

BDukes -> RE: Red Tide Scenario 2 Feedback (10/22/2021 4:38:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gkenny I just played through this mission last night, and noticed a few things: 1. The Backfires launched their strike as planned (although one pair decided to move 50nm past their plotted launch point and ended up running out of fuel on the way home) 2. The fitters did not auto launch despite their mission going active past 11:15. Not sure if intentional. 3. Sinking the IKE gave me no points (but sinking the Italian carrier/surface group did, as well as the other US surface ships), and therefore I didn't have enough points at the end of the scenario to move on to the next one despite nearly completely annihilating the US surface fleet and barely losing any of my own assets. This might explain my average score despite dropping the heavies. Mike

hellfish6 -> RE: Red Tide Scenario 2 Feedback (10/22/2021 6:18:49 PM)
My kill of the Ike didn't register, so I lost the scenario even with a score of 440 (most losses came after the US and Italians were pretty much done - I lost several aircraft and subs when I was running out the remaining time). Surely that should be enough to move on alone? Also, to get the Backfires to shoot I had to launch them and set their new homebase to Tripoli. Otherwise they were turning back to Crimea halfway across the Balkans.

Dimitris -> RE: Red Tide Scenario 2 Feedback (10/22/2021 8:18:18 PM)
Here is a copy of this scenario that should fix the scoring issue: https://drive.google.com/file/d/17SpdYf_8UqgH7sMTR50VhTt98d17o4la/view?usp=sharing Props to Brandon Johnson (Kushan) for the fix!

HalfLifeExpert -> RE: Red Tide Scenario 2 Feedback (10/23/2021 1:05:17 AM)
Success with 2nd attempt using the above file. Successfully sank the Eisenhower with the Backfires, and it immediately gave me a victory.

schweggy -> RE: Red Tide Scenario 2 Feedback (10/26/2021 10:12:32 PM)
Comrades... let us rejoice in the confusion of our enemy. While they run in circles we shall destroy them. Really. It was that easy. Close with the subs, launch the Backfires and have at it. SIDE: NATO =========================================================== LOSSES: ------------------------------- 1x A 5327 Stromboli 9x A-6E Intruder 24x A-7E Corsair II 4x AB.212 ASW [SH-212A] 1x AB.212 Colibri EW [SH-212A] 1x AOR 1 Wichita 1x C 551 Giuseppe Garibaldi 1x CVN 69 Dwight D. Eisenhower [Nimitz Class] 1x D 550 Audace 1x DD 963 Spruance [Baseline] 1x DDG 37 Farragut 3x E-2C Hawkeye Group 0 3x EA-6B Prowler ICAP II Baseline 16x F-14A Tomcat 1x FF 1040 Garcia 1x FF 1052 Knox 4x KA-6D Intruder 8x S-3A Viking 3x SH-2F Seasprite 6x SH-3H Sea King 5x SH-3H Sea King [ASH-3H] EXPENDITURES: ------------------ 26x 12.7mm/50 MG Burst [10 rnds] 32x 127mm/38 HE-PD [HiCap] 163x 127mm/54 HE-CVT [HiFrag] 5x 127mm/54 OTO Melara Compact HECVT 8x 20mm/85 Mk15 Phalanx Blk 0 Burst [200 rnds] 11x 40mm/70 Twin Breda Compact Burst [32 rnds] 16x 76mm/50 Twin HE Burst [2 rnds] 3x 76mm/62 Compact HE Burst [4 rnds] 1x AGM-45B Shrike [ARM] 16x AIM-54A Phoenix 9x AIM-7F Sparrow III 28x AN/SSQ-53A DIFAR 75x AN/SSQ-62A DICASS 22x Aspide 12x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges] 16x Mk171 RBOC Chaffstar Chaff 6x Mk182 SRBOC Chaff [Seduction] 1x Mk46 NEARTIP Mod 5 4x Otomat Mk1 12x Otomat Mk2 Mod I 4x RBOC HIRAM Flare 12x RGM-84C Harpoon IB 23x RIM-66C SM-2MR Blk I 16x RIM-67B SM-2ER Blk I 11x RIM-7E Sea Sparrow 8x RIM-7H Sea Sparrow 2x RUR-5A Mod 4 ASROC RTT [Mk46 Mod 5] 10x SCLAR Chaff 1x T Mk 6 Fanfare SIDE: Soviet Union =========================================================== LOSSES: ------------------------------- 1x BPK Kashin Mod [Pr.61M] 1x SSV Mayak [Pr.502, Intelligence Mod] 1x SSV Okean 2x Tu-16R Badger E EXPENDITURES: ------------------ 8x AK-100 100mm/70 Frag 2x AK-630 30mm/65 Gatling Burst [400 rnds] 6x AK-630M 30mm/65 Gatling Burst [400 rnds] 8x AK-726 76mm/60 Twin HE Burst [2 rnds] 24x AS-4 Kitchen A Mod 3 [Kh-22N ASM] 12x AS-9 Kyle [Kh-28] 2x Generic Chaff Salvo [4x Cartridges] 1x PK-2 Chaff [TSP-47] 31x RGB-NM-1 [Passive Omni] 8x SA-N-1b Goa [M-1M/P Volna-M/P, 4K91 / V-601] 24x SA-N-4b Gecko [9M33M3] 42x SA-N-7 Gadfly [9M38] 8x SS-N-22 Sunburn [P-80 Zubr] 6x SS-N-2c Improved Styx [P-15M] 8x SS-N-3a Shaddock [P-6, ASM] 8x SS-N-9 Siren [P-120 Malakhit] SIDE: Libya =========================================================== LOSSES: ------------------------------- 1x 211 Dat Assawari [Vosper Mk7] 1x 416 Ziyad [Pr.1234E Nanuchka II] 1x S 311 Al Badr [PL-641 Foxtrot] EXPENDITURES: ------------------ 4x 114mm/55 Mk8 HE(MP) HE 2x 40mm/70 Single Bofors Burst [4 rnds] 25x AK-725 57mm/80 Twin HE Burst [6 rnds] 2x Aspide 4x Otomat Mk2 Mod I 2x PK-16 Chaff [TSP-60U] 17x SA-5c Gammon [5V28M5] 2x SAET-60M WH 3x SA-N-4b Gecko [9M33M3] 4x SS-N-2c Improved Styx [P-15M] SIDE: Neutral Shipping =========================================================== LOSSES: ------------------------------- 1x Civilian Dhow [15m] EXPENDITURES: ------------------ SIDE: Biological =========================================================== LOSSES: ------------------------------- EXPENDITURES: ------------------

stolowski -> RE: Red Tide Scenario 2 Feedback (11/7/2021 4:13:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dimitris Here is a copy of this scenario that should fix the scoring issue: https://drive.google.com/file/d/17SpdYf_8UqgH7sMTR50VhTt98d17o4la/view?usp=sharing Props to Brandon Johnson (Kushan) for the fix! Has this fix been rolled out to the Steam version, or does it still need to be applied manually?

Gunner98 -> RE: Red Tide Scenario 2 Feedback (12/11/2021 2:59:29 PM)
Great scenario, Major victory, sank both carriers, the rest of the Italian TG, USS Savannah, the two Cruisers and a couple escorts. At 855 points I got a Major victory but just missed on a Triumph. USS Butte was 54% damaged, on fire & flooding, the Spruence was 37% damaged with severe fires and the Elmer Montgomery was slightly damaged - so even if both of the heavily damaged ships sink I miss by 5 points! An air attack on the KUG sank a Krivak and damaged the Sov (87% flood & fire) - that cost me the Triumph I'm sure... Really good fun - need to work out how to keep more of the Su-17s alive. Subs did great until they died On to STANAVFORLANT SIDE: NATO =========================================================== LOSSES: ------------------------------- 1x A 5327 Stromboli 8x A-6E Intruder 21x A-7E Corsair II 9x AB.212 ASW [SH-212A] 2x AB.212 Colibri EW [SH-212A] 1x AOR 1 Wichita 1x C 551 Giuseppe Garibaldi 1x CG 27 Josephus Daniels [Belknap] 1x CGN 42 Virginia [Mk26] 1x CVN 69 Dwight D. Eisenhower [Nimitz Class] 1x D 550 Audace 1x DDG 2 Charles F. Adams 1x DDG 37 Farragut 3x E-2C Hawkeye Group 0 3x EA-6B Prowler ICAP II Baseline 1x F 564 Lupo 1x F 570 Maestrale 16x F-14A Tomcat 1x FF 1040 Garcia 3x KA-6D Intruder 8x S-3A Viking 5x SH-2F Seasprite 6x SH-3H Sea King 6x SH-3H Sea King [ASH-3H] SIDE: Soviet Union =========================================================== LOSSES: ------------------------------- 1x BPK Kashin Mod [Pr.61M] 1x Ka-27PL Helix A 1x PL-641 Foxtrot 1x PLARK-670M Charlie II [Skat-M] 1x SKR Krivak II [Pr.1135M Burevestnik-M] 1x SSV Mayak [Pr.502, Intelligence Mod] 1x SSV Okean 8x Su-17M-3 Fitter H 3x Tu-16R Badger E

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