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gpcgarag -> ASW ? (11/2/2021 7:05:15 PM)

Can some of the more expirenced Players please give me some Advice?

-DDs and ASW Tech is somewhat clear (ASW Tec Lvl and U-Boat Tec Lvl should be on pair? )
-Escord Carriers is also somewhat clear
-Marine Bombers is also somewhat clear
-Torpedo Boats ????? need answers on them please
-Why even if going step by step with DDs they are suprise attacked when you go near a U-boot?


Thanks in advance






Elessar2 -> RE: ASW ? (11/3/2021 12:11:24 AM)

Torpedo Boats are modeled strangely in the vanilla scenarios. They have a higher Sub Attack than fleet destroyers do, but a lower Sub Defense. Too slow to send out into the convoy lanes to try to find and sink subs. [If they are intended to model German S-boats and US PT-boats, well, those were most definitely NOT optimized for ASW warfare outside of a few maverick USN lt.'s who bolted depth charge racks onto the back of the things.]




EarlyDoors -> RE: ASW ? (11/3/2021 6:32:09 AM)

Step by step?
Spotting doesn’t work like that

On the first move, every unit uses it spotting
Steps after that do not


Both subs and destroyers are more effective when units run into them
It’s a waiting game….




firsteds -> RE: ASW ? (11/3/2021 10:21:31 AM)

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Torpedo Boats are modeled strangely in the vanilla scenarios. They have a higher Sub Attack than fleet destroyers do, but a lower Sub Defense. Too slow to send out into the convoy lanes to try to find and sink subs. [If they are intended to model German S-boats and US PT-boats, well, those were most definitely NOT optimized for ASW warfare outside of a few maverick USN lt.'s who bolted depth charge racks onto the back of the things.]


Agree MTBs are too slow for the open ocean. But torpedo boats have one very useful skill. They can make powerful attacks against subs and ships in port. So if a lightly damaged sub / ship retreats to port (Norway, France, Italy, NA) you can attack it with an MTB and do a lot of damage. Destroyers and cruisers can't do that. Many of the key ports are within MTB range in Europe. Not sure they have a big role to play in the Pacific because of the distances.




OldCrowBalthazor -> RE: ASW ? (11/4/2021 9:23:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: gpcgarag

Can some of the more expirenced Players please give me some Advice?

-DDs and ASW Tech is somewhat clear (ASW Tec Lvl and U-Boat Tec Lvl should be on pair? )
-Escord Carriers is also somewhat clear
-Marine Bombers is also somewhat clear
-Torpedo Boats ????? need answers on them please
-Why even if going step by step with DDs they are suprise attacked when you go near a U-boot?


Thanks in advance




When you are using your DD's (or any other vessel)..move a bit..then Deselect..look..Select..move..Deselect..rinse and repeat. This maybe what you are referring to 'step by step?'. This works when looking for surfaced U-boats at least and avoids ambushes. Its a bit of a 'twitch' skill. [:D]




gpcgarag -> RE: ASW ? (11/5/2021 5:58:53 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: OldCrowBalthazor


quote:

ORIGINAL: gpcgarag

Can some of the more expirenced Players please give me some Advice?

-DDs and ASW Tech is somewhat clear (ASW Tec Lvl and U-Boat Tec Lvl should be on pair? )
-Escord Carriers is also somewhat clear
-Marine Bombers is also somewhat clear
-Torpedo Boats ????? need answers on them please
-Why even if going step by step with DDs they are suprise attacked when you go near a U-boot?


Thanks in advance




When you are using your DD's (or any other vessel)..move a bit..then Deselect..look..Select..move..Deselect..rinse and repeat. This maybe what you are referring to 'step by step?'. This works when looking for surfaced U-boats at least and avoids ambushes. Its a bit of a 'twitch' skill. [:D]




I didnt mean to exploit, i was just curious how it works. In my currrent Games i get ambushed alot with my DDs and I think ill use them wrong.

But thanks to anybod giving me advice here




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