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Raverdave -> China offensive starts. (2/5/2005 8:49:10 AM)
A new offensive in China has been underway now for the last week, but Luskan has only caught wind of it in the last two turns. Surprise was lost when units moving to cut his LOC reached their objectives much earlier than had been planned. I must admitt that I am surprised that Luskan did not suspect anything when I first started using the B-25s in China, as they have been brought in to support the offensive, but also it is kinda hard to hide three armies marching towards Sian. The first objective is Sian and for this I have allocated three Chinese armies in an effort to reach a three to one ratio. I had originally allocated six Chinese armies for the job but this would have left my flanks wide open for a counter offensive. The speed and size of Luskan's response will dictate where and when the second Chinese offensive will start. [image]local://upfiles/5619/Qo401565534.jpg[/image]

WiTP_Dude -> RE: China offensive starts. (2/5/2005 8:54:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Raverdave The first objective is Sian and for this I have allocated three Chinese armies in an effort to reach a three to one ratio. I had originally allocated six Chinese armies for the job but this would have left my flanks wide open for a counter offensive. The speed and size of Luskan's response will dictate where and when the second Chinese offensive will start. What do you mean by "army"? Two, four, or six corps? You will need a lot of them for each Japanese division that is there. Obviously the strength and supply of the corps is important too. PS: How did you get Chinese units so far behind enemy lines at Peking? Wierd.

Raverdave -> RE: China offensive starts. (2/5/2005 9:04:26 AM)
Army to me means three corps made up of three Divisons..............................give or take[;)] That unit near Peking has been flapping around since December'41. Luskan is a bit lazy when it comes to cleaning house.

Luskan -> RE: China offensive starts. (2/6/2005 7:52:48 AM)
Perhaps - but starvation works just as well as bullets over a long time frame. As for Sian - I'm relieved that I've packed 8 divisions, arty, eng and base force in there now. I'm safe. I haven't been able to get the 6+ divisions at Lanchow and Kungchang south to the fight - I've only dispatched a single mixed brigade to clear the road (I can't afford to let them leave hteir size 9 forts for Sian because Raver will use his northernmost troops to try and attack from up there. Can't afford to loose it so . . . The reason i won the race is because my troops arrived in rag tag formation. Raver's are marching together to all arrive together. Gives me an edge, although he is winning the bombing campaign so far. That'll change when my units are off the road and in the city. As for the north, Raver conducted his first amphibious op last turn at took Attu from me (I had no one there). I sent in my entire northern fleet (2 destroyers) and hit his invasion fleet as they unloaded, and sunk 3 or 4 pgs, and a MSW although the transports escaped. unfortunately they retired to Kittu (my manned base) in time for Raver's 2 BBs to show up. I've got 4 BBs offline at the moment, and even if I had them all in working order, I'd never be able to spare them for a theatre that is so far away (from japan - with nothing but empty ocean imbetween) and so far away from the vital things I have to protect. I wish I had the sort of firepower available to devote two BBs up there but I can't. My crazy suicidal commander lead the northern fleet at Raver's BBs, surprised them, and put in a dozen small shell hits on the two bbs. At this point the allies recovered from their surprise (they weren't really in a rush) and sank 1 of my precious dds (I'm running out of them) and crippled the other. They'll return to their base, rearm and come back and finish the job on their next bombardment. Either that or she sinks at sea. Discretion would have served me MUCH better this turn, although commnder what's his face is too dead to realise it. I was never really serious about the aleutians, but it still stings to have a small inf unit trapped up there, getting bombarded and about to be invaded and there isn't bugger all I can do about it.

Raverdave -> RE: China offensive starts. (2/6/2005 9:52:36 AM)
The pressure is now being applied to Luskan, he is like the frog sitting the pot of water which is being heated up. China will soon explode in his face, and with my operations to re-take the aleutians, he will soon find him self very very busy. Just to add some more heat to the pot, I have ordered my CVs to attck a certain spot, which is a weak link in his Island defences. This small operation will cover a further landing on another Island. Luskan is in for a hard time. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/11/42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 92,34 Japanese Ships DD Kazegumo, Shell hits 27, and is sunk[:D] He can ill afford to loose DDs DD Makinami, Shell hits 7, on fire Allied Ships BB Nevada, Shell hits 4 BB Oklahoma, Shell hits 2 DD Downes DD Dewey DD MacDonough, Shell hits 2 DD Dale -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Attu Island, at 92,34 Allied Ships DD Dale DD Dewey DD Downes BB Oklahoma BB Nevada Japanese ground losses: 76 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Hanoi , at 36,37 Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 3 Allied aircraft B-24D Liberator x 38 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Ki-21 Sally: 23 destroyed, 25 damaged Allied aircraft losses B-24D Liberator: 5 destroyed, 23 damaged Japanese ground losses: 22 casualties reported Airbase hits 6 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 12 Aircraft Attacking: 25 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet 11 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Lanchow , at 45,25 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 9 Allied aircraft P-40E Warhawk x 21 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 8 destroyed, 1 damaged[:D] That cleared out THAT little nest Allied aircraft losses P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 39th Division, at 48,30 Allied aircraft Wellington III x 23 B-25C Mitchell x 111 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 461 casualties reported Guns lost 17 Vehicles lost 1 Aircraft Attacking: 6 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 14 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 16 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 25 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 5 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 13 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet

Luskan -> RE: China offensive starts. (2/7/2005 1:04:37 PM)
transports racing into the north to evac. 40000 hits. All up I think all our AARs may have had 100k between them.

Raverdave -> RE: China offensive starts. (2/8/2005 12:49:28 PM)
Well Luskan had his head handed to him on a plate with an air attack on Kweiyang that went terribly wrong. 107 Sallys were escorted by only three Zeros and the Spitfires had a field day taking 30 jap aircraft down for no losses. China is becoming one giant tar-baby for Luskan. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/14/42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35 Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 3 Ki-21 Sally x 107 Allied aircraft Spitfire Vb x 24 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 2 destroyed Ki-21 Sally: 60 destroyed, 22 damaged Allied aircraft losses Spitfire Vb: 4 destroyed, 6 damaged Allied ground losses: 72 casualties reported Airbase hits 13 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 57 Aircraft Attacking: 6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 10 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 14 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 1 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Lanchow , at 45,25 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 8 Allied aircraft P-40E Warhawk x 23 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 16th Mixed Brigade, at 46,27 Allied aircraft Wellington III x 52 B-25C Mitchell x 122 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 352 casualties reported Guns lost 6 Aircraft Attacking: 7 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 4 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 18 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 30 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 13 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 10 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 4 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 4 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 6 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet

Luskan -> RE: China offensive starts. (2/10/2005 10:35:31 AM)
[8\|] Considering I started that turn with 48 sallies to launch at Raver, I find it a little distressing to see his numbers out so far. My version is more like this:Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35 Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 3 Ki-21 Sally x 38 Allied aircraft Spitfire Vb x 27 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 2 destroyed Ki-21 Sally: 48 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses Spitfire Vb: 8 damaged Especially since I only lost 12 in the Intel report ;) Still not good, but not really noteworthy compared to what had been happening at Rangoon.

Raverdave -> RE: China offensive starts. (2/10/2005 11:22:50 AM)
Regardless, it still means the samething.....you got slapped[:D]

Oliver Heindorf -> RE: China offensive starts. (2/10/2005 10:07:01 PM)
those spits are a monster eating japs.

Luskan -> Payback is a Bitch!!!! (2/12/2005 2:35:17 AM)
MWHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Email problems are keeping turn rate slow, but this turn finally went through to Raver without bloody well bouncing back. And it was SUCH a good turn. [:D][:D][:D] Two things of note. 1. Raver's advance on Sian in China - poorly disciplined. 2 chinese units arrived over a turn before the rest of the army. I smacked them as you will see in the combat report. 2. I raced my refitting CV division (not really a division) from their repair births up north as soon as I could. Raver had 2 old, fat slow bbs operating up there causing much havoc. Cost me a dd and more than a few troops in an area I DO have plenty of air superiority and short supply lines. He never saw them coming and the CAP . . . well they hadn't seen any action so far this war and it showed. Big time. Small CV strike - not really decisive, but big time payback for Kirishima - who is still afloat. Nevada is ALREADY on the sunk ship list. By the time Raver gets some firepower up north, my boys will be long gone under the watched eye of about 700 land based aircraft watching the northern approaches. Enjoy - because I really really really did. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/15/42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 16th Mixed Brigade, at 46,27 Allied aircraft Wellington III x 45 B-25C Mitchell x 103 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 268 casualties reported Guns lost 9 Aircraft Attacking: 6 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 6 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 4 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 18 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 22 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 25 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 5 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 13 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 6 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amchitka Island at 96,36 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 32 D3A Val x 27 B5N Kate x 33 Allied aircraft P-40E Warhawk x 16 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed D3A Val: 4 destroyed, 5 damaged B5N Kate: 2 destroyed, 12 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-40E Warhawk: 17 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied Ships BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1 BB Nevada, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 7 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Sian Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 189835 troops, 2183 guns, 59 vehicles Defending force 9265 troops, 64 guns, 0 vehicles Japanese assault odds: 4452 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 123 casualties reported Guns lost 5 Allied ground losses: 2596 casualties reported Guns lost 40 Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Grotius -> RE: Payback is a Bitch!!!! (2/12/2005 8:31:28 AM)
Cool, a carrier strike in Alaska! Well done.

Raverdave -> Timing is everything (2/12/2005 10:55:02 AM)
Timing is everything, and right across the whole map, mine has been off. First to the CV attack in the north, well i was expecting it, but not that turn ! I had already decided to remove my bombardment group back east as I just knew that Luskan would dash in with a quick strike. But the bombardment TF lost a day refueling, the PBYs didn't spot them soon enough and the fighter cover was lack-luster. Battles are not won by the best general, they are won by he whom makes the least mistakes. China, well trying to co ordinate some 250,000 chinese troops is not easy, there always seems to be the odd one unit commander whom wishes to race forward, and at Sian there were two such units. However it may be a blessing, as I now know the true strength of Luskan's troops, and as a result of crunching the numbers have decided not to go ahead with the assult. A pity as I am sure that if I had been faster, I could have taken the place, as it is Luskan won the race to reinforce Sian, so there is little to gain for me in wasting troops. I still have a couple of other (small) offensive operations on the go, but until my CV have finished their re-fits, I am not really going to do much for the next 2 months.

Luskan -> RE: Timing is everything (2/13/2005 1:21:08 AM)
liar. He's already got units steaming north 5 hexes from kendari. Adm Yamada smoked another DD and AK up north this turn too.

Raverdave -> RE: Timing is everything (2/13/2005 10:15:07 AM)
I said that I was not going to do much which is a lot different to doing nothing.

Luskan -> RE: Timing is everything (2/16/2005 10:32:33 AM)
Well I still have email woes but got a turn off. it was brilliant by the way. Raver's surface combat group tried to hit Kendari. Mistake (although they didn't seem to even notice the uber minefield much less hit any mines) for Raver. Up north Raver scattered his considerable assets in an attempt to escape my cvs. Another mistake, as my little raids of 10 and 11 planes each picked off juicy target after target. Yamada is being promoted as soon as he gets back to Japan - which unfortunately will have to be soon for three reasons: 1. Doesn't do to sit your cvs where the enemy can see them and stay there for more than 3 turns (it has been 3 turns now - is a 5 turn trip from pearl for any allied cvs - although I knew they were a lot furtther south than pearl - I've had some watchdogs out for them in any case. 2. My little cvs are running out of mission points, and 3. they need to do some refitting - since that was the reason they were originally that far north. The 2 cvs that have already been refitted have been ordered to resume their original assignments with my on station cv forces. In 3 turns of work up north, Yamada has lost 11 val and kates (9 pilots lost), while he has sunk 1 BB, 1 DD 4 MSW 2 SC 2 AK 1 AO and 2 AVD confirmed, and damaged countless others. Raver lost a few CLs and a CA south of Kendari when my betties launched too. Expensive for him. Enjoy. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/17/42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Kendari at 33,71 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses C.XI-W: 4 destroyed Japanese Ships CA Myoko, Shell hits 2 CA Haguro, Shell hits 6, on fire CA Nachi, Shell hits 1 CA Aoba, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage CL Nagara, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Tokitsukaze DD Asashio DD Michishio, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Asagumo DD Murasame, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Harusame, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Yamakaze DD Kawakaze DD Umikaze DD Hatsushima DD Wakaba DD Shinonome DD Shirayuki DD Hatsuyuki DD Shikinami DD Ayanami DD Yuzuki DD Shiokaze, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Kari Allied Ships CA Houston, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage CA Australia CA Canberra, Shell hits 9, on fire CL Java, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk CL Tromp, Shell hits 7, on fire CL Perth, Shell hits 1 CL Hobart, Shell hits 1 CL Adelaide, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CL Dragon, Shell hits 1 CL Durban, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 49,47 Japanese Ships PC Ch 9 PC Ch 8 PC Showa Maru #5 PC Showa Maru #3 PC Shonan Maru #7 PC Shonan Maru #6 PC Sonan Maru #6 PC Gamitsu Maru #1 PG Zuiko Maru PG Saiko Maru PG Magan Maru PG Koei Maru PG Keijo Maru PG Edo Maru PG Chosa Maru PG Hashidate MSW Tama Maru #2 MSW Ranzan Maru MSW Fukeui Maru #7 MSW Atsu Maru MSW Asahi Maru MSW Wa 2 MSW Wa 1 Allied Ships SS Flying Fish -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 49,47 Japanese Ships PG Magan Maru PC Ch 9 PC Ch 8 PC Showa Maru #5 PC Showa Maru #3 PC Shonan Maru #7 PC Shonan Maru #6 PC Sonan Maru #6 PC Gamitsu Maru #1 PG Zuiko Maru PG Saiko Maru PG Koei Maru PG Keijo Maru PG Edo Maru PG Chosa Maru PG Hashidate MSW Tama Maru #2 MSW Ranzan Maru MSW Fukeui Maru #7 MSW Atsu Maru MSW Asahi Maru MSW Wa 2 MSW Wa 1 Allied Ships SS Flying Fish, hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Sian , at 47,29 Allied aircraft Wellington III x 44 B-25C Mitchell x 76 Allied aircraft losses Wellington III: 1 damaged B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged Oil hits 20 Aircraft Attacking: 4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 15 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet 14 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet 9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 10 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet 13 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet 12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet 3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35 Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 21 Ki-21 Sally x 55 Allied aircraft Spitfire Vb x 14 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 4 destroyed Ki-21 Sally: 10 destroyed, 5 damaged Allied aircraft losses Spitfire Vb: 14 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 109 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 21 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 48 Aircraft Attacking: 10 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 14 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 1 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Lanchow , at 45,25 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 6 Allied aircraft P-40E Warhawk x 23 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 5 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 238 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Japanese Ships DD Hokaze, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Japanese ground losses: 192 casualties reported Guns lost 5 Port hits 5 Port fuel hits 1 Port supply hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 13 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 20 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 17 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 23 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 27 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 16 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 11 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet 2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 35000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 34,76 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 20 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 16 damaged Allied Ships CA Australia, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CL Perth, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage CL Hobart, Torpedo hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 33,73 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 5 G4M1 Betty x 3 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged Allied Ships CA Houston, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amchitka Island at 96,36 Japanese aircraft D3A Val x 19 B5N Kate x 13 Japanese aircraft losses D3A Val: 1 damaged Allied Ships AVD Chincoteague, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AVD Williamson Aircraft Attacking: 1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amchitka Island at 96,36 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 46 D3A Val x 46 B5N Kate x 24 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AO Brazos, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage MSW Oriole, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage SC SC-521, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage SC SC-522, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 34,76 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 3 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged Allied Ships CL Hobart Aircraft Attacking: 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amchitka Island at 96,36 Japanese aircraft B5N Kate x 10 Japanese aircraft losses B5N Kate: 3 damaged Allied Ships AK Wilhelmina, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amchitka Island at 96,36 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 41 D3A Val x 23 Japanese aircraft losses D3A Val: 1 damaged Allied Ships AVD Casco, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 5 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 34,74 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 5 G4M1 Betty x 4 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged Allied Ships CA Canberra, Torpedo hits 1, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amchitka Island at 96,36 Japanese aircraft D3A Val x 20 No Japanese losses Allied Ships MSW Outarde, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amchitka Island at 96,36 Japanese aircraft B5N Kate x 11 No Japanese losses Allied Ships MSW Ungava, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 50,31 Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 33021 troops, 446 guns, 7 vehicles Defending force 324 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles Japanese assault odds: 2374 to 1 Allied ground losses: 119 casualties reported Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Capt. Harlock -> RE: Timing is everything (2/16/2005 10:22:44 PM)
quote: Allied Ships CA Houston, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage CA Australia CA Canberra, Shell hits 9, on fire CL Java, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk CL Tromp, Shell hits 7, on fire CL Perth, Shell hits 1 CL Hobart, Shell hits 1 CL Adelaide, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CL Dragon, Shell hits 1 CL Durban, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Uh, Raver, shouldn't you have sent along some DD's...?

Luskan -> RE: Timing is everything (2/17/2005 10:14:56 AM)
He forgot about the new sending DDs in bombardment groups and ordering the dds not to take part in the bombardment (new in the last patch or so). Another good turn as I display my mastery of the mid ocean intercept. Yamato and her escorts were not at Kendari last turn - you know this because they weren't in the fighting (they could have been in port I suppose, since Raver's little bombardment gorup never actually fired on the base but that is another story). This turn they intercepted the damaged Canberra in the dark of night and Yamato let the escorts beat at her for practise before ending it all with 3 16 inch shell hits. Awesome. That is 2 CAs this crazy episode at kendari has cost Raver plus another 3 or so damaged. Then during the day they steamed 4 hexes south at full speed and caught the Thracian all alone in the middle of the ocean. Outranged by quite a ways, Thracian never stood a chance either. As Admiral Yamada retired in the north he smacked another couple of AVDs and AKs to death, as well as ensuring Brazos didn't make it. Very lucrative as well. Enjoy. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/18/42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat at 34,76 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses SOC-3 Seagull: 2 destroyed Japanese Ships BB Yamato CA Myoko CA Nachi DD Tokitsukaze DD Asashio DD Asagumo DD Yamakaze DD Kawakaze DD Umikaze DD Hatsushima DD Wakaba DD Ariake DD Shinonome DD Shirayuki DD Hatsuyuki DD Shikinami DD Ayanami DD Yuzuki DD Hayabusa DD Sagi DD Kari DD Kiji DD Kamo Allied Ships CA Canberra, Shell hits 95, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Sian , at 47,29 Allied aircraft Wellington III x 53 B-25C Mitchell x 99 Allied aircraft losses Wellington III: 3 damaged B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged Heavy Industry hits 8 Aircraft Attacking: 9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 8 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 27 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet 14 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet 16 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet 6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet 6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet 18 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet 9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet 3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Lanchow , at 45,25 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 6 Allied aircraft P-40E Warhawk x 24 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 33,75 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 5 G4M1 Betty x 3 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged Allied Ships CL Durban, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 96,34 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 45 D3A Val x 46 B5N Kate x 7 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Thomas Nelson, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Juan Cabrillo, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amchitka Island at 96,36 Japanese aircraft D3A Val x 17 B5N Kate x 25 Allied aircraft P-40E Warhawk x 3 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Allied Ships AVD Casco, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AVD Mackinac, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amchitka Island at 96,36 Japanese aircraft B5N Kate x 12 Allied aircraft P-40E Warhawk x 3 Japanese aircraft losses B5N Kate: 2 damaged Allied Ships AO Brazos, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat at 35,82 Japanese Ships BB Yamato CA Myoko CA Nachi DD Tokitsukaze DD Asashio DD Asagumo DD Yamakaze DD Kawakaze DD Umikaze DD Hatsushima DD Wakaba DD Ariake DD Shinonome DD Shirayuki DD Hatsuyuki DD Shikinami DD Ayanami DD Yuzuki DD Hayabusa DD Sagi DD Kari DD Kiji DD Kamo Allied Ships DD Thracian, Shell hits 2, and is sunk Allied ground losses: 242 casualties reported Guns lost 2

Oliver Heindorf -> RE: Timing is everything (2/17/2005 11:30:05 PM)
Rave's been tooo on the offensive in the game ?

Luskan -> RE: Timing is everything (2/18/2005 10:01:44 AM)
Far too early for the allies to try this stuff. Wait for 43 when you can't loose.

Luskan -> RE: Timing is everything (2/18/2005 10:21:15 AM)
Not a good turn to be an allied CL!!! I lost 10 betties this turn as my level bombers launched at extremely long ranges to strike at Raver's surface fleet(s). Off Timor my betties caught the 2 CLs Adelaide and Durban and sank them, while betties from Truk found the Boise at anchor on the northern shore of PNG under some awrhawks (which culled a few of my betties on the way in) and smacked a torp into her. 2 sunk, 1 damaged, all in all another good turn for me in a row.

Raverdave -> RE: Timing is everything (2/18/2005 10:35:54 PM)
What a moron ! The Adelaide and Durban were in serious trouble anyway, having suffered damage from the raid on Kendari, and it was touch and go that they would be able to make it back to Oz, so no real suprise there. Boise has been hit by a torp, but she is steaming under her own power for light repairs in PM. And as for waiting till '43 to attack, well why would you? The fact is that you are such a piss-poor player that it is worth the odd risk here and there.[;)]

Raverdave -> RE: Timing is everything (2/18/2005 10:40:04 PM)
I may have been somewhat embarrased at sea these last few turns, but I am proving to be a master of the airwar, in the last turn Luskan lost a large number of his evil torp bombers. Just as well that Luskna's production is running at 100% cpacity because he is going to need it! AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/19/42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Lanchow , at 45,25 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 4 Allied aircraft P-40E Warhawk x 22 I-153c x 12 SB-2c x 24 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses I-153c: 2 destroyed SB-2c: 1 damaged Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 6 Aircraft Attacking: 4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet 6 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet 4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet 4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet 3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet 3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Dobodura at 55,91 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 9 Allied aircraft Kittyhawk I x 5 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged Allied Ships CA Salt Lake City Aircraft Attacking: 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Wetar Island at 32,76 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 13 No Japanese losses Allied Ships CL Adelaide, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CL Durban, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 1 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Dobodura at 55,91 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 26 Allied aircraft Kittyhawk I x 5 P-40E Warhawk x 2 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 18 destroyed, 10 damaged Allied aircraft losses Kittyhawk I: 2 damaged Allied Ships CL Boise, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CA Salt Lake City DD Gridley CL Leander DD Piet Hein Aircraft Attacking: 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Dobodura at 55,91 Japanese Ships SS RO-61, hits 6, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships DD Piet Hein DD Tjerk Hiddes DD Whipple DD Peary DD Bulmer

Raverdave -> RE: Timing is everything (2/23/2005 11:29:54 AM)
Well I wish that I had something to report, but the truth be told it is very very quite, as the combat report shows. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/23/42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Lanchow , at 45,25 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 3 Allied aircraft P-40E Warhawk x 24 I-153c x 12 SB-2c x 24 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses I-153c: 4 destroyed SB-2c: 4 damaged Japanese ground losses: 10 casualties reported Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 3 Aircraft Attacking: 6 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet 6 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet 3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet 3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet 3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet 3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet

Luskan -> RE: China offensive starts. (2/26/2005 3:40:41 PM)
Very quiet. Raver did a nuisance sub launched raid at an empty base at Iwo Jima. No biggie, landed 1000 troops 2 days later and culled 400 of his for no real loss. I think that Raver may have spotted two out of my 4 cv divisions on station last turn - so I've re oriented my defence network - and all cv divisions are moving to new forward bases/positions. In the north things have quietened down now that Admiral Yamata has returned home to a hero's welcome - and then had his fleet divided into 3 and sent off to other cv divisions. Fortunately i'm starting to churn enough tonnage out of my shipyards to start replacing my dd losses, and actually increase on the amount of merchant shipping to what I started the game with. Raver keeps bombing Rabaul and it costs him a few b17s every turn. The base is repaired 1 turn later and my little zero squadron there keeps launching at them. Good exp for the once rgeen squadron. They're now veterans with green tinges. Hyuga and Ise arrived at their new station last turn after having their in dock rotation to repair sys damage. This allows my two biggest repair yards to concentrate on the Kirishima (going to be a long one) and Hiei - who suffered damage in a thunderstorm previously. I have a plan - operation albatross - in the making. Conferring with my "generals" (certain WITP players who wish to remain anonymous) as to the exact details. It is about wounding Raver's pride and forcing him off balance, as opposed to a vital war winning strike. It does involve sacrificing some hardware and troops however so I'm not 100% convinced yet.

Raverdave -> RE: China offensive starts. (2/27/2005 12:35:16 PM)
"I have a plan" Pfft ![8\|] Yeah right, might as well read tea-leaves as well.

Onime No Kyo -> RE: China offensive starts. (2/27/2005 1:28:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Raverdave "I have a plan" Pfft ![8\|] Yeah right, might as well read tea-leaves as well. Why does that remind me of Eddie Izzard...."I haff invented a manuuuver". [:)]

Luskan -> RE: China offensive starts. (2/28/2005 1:05:03 PM)
To be honest, this plan is gutsy, daring, full of aplomb and superbly designed . . . unfortunately I'm just not sure I'd get away with it.

Raverdave -> RE: China offensive starts. (2/28/2005 1:24:08 PM)
Well I am game if you are.......sounds like fun.[:D]

Raverdave -> RE: China offensive starts. (3/4/2005 2:11:23 PM)
Sorry guys but there is still nothing to report. We are now at 30/9/42 and both sides seem to be doing little except waiting and plotting and digging and supplying. Really boring stuff. But I do get some new shiney carriers in the next three months [8D]

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