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siRkid -> The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 5:34:02 AM)

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Day Time Surface Combat at 81,91

Japanese Ships
CV Akagi, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
CV Kaga, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CV Hiryu
CV Soryu
CVL Shoho
CS Chitose
CA Chikuma
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
CA Aoba
CA Furutaka
CA Kako
CL Nagara
DD Akigumo
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Amatsukaze
DD Oboro
DD Uzuki
DD Kikuzuki
DD Yuzuki

Allied Ships
PT PT-44
PT PT-45, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT PT-46
PT PT-47
PT PT-48

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McNaughton -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 5:39:04 AM)

Whomever was in command of that IJN TF should be fired. [:D]




VI66_slith -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 5:40:50 AM)

Wow! Those were the only hits scored on your PT force? Holy PT BOAT! [img]http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/_950/captain.gif[/img]




Primal Fury -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 5:41:01 AM)

Well, if this is not proof that PT boats are mis-modeled, I don't know what is. There's no way they could touch this TF during daylight. Still, congratulations on damaging Akagi.

Fury




Tanaka -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 5:44:44 AM)

pt boats are way overpowered in this game [X(]




siRkid -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 5:46:46 AM)

Has anyone seen my can of worms? I think I've dropped it someplace.[X(]




WiTP_Dude -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 5:48:33 AM)

This is absurd... time to rework the code a bit.




Drongo -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 5:49:21 AM)

Now you've done it Kid.




Fallschirmjager -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 5:51:10 AM)

Looks like daytime too. Thats just insane. I could see maybe getting a suprise torpedo attack during the night. But with those DD's and CL's no way the PT's would even get close.




SunDevil_MatrixForum -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 5:53:59 AM)

Well chalk up a victory for Japan. When the devs get done with the changes to the PT boats, their only use will be for fishing. [:)]




Primal Fury -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 5:57:12 AM)

Limiting the range of torpedos on PT's to 1000 or 2000 yds would make them have to survive gunfire for quite a while before getting close enough to attack. But they still might get lucky at night.

Fury




incbob -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 6:02:54 AM)

Of course you must understand:

These are the new SUPER STEALTH INVISIBLE KILLER PT Boats. :)




Fallschirmjager -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 6:06:59 AM)

MK 9 Torpedos are listed with a range of 22,000 feet outranging most guns. But how the hell often would you hit anything with them? It would take half the day to cover that range.




MadDawg -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 6:18:55 AM)

I think that the main problem here is that the combined firepower of 8 destroyers, 1 light cruiser, 7 heavy cruisers and 6 carriers managed to hit one PT boat once during a daying attack. This seems to be similar to the problem to when we see a group of warships attacking a group of unloading AP's and only hitting 2-3 ships whilst the remaining ones contine to unload.

Dawg




Nikademus -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 6:21:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: McNaughton

Whomever was in command of that IJN TF should be fired. [:D]


HEY! [sm=00000036.gif]




JohnK -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 6:22:11 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SunDevil

Well chalk up a victory for Japan. When the devs get done with the changes to the PT boats, their only use will be for fishing. [:)]


For whatever reason people seem to have an emotional affectionate feeling towards PT boats, but, in reality, they didn't accomplish all THAT much in the war, and I suspect the same money spent on destroyers or DEs would have been a better expenditure of money.




Tenzan -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 6:31:42 AM)

wow-Is that reproducable?

Looks like PT boats 'slipped through the cracks' code-wise...




SunDevil_MatrixForum -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 6:31:46 AM)

I am not that emotionally attached to them, just thought I would play devil's advocate. :) I agree that these results should not of happened, and also concur that the routine to determine what ships get attacked in a naval conflict needs to be looked at again.




JohnK -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 6:58:47 AM)

I was speaking more of, well, the country as a whole, not you specifically :-)




von Murrin -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 6:59:17 AM)

I'd like to see something like this happen again before we nerf the PT's. I haven't see wonky results from either PT's OR subs. My thinking is that Kid should've opted to play the lottery over WitP tonight.[;)]




VI66_slith -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 7:06:11 AM)

quote:

Of course you must understand:

These are the new SUPER STEALTH INVISIBLE KILLER PT Boats. :)

With CV tracking torpedoes! These will not hit any other ship type! [X(]




Cap Mandrake -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 7:13:33 AM)

Well....maybe it was foggy...possibly, the Japanese had no radar....perhaps ships were oiling....maybe they were recovering aircraft....maybe they were misdentified. Or perhaps the PT's activated their "cloaking device". Still it seems to be a little far-fetched [:'(]




koolio -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 7:18:16 AM)

I don't think pt boats were very effective at all during the war especially when confronted with destroyers or bigger. Its not just the 5 inch guns pt boats have to worry about, the bofors smaller 40 or 20 mm and even machineguns since there mostly open deck boats.




von Murrin -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 7:21:24 AM)

Guys, the Leyte jeep carrier mess shouldn't have happened, either. Best situational results sometimes happen. If it happens a few times with the PT's and they generally muck up other TF's as well, then there is room for action.




Xargun -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 7:24:29 AM)

My biggest complaint about that incident is that all the PTs weren't sunk... What were the crews on those CAs and DDs asleep throughout the entire fight ?

Xargun




von Murrin -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 7:30:26 AM)

Mine get pounded under like cheap bath toys in the hands of a child recreating the Titanic's demise.[:D]




Cap Mandrake -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 7:32:09 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: von Murrin

Guys, the Leyte jeep carrier mess shouldn't have happened, either. Best situational results sometimes happen. If it happens a few times with the PT's and they generally muck up other TF's as well, then there is room for action.


Excellent point! And Mathias Rust should never have been able to fly a Piper Cub through Russian cold war air defences then land in Red Square [:D]




von Murrin -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 7:40:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

quote:

ORIGINAL: von Murrin

Guys, the Leyte jeep carrier mess shouldn't have happened, either. Best situational results sometimes happen. If it happens a few times with the PT's and they generally muck up other TF's as well, then there is room for action.


Excellent point! And Mathias Rust should never have been able to fly a Piper Cub through Russian cold war air defences then land in Red Square [:D]


That's an even better example, LOL.[:D]




WiTP_Dude -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 7:40:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: von Murrin

Guys, the Leyte jeep carrier mess shouldn't have happened, either. Best situational results sometimes happen. If it happens a few times with the PT's and they generally muck up other TF's as well, then there is room for action.


I don't know. Three torpedoes got through. This is like a one in a billion shot. There have already been other 'odd' PT results posted too.




von Murrin -> RE: The Best Mid Ocean Intersept EVER! (7/13/2004 7:44:41 AM)

I have trouble with it because I tend to get one or two reported torp hits per group of five boats, but lose ALL the PT's.




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