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trollelite -> RE: Red Army launche offensives (10/22/2007 1:14:01 AM)
It seemed soviets are not as strong as those in small scenario "august storm"....

PzB74 -> RE: Red Army launche offensives (10/23/2007 12:38:00 AM)
A few enemy transports are left in the Sea of Japan with 1 APD having sailed into Vladivostok. What can 1 APD bring there - supplies?? Can't sea the value of this...just nutters altogether. Still can't get any of my ac to fly recon or strike mission against Soviet troops. Starting to fear a bug...Soviet planes fly, that's for sure! Some Soviet units are simple rifle divisions and not corps. Are they all supposed to upgrade? If so, it could be foolish to use them prior to conversion? I'm considering to gather 250 Shindens in one base instead of dispersing them. So give me some good advice now, where should I put them? Okinawas? Home Island base? AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/04/45 Air Combat Air attack of Borneo! Day Air attack on TF at 38,63 Japanese aircraft Ki-102a Randy x 4 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-102a Randy: 4 destroyed Allied Ships AK Empire Rowan, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These are against suicide transports in Sea of Japan. Day Air attack on TF at 70,35 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 7 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 2 damaged Allied Ships AK China Victory, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 69,35 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 3 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 1 damaged Allied Ships AK Henry L. Abott, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 69,35 Japanese aircraft D4Y Judy x 17 G4M2 Betty x 6 P1Y Frances x 3 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Ransom A. Moore, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat One last time our garrison at Lingayen repulses an enemy shock attack with heavy losses to the attacker! [&o] Ground combat at Lingayen Allied Shock attack Attacking force 134330 troops, 1218 guns, 400 vehicles, Assault Value = 2578 Defending force 46272 troops, 184 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 854 Allied max assault: 4450 - adjusted assault: 2177 Japanese max defense: 581 - adjusted defense: 557 Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 3) Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0 Japanese ground losses: 699 casualties reported Guns lost 20 Allied ground losses: 3082 casualties reported Guns lost 85 Vehicles lost 14 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Trimcomalee Allied Shock attack Attacking force 23752 troops, 77 guns, 368 vehicles, Assault Value = 529 Defending force 7963 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 73 Allied max assault: 900 - adjusted assault: 397 Japanese max defense: 55 - adjusted defense: 21 Allied assault odds: 18 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 421 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Allied ground losses: 232 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Vehicles lost 2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Kereguelen -> RE: Red Army launche offensives (10/23/2007 11:55:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PzB Some Soviet units are simple rifle divisions and not corps. Are they all supposed to upgrade? If so, it could be foolish to use them prior to conversion? Not every Soviet rifle divisions does upgrade, the intention of the upgrade is to give the Soviets the rifle corps (and mechanized and tank corps) that were historically available for the 'Autumn Storm' campaign in 1945. All upgrades should have happened in June 1945.

PzB74 -> RE: Red Army launche offensives (10/23/2007 11:27:59 PM)
Then I guess the Red Army should be at full strength! Again, no recon or ground strike throughout Manchukuo against Red forces. Seems like a bug to me. If this is the case the entire defensives bottom falls out. By refusing me the only effective counter-measures there isn't much left for me to do. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/05/45 Surface Combat Engaged 2 enemy ships in Sea of Japan with pooor results.. Night Time Surface Combat at 66,35 Japanese Ships PC Ikino PC Otsu PC Urumi PC Murotsu Allied Ships APD Harry L. Corl AK Robert Neighbors -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat A few strikes south of Borneo with mediocre torpedo bombers. Day Air attack on TF at 37,61 Japanese aircraft B7A Grace x 15 Japanese aircraft losses B7A Grace: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged Allied Ships AK Alshain AK Robin Wentley AK Vermont AK Cape Lookout, Torpedo hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 37,61 Japanese aircraft B7A Grace x 3 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Kailua, Torpedo hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 37,61 Japanese aircraft P1Y Frances x 3 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y Frances: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied Ships AK Sheliak, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat Lingayen falls after causing a lot of enemy casualties! Ground combat at 64,23 Allied Shock attack Attacking force 89022 troops, 925 guns, 232 vehicles, Assault Value = 2285 Defending force 429 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3 Allied max assault: 5002 - adjusted assault: 6763 Japanese max defense: 1 - adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 6763 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 194 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Arshaan Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 159871 troops, 2053 guns, 3720 vehicles, Assault Value = 5612 Defending force 66052 troops, 705 guns, 21 vehicles, Assault Value = 1288 Japanese ground losses: 235 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at San Marcelino Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 29841 troops, 271 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 770 Defending force 3964 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 77 Japanese ground losses: 9 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Lingayen Allied Shock attack Attacking force 131049 troops, 1109 guns, 380 vehicles, Assault Value = 2324 Defending force 44224 troops, 153 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 787 Allied max assault: 3654 - adjusted assault: 1915 Japanese max defense: 573 - adjusted defense: 391 Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Lingayen base !!! Japanese ground losses: 1038 casualties reported Guns lost 23 Allied ground losses: 1324 casualties reported Guns lost 29 Vehicles lost 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Bataan Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 7250 troops, 196 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 644 Defending force 75907 troops, 147 guns, 114 vehicles, Assault Value = 1298 Japanese ground losses: 105 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Trimcomalee Allied Shock attack Attacking force 23828 troops, 77 guns, 371 vehicles, Assault Value = 530 Defending force 7112 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 71 Allied max assault: 900 - adjusted assault: 206 Japanese max defense: 51 - adjusted defense: 25 Allied assault odds: 8 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 245 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Allied ground losses: 111 casualties reported Guns lost 1 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

PzB74 -> RE: Red Army launche offensives (10/27/2007 12:30:00 AM)
Still not a single recon or bombing attack against Soviet bases. I'm very concerned now. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/06/45 Surface Combat Sent some PCs into Vlad to intercept the remaining Allied suicide ships. A bit better results this time! Night Time Surface Combat, near Vladivostok at 65,33 Japanese Ships PC PC-83, Shell hits 1 PC PC-104 PC PC-202 PC PC-204, Shell hits 2, on fire PC PC-227 Allied Ships APD Harry L. Corl, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage AK Robert Neighbors -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat Hundreds of incompetent Red AF bombers goes after our patrols. Day Air attack on TF at 65,34 Allied aircraft La-7 x 9 Yak-3 x 11 P-63A x 3 IL-2m3 Shturmovik x 12 Tu-2S x 18 No Allied losses Japanese Ships PC Ikino PC Urumi PC Murotsu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Vladivostok at 65,33 Allied aircraft La-7 x 15 Yak-3 x 34 P-63A x 15 Tu-2S x 33 No Allied losses Japanese Ships PC PC-83 PC PC-204, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage PC PC-227 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some CAP over this TF. 200+ bombers hit only 3 PCs. Shturmoviks are the only capable naval attack ac. No danger to send capital ships her! Day Air attack on TF at 64,35 Japanese aircraft Ki-84-Ic Frank x 11 Allied aircraft La-7 x 24 Yak-3 x 43 P-63A x 14 IL-2m3 Shturmovik x 33 Pe-2 x 91 Tu-2S x 97 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-84-Ic Frank: 8 destroyed Allied aircraft losses La-7: 1 destroyed Yak-3: 1 destroyed P-63A: 2 destroyed IL-2m3 Shturmovik: 1 damaged Japanese Ships PC PC-213 PC PC-200 PC PC-223 PC PC-124, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage PC PC-80, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage PC PC-198, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage PC PC-89 PC PC-102 PC PC-196 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat Should be a major battle at Arshaan soon. Mountain terrain, 9 forts. We have no tanks here. Holding back my armored reserve. Ground combat at Arshaan Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 159735 troops, 2046 guns, 3718 vehicles, Assault Value = 5610 Defending force 111158 troops, 1227 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 2255 Japanese ground losses: 51 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another couple of outposts fall. Ground combat at Tsitsihar Allied Shock attack Attacking force 89061 troops, 925 guns, 230 vehicles, Assault Value = 2290 Defending force 1701 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 36 Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 8 Allied max assault: 2978 - adjusted assault: 2016 Japanese max defense: 37 - adjusted defense: 19 Allied assault odds: 106 to 1 (fort level 8) Allied forces CAPTURE Tsitsihar base !!! Japanese ground losses: 206 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Allied ground losses: 27 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Vehicles lost 1 Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Sunwu Allied Shock attack Attacking force 50252 troops, 743 guns, 107 vehicles, Assault Value = 1134 Defending force 1342 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 26 Allied max assault: 2472 - adjusted assault: 1914 Japanese max defense: 20 - adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 1914 to 1 (fort level 9) Allied forces CAPTURE Sunwu base !!! Japanese ground losses: 379 casualties reported Guns lost 5 Allied ground losses: 98 casualties reported Guns lost 6 Vehicles lost 1 Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andy has no plan to reduce our troops in Bataan. Only left a small covering force. Ground combat at Bataan Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 7250 troops, 196 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 648 Defending force 76542 troops, 156 guns, 115 vehicles, Assault Value = 1329 Japanese ground losses: 39 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allies are still suffering at Trimcomalee. Ground combat at Trimcomalee Allied Shock attack Attacking force 23893 troops, 74 guns, 371 vehicles, Assault Value = 528 Defending force 6700 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 68 Allied max assault: 900 - adjusted assault: 303 Japanese max defense: 47 - adjusted defense: 15 Allied assault odds: 20 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 129 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 168 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Vehicles lost 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Continuing to pursue remains of Chinese units into Red hinterland. Ground combat at 59,22 Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 7375 troops, 84 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 155 Defending force 2392 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 66 Japanese max assault: 163 - adjusted assault: 171 Allied max defense: 42 - adjusted defense: 10 Japanese assault odds: 17 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 24 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Allied ground losses: 45 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Red Air Force on Naval Attack There are a lot of Red Army ac, but they don't inflict much damage. [image]local://upfiles/1466/A7EAB0CF911940B9A6699B870227CF5E.jpg[/image]

trollelite -> RE: Red Army launche offensives (10/27/2007 12:35:53 AM)
Good done, PZB!! I need some laugh, and Andy and his red army is VERY COMPETENT in that, at least...[:D]

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: Red Army launche offensives (10/27/2007 6:55:40 PM)
quote: Still not a single recon or bombing attack against Soviet bases. I'm very concerned now. Why not post this oddity in the bugs/support forum , might help [&:]

PzB74 -> Okha-Sakalin falls to Japan! (10/27/2007 9:34:52 PM)
Today I tried sweeps over Okha from Shikka as well as bombing and recon units. Didn't work either. No recon or air strikes on any other Soviet bases either despite clear weather. I can send a turn to anyone who would like to make tests. If I can't use my AF against the Red Army, Manchukuo is lost for sure. Well, at least we managed to secure Okha-Sakalin today and add 400 oil and 300 resources to the Empire [8D] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/07/45 Surface Combat More enemy ships sneak into Vlad. We hit a DE. Night Time Surface Combat, near Vladivostok at 65,33 Japanese Ships PC PC-104 PC PC-202, Shell hits 1, on fire PC PC-227 Allied Ships DE Gillette, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage AK Robert Neighbors -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat A few air strikes from Borneo: Day Air attack on TF at 38,51 Japanese aircraft B7A Grace x 4 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 34 Japanese aircraft losses B7A Grace: 4 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 39,72 Japanese aircraft Ki-102a Randy x 6 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK San Vincente AK Cape Faro, Bomb hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 39,69 Japanese aircraft Ki-102a Randy x 13 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Aurelia AK Vermont AK Tate, Bomb hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat I marched a division and a base force to Ohka. Despite some fatigue they managed to capture the base together with the 1st Yokosuka SNLF Para unit. Ground combat at Ohka - Sakalin Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 26437 troops, 254 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 553 Defending force 2574 troops, 14 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 19 Japanese max assault: 439 - adjusted assault: 119 Allied max defense: 18 - adjusted defense: 25 Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Ohka - Sakalin base !!! Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses Li-2: 1 destroyed Japanese ground losses: 9 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Vehicles lost 1 Allied ground losses: 3032 casualties reported Guns lost 11 Vehicles lost 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Arshaan Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 159683 troops, 2048 guns, 3716 vehicles, Assault Value = 5612 Defending force 111161 troops, 1229 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 2252 Japanese ground losses: 64 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at San Marcelino Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 43026 troops, 329 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 792 Defending force 3842 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 75 Allied max assault: 732 - adjusted assault: 588 Japanese max defense: 37 - adjusted defense: 4 Allied assault odds: 147 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 697 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Allied ground losses: 138 casualties reported Guns lost 5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Trimcomalee Allied Shock attack Attacking force 23935 troops, 76 guns, 372 vehicles, Assault Value = 527 Defending force 6420 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 67 Allied max assault: 898 - adjusted assault: 507 Japanese max defense: 45 - adjusted defense: 17 Allied assault odds: 29 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 429 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Allied ground losses: 124 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Vehicles lost 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Okha-Sakalin captured [image]local://upfiles/1466/FF77DCD340DC4978BA5EBAC3EDA795F9.jpg[/image]

PzB74 -> RE: Okha-Sakalin falls to Japan! (10/28/2007 2:08:34 AM)
Here's a preview of what's on the cards for tomorrow; Everyone pls say a prayer for good weather and coordination [&o] [image]local://upfiles/1466/52DADA98B0ED4B53A437DD09B0DD2851.jpg[/image]

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: Okha-Sakalin falls to Japan! (10/28/2007 2:09:53 AM)
Com'on com'on com'on!!!!!! BANZAI!!!! The HOLY WIND WILL SMILE UPON YOU!!!!

PzB74 -> 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (10/28/2007 10:26:13 PM)
Your enthusiastic Banzai brought results Hoepner, 2!!! Ohkas impacted after 150 failures! Not only did they hit, they both slammed into a brand new Essex carrier [8D] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/08/45 Surface Combat We continue to intercept enemy shipping in Vladivostok; Night Time Surface Combat, near Vladivostok at 65,33 Japanese Ships PC Ikino PC Otsu PC Urumi PC Murotsu Allied Ships AK Robert Neighbors, Shell hits 19, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub/ASW Attacks I-46 has had its front torp tubes disabled for a long time. Bug prevents them from being repaired. Gave this destroyer escort a close shave and sent her straight to the bottom! Sub attack near Vladivostok at 65,33 Japanese Ships SS I-46 Allied Ships DE Gillette, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage sinks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat This time I sent all bombers to the Bonins 1 day prior to launching them. Usually makes a big difference. A nice balanced strike, too bad some bombers got separated. The entire convoy would have been in tatters if Iwo had also been open and if weather hadn't saved the ships in the afternoon...bugger! Day Air attack on TF at 65,58 Japanese aircraft B7A Grace x 27 G4M2 Betty x 41 G4M2e Betty x 6 Ki-84-Ic Frank x 43 Ki-100 Tony x 4 Ki-102a Randy x 5 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 28 F4U-1D Corsair x 26 Corsair IV x 8 Japanese aircraft losses B7A Grace: 11 destroyed, 2 damaged G4M2 Betty: 26 destroyed G4M2e Betty: 1 destroyed Ki-84-Ic Frank: 37 destroyed Ki-100 Tony: 4 destroyed Ki-102a Randy: 5 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged F4U-1D Corsair: 5 destroyed, 6 damaged Corsair IV: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied Ships CV Lexington, Bomb hits 2, on fire 2!! Ohka hits Fuel storage explosion! [&o] [8D] [:D] CV Hornet CVL Cabot, Torpedo hits 1, on fire Ammo storage explosion CL Topeka CL Pensacola Aircraft Attacking: 1 x G4M2e Betty ohka bombing - these Ohka units are highly experienced. Ca 80+ 4 x G4M2e Betty ohka bombing -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 65,58 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 24 G4M2e Betty x 2 Ki-84-Ic Frank x 2 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 25 F4U-1D Corsair x 21 Corsair IV x 7 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged G4M2e Betty: 1 destroyed Ki-84-Ic Frank: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged Allied Ships DD Charrette Aircraft Attacking: 1 x G4M2e Betty ohka bombing -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat Ground combat at 68,24 Allied Shock attack Attacking force 49955 troops, 732 guns, 106 vehicles, Assault Value = 1131 Defending force 455 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7 Allied max assault: 2406 - adjusted assault: 2186 Japanese max defense: 4 - adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 2186 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 113 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at San Marcelino Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 38998 troops, 302 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 858 Defending force 2717 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 42 Allied max assault: 634 - adjusted assault: 323 Japanese max defense: 21 - adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 323 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 435 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 63 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Our garrison at Trimcomalee is on its last legs. Ground combat at Trimcomalee Allied Shock attack Attacking force 23999 troops, 75 guns, 370 vehicles, Assault Value = 532 Defending force 5915 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 55 Allied max assault: 918 - adjusted assault: 447 Japanese max defense: 34 - adjusted defense: 16 Allied assault odds: 27 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 1141 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Allied ground losses: 73 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ohka strikes! [image]local://upfiles/1466/AC6E846C5CCF48748870471C446FBAFA.jpg[/image]

Nemo121 -> RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (10/28/2007 10:28:51 PM)
Well I'd say that that makes up for a lot of their failures. When Ohkas do hit they are devastating. I imagine that that Essex class CV is in serious trouble.

trollelite -> RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (10/28/2007 10:50:42 PM)
2 ohka equals 5 type 91 torpedo I suppose.

Honda -> RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (10/28/2007 10:54:21 PM)
Great news!!! But, I must warn that when got my Okhas to hit they were known to produce 1 sys or 1 fire damage and that's it. Someone should ask Andy what was the exact damage done to Lex2.

trollelite -> RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (10/28/2007 10:59:20 PM)
No, 2 ohka equal 5 long lance and 12 1000lb bomb, this should be enough. If not, it would be very disgusting... I would consider stop that airplane all together.

CapAndGown -> RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (10/28/2007 11:11:00 PM)
Did you check for OP losses to see if Andy lost some Hellcats or Corsairs? Might be indicative of the success of your strike.

Terminus -> RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (10/28/2007 11:15:50 PM)
No! I mean, "everybody knows that Okhas are broken"...[8\|][8\|][8\|]

Fishbed -> RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (10/28/2007 11:22:20 PM)
... now, that was a constructive comment Terminus...

PzB74 -> RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (10/28/2007 11:25:53 PM)
No serious OPs losses this turn! Guess we'll find out tomorrow. If the ship is seriously damaged it will still be in range of our bombers! Only partially clouded weather reported for tomorrow and I moved bombers to Pagan. Still not sure what damage they can cause - have launched some 200 Ohkas without scoring a single hit. This includes misses against crippled battleships sailing alone [8\|] So I still think Ohka's should have a higher hit % and not be dependend on motherplane exp. All they have to do is survive long enough to launch the rocket and all Ohka pilots are pre-trained and should be fairly able to hit their target. At least a 20-25% hit probability. Got one 1 Ohka pilot left now. What I've learned to do is to break up my Ohka carrying Bettys. Now I got several smaller units with high exp. I mix them with ordinary Betty's and send them in.

Terminus -> RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (10/28/2007 11:29:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fishbed ... now, that was a constructive comment Terminus... Yeah, about as "constructive" as every time somebody's whined about so-called "broken Okhas".

Terminus -> RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (10/28/2007 11:31:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PzB No serious OPs losses this turn! Guess we'll find out tomorrow. If the ship is seriously damaged it will still be in range of our bombers! Only partially clouded weather reported for tomorrow and I moved bombers to Pagan. Still not sure what damage they can cause - have launched some 200 Ohkas without scoring a single hit. This includes misses against crippled battleships sailing alone [8\|] So I still think Ohka's should have a higher hit % and not be dependend on motherplane exp. All they have to do is survive long enough to launch the rocket and all Ohka pilots are pre-trained and should be fairly able to hit their target. At least a 20-25% hit probability. Got one 1 Ohka pilot left now. What I've learned to do is to break up my Ohka carrying Bettys. Now I got several smaller units with high exp. I mix them with ordinary Betty's and send them in. I would think that the Okha would have been quite difficult to steer, what with its high speed and relatively limited control surfaces. Sort of like the Kaiten; it's no good having a big fist if you can't land a punch.

PzB74 -> RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (10/28/2007 11:37:11 PM)
The best we can do is calculate average hit probability for those who were launched and scored hits. Numbers launched divided on number of hits. Operational history March 21, 1945 � Sixteen Ohka-carrying Betty G4M2e mother ships were to be escorted by 55 Zeros to attack Task Group 58.1 (Hornet, Bennington, Wasp, Belleau Wood). Another two Bettys were to escort and provide navigation and observation. Due to technical problems, all but 30 zeros have to turn back or cannot take off. The Ohka attack force is intercepted by 50 F6F Hellcats and the Ohkas are immediately jettisoned by the Bettys some 70 miles (113 km) from the target. None of the Bettys return, no ships are attacked, 16 of the Jinrai Butai are dead, and only 15 damaged Zeros make it back. April 1 1945 � Six Bettys attack the US Fleet off Okinawa. At least one makes a successful attack, with its Ohka hitting one of the 16" (406 mm) turrets on the West Virginia, causing moderate damage. Alpine, Achernar, and Tyrrell are also hit by kamikaze aircraft, but it is unclear whether any of these were Ohkas from the other Bettys. None of the Bettys return. April 12 1945 � Nine Bettys attack the US Fleet off Okinawa. Mannert L. Abele is hit, breaks in two, and sinks. Jeffers destroys an Ohka with AA fire 50 yards (45 m) from the ship, but the resulting explosion is still powerful enough to cause extensive damage, forcing Jeffers to withdraw. Stanly is targeted by two Ohkas. One strikes just above the waterline, with the charge punching through the other side of the hull before detonating, causing little damage to the ship, and the other Ohka narrowly missed and crashed into the sea, knocking off the Stanly's ensign in the process. One Betty returns. April 14 1945 � Seven Bettys attack the US Fleet off Okinawa. None return. None of the Ohkas appear to have been launched. April 16 1945 � Six Bettys attack the US Fleet off Okinawa. Two return, but no Ohkas hit their targets. April 28 1945 � Four Bettys attack the US Fleet off Okinawa at night. One returns. No hits. May 4 1945 � Seven Bettys attack the US Fleet off Okinawa. One Ohka hits the bridge of Shea, causing extensive damage and casualties. Vessel judged beyond repair. Gayety is also damaged by a near-miss by an Ohka. One Betty returns. May 11 1945 � Four Bettys attack the US Fleet off Okinawa. Hugh W. Hadley is hit, suffers extensive damage and flooding. Vessel judged beyond repair. May 25 1945 � Eleven Bettys attack the US Fleet off Okinawa. Bad weather forces most of the aircraft to turn back, and none of the others score hits. June 22 1945 � Six Bettys attack the US Fleet off Okinawa. Two return, but no hits were scored. --------------------------------------------------------------- The real life hit ratio is way better than what I've managed so far!

PzB74 -> RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (10/29/2007 12:47:59 AM)
From Andy: "Lex is out of the rest of the war but probably wont sink 50 sys, 40 floot 30 fires allied DC will �probably keep her afloat but that�s a lot of damage for 2 hits."

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (10/29/2007 1:46:16 AM)
You see? Hoepner brings luck[:D]

PzB74 -> RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (10/29/2007 1:53:16 AM)
Still no luck with ground attacks. Switching to airfield attacks altogether. Should be easier...if possible at all. Slowly building the pool of Reppus and Shindens that is needed to last throughout the war. If we can build 2000 of each over the next 4 months we will have enough to last. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/09/45 Surface Combat Night Time Surface Combat, near Vladivostok at 65,33 Japanese Ships PC PC-104 PC PC-227 Allied Ships AK Robert Neighbors, Shell hits 1, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Vladivostok at 65,33 Japanese Ships PC Ikino PC Otsu PC Urumi PC Murotsu Allied Ships APD Harry L. Corl, Shell hits 20, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat Andy sent some bombers from Soviet bases to hit Jap targets in Korea to try to trigger some sort of Jap air activation... Day Air attack on Pyongyang , at 59,34 Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 10 No Allied losses Port fuel hits 1 Port supply hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Formosa was his by several heavy strikes today. I've moved all fighters out. Too close to 2000 enemy LBA fighters. Day Air attack on Taichu , at 49,43 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft F-5A Lightning x 3 F-5C Lightning x 3 PB4Y Liberator x 7 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-57-II Topsy: 2 destroyed Japanese ground losses: 11 casualties reported Airbase hits 3 Runway hits 8 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Takao , at 48,45 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 5 F-5A Lightning x 4 F-5C Lightning x 4 B-24J Liberator x 241 Japanese aircraft losses D4Y Judy: 2 destroyed B7A Grace: 1 destroyed H8K Emily: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 127 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Airbase hits 58 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 439 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All US B-29s were sent against the Marianas to disrupt our air units there. The enemy convoys heading past the Bonins fled head over heels and appeared next to Pagan! Day Air attack on Pagan , at 64,62 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29 Superfortress x 188 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 19 destroyed Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed E7K2 Alf: 2 destroyed A6M8 Zeke: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 13 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 14 Airbase supply hits 13 Runway hits 161 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Saipan , at 63,64 Allied aircraft B-29 Superfortress x 72 Allied aircraft losses B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 35 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Airbase hits 16 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 93 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Allied aircraft B-29 Superfortress x 332 Allied aircraft losses B-29 Superfortress: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 55 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 56 Airbase supply hits 16 Runway hits 565 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Guam , at 62,66 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29 Superfortress x 49 Japanese aircraft losses F1M2 Pete: 3 destroyed Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed Japanese ground losses: 11 casualties reported Airbase hits 12 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 62 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The small strike from Pagan got through with 2 Bettys...unfortunately no hits. Day Air attack on TF at 63,62 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 6 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 28 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 21 F4U-1D Corsair x 15 Corsair IV x 13 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 4 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 28 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged F4U-1D Corsair: 2 damaged Allied Ships CV Hornet Aircraft Attacking: 2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat Ground combat at Arshaan Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 245315 troops, 2983 guns, 3930 vehicles, Assault Value = 5613 Defending force 122116 troops, 1310 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 2410 Japanese ground losses: 6 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chiamussu Allied Shock attack Attacking force 21330 troops, 441 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3711 Defending force 1613 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 35 Allied max assault: 734 - adjusted assault: 1444 Japanese max defense: 36 - adjusted defense: 10 Allied assault odds: 144 to 1 (fort level 9) Allied forces CAPTURE Chiamussu base !!! Japanese ground losses: 210 casualties reported Guns lost 5 Allied ground losses: 5 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at San Marcelino Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 46602 troops, 368 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 855 Defending force 1917 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22 Allied max assault: 788 - adjusted assault: 780 Japanese max defense: 11 - adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 780 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 108 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 15 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Bataan Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 7255 troops, 199 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 724 Defending force 77956 troops, 172 guns, 112 vehicles, Assault Value = 1388 Japanese ground losses: 102 casualties reporte -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Trimcomalee Allied Shock attack Attacking force 25143 troops, 109 guns, 372 vehicles, Assault Value = 548 Defending force 5050 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 41 Allied max assault: 510 - adjusted assault: 221 Japanese max defense: 24 - adjusted defense: 9 Allied assault odds: 24 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 384 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Vehicles lost 3 Allied ground losses: 40 casualties reported --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dino -> RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (10/29/2007 6:43:48 PM)
quote: Still no luck with ground attacks. Switching to airfield attacks altogether. From my experience, ground attack missions will not fly if they are conducted from the same base as AF attack missions AND over the same target. Most of the time I don't read CRs in detail so I'm not sure if this is the problem here, but it might be worth looking at.

PzB74 -> RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (11/1/2007 12:09:28 AM)
I have only ordered only ground/AF strikes from our bases - so this should not be a problem either... No air strikes today either. Just a new 'issue' as Russian troops apparently 'pass through'Arshaan. Told Andy that I cannot continue to fight in Manchukuo with the current issues. If he does not halt his offensive I may have to withdraw all troops into China in order to prevent their destruction. WitP is giving me a lot of functional problems right now and I must admit that the cost of playing an old stock game are getting a bit high. Personally I would like to see all combat in Manchukuo halted for now. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/10/45 Air Combat Luzon - Okinawas Batan Island is continously pounded. Day Air attack on Batan Island , at 47,47 Allied aircraft Mosquito B.XXVI x 15 P-40N Warhawk x 27 A-26B Invader x 197 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 70 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 10 Airbase supply hits 6 Runway hits 150 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- An all out effort against Kadina (Okinawas). We had no CAP here. Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45 Allied aircraft P-51D Mustang x 55 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29 Superfortress x 346 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-57-II Topsy: 12 destroyed C6N Myrt: 2 destroyed A7M2 Reppu: 8 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-29 Superfortress: 3 damaged Japanese ground losses: 346 casualties reported Guns lost 9 Airbase hits 42 Airbase supply hits 25 Runway hits 353 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45 Allied aircraft F-5A Lightning x 7 F-5C Lightning x 7 PB4Y Liberator x 8 B-24J Liberator x 238 B-29 Superfortress x 240 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 316 casualties reported Guns lost 8 Port hits 13 Port fuel hits 20 Port supply hits 19 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Central Pacific Marianas were pounded again: Day Air attack on Guam , at 62,66 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29 Superfortress x 42 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 4 destroyed Japanese ground losses: 25 casualties reported Airbase hits 11 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 50 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We got one chance at finishing the crippled Lexington...the inexperienced kami crews did not take it. Day Air attack on TF at 65,64 Japanese aircraft Ki-67 Peggy x 6 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-67 Peggy: 6 destroyed Allied Ships CV Lexington, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- India No CAP over Andaman. Used the opportunity to send in some TBDs! Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34 Japanese aircraft B7A Grace x 18 Ki-67 Peggy x 3 Japanese aircraft losses B7A Grace: 4 destroyed, 10 damaged Ki-67 Peggy: 3 destroyed Allied Ships DD Morris, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Eaton DD Cowell DD Heywood Edwards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat Ground combat at Trimcomalee Allied Shock attack Attacking force 25392 troops, 116 guns, 372 vehicles, Assault Value = 565 Defending force 4391 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 42 Allied max assault: 518 - adjusted assault: 174 Japanese max defense: 24 - adjusted defense: 4 Allied assault odds: 43 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 2197 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 53 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Troops at San Marcelino are destroyed! Ground combat at San Marcelino Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 33976 troops, 292 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 579 Defending force 1549 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 6 Allied max assault: 521 - adjusted assault: 567 Japanese max defense: 3 - adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 567 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 5042 casualties reported Guns lost 26 Allied ground losses: 5 casualties reported ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Japanese Unit(s) surrounded at Trimcomalee ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Arshaan [image]local://upfiles/1466/EEFE3FDA710F40D4BC15FE4BE5452C99.jpg[/image]

pauk -> RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (11/1/2007 12:24:32 PM)
perhaps he landed paras there?

PzB74 -> RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (11/1/2007 6:03:55 PM)
A mech corps landing in paras? [:D] Andy tells me that he ordered the Mech corps to march from Arshaan to another base: "I was pulling some armour/mech while leaving forces to cover it out of Arshaan and was going to leave you sitting on top of your mountain with your x 12 defensive multiplier I ordered the troops to move to a base on another axis of advance intending it to move North then East along the road. BUT the shortest route between two bases is SOUTH so the AI sent them through your forces along the rail line its an issue of road v rail unfortunately. So I can fix it in a couple of turns by ordering the forces back North and I will move forces 1 unit at a time." -------------------------------------------------------------------- This sounds a bit weirdo to me, but the ground combat system isn't always 100% perfect [8\|] Further Andy informs that he will march the Mech corps back around Arshaan and that his only real objective is Harbin and that he's assembling all his troops for an all out assault here. After it falls he'll be happy enough to close down the entire Manchukuo theatre. I'm wondering if I should accept this. I can muster many troops for an all out stand at Arshaan - but it's no real point if my air force doesn't want to fly. If I could interdict enemy troops with all my available LBA it could maybe be possible to halt the Reds. Harbin with its 200 Shindens produced pr month is a valuable target, but we produce more than 600 pr month and the pool is growing. Ahh, this is getting frustrating [sm=dizzy.gif]

trollelite -> RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (11/1/2007 6:25:02 PM)
I really get the feeling that the game is just coded against Japanese in the programe, too frequent to described as "random factor" only.... We all talk about history accuracy, but I wonder if there is a more balanced grand scenario, then those so-called "history accurate" scenario would be played anymore. If there is an option, to say, "turn off japanese asw incompetence", and you, as allies player, don't want to accept it? Well, go and find some others who enjoy to be whipped! There are tons of willing allies players, but few want to take japanese side, and even fewer who is qualified to do so. If you don't believe this, simply read those posts in the opponent want forum.

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