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tekk -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/3/2008 3:07:32 AM)
Wow they've lost a ton of tanks too. Are you able to fly in troops or does his CAP devastate your transport planes to much?

IKerensky -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/3/2008 4:40:24 PM)
Nice job the both of you. I am surprised to see Andy fly his B-29 at the minimum 6.000 feet against your Figthers... Wouldn't you have more losses and him less if he fly the super at 10-15.000 feet ? with more than 200 of them I dont think he will lack too much in payload delivery...

wild_Willie2 -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/3/2008 5:28:18 PM)
Remember that this is a STOCK game, AA effect is minimal in stock and 4E accuracy is maximal at 6000 feet.... 200 B-29's have a HUGE detection value, so the chance of escaping fighter interception by bombing at higher altitude is almost nill.. So bombing at higher altitudes would decrease accuracy, but would yield about the same losses as bombing from 6000 feet...

PzB74 -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/4/2008 1:14:32 AM)
I have expended most transport ac by now. Trying to rebuild a few units but it will take time. Uber CAP shoots down most flying object around Amami. Today I readied another 600 fighters and 400 bombers. Had hoped to both weaken the enemy CAG even more and then hit the carriers at Amami. Some fighters were sent on LRCAP, these did a good job - even a few Shindens somehow managed to stray in. The sweep fighters came in piecemeal - even those launched from the same base. Why is this [&:] Had hoped to weaken enemy Uber CAP - or at least disrupt it. Think we succeeded, but not enough to allow enough bombers to get through. Kamikaze ac launched in dribs and drabs while the only 'big strike' was another mediocre affair were most bombers stayed home. It's so frustrating - we have the means to finish the enemy but the game just doesn't allow me enough coordination to use them [:(] We only sank a destroyer today, but another CVE was reported sunk (another 2 had lucky escapes from our LBA). It took with it 25 Corsairs to the bottom [:D] Enemy surface ships also caused some carnage but quite a few troop ships managed to unload and I'm hoping that Amami can hold for a while. Supplies are getting scarce and I'm concentrating on running in more from now on. In India Dehli fell - it's a slow campaign. I'm only trying to hold on to Bombay and Karachi for as long as possible and tie up enemy resources. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/27/45 Night Air Combat Thought I was finally going to hit something, but no luck as usual. Never any luck against Andy [:(] Night Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft H8K Emily x 9 Japanese aircraft losses H8K Emily: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged Allied Ships CV Bunker Hill CV Enterprise Aircraft Attacking: 3 x H8K Emily launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x H8K Emily launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub/ASW Attacks Sub attack near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AG AG-111, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Kete -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 56,43 Japanese Ships AG AG-355, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships SS O23 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Arrgh, more bad luck! Scratched together another few ships and the last light cruiser was torpedoed in Nagasaki. She survived but is all wrecked and of no use for the rest of the war.... Sub attack near Nagasaki at 58,42 Japanese Ships CL Noshiro, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Natsuzuki Allied Ships SS Jack -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surface Combat Night Time Surface Combat, near Kagoshima at 58,43 Japanese Ships AP America Maru, Shell hits 15, and is sunk Allied Ships DD Clarence Bronson DD Wilkes DD Arunta -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AK Sikisan Maru, Shell hits 13, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Australia CL Oklahoma City DD John R. Pierce DD Wadsworth DD Walker DD Waller DD Wedderburn DE Samuel S. Miles DE Osterhaus DE Parks DE Riddle DE Roberts DE J.R.Y. Blakely -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AG AG-107 AG AG-110 AG AG-355 AG AG-356 AG AG-363, Shell hits 3, and is sunk AG AG-5069, Shell hits 1, and is sunk AG AG-5090, Shell hits 2, and is sunk AG AG-5117 AG AG-5138 AG AG-5142 AG AG-5143, Shell hits 3, and is sunk AG AG-2055 AG AG-2058, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Australia CL Oklahoma City DD John R. Pierce DD Wadsworth DD Walker DD Waller DD Wedderburn DE Samuel S. Miles DE Osterhaus DE Parks DE Riddle DE Roberts DE J.R.Y. Blakely -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AP Fukusei Maru, Shell hits 12, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Australia CL Oklahoma City DD John R. Pierce DD Wadsworth DD Walker DD Waller DD Wedderburn DE Samuel S. Miles DE Osterhaus DE Parks DE Riddle DE Roberts DE J.R.Y. Blakely Japanese ground losses: 778 casualties reported Guns lost 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AP Taito Maru, Shell hits 8, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Australia CL Oklahoma City DD John R. Pierce DD Wadsworth DD Walker DD Waller DD Wedderburn DE Samuel S. Miles DE Osterhaus DE Parks DE Riddle DE Roberts DE J.R.Y. Blakely Japanese ground losses: 1200 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AK Higane Maru, Shell hits 22, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Australia CL Oklahoma City DD John R. Pierce DD Wadsworth DD Walker DD Waller DD Wedderburn DE Samuel S. Miles DE Osterhaus DE Parks DE Riddle DE Roberts DE J.R.Y. Blakely -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat Day Air attack on Takao , at 48,45 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft A-26B Invader x 34 Japanese aircraft losses B6N Jill: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses A-26B Invader: 3 damaged Japanese ground losses: 45 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 6 Runway hits 52 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Tainan , at 48,44 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft P-40N Warhawk x 22 A-26B Invader x 110 Japanese aircraft losses B5N Kate: 5 destroyed Allied aircraft losses A-26B Invader: 7 damaged Japanese ground losses: 12 casualties reported Airbase hits 11 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 106 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Hong Kong , at 43,42 Allied aircraft F-5C Lightning x 4 A-26B Invader x 82 Allied aircraft losses A-26B Invader: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 48 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 9 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 101 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Delhi , at 27,10 Allied aircraft Liberator VI x 29 Mosquito FB.VI x 15 PB4Y Liberator x 9 No Allied losses Airbase hits 3 Runway hits 28 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Delhi , at 27,10 Allied aircraft B-29 Superfortress x 20 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 19 casualties reported Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 33 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10 Allied aircraft F4U-1D Corsair x 24 TBM Avenger x 11 Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged Japanese ground losses: 15 casualties reported Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 1 Port hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10 Allied aircraft Vengeance I x 3 Allied aircraft losses Vengeance I: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 12 casualties reported Runway hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Vengeance I bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10 Allied aircraft Liberator VI x 7 Allied aircraft losses Liberator VI: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 44 casualties reported Port hits 2 Port supply hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45 Japanese aircraft J7W Shinden x 23 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 34 Japanese aircraft losses J7W Shinden: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-38J Lightning: 6 destroyed, 2 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45 Japanese aircraft J7W Shinden x 21 Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 25 Japanese aircraft losses J7W Shinden: 4 damaged Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged Japanese ground losses: 16 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 31 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 3 A7M2 Reppu x 1 Ki-100 Tony x 15 Ki-102a Randy x 7 Allied aircraft F-5C Lightning x 3 P-51D Mustang x 6 P-61A Black Widow x 4 B-29 Superfortress x 8 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-100 Tony: 6 destroyed Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed P-61A Black Widow: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 1 Ki-100 Tony x 5 Ki-102a Randy x 2 Allied aircraft PB4Y Liberator x 5 B-24J Liberator x 6 B-29 Superfortress x 3 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses PB4Y Liberator: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 19 casualties reported Runway hits 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46 Japanese aircraft J7W Shinden x 56 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 17 Japanese aircraft losses J7W Shinden: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Wewak , at 52,81 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 10 F4U-1D Corsair x 21 F6F-5N Hellcat x 17 TBM Avenger x 4 Kittyhawk III x 7 No Allied losses Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 3 Aircraft Attacking: 4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet 17 x F6F-5N Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 40th USA Division, at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 8 Ki-84-Ic Frank x 11 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 5 F6F Hellcat x 71 F4U-1 Corsair x 6 F4U-1D Corsair x 45 F6F-5N Hellcat x 19 P-51D Mustang x 12 P-61A Black Widow x 2 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 8 destroyed Ki-84-Ic Frank: 11 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-51D Mustang: 2 destroyed P-61A Black Widow: 2 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 33rd USA Division, at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 17 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 5 F6F Hellcat x 71 F4U-1 Corsair x 6 F4U-1D Corsair x 45 F6F-5N Hellcat x 19 P-51D Mustang x 11 P-61A Black Widow x 1 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 17 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 damaged P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed P-61A Black Widow: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 38th USA Division, at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 11 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 5 F6F Hellcat x 71 F4U-1 Corsair x 6 F4U-1D Corsair x 45 F6F-5N Hellcat x 19 P-51D Mustang x 10 P-61A Black Widow x 1 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 11 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 destroyed P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed P-61A Black Widow: 1 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 38th USA Division, at 56,44 Japanese aircraft C6N1-S Myrt x 17 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 5 F6F Hellcat x 71 F4U-1 Corsair x 6 F4U-1D Corsair x 45 F6F-5N Hellcat x 18 P-51D Mustang x 9 Japanese aircraft losses C6N1-S Myrt: 8 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 121st Naval Construction Battalion, at 27,21 Japanese aircraft Ki-51 Sonia x 6 No Japanese losses Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 21st Mixed/A Brigade, at 20,10 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 9 Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 2 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Aircraft Attacking: 9 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 41st USA Division, at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 15 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 5 F6F Hellcat x 71 F4U-1 Corsair x 6 F4U-1D Corsair x 45 F6F-5N Hellcat x 18 P-51D Mustang x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 15 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 destroyed P-51D Mustang: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 37th USA Division, at 56,44 Japanese aircraft Ki-84-Ic Frank x 21 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 5 F6F Hellcat x 71 F4U-1 Corsair x 6 F4U-1D Corsair x 44 F6F-5N Hellcat x 17 P-51D Mustang x 10 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-84-Ic Frank: 21 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed F6F-5N Hellcat: 2 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 3 A7M2 Reppu x 1 Ki-100 Tony x 12 Ki-102a Randy x 6 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 8 F4U-1 Corsair x 1 F4U-1D Corsair x 6 SB2C Helldiver x 16 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 1 destroyed Ki-100 Tony: 11 destroyed Ki-102a Randy: 8 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships MSW W.14 MSW W.22 Aircraft Attacking: 1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet 2 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet 4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet 4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet 4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 3 Ki-100 Tony x 4 Ki-102a Randy x 2 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 3 F4U-1D Corsair x 3 SB2C Helldiver x 6 TBM Avenger x 8 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-100 Tony: 2 destroyed Ki-102a Randy: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships AP Mitsuki Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 2 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet 3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet 4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 3 Ki-100 Tony x 4 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 2 TBM Avenger x 12 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-100 Tony: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships AP Tsuyama Maru, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage Japanese ground losses: 109 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Aircraft Attacking: 4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 3 Ki-100 Tony x 3 Allied aircraft TBM Avenger x 8 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Shoto Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 3 Ki-100 Tony x 3 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 35 F4U-1D Corsair x 26 SB2C Helldiver x 5 TBM Avenger x 8 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2-N Rufe: 4 destroyed Ki-100 Tony: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 1 damaged Japanese Ships AP Osaka Maru, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AP Miyazaki Maru, Bomb hits 1 Japanese ground losses: 129 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Aircraft Attacking: 4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet 1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet 4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 19 F4U-1D Corsair x 11 SB2C Helldiver x 13 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Chinko Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage AP Amagi Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet 2 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet 4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet 4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Allied aircraft TBM Avenger x 6 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Kasuga Maru #2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Japanese ground losses: 76 casualties reported Aircraft Attacking: 2 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Allied aircraft TBM Avenger x 5 SOC-3 Seagull x 3 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Mayasan Maru, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 1 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet 1 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x SOC-3 Seagull bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Allied aircraft TBM Avenger x 1 SOC-3 Seagull x 6 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Kidokawa Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage Japanese ground losses: 25 casualties reported Aircraft Attacking: 1 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x SOC-3 Seagull bombing at 2000 feet 3 x SOC-3 Seagull bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Allied aircraft TBM Avenger x 1 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Daihachikyo Maru Aircraft Attacking: 1 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A6M5c Zeke x 3 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 5 F6F Hellcat x 71 F4U-1 Corsair x 6 F4U-1D Corsair x 42 F6F-5N Hellcat x 15 P-51D Mustang x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5c Zeke: 3 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 3 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 5 F6F Hellcat x 71 F4U-1 Corsair x 6 F4U-1D Corsair x 42 F6F-5N Hellcat x 15 P-51D Mustang x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 3 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 5 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 5 F6F Hellcat x 71 F4U-1 Corsair x 6 F4U-1D Corsair x 42 F6F-5N Hellcat x 15 P-51D Mustang x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 5 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 6 A6M5c Zeke x 2 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 5 F6F Hellcat x 71 F4U-1 Corsair x 6 F4U-1D Corsair x 42 F6F-5N Hellcat x 15 P-51D Mustang x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 6 destroyed A6M5c Zeke: 2 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 2 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 5 F6F Hellcat x 71 F4U-1 Corsair x 6 F4U-1D Corsair x 42 F6F-5N Hellcat x 15 P-51D Mustang x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 2 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 3 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 5 F6F Hellcat x 71 F4U-1 Corsair x 6 F4U-1D Corsair x 42 F6F-5N Hellcat x 15 P-51D Mustang x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 3 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's "Main strike" - unfortunately 200 naval bomber stayed home... Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 63 D4Y Judy x 3 B7A Grace x 15 G4M2 Betty x 38 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 6 Ki-84-Ic Frank x 54 Ki-100 Tony x 29 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 5 F6F Hellcat x 71 F4U-1 Corsair x 6 F4U-1D Corsair x 42 F6F-5N Hellcat x 15 P-51D Mustang x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 63 destroyed D4Y Judy: 3 destroyed B7A Grace: 14 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 30 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 6 destroyed Ki-84-Ic Frank: 54 destroyed Ki-100 Tony: 29 destroyed Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 1 destroyed F6F Hellcat: 23 destroyed, 11 damaged F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed F4U-1D Corsair: 19 destroyed, 4 damaged F6F-5N Hellcat: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged P-51D Mustang: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged Allied Ships CV Bunker Hill CLAA Tucson CV Shangri-La Aircraft Attacking: 1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 1 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet 1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 2 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 4 F6F Hellcat x 48 F4U-1 Corsair x 5 F4U-1D Corsair x 23 F6F-5N Hellcat x 11 P-51D Mustang x 8 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 2 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 14 Ki-84-Ic Frank x 7 Ki-100 Tony x 2 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 4 F6F Hellcat x 48 F4U-1 Corsair x 5 F4U-1D Corsair x 23 F6F-5N Hellcat x 11 P-51D Mustang x 8 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 14 destroyed Ki-84-Ic Frank: 7 destroyed Ki-100 Tony: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 2 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 4 F6F Hellcat x 46 F4U-1 Corsair x 5 F4U-1D Corsair x 23 F6F-5N Hellcat x 11 P-51D Mustang x 8 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 2 destroyed Allied Ships DE Charles E. Brannon -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 5 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 4 F6F Hellcat x 46 F4U-1 Corsair x 5 F4U-1D Corsair x 23 F6F-5N Hellcat x 11 P-51D Mustang x 8 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 5 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 49,48 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 3 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 3 damaged Allied Ships - ah, to bad... CVE Hollandia Aircraft Attacking: 3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 5 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 4 F6F Hellcat x 46 F4U-1 Corsair x 5 F4U-1D Corsair x 23 F6F-5N Hellcat x 11 P-51D Mustang x 8 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 5 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 63,46 Japanese aircraft Ki-67 Peggy x 5 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-67 Peggy: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged Allied Ships DD Arunta DD Clarence Bronson Aircraft Attacking: 4 x Ki-67 Peggy bombing at 5000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 47,48 Japanese aircraft E13A1 Jake x 5 Japanese aircraft losses E13A1 Jake: 5 damaged Allied Ships AGC Rocky Mount Aircraft Attacking: 1 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet 4 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 2 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 4 F6F Hellcat x 46 F4U-1 Corsair x 5 F4U-1D Corsair x 23 F6F-5N Hellcat x 11 P-51D Mustang x 8 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 2 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 2 Ki-100 Tony x 7 Allied aircraft F-5C Lightning x 1 No Japanese losses No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 2 J7W Shinden x 3 Ki-100 Tony x 7 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 4 F4U-1 Corsair x 1 F4U-1D Corsair x 3 SB2C Helldiver x 8 F6F-5N Hellcat x 1 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed Ki-100 Tony: 4 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 2 destroyed F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese Ships AK Awata Maru, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet 4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 1 J7W Shinden x 3 Ki-100 Tony x 4 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 3 F4U-1D Corsair x 1 SB2C Helldiver x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed Ki-100 Tony: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships AK Sinko Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet 4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet 4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft J7W Shinden x 3 Ki-100 Tony x 3 Allied aircraft F6F-5N Hellcat x 2 TBM Avenger x 7 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 destroyed TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese Ships AK Sado Maru Aircraft Attacking: 2 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft J7W Shinden x 3 Ki-100 Tony x 3 Allied aircraft F6F-5N Hellcat x 2 TBM Avenger x 3 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-100 Tony: 3 destroyed Japanese Ships AK Etashima Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft J7W Shinden x 3 Ki-100 Tony x 1 Allied aircraft F6F-5N Hellcat x 1 TBM Avenger x 1 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft J7W Shinden x 3 Ki-100 Tony x 1 Allied aircraft TBM Avenger x 2 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Unyo Maru #2 Aircraft Attacking: 2 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft J7W Shinden x 3 Ki-100 Tony x 1 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 25 F4U-1 Corsair x 3 F4U-1D Corsair x 7 F6F-5N Hellcat x 3 TBM Avenger x 7 Japanese aircraft losses J7W Shinden: 4 destroyed Ki-100 Tony: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 9 destroyed, 2 damaged Japanese Ships AP Nojima Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft J7W Shinden x 2 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 14 F4U-1D Corsair x 8 SB2C Helldiver x 4 F6F-5N Hellcat x 5 Japanese aircraft losses J7W Shinden: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged Japanese Ships AP Nanrei Maru, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft J7W Shinden x 1 Allied aircraft TBM Avenger x 2 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Arisan Maru Aircraft Attacking: 2 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 46,48 Japanese aircraft D4Y Judy x 15 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 6 Japanese aircraft losses D4Y Judy: 3 destroyed, 9 damaged Allied Ships AP Magoffin AP Custer, Bomb hits 1 AP Windsor LSD Casa Grande, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 55,42 Japanese aircraft D4Y Judy x 3 B7A Grace x 7 G4M2 Betty x 2 Ki-49 Helen x 3 Ki-67 Peggy x 3 Japanese aircraft losses B7A Grace: 1 damaged G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed Ki-49 Helen: 3 damaged Allied Ships DD Farenholt, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage sinks Aircraft Attacking: 3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-67 Peggy bombing at 9000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 4000 feet 1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 3 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 2 F6F Hellcat x 59 F4U-1 Corsair x 5 F4U-1D Corsair x 35 F6F-5N Hellcat x 14 P-51D Mustang x 7 P-61A Black Widow x 2 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 3 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 66 - mostly kamikaze Reppus (reformed Zeke units that were withdrawn and came back with Reppus) A6M5c Zeke x 2 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 4 Ki-84-Ic Frank x 18 Ki-100 Tony x 6 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 2 F6F Hellcat x 59 F4U-1 Corsair x 5 F4U-1D Corsair x 35 F6F-5N Hellcat x 14 P-51D Mustang x 7 P-61A Black Widow x 2 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 66 destroyed A6M5c Zeke: 2 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 4 destroyed Ki-84-Ic Frank: 18 destroyed Ki-100 Tony: 6 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged F4U-1D Corsair: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 destroyed P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed P-61A Black Widow: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CV Bunker Hill CV Enterprise -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 47,48 Japanese aircraft E13A1 Jake x 2 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Manderson Victory Aircraft Attacking: 2 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 46,48 Japanese aircraft P1Y Frances x 3 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 6 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y Frances: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged Allied Ships CVE Takanis Bay Aircraft Attacking: 2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat Ground combat at Delhi Allied Shock attack Attacking force 53735 troops, 442 guns, 214 vehicles, Assault Value = 1410 Defending force 5077 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 92 Allied max assault: 2264 - adjusted assault: 1430 Japanese max defense: 69 - adjusted defense: 53 Allied assault odds: 26 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Delhi base !!! Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 1 destroyed Japanese ground losses: 535 casualties reported Guns lost 8 Allied ground losses: 259 casualties reported Guns lost 6 Vehicles lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Bombay Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 37579 troops, 458 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1484 Defending force 87974 troops, 593 guns, 186 vehicles, Assault Value = 1148 Japanese ground losses: 88 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Amami Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 246418 troops, 1785 guns, 1019 vehicles, Assault Value = 4468 Defending force 72498 troops, 502 guns, 26 vehicles, Assault Value = 1499 Japanese ground losses: 538 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Vehicles lost 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Ahmadabad Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 7420 troops, 85 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 200 Defending force 10088 troops, 116 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 230 Allied ground losses: 13 casualties reported ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Losses Horrrible losses, but another 110 Corsairs and Hellcats are down and out. Andy must be wondering if we're ever are going to run out [;)] [image]local://upfiles/1466/90F41A7A0F07490D9D01C512329E60E6.jpg[/image]

IKerensky -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/4/2008 9:55:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2 Remember that this is a STOCK game, AA effect is minimal in stock and 4E�accuracy is maximal at 6000 feet.... 200 B-29's have a HUGE detection value, so the chance of escaping fighter interception by bombing at higher altitude is almost nill.. So bombing at higher altitudes would decrease accuracy, but would yield about the same losses as bombing�from 6000 feet... I thought that even in the stock game the fighter performance were alterated by altitude....

castor troy -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/4/2008 11:26:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KERENSKY quote: ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2 Remember that this is a STOCK game, AA effect is minimal in stock and 4E�accuracy is maximal at 6000 feet.... 200 B-29's have a HUGE detection value, so the chance of escaping fighter interception by bombing at higher altitude is almost nill.. So bombing at higher altitudes would decrease accuracy, but would yield about the same losses as bombing�from 6000 feet... I thought that even in the stock game the fighter performance were alterated by altitude.... only the Airacobra is hit by a penalty if operating over 10.000ft. No difference for all other aircraft.

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/4/2008 12:58:48 PM)
Also the Wirraway suffers from the same altitude problems afaik

1275psi -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/4/2008 1:03:54 PM)
Gee PZB you lost more planes this week than I build against tabpub in 6 months! OH, to have such resources at my fingertips [8\|][:(]

anarchyintheuk -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/4/2008 6:30:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner Also the Wirraway suffers from the same altitude problems afaik As well as many other problems.

modrow -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/4/2008 11:48:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk quote: ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner Also the Wirraway suffers from the same altitude problems afaik As well as many other problems. You mean when they are shot down, it is a mercy killing ?

PzB74 -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/5/2008 12:01:06 AM)
Well, resources are dwindling but the Empire can manage another round of Total War! I can feel the enemy's resolve is dwindling and our troops are beginning to think they can prevail [8D] Today enemy fleets left Amami for the first time and although we lost another dozen transports most of the troops are ashore and supply situation improved. Bad weather gave us a much needed respite and all major bases in Okinawas and Amami are back in business [:D] No more retreat but only fight!!!!! Next time wAndy returns Shindens will drop from the sky like a blitz of lightning [sm=00000622.gif] Hopefully the Allies will understand that the Empire can not be defeated and sue for peace soon! BONSAI!!! [&o] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/28/45 Sub/ASW Attacks Sub attack near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AK Awata Maru, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Kete ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surface Combat Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AK Bandoeng Maru, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk Allied Ships PT PT-581 PT PT-582 PT PT-583 PT PT-584 PT PT-585 Japanese ground losses: 42 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Kadina at 54,45 Japanese Ships AK Gyoun Maru, Shell hits 31, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships PT PT-542 PT PT-543 PT PT-544 PT PT-566 PT PT-567 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AK Kinkasan Maru, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships DD Charles Hughes DD Duncan DD Lansdowne Japanese ground losses: 63 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships MSW W.14, Shell hits 10, and is sunk Allied Ships DD Charles Hughes DD Duncan DD Lansdowne -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AK Nittei Maru, Shell hits 14, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships DD Charles Hughes DD Duncan DD Lansdowne Japanese ground losses: 31 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AK Ehime Maru, Shell hits 16, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships DD Wiley DD Yarnall DD Mayo Japanese ground losses: 63 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AK Cheribon Maru, Shell hits 18, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships DD Wiley DD Yarnall DD Mayo Japanese ground losses: 42 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AG AG-2089, Shell hits 20, and is sunk Allied Ships DD Wiley DD Yarnall DD Mayo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AK Taijun Maru, Shell hits 19, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships DD Charles Hughes DD Duncan DD Lansdowne Japanese ground losses: 99 casualties reported Guns lost 13 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AK Syunsei Maru, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships DD Wiley DD Yarnall DD Mayo Japanese ground losses: 31 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AK Awata Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire Allied Ships DE Hurst DE Inch -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 54,46 Japanese Ships AK Bunzan Maru, Shell hits 102, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships PT PT-568 PT PT-569 PT PT-570 PT PT-571 PT PT-572 PT PT-573 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat at 55,44 Japanese Ships AK Taijun Maru, Shell hits 14, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Australia CL Oklahoma City DD John R. Pierce DD Wadsworth DD Walker DD Waller DD Wedderburn DE Samuel S. Miles DE Osterhaus DE Parks DE Riddle DE Roberts DE J.R.Y. Blakely Japanese ground losses: 76 casualties reported Guns lost 12 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45 Japanese aircraft J7W Shinden x 30 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4 Allied aircraft F-5A Lightning x 3 PB4Y Liberator x 5 B-24J Liberator x 49 Japanese aircraft losses J7W Shinden: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses PB4Y Liberator: 4 damaged B-24J Liberator: 10 destroyed, 16 damaged Japanese ground losses: 13 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44 Allied aircraft F-5C Lightning x 2 P-51D Mustang x 11 P-61A Black Widow x 4 B-29 Superfortress x 6 Allied aircraft losses B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 15 casualties reported Runway hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 69,50 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 9 P1Y Frances x 9 Ki-67 Peggy x 6 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 6 damaged P1Y Frances: 6 damaged Ki-67 Peggy: 1 damaged Allied Ships DD Clarence Bronson, Torpedo hits 1, on fire DD Wilkes DD Arunta -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat Ground combat at 18,20 Allied Shock attack Attacking force 3122 troops, 12 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 31 Defending force 2654 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 75 Allied max assault: 58 - adjusted assault: 22 Japanese max defense: 66 - adjusted defense: 126 Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 22 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Allied ground losses: 37 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Bombay Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 37620 troops, 457 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1485 Defending force 87848 troops, 593 guns, 187 vehicles, Assault Value = 1153 Japanese ground losses: 53 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Amami Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 248481 troops, 1825 guns, 1019 vehicles, Assault Value = 4696 Defending force 75283 troops, 539 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 1534 Japanese ground losses: 384 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Vehicles lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 27,9 Allied Shock attack Attacking force 4530 troops, 0 guns, 210 vehicles, Assault Value = 112 Defending force 3138 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 52 Allied max assault: 196 - adjusted assault: 43 Japanese max defense: 29 - adjusted defense: 9 Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 115 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Allied ground losses: 36 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shindens rule the skies [image]local://upfiles/1466/1C0AC65F739248E090080FA6F6EB005E.jpg[/image]

Fishbed -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/5/2008 1:09:26 AM)
quote: Allied Ships DD Clarence Bronson, Torpedo hits 1, on fire DD Wilkes DD Arunta Gosh is that THE original HMAS Arunta [X(] At least a 1941 ship you didn't sink yet...? [:D]

vettim89 -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/5/2008 1:14:52 AM)
First I would like to say that I am a big fan of this AAR. As an Allied Fanboy, it is a tutorial in defensive strategy. Not that you could have been stopped in early 1942 but seeing what you have accomplished is a strong warning to all us AFB that we are in a precarious position to start the war and better act like it. Second I would like to respond to a couple of statements that were made: Gee PZB you lost more planes this week than I build against tabpub in 6 months! OH, to have such resources at my fingertips Your running of the Japanese economy may be your greatest triumph here. Per my previous post I am amazed at the resources you still have available at this stage of the game[&o] That said, WiTP is so obviously tilted to the Japanese as far as this goes that it is silly. I'm guessing you stopped Nate and Nell production immediately and converted those units to Oscars and Betty's (SOP for JFB from what I've read). What if the Allied player could stop P-39 production on 8 Dec 1941 and convert all those factories to P-40's? What if the Allied player could stop say B-26 production and convert all those factories to B-24's? And of course as soon as P-38's came on line, all P-40 production would cease. But no the Allied player keeps producing lesser types long after the better ones become available. Just saying if the playing field were level, it would change the game Hopefully the Allies will understand that the Empire can not be defeated and sue for peace soon! No offense but from a historical view Japan has lost. It's access to SRA is cut and it's economy will soon grind to a halt. That said, I have to wonder if your play had been the historical model if Japan really might have been able to sue for peace in 1942 on its terms and get it. With the fall of India, if Japan had then turn south to Oz and threatened to annex the Aussies, maybe the Allies would have listened. Makes one wonder. I honestly beleive that if the real war had gone the way your game went, there was a truly good chance the UK at least would have capitulated. One wonders. So in my mind, Emporer PZBito has already won the war.

PzB74 -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/5/2008 1:36:59 AM)
The Arunta is one of the lucky ships together with the carrier Wasp [8\|] Thx Vettim, I was pretty green when I started plaing this game. Was my first WitP game ever and I had very little experience with production. So whether I stopped, started or converted correctly is impossible to say. The only thing I was aware of was that I should not increase production or facilities to much. Andy was appalled to find the Singapore repair yards had not been expanded at all when he marched in there [;)] The same applies for a lot of factories, shipyards etc. I have simply converted factories and only slightly increased them in size. Engine factories needed to be expanded, but even here I see that more would have been needed. The B26 Marauder was a medium bomber, so I don't think it would be possible to convert it into producing heavy bombers in a game without PDU. But I understand your point and I also see that Japan is squeezed into a corner. Andy has pushed beyond almost all limits and capabilities in order to pursue an invasion of Japan and maybe pull of a last minute victory. I'm not like Hoepner who continues to play the gent when Troll goes rampaging using any means. My policy is an eye for an eye and if Andy pursues a strategy of massive death and destruction without any consideration for his men and ships - I do the same and feel that the Japanese were much more obliged to obey such an order than the Allies were. All honor to Andy, he has made this game a lot more exciting than I thought it could become back in 42 when India fell. I'm still going to do my best to show that the cost of not securing your supply lines before conducting another 'jump' is to costly in the long run. I'm pretty sure a real life invasion of Japan would have been immensely costly, mostly for the Japs but also for the poor Marines that would have to slug it out with millions of die hard troops and militia. The only way Japan could have secured a separate peace with the Allies would be if the USSR surrendered to Germany. Then I think the Allies would have had to concentrate all their strength to defeat the biggest evil and most dangerous foe. The Nazi war machine was a lot more modern and dangerous to the Allies than the Empire of Japan could ever become. If Germany was defeated Japan would be doomed....

Fishbed -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/5/2008 1:45:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PzB The Arunta is one of the lucky ships together with the carrier Wasp [8\|] HMAS Arunta was awarded 48 battle stars, one Victoria Cross, twenty-five Georges Cross, one Congressional Medal of Honor, two Presidential Citations, three Legion d'Honneur & one order of Lenin for its Allied service in the Pacific. It is now a floating museum in Sydney.

vettim89 -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/5/2008 1:50:47 AM)
The only way Japan could have secured a separate peace with the Allies would be if the USSR surrendered to Germany. Then I think the Allies would have had to concentrate all their strength to defeat the biggest evil and most dangerous foe. The Nazi war machine was a lot more modern and dangerous to the Allies than the Empire of Japan could ever become. If Germany was defeated Japan would be doomed.... If true, then instead of going for India youshould have taken out the USSR. While not nearly as fun from the game perspective perhaps but in terms of course of the World War, perhaps actually better serving Japan's end game. Could the Russians have survived if facing a two front war in 1942. Historically we saw what it did to the Germans. While part of me has a hard time seeing the Allies capitulating to the Japanese under any circumstances, part of me wonders what would have been the effect of losing India entirely. An intesting picture would be India in Japanese hand and Japenes troops massed in SE Australia ready to put the Coup d' Grace on Oz. What if the Japanese made overtures at that point? Certainly a point for conjecture but it is an interesting scenario

PzB74 -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/5/2008 2:11:17 AM)
To bad I didn't go to Sydney when I was down under...only had an old frigate in Brisbane! I've never been to happy with the ground combat model in WitP so I never considered invading the USSR. The invasion of China was stopped because ground combat wasn't working properly. India I mostly considered as an amph invasion. From a historical point of view there is no doubt that Japan would have been much better of helping Germany, but they had entirely their own agenda and after receiving a spanking in 39' they weren't keen on another conflict with the Russians. I also think the Japs were overstretched as it was by mid 1942. A campaign into India could have succeeded if supported by a major internal uprising. I suggest that you read "Nemesis" by Max Hastings - the Battle for Japan, 44-45. Excellent read. He also wrote "Armageddon" - same story for Germany, 44-45. Here's a link: Nemesis

Fishbed -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/5/2008 2:15:49 AM)
quote: To bad I didn't go to Sydney when I was down under...only had an old frigate in Brisbane! That's our alternative reality version of HMAS Arunta, Admiral [:-] Do you believe any ship could somehow expect to get 48 battle stars, 1 VC and 1 CMOH in the real war? This is not the HMAS Arunta from the real war - this is the lucky HMAS Arunta from the great, murderous, PzB war [:D]

PzB74 -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/5/2008 2:36:03 AM)
LOL! Never noticed there were 48 battle stars Fish - I should be getting to bed [;)]

PzB74 -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/5/2008 9:26:41 PM)
Another good day for the Empire [8D] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/29/45 Enemy fleets moved back to Amami and met minefields and CD guns! The MSWs got a rude surprise.... [:D] In addition a fleet oiler and an AE were severely damaged by mines. TF 1040 encounters mine field at Amami (56,44) Allied Ships DE J.R.Y. Blakely DE Roberts DE Riddle DE Parks DD Walker DD Wadsworth -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1044 encounters mine field at Amami (56,44) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 55 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships MSW Competent MSW Champion, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage MSW Prevail, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage MSW Spear MSW Swallow, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage AO Tomahawk, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DE Hissem DE Formoe -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1057 encounters mine field at Amami (56,44) Allied Ships MSW Saunter MSW Starling MSW Revenge DE Wingfield AE Nitro, Mine hits 4, on fire, heavy damage DE Waterman DE Edsall -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surface Combat Our transports have mostly unloaded and had to pay the price... Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AK Nittei Maru, Shell hits 22, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Australia CL Oklahoma City DD John R. Pierce DD Wadsworth DD Walker DD Waller DD Wedderburn DE Samuel S. Miles DE Osterhaus DE Parks DE Riddle DE Roberts DE J.R.Y. Blakely Japanese ground losses: 38 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tried to send 2 destroyers east of Amami...only to run headlong into a monster size TF. Night Time Surface Combat at 55,44 Japanese Ships DD Natsuzuki, Shell hits 27, and is sunk DD Sakaki, Shell hits 22, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Marblehead, Shell hits 1 CLAA Flint CL Cleveland CL Birmingham CL Mobile CL Pasadena CA Northampton DD Bennett DD Bennion DD Conway DD Cotten DD Foote DD Hale DD Halford DD Newcomb, Shell hits 1 CA Hobart DD Bancroft DD Meade DD Forrest DD Macomb DD Rodman DE Underhill DE Weeden DE Willmarth DE Wiseman DE Richard S. Bull DE Dennis DE Cecil J. Doyle DE Haas DE Heyliger DE Edwin A. Howard DE Hutchins DE Jaccard DE Robert F. Keller DE Bright DE Burrows DE Ebert DE Eisner DE Roche DE Snyder DE Rhodes DE Ricketts DE Stockdale DE Austin DE Brackett DE Cabana -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AK Syunsei Maru, Shell hits 23, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Australia CL Oklahoma City DD John R. Pierce DD Wadsworth DD Walker DD Waller DD Wedderburn DE Samuel S. Miles DE Osterhaus DE Parks DE Riddle DE Roberts DE J.R.Y. Blakely Japanese ground losses: 38 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AP Taijima Maru, Shell hits 47, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Australia CL Oklahoma City DD John R. Pierce DD Wadsworth DD Walker DD Waller DD Wedderburn DE Samuel S. Miles DE Osterhaus DE Parks DE Riddle DE Roberts DE J.R.Y. Blakely -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AK Awata Maru, Shell hits 15, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Australia CL Oklahoma City DD John R. Pierce DD Wadsworth DD Walker DD Waller DD Wedderburn DE Samuel S. Miles DE Osterhaus DE Parks DE Riddle DE Roberts DE J.R.Y. Blakely -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships MSW W.22, Shell hits 9, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Australia CL Oklahoma City DD John R. Pierce DD Wadsworth DD Walker DD Waller DD Wedderburn DE Samuel S. Miles DE Osterhaus DE Parks DE Riddle DE Roberts DE J.R.Y. Blakely -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AK Shunsei Maru, Shell hits 28, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Australia CL Oklahoma City DD John R. Pierce DD Wadsworth DD Walker DD Waller DD Wedderburn DE Samuel S. Miles DE Osterhaus DE Parks DE Riddle DE Roberts DE J.R.Y. Blakely -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AG AG-105 AG AG-108 AG AG-115 AG AG-353 AG AG-5071 AG AG-5113, Shell hits 1, and is sunk AG AG-5114 AG AG-5116, Shell hits 4, and is sunk AG AG-5160, Shell hits 3, and is sunk AG AG-2052, Shell hits 9, and is sunk AG AG-2060 AG AG-2085 AG AG-2090 Allied Ships CL Australia CL Oklahoma City DD John R. Pierce DD Wadsworth DD Walker DD Waller DD Wedderburn DE Samuel S. Miles DE Osterhaus DE Parks DE Riddle DE Roberts DE J.R.Y. Blakely -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AK Sado Maru, Shell hits 41, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Australia CL Oklahoma City DD John R. Pierce DD Wadsworth DD Walker DD Waller DD Wedderburn DE Samuel S. Miles DE Osterhaus DE Parks DE Riddle DE Roberts DE J.R.Y. Blakely -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AK Ryuzin Maru, Shell hits 35, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Australia CL Oklahoma City DD John R. Pierce DD Wadsworth DD Walker DD Waller DD Wedderburn DE Samuel S. Miles DE Osterhaus DE Parks DE Riddle DE Roberts DE J.R.Y. Blakely -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AK Hachirogata Maru, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Australia CL Oklahoma City DD John R. Pierce DD Wadsworth DD Walker DD Waller DD Wedderburn DE Samuel S. Miles DE Osterhaus DE Parks DE Riddle DE Roberts DE J.R.Y. Blakely -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AK Unyo Maru #2, Shell hits 27, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Australia CL Oklahoma City DD John R. Pierce DD Wadsworth DD Walker DD Waller DD Wedderburn DE Samuel S. Miles DE Osterhaus DE Parks DE Riddle DE Roberts DE J.R.Y. Blakely -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships AP Nichiren Maru, Shell hits 64, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Australia CL Oklahoma City DD John R. Pierce DD Wadsworth DD Walker DD Waller DD Wedderburn DE Samuel S. Miles DE Osterhaus DE Parks DE Riddle DE Roberts DE J.R.Y. Blakely -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships MSW W.23, Shell hits 5, and is sunk MSW Banshu Maru #56, Shell hits 4, and is sunk MSW Wa 22, Shell hits 6, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Australia CL Oklahoma City DD John R. Pierce DD Wadsworth DD Walker DD Waller DD Wedderburn DE Samuel S. Miles DE Osterhaus DE Parks DE Riddle DE Roberts DE J.R.Y. Blakely -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bombardments Don't understand why Andy use these giant size bombardment TFs. 7-8 capital ships is enough in each TF. Naval bombardment of Amami, at 56,44 Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses J7W Shinden: 5 destroyed Japanese Ships AP Hikade Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire Allied Ships CA Houston CA Detroit CA Chicago CA Chester CA Indianapolis CA Portland CA Astoria CA Louisville CA Canberra CA New Orleans CA Guam CA Boston CA Baltimore CA Wichita CA Tuscaloosa CA Minneapolis BB Texas BB New York BB Arkansas BB Missouri BB Iowa BB Alabama BB Massachusetts BB Washington BB Idaho Japanese ground losses: 2852 casualties reported Guns lost 67 Vehicles lost 2 Airbase hits 3 Runway hits 31 Port hits 3 Port fuel hits 1 Port supply hits 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Bombay, at 20,10 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 54 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships CL Santa Fe, Shell hits 2 CL Nashville CL Phoenix, Shell hits 15 CLAA San Diego CA Shropshire BB North Carolina BB California BB Colorado, Shell hits 14 Japanese ground losses: 422 casualties reported Guns lost 12 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10 Japanese aircraft Ki-100 Tony x 10 Allied aircraft Vengeance I x 6 Liberator VI x 15 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-100 Tony: 3 damaged Allied aircraft losses Vengeance I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Liberator VI: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged Japanese ground losses: 127 casualties reported Airbase hits 1 Port hits 5 Port supply hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So it starts [8D] Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45 Japanese aircraft J7W Shinden x 76 Ki-84-Ic Frank x 9 Allied aircraft F-5A Lightning x 2 PB4Y Liberator x 6 B-24J Liberator x 58 Japanese aircraft losses J7W Shinden: 3 destroyed, 31 damaged Ki-84-Ic Frank: 1 destroyed D4Y Judy: 2 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F-5A Lightning: 1 destroyed PB4Y Liberator: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged B-24J Liberator: 21 destroyed, 16 damaged Japanese ground losses: 19 casualties reported Runway hits 18 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44 Japanese aircraft J7W Shinden x 45 C6N1-S Myrt x 20 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 18 Allied aircraft F-5C Lightning x 3 P-51D Mustang x 5 B-29 Superfortress x 6 Japanese aircraft losses J7W Shinden: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged C6N1-S Myrt: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-51D Mustang: 5 destroyed B-29 Superfortress: 4 destroyed Japanese ground losses: 12 casualties reported Runway hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44 Japanese aircraft J7W Shinden x 44 C6N1-S Myrt x 7 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8 Allied aircraft PB4Y Liberator x 6 B-24J Liberator x 21 B-29 Superfortress x 6 Japanese aircraft losses J7W Shinden: 7 damaged C6N1-S Myrt: 2 damaged Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses PB4Y Liberator: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged B-24J Liberator: 7 destroyed, 6 damaged B-29 Superfortress: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Runway hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44 Japanese aircraft J7W Shinden x 36 C6N1-S Myrt x 7 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8 Allied aircraft B-29 Superfortress x 99 Japanese aircraft losses J7W Shinden: 13 destroyed, 11 damaged C6N1-S Myrt: 2 damaged Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-29 Superfortress: 18 destroyed, 30 damaged Japanese ground losses: 347 casualties reported Guns lost 5 Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44 Japanese aircraft J7W Shinden x 17 C6N1-S Myrt x 7 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7 Allied aircraft B-29 Superfortress x 57 Japanese aircraft losses J7W Shinden: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged C6N1-S Myrt: 2 damaged Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-29 Superfortress: 3 destroyed, 15 damaged Japanese ground losses: 86 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 5 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 56 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46 Japanese aircraft J7W Shinden x 63 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 5 Ki-84-Ic Frank x 12 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 20 Japanese aircraft losses J7W Shinden: 1 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed Ki-84-Ic Frank: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-38J Lightning: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Our LBA is suddenly free to harass enemy shipping and 20!!! ships are hit [:D] Day Air attack on TF at 53,45 Japanese aircraft J7W Shinden x 2 D4Y Judy x 3 B6N Jill x 2 B7A Grace x 13 G4M2 Betty x 5 Japanese aircraft losses B6N Jill: 1 destroyed B7A Grace: 5 damaged G4M2 Betty: 3 damaged Allied Ships AK Frank H. Evers DE Thomas J. Gary AK Michael J. Monohan DE Charles E. Brannon AK Sylvester Pattie AK George R. Poole AK Terry E. Stephenson, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DE Ulvert M. Moore -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 53,45 Japanese aircraft B7A Grace x 3 G4M2 Betty x 14 P1Y Frances x 27 Ki-49 Helen x 5 Ki-67 Peggy x 3 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 2 damaged P1Y Frances: 2 destroyed, 14 damaged Ki-67 Peggy: 1 damaged Allied Ships DE Brister DE McGinty, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Enos A. Mills, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AK George Middlemas AK Michael Pupin AK T. A. Johnston AK Ephraim W. Baughman, Torpedo hits 1, on fire LCI(G) LCI(G)-543 AK Edwin D. Howard LCI(R) LCS(L)-15, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Stephen T. Mather, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Stephen Smith, Bomb hits 1, on fire AK Harold Dossett, Torpedo hits 1, on fire LCI(M) LCI(M)-588, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DE Thomas J. Gary, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Sylvester Pattie AK Frank H. Evers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 53,45 Japanese aircraft Ki-67 Peggy x 9 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-67 Peggy: 2 damaged Allied Ships DE Thomas J. Gary, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Stephen W. Kearny, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Michael Pupin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 72,52 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 9 P1Y Frances x 6 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 9 damaged P1Y Frances: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied Ships DD Wilkes, Torpedo hits 1, on fire DD Clarence Bronson, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 55,44 Japanese aircraft Ki-67 Peggy x 7 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 6 F6F Hellcat x 33 F4U-1 Corsair x 8 F4U-1D Corsair x 15 Corsair IV x 5 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-67 Peggy: 6 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 6 damaged F4U-1D Corsair: 3 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 53,45 Japanese aircraft J7W Shinden x 16 D4Y Judy x 2 B7A Grace x 7 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 3 Ki-84-Ic Frank x 7 Japanese aircraft losses B7A Grace: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied Ships DE Camp AK Harold H. Brown, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Oliver Westover AK Grover C. Hutcherson, Torpedo hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 53,45 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 6 P1Y Frances x 12 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 5 damaged P1Y Frances: 9 damaged Allied Ships AK Frederick Austin, Torpedo hits 1, on fire DE Charles E. Brannon AK Frank H. Evers AK Glamorgan Seam, Torpedo hits 1, on fire LCI(M) LCI(M)-582, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat Ground combat at Bombay Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 37678 troops, 457 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1486 Defending force 87272 troops, 581 guns, 187 vehicles, Assault Value = 1144 Japanese ground losses: 101 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Amami Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 250476 troops, 1869 guns, 1020 vehicles, Assault Value = 4908 Defending force 71793 troops, 457 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 1535 Japanese ground losses: 438 casualties reported Guns lost 6 Vehicles lost 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 28,8 Allied Shock attack Attacking force 4461 troops, 0 guns, 207 vehicles, Assault Value = 109 Defending force 2140 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 36 Allied max assault: 188 - adjusted assault: 56 Japanese max defense: 20 - adjusted defense: 3 Allied assault odds: 18 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 128 casualties reported Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Continued Air Battles [image]local://upfiles/1466/ECF7848F67EF4F46A9992D58EAC46213.jpg[/image]

PzB74 -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/6/2008 4:35:36 AM)
Aahh, server timed out and I wasn't even logged in anymore [X(] Good thing I always copy out the text before posting. Takes time with these big reports. Another day of intense A2A combat - we refuse to give in and inflict more heavy casualties on enemy CAG and 4Es. Bad weather makes it all a gamble - if bad weather had shut down enemy carriers that launched 80 Corsairs in a sweep today enemy losses would have been twice as high. This was the last day of November, the fighting will most likely continue well into December! If we can only hold for a little longer there will be no time for the enemy to rest and prepare for another round. Amami itself is of little value if this goal can be achieved. We lost lots of transports today, most have been lightly loaded and even empty. The number of troops brought in has been relatively small, mostly supply runs. Didn't expect the battle for an atoll to drag out for so long and now I regret moving supplies from Amami to Kadina [:'(] Time to let it up as Andy has brought back a lot of surface ships to deal with them. I read in 'Nemesis' - the Battle for Japan 44-45 - that the Japs used all kinds of small ships, including sailing schooners to send men and supplies to reinforce the garrison after the landings at Leyte in October 44. Losses were horrendous of course... We don't have schooners so I decided to use a limited number of transports - still have hundreds of them lying idle in the Home Islands - but I've tried not to overdo it. A special mission called: "Ground ship and unload supplies" could be needed here [8\|] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/30/45 Sub/ASW Attacks Sub attack at 58,44 Japanese Ships MSW Tomozono Maru #3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage PG Uji Allied Ships SS Harder -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bombardments Naval bombardment of Amami, at 56,44 Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses J7W Shinden: 2 destroyed Allied Ships CA Houston CA Detroit CA Chicago CA Chester CA Indianapolis CA Portland CA Astoria CA Louisville CA Canberra CA New Orleans CA Guam CA Boston CA Baltimore CA Wichita CA Tuscaloosa CA Minneapolis BB Texas BB New York BB Arkansas BB Missouri BB Iowa BB Alabama BB Massachusetts BB Washington BB Idaho Japanese ground losses: 1091 casualties reported Guns lost 15 Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 30 Port supply hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10 Japanese aircraft Ki-100 Tony x 7 Allied aircraft F4U-1D Corsair x 19 TBM Avenger x 14 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-100 Tony: 6 destroyed Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged Japanese ground losses: 12 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Port hits 1 Port supply hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10 Allied aircraft Vengeance I x 4 Liberator VI x 8 Allied aircraft losses Vengeance I: 2 damaged Liberator VI: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 68 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Runway hits 1 Port hits 2 Port supply hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10 Allied aircraft Liberator VI x 12 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 68 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Port hits 3 Port supply hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45 Japanese aircraft N1K1-J George x 7 J7W Shinden x 51 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 6 Ki-84-Ic Frank x 6 Allied aircraft F-5A Lightning x 1 PB4Y Liberator x 3 B-24J Liberator x 11 Japanese aircraft losses J7W Shinden: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses PB4Y Liberator: 3 destroyed B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 24 J7W Shinden x 34 C6N1-S Myrt x 20 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 11 Ki-84-Ic Frank x 30 Ki-100 Tony x 23 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 12 F4U-1D Corsair x 44 Corsair IV x 18 Japanese aircraft losses - the usual silly dilly results when Corsairs are about. They're still more deadly than the Shindens! 174 of our fighters shot down by 74 Corsairs which lost 47 of their own numbers. A7M2 Reppu: 25 destroyed J7W Shinden: 40 destroyed C6N1-S Myrt: 19 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 15 destroyed Ki-84-Ic Frank: 39 destroyed Ki-100 Tony: 36 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged F4U-1D Corsair: 34 destroyed Corsair IV: 11 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fortunately enough CAP fighters were left to wing a lot of enemy bombers and some CAG fighters. Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 13 J7W Shinden x 22 C6N1-S Myrt x 2 Ki-84-Ic Frank x 7 Allied aircraft F-5C Lightning x 3 P-51D Mustang x 18 P-61A Black Widow x 16 B-29 Superfortress x 6 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 4 destroyed J7W Shinden: 8 destroyed, 3 damaged C6N1-S Myrt: 2 destroyed Ki-84-Ic Frank: 5 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F-5C Lightning: 1 destroyed P-51D Mustang: 16 destroyed P-61A Black Widow: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 5 Aircraft Attacking: 3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet 3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 3 J7W Shinden x 8 Ki-84-Ic Frank x 1 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 12 B-24J Liberator x 43 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 1 damaged J7W Shinden: 5 destroyed Ki-84-Ic Frank: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 8 destroyed B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged Japanese ground losses: 6 casualties reported Runway hits 25 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 3 J7W Shinden x 8 Ki-84-Ic Frank x 1 Allied aircraft B-29 Superfortress x 68 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 1 damaged J7W Shinden: 9 destroyed Ki-84-Ic Frank: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-29 Superfortress: 3 destroyed, 10 damaged Japanese ground losses: 55 casualties reported Airbase hits 3 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 55 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 3 J7W Shinden x 8 Allied aircraft B-29 Superfortress x 90 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 3 damaged J7W Shinden: 10 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-29 Superfortress: 2 destroyed, 12 damaged Japanese ground losses: 34 casualties reported Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 102 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 21st/B Division, at 20,10 Japanese aircraft Ki-100 Tony x 2 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 6 F6F Hellcat x 6 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 38 casualties reported Guns lost 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Bombay at 20,10 Japanese aircraft Ki-100 Tony x 2 Allied aircraft F4U-1D Corsair x 13 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged Japanese Ships AP Heiyo Maru, Shell hits 24, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 55,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 4 A6M5c Zeke x 8 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 8 F6F Hellcat x 123 F4U-1 Corsair x 16 F4U-1D Corsair x 24 Corsair IV x 18 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 4 destroyed A6M5c Zeke: 8 destroyed Allied Ships CA Hobart CL Pasadena CL Birmingham -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 55,44 Japanese aircraft Ki-67 Peggy x 3 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 4 F6F Hellcat x 116 F4U-1 Corsair x 15 F4U-1D Corsair x 19 Corsair IV x 18 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-67 Peggy: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 13 J7W Shinden x 16 C6N1-S Myrt x 10 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 3 Ki-84-Ic Frank x 7 Ki-100 Tony x 8 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 4 F4U-1D Corsair x 5 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Reppu: 5 destroyed J7W Shinden: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged C6N1-S Myrt: 3 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed Ki-84-Ic Frank: 4 destroyed Ki-100 Tony: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 3 destroyed F4U-1D Corsair: 5 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese aircraft A7M2 Reppu x 11 J7W Shinden x 16 C6N1-S Myrt x 6 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7 Ki-84-Ic Frank x 8 Ki-100 Tony x 6 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 4 F6F Hellcat x 8 F4U-1 Corsair x 2 TBM Avenger x 5 Japanese aircraft losses J7W Shinden: 1 destroyed C6N1-S Myrt: 1 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 5 destroyed Ki-84-Ic Frank: 2 destroyed Ki-100 Tony: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 4 destroyed F6F Hellcat: 8 destroyed TBM Avenger: 3 destroyed Japanese Ships AP Hikade Maru Aircraft Attacking: 2 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 53,45 Japanese aircraft B7A Grace x 3 G4M2 Betty x 3 P1Y Frances x 6 Ki-49 Helen x 3 Ki-67 Peggy x 2 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 2 damaged P1Y Frances: 1 damaged Allied Ships AO Tomahawk, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage MSW Prevail, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage MSW Swallow, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daytime Surface Combat 15 ships and 5 barges were sunk by this uber sized TF. Only showing one encounter not to bore you to death!-) Day Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44 Japanese Ships PG Uji, Shell hits 6, and is sunk Allied Ships BB Idaho BB Washington BB Massachusetts BB Alabama BB Iowa BB Missouri BB Arkansas BB New York BB Texas CA Minneapolis CA Tuscaloosa CA Wichita CA Baltimore CA Boston CA Guam CA New Orleans CA Canberra CA Louisville CA Astoria CA Portland CA Indianapolis CA Chester CA Chicago CA Detroit CA Houston -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat Enemy reduce a fort level at Bombay - by pure luck. Think we can hold even without forts according to the modifiers given here! Ground combat at Bombay Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 66846 troops, 666 guns, 106 vehicles, Assault Value = 1487 Defending force 87526 troops, 586 guns, 187 vehicles, Assault Value = 1148 Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 8 Allied max assault: 1389 - adjusted assault: 477 Japanese max defense: 1199 - adjusted defense: 11593 - No way Andy will break this anytime soon [:D] Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 8) Japanese ground losses: 2158 casualties reported Guns lost 11 Vehicles lost 5 Allied ground losses: 4393 casualties reported Guns lost 120 Vehicles lost 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Amami Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 252199 troops, 1894 guns, 1022 vehicles, Assault Value = 5136 Defending force 71954 troops, 471 guns, 28 vehicles, Assault Value = 1569 Japanese ground losses: 216 casualties reported Vehicles lost 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 enemy tank units have shock attacked on follow mode for 4-5 days - thus shock marching from Dehli to Lahore in half the time that should be possible....annoying. Hope this is dealt with in AE. Ground combat at 28,7 Allied Shock attack Attacking force 4421 troops, 0 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 109 Defending force 1499 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 25 Allied max assault: 188 - adjusted assault: 130 Japanese max defense: 14 - adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 130 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 515 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Allied ground losses: 13 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Uber TF [X(] [image]local://upfiles/1466/670B887495A94AFD9A06E5BE382F1279.jpg[/image]

CapAndGown -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/6/2008 5:22:58 AM)
Despite the superiority of the Corsairs, those Shindens are doing a good job. I wonder what the replacement rates are on those things (I mean Corsairs)? You seem to be severely damaging his airforce. (plus, all the ones that went down with the CVEs!) Edited for clarity

vettim89 -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/6/2008 6:01:47 AM)
Its like driving past a car wreck on the road - you know you shouldn't look but you just can't help yourself. everytime I see a new post by PzB, I have to stop in and see what happened. The carnage, the carnage, oh the humanity

Nemo121 -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/6/2008 7:39:23 AM)
PzB, I know you are probably aware of this but sequential sweeps seem to really destroy enemy CAP---- it has to comprise, IMO, a minimum of 3 sequential sweeps but by the end of the third one the enemy CAP's casualty-causing ability�will be severely attrited ( and this is the key ), even in the absence of significant casualties to that CAP. Just suggesting it since he seems to have created a situation where he is going to have to bring another wave of troops into Amami and that'll give you the opportunity to launch multiple sweeps from multiple bases, combined with bomber strikes. As an aside: While the losses are massive what's REALLY interesting is that overall these losses, if spread across the Allied inventory, mean that AndyMac should be winning and winning handily - this isn't the case because he is concentrating his losses in what is his most fragile aerial component right now ( the USN ). This is bad strategy indeed. Why do I say this? Well, Andy has taken roughly 200 losses in flying 8,000 missions today, that's a 2.5% loss rate which is within the rate of continuous sustainability ( defined as being sustainable without requiring significant periods of standing down and rebuilding ) while PzB has lost 314 planes in 2,000 sorties which is a loss rate of 15% - well beyond the rate of anything sustainable. Unfortunately for Andy these figures are misleading as at least 126 of the Allied losses came out of the USN pilot pool. In effect some 60% of his losses ( minimum ) have to be replaced by somewhat under 30% of his pilot replacements. So while, overall, it looks like he is operating at continuous sustainability he is, in fact, operating with unsustainable loss levels to the component ( USN ) he is using as his spearhead time and time again. I don't know if he is nearing the 15% figure as I'd need a full day's CR and loss report to calculate that but he is definitely well above what is sustainable. The only question really is is whether he is double it or triple it or quadruple it. Obviously this is only one day's figures but the overall thrust holds true when you average out the losses in the "plane loss screen" on other days.

pat.casey -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/6/2008 8:56:15 AM)
Nemo, I think Andy's problem is precisely what you describe in that he can't force PzB to stand and fight his LBA fighters. Anywhere in range of Andy's LBA PzB just withdraws. Which means to bring his superior LBA into the fray, Andy has to back PzB up against something he has to defend, which at this point in the game means the home islands. So Andy desperately needs a fighter base in range of the Home islands, which is precisely why he's invading Amani now. I'm sure he'd desperately love to spread his losses over his army replacement and pilot pool, but that's not practical until after Amani falls (and even then I question whether one air base is going to be worth the loss in operational momentum, but that's another issue). Point being, I think Andy's got no choice except to grind it out with his navy pilots and hope PzB runs out of airframes before he does.

Nemo121 -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/6/2008 9:16:33 AM)
Pat, Well the mother of all victories is the shaping of the battlefield you've been doing for the past 6 months to year. Andy is in trouble now because over the past year while he has noticed and b*tched about the problem of attriting PzB more than PzB has attrited him he hasn't actually managed to achieve anything concrete in terms of attriting PzB's pilots without running his own USN pilots down. Now he is simply paying the final toll for his failure to write down the IJA and IJN fighter strength over the previous campaigns. His failure isn't so much in this campaign ( where certain operational realities dictate which portions of his pool must bear the brunt of losses ) but in the previous series of campaigns wherein he hasn't ever brought the hammer of his army and USMC pilot pools to bear in such a manner that the Japanese aerial forces have been truly shattered. Time and again he has told PzB that his USN pilot pools and plane replacement rates are too low but when have we seen concerted and sustained operations aimed at shattering PzB's fighters with USAAF fighter sweeps? Answer, never. We've just seen him send his carriers in again and again taking horrendous losses each time and poining out the same basic flaws on each occasion - but he hasn't done anything about rectifying those issues..... and he has had the opportunity to bring the USAAF fighters into battle in meaningful ways.

vettim89 -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/6/2008 5:00:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nemo121 Pat, Well the mother of all victories is the shaping of the battlefield you've been doing for the past 6 months to year. Andy is in trouble now because over the past year while he has noticed and b*tched about the problem of attriting PzB more than PzB has attrited him he hasn't actually managed to achieve anything concrete in terms of attriting PzB's pilots without running his own USN pilots down. Now he is simply paying the final toll for his failure to write down the IJA and IJN fighter strength over the previous campaigns. His failure isn't so much in this campaign ( where certain operational realities dictfate which portions of his pool must bear the brunt of losses ) but in the previous series of campaigns wherein he hasn't ever brought the hammer of his army and USMC pilot pools to bear in such a manner that the Japanese aerial forces have been truly shattered. Time and again he has told PzB that his USN pilot pools and plane replacement rates are too low but when have we seen concerted and sustained operations aimed at shattering PzB's fighters with USAAF fighter sweeps? Answer, never. We've just seen him send his carriers in again and again taking horrendous losses each time and poining out the same basic flaws on each occasion - but he hasn't done anything about rectifying those issues..... and he has had the opportunity to bring the USAAF fighters into battle in meaningful ways. Even yet another way this AAR is a training manual for AFB's. I see the need now to use the USN, USAAF, UMC, and Commonwealth pilots all equally now to spread the losses.

DW -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/6/2008 10:12:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nemo121 Pat, Well the mother of all victories is the shaping of the battlefield you've been doing for the past 6 months to year. Andy is in trouble now because over the past year while he has noticed and b*tched about the problem of attriting PzB more than PzB has attrited him he hasn't actually managed to achieve anything concrete in terms of attriting PzB's pilots without running his own USN pilots down. Now he is simply paying the final toll for his failure to write down the IJA and IJN fighter strength over the previous campaigns. His failure isn't so much in this campaign ( where certain operational realities dictate which portions of his pool must bear the brunt of losses ) but in the previous series of campaigns wherein he hasn't ever brought the hammer of his army and USMC pilot pools to bear in such a manner that the Japanese aerial forces have been truly shattered. Time and again he has told PzB that his USN pilot pools and plane replacement rates are too low but when have we seen concerted and sustained operations aimed at shattering PzB's fighters with USAAF fighter sweeps? Answer, never. We've just seen him send his carriers in again and again taking horrendous losses each time and poining out the same basic flaws on each occasion - but he hasn't done anything about rectifying those issues..... and he has had the opportunity to bring the USAAF fighters into battle in meaningful ways. Could you elaborate on that last statement please? I've read both AAR's in their entirety and until Andy started directly threatening the HI, I can't think of any examples where Andy was in a position to force an air battle using LBA that PZB absolutely had to fight until the recent attack on the inner ring. PZB avoided force wrecking air battles when Andy attacked the outer ring. He contested enough to slow Andy's advance by forcing him to attack important objective with a well prepared assault, but he didn't over commit and withdrew his air power before the losses began to get too expensive. And, he did it very well. The avenues of advance to attack the inner ring are limited with respect to LBA. The only real direction for Andy to attack the inner ring under powerful LBA cover is the way he's going now, and I don't see how he could have advanced the time table of that avenue of attack very much. Given the state of the game when Andy took over, I'm having a difficult time seeing what he could have done differently that would have significantly altered the current state of affairs. He might be fighting some place else now, but it would still a similar battle aimed at achieving a similar goal.

Nemo121 -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/6/2008 10:42:34 PM)
Tactics are subordinate to operations, operations are subordinate to strategy. If the strategy was to whittle down Japanes pilot pools then different, less deep operations which relied less on USN pilots forcing the way and more on small leapfrogs carried out under the cover of USAAF pilots. Look at the war over the last year, it has been one continuous saga of overly deep operations being carried out at ruinous cost far from the protecting umbrella of USAAF pilots. As to how things would differ... Well, if he had begun subsuming his tactics and operations to his great strategic goal ( of writing down the japanese experienced pilot pool ) a year ago then the operations he would have chosen to follow would have slightly different emphases and carried out slightly differently. A good metaphor here is of pushing an asteroid out of a collision path with earth. If you spot it 4 days before impact then you pretty much have to nuke it and even if you do enough fragments will hit the Earth to devastate it. If, on the other hand you spot it 369 days out then you can mount a little engine on it to give it a little lateral acceleration and over the course of time it will veer enough off course to miss completely. My point is that while it may seem like little could have been done and the battles now would be much the same I would argue that small differences snowball over time and become quite significant. The key point is that Andy identified this as a critical weakness and has done very, very little to remedy it effectively over the past year. This is a clear failing on his part and now he is most assuredly paying the price. Could it have been different? Yes, I believe so as he never focussed ruthlessly on a single objective and pursued it with all his force without being distracted by sideshows.

1275psi -> RE: The last 100 days.... (4/7/2008 12:35:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fishbed quote: ORIGINAL: PzB The Arunta is one of the lucky ships together with the carrier Wasp [8\|] HMAS Arunta was awarded 48 battle stars, one Victoria Cross, twenty-five Georges Cross, one Congressional Medal of Honor, two Presidential Citations, three Legion d'Honneur & one order of Lenin for its Allied service in the Pacific. It is now a floating museum in Sydney. regrettfully the Arunta is NOT a museum ship in Sydney She was scrapped. Ship in Sydney is the Vampire -a Daring Class destroyer. As an aside, we had an Author -JE Mc Donald who wrote a series of Gun Ho navy war novels loosley based on the Arunta's service. Real stiff upper lip -36 knots type stuff![:'(]

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