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anarchyintheuk -> RE: Allies land at Shortland (11/8/2005 8:24:29 PM)
Great Blackadder quote Honda.

Honda -> RE: Allies land at Shortland (11/8/2005 9:00:12 PM)
Since the cat is gone, mice are in charge. Give us some action PzB or we'll OT your AAR so hard you'll think it's a General Discussion forum :) Quotewise, it really cracked me. Gave me the biggest laugh of the whole series. I just noticed and had to edit...Anarchy, we joined the boards on the same day. What does that make us, twins?[:D]

anarchyintheuk -> RE: Allies land at Shortland (11/8/2005 9:32:22 PM)
Or people who were really bored on 5/5/04. [:)]

Mynok -> RE: Allies land at Shortland (11/9/2005 12:31:14 AM)
Hey look, PzB, this AAR attracts lovebugs.......... [:)]

PzB74 -> RE: Allies land at Shortland (11/9/2005 1:02:02 AM)
Hehe, good to see that you guys can manage without me for a few days [;)] Is that two lovebugs or one lovebird and one love elephant Honda!? <G> Better get back to the war, got stuck on the sofa with Star Trek...been d'loading the entire chebang. Fortunately my laptop doesn't support Civ 4 - anyone taken a look? Got this link from a friend: Civilization Anonymous - Just one more turn :-]

Honda -> RE: Allies land at Shortland (11/9/2005 1:02:22 AM)
...bugs, at least.

PzB74 -> RE: Allies land at Shortland (11/9/2005 3:18:35 AM)
The turn we replayed turned out slightly different than the last one: One of my subs that was hit by a B-24 got away without a scratch today, otherwise the changes were negative. Well..when I think about it the Yamato fixed 2-3 points of sys damage. That was also good. I'm expecting pretty heavy bombing raids in the days to come, not sure how to proceed yet but it's important to strike back whenever possible. Tomorrow A6M5 'Zekes' start coming out of the factories at a rate of 300 ac pr month. Should help a bit! AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/30/43 Air Combat A heavy air strike hit Chungking - both resources and airfields. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 32 Ki-21 Sally x 79 Ki-48 Lily x 38 Ki-49 Helen x 27 Allied aircraft I-16c x 3 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses I-16c: 1 destroyed SB-2c: 1 destroyed IL-4c: 1 destroyed Resources hits 14 Airbase hits 7 Runway hits 9 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The attack on Rabaul hurt my cruiser there more severly and it will soon sink...( Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88 Japanese aircraft Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 4 Allied aircraft B-25J Mitchell x 52 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses B-25J Mitchell: 4 destroyed, 14 damaged Japanese Ships CA Haguro, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage Japanese ground losses: 105 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Port hits 8 Port fuel hits 3 Port supply hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- An air strike from Darwin hit a supply convoy of Lautern. Day Air attack on TF, near Lautem at 33,78 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 4 A6M3 Zero x 12 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 7 Allied aircraft Beaufighter Mk 21 x 11 P-40N Warhawk x 36 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 5 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Beaufighter Mk 21: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged P-40N Warhawk: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese Ships AP Anzan Maru, Shell hits 4, Bomb hits 1 AK Kinmon Maru, Shell hits 8, Bomb hits 2, on fire --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

PzB74 -> Allies capture Shortland (11/9/2005 4:21:59 AM)
A lot of steel rain from the air.. I'm mostly 'taking it' for now. Ken has drawn another deep breath and I have to wait until he becomes winded again. 10 A6M5 Zekes in the pool after the first day of production. Good good...I will keep some A6M2s for long range escort missions and upgrade the A6M3s last as they're pretty good as it is. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/01/43 Air Combat Rabaul was hit heavily today - as expected. The Haguro sank at her moorings as well. Too bad as I was going to move her in our previous turn. Flooding was down to 68 then. Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88 Allied aircraft B-25J Mitchell x 31 Allied aircraft losses B-25J Mitchell: 4 damaged Japanese Ships CA Haguro, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage Japanese ground losses: 5 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Port hits 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 38 B-24D Liberator x 45 Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress: 13 damaged B-24D Liberator: 11 damaged Japanese ground losses: 85 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 28 Airbase supply hits 7 Runway hits 114 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88 Allied aircraft F-5A Lightning x 7 B-17E Fortress x 95 B-24D Liberator x 86 Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged Japanese Ships CA Haguro, Bomb hits 32, on fire, heavy damage AG AG-5162, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Japanese ground losses: 276 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Airbase hits 19 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 168 Port hits 23 Port fuel hits 4 Port supply hits 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat I hoped Shortland would hold out for a while but the troops were so decimated by air bombardment that it fell immediateyl. Hope the troops will resist just as well as those on Buin! Ground combat at Shortlands Allied Shock attack Attacking force 7496 troops, 44 guns, 193 vehicles Defending force 7862 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5 Allied assault odds: 27 to 1 (fort level 5) Allied forces CAPTURE Shortlands base !!! Japanese aircraft no flights No Japanese losses Japanese ground losses: 743 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 91 casualties reported Vehicles lost 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is good stuff - Ken will have some pretty worn down troops when this is over! Ground combat at Buin Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 8118 troops, 96 guns, 0 vehicles Defending force 5251 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles Allied assault odds: 42 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 26 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 155 casualties reported Guns lost 11 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

PzB74 -> RE: Allies capture Shortland (11/11/2005 3:21:33 AM)
Here are the latest couple of days: AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/02/43 Air Combat Rabaul was hit heavily again! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88 Allied aircraft B-25J Mitchell x 26 Allied aircraft losses B-25J Mitchell: 4 damaged Japanese Ships AG AG-5141, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Japanese ground losses: 31 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Port hits 2 Port fuel hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 30 B-24D Liberator x 31 Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress: 5 damaged B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged Japanese ground losses: 80 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88 Allied aircraft F-5A Lightning x 6 B-17E Fortress x 71 B-24D Liberator x 72 Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress: 5 damaged B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged Japanese Ships AG AG-5141, Bomb hits 9, heavy damage AG AG-2531, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage Japanese ground losses: 234 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 14 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 129 Port hits 16 Port supply hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The runways on Gasmata are still not clear but already after 2-3 days Allied ac sorties from the size 2 af at Gasmata. Day Air attack on TF, near Kavieng at 61,86 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 9 Avenger I x 5 P-38G Lightning x 26 P-47C Thunderbolt x 18 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Hozan Maru #5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 1 x Avenger I launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x Avenger I launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Koepang at 28,77 Allied aircraft Hudson I x 11 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Hachijin Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire PG Tamo Maru #6 Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat Ground combat at Shortlands Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 7389 troops, 43 guns, 190 vehicles Defending force 6713 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles Allied assault odds: 18 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 830 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 7 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Buin Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 7929 troops, 83 guns, 0 vehicles Defending force 5079 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles Japanese ground losses: 56 casualties reported ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Situation Map: Preparing for another round at Gasmata The map is a bit confusing but it shows the initial preparations for a second battle of Gasmata called Operation Shogun I'm not 100% convinced about this operation, but the enemy is still not established in force at Gasmata and therefore vulnerable. As soon as this base is developed into a size 4 af the situation on New Britain will become even more untenable. The enemy is still inferior in regards to surface combat units and I plan to destroy as many of these as possible as this will make it much more difficult to advance further. I've not seen anything to the US carriers, guess Ken doesn't want to risk them in confined waters within my LBA range. Not to keen on risking mine either, but only by maximising our forces can another victory be achieved. In Kavieng 80 Tojos, 20 Tonys and 35 Nick fighter bombers have been put on 90% CAP. 2 surface combat groups will move here and prepare to hit Gasmata tomorrow. The range is 6 hexes! The bombardment group including 3 Kongo class battleships have to move 1 hex closer to Gasmata (5 hexes) to be in range, this puts it in a dangerous position within range of torpedo bombers at Gasmata. The small number of enemy bombers here (only a size 2 af) makes it an acceptable risk. LRCAP from Kavieng (and probably some leakers from Kavieng) will protect it. The carriers will stay 6 hexes away from Gasmata with fighters on 90% CAP. Tomorrow a combined attack will go in: First 2 surface combat groups will move into Gasmata followed by the bombardment group. I expect to take losses, especially from LBA bases on Torokina after the battle. The plan is to close or disrupt the airfields as much as possible. After the naval battles 140 Army bombers will hit Gasmata from the Admirality Islands and Kavieng escorted by Oscar IIs and Zeros. The Tojos at Kavieng will attempt to sweep Gasmata to clear away the remaining CAP. Some 80 Bettys will then be ready on naval attack as the poweful carrier task forces move to within 3 hexes of Gasmata. The surviving enemy shipping will then be destroyed. Risky...but necessary! [image]local://upfiles/1466/B83623E6658E4BEFBEE1DE02CDE9B6E8.gif[/image]

PzB74 -> RE: Allies capture Shortland (11/11/2005 3:23:53 AM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/03/43 Most of my A6M2/3 factories auto upgraded to A6M5 - maximum capacity is now some 450 :p) I will run a full production run for 4-5 months to upgrade obsolete units ASAP and create a pool of some 1500 units. Air Combat My Kavieng CAP claimed several heavies today... Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88 Japanese aircraft Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 10 Allied aircraft F-5A Lightning x 4 B-17E Fortress x 31 B-24D Liberator x 25 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses F-5A Lightning: 1 destroyed B-17E Fortress: 4 destroyed, 10 damaged B-24D Liberator: 2 destroyed, 8 damaged Japanese ground losses: 81 casualties reported Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 51 Port hits 1 Port fuel hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ken tried to intercept my convoy at Lautern - he was 1 day late and I sent some Zeros to strafe him! Day Air attack on TF at 35,82 Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 19 No Japanese losses Allied Ships PT PT-354 PT PT-352, Shell hits 4 PT PT-353, Shell hits 8 PT PT-350, Shell hits 4 PT PT-347 PT PT-345, Shell hits 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 35,82 Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 17 No Japanese losses Allied Ships PT PT-351 PT PT-347, Shell hits 4 PT PT-345, Shell hits 8, on fire PT PT-355 PT PT-350, Shell hits 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Only a few bombers attack my vulnerable battleships! They get away with it... Day Air attack on TF at 60,87 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 24 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 12 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 3 Avenger I x 3 P-38G Lightning x 7 P-47C Thunderbolt x 6 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 1 damaged Avenger I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged P-38G Lightning: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese Ships BB Kongo Aircraft Attacking: 2 x Avenger I launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A larger strike goes after my agile cruiser squadron at Kavieng! The heavy CAP hits the attackers hard and the first 2 Thunderbolt kills are registered. The Nicks are surprisingly effective against the Lightings, guess they were fatigued. The Oi takes a bomb hit that inflicts 30 sys damage and some fires - returning to Truk. One of the heavy cruisers is hit by a dud torpedo and gets away with it. The initial gamble has been a success! 35 Allied ac shot down for the loss of 23 Japanese today. Day Air attack on TF, near Kavieng at 61,86 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 34 Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 22 Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 22 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 15 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 2 SBD Dauntless x 9 Avenger I x 10 P-38G Lightning x 22 P-47C Thunderbolt x 6 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged Ki-45 KAIb Nick: 5 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed SBD Dauntless: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged Avenger I: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged P-38G Lightning: 14 destroyed P-47C Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese Ships CA Mikuma DD Hamakaze CL Oi, Bomb hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 2 x Avenger I launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x Avenger I launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet 3 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat Ground combat at Shortlands Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 7418 troops, 43 guns, 190 vehicles Defending force 5521 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles Allied assault odds: 14 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 343 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Buin Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 7953 troops, 84 guns, 0 vehicles Defending force 4900 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Situation Map: Going in! The map shows the heavy CAP over Kavieng that shot up the Allied strike. The rested Tojo pilots - ca 50 ac - will now sweep Gasmata. Some 77 Betty naval bombers and 30 Zeros are ready in the various bases, but the main strike will be delivered by the navy. TF41 - The surface combat group under R.Adm Nishimura will stage against Gasmata from Kavieng. 4 heavy cruisers 1 light cruiser 9 destroyers TF38 - The bombardment group under V.Adm Yamamoto will attempt to bombard Gasmata. Battleships: Kongo, Hiei and Kirishima 2 heavy cruisers 1 light cruiser 4 destroyers The Carrier attacking force is divided into 2 powerful task forces and will move to a position just 3 hexes from Gasmata just north of Rabaul. TF28 under V.Adm Yamaguichi: 340 ac Carriers: Akagi, Shokaku, Zuikaku, Taiho and Unryu 1 heavy and 1 light cruiser 7 destroyers TF30 under V.Adm Nagumo: 331 ac Carriers: Junyo, Hiyo, Amagi, Katsuragi Light carriers: Ryujo, Soho, Zuiho 1 heavy and 1 light cruiser 4 destroyers The fighters are set to 60% CAP and range 4. All dive and torpedo bombers are set to 15/7k feet and range 4. This will enable the force to provide a heavy fighter escort for its bombers, reach out 1 hexe beyong Gasmata were several Allied task forces are likely to retreat, and provide CAP for the retreating surface battle groups. Enemy ac based at Gasmata should be fatigued. Flying long range missions in size 2 malaria infested base and heavy losses should ensure it. We have to face some 20 PT boats before going into battle against a surface combat group. Then there will only be transports to destroy and airfields to bombard! It is hoped that this attack will seriously hurt Allied shipping and delay the build up of Gasmata and future offensive operations. We've destroyed so many battleships and cruisers that it will be difficult for Ken to both protect his carriers, provide escorts for convoys and organize powerful surface combat groups. It's vital that we take advantage of this weakness. Killing of the enemy piecemeal using superior force is a central premise of the 1943 naval combat doctrine. Hopefully we will not loose too many ships and ac..the combined effort in clear weather should be efficient. [image]local://upfiles/1466/43C88D1EF6244966B397E45E6A673356.gif[/image]

PzB74 -> RE: Allies capture Shortland (11/11/2005 3:25:44 AM)
Just got another turn from Ken...really on my way to bed but I have to take a look! Just another turn.... [8\|]

Alikchi2 -> RE: Allies capture Shortland (11/11/2005 3:45:02 AM)
Ooh! Can't wait to see how it turns out..

PzB74 -> Naval victory at Gasmata! :-) (11/11/2005 5:22:33 AM)
It was an incredible exciting turn!! [&o] Dunno were to start...but I can reveal that the plan succeeded [:D] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/04/43 Surface Combat Two enemy PT boat TFs reacted against my bombardment groups advance to Gasmata. It was the surface combat group that engaged the enemy warships first though - as planned. The first battle of the night: Nishimura engages an enemy surface group led by the Pearl Harbour veteran Oklahoma. The old battleship fails to score any hits with its large artillery. In return the light cruiser Denver and 3 destroyers are blown out of the water! We still rules the waves at night - Yeah [8D] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Gasmata at 59,90 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses SOC-3 Seagull: 4 destroyed Japanese Ships CA Myoko, Shell hits 2 CA Nachi, Shell hits 9, on fire CA Ashigara, Shell hits 15, on fire CA Mikuma, Shell hits 13, on fire CL Kitakami, Shell hits 2 DD Makinami, Shell hits 4, on fire DD Naganami DD Kiyonami DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage DD Hatsukaze DD Yukikaze, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Shiranuhi DD Hamakaze, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Arashi, Shell hits 1 Allied Ships BB Oklahoma, Shell hits 9 CA San Francisco, Shell hits 2 CL Columbia, Shell hits 8, and is sunk magazine explodes CL Denver, Shell hits 4, on fire DD Hughes, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Anderson, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Warramunga, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Evertsen, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk DMS Trevor, Shell hits 3, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A second battle against an Allied destroyer division is a draw even though Nishimura is surprised. The heavy ships simply shrug of their assailants. Night Time Surface Combat, near Gasmata at 59,90 Japanese Ships CA Myoko, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CA Nachi, on fire CA Ashigara, Shell hits 3, on fire CA Mikuma, Shell hits 2, on fire CL Kitakami, Shell hits 5 DD Makinami, on fire DD Naganami DD Kiyonami DD Kuroshio, on fire, heavy damage DD Hatsukaze DD Yukikaze, and is sunk DD Shiranuhi DD Hamakaze, Shell hits 3, and is sunk magazine explodes DD Arashi Allied Ships DD Woodworth DD Gillespie DD Sims, Shell hits 1, on fire DD O'Brien, Shell hits 2 DD Selfridge DD John D. Edwards, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Crane, Shell hits 1, on fire DMS Long, Shell hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vice Admiral Yamamoto enters the scene! First a barge convoy is blasted. Night Time Surface Combat, near Gasmata at 59,90 Japanese Ships BB Kongo BB Hiei BB Kirishima CA Takao CA Chokai CL Yura DD Nowaki DD Minegumo DD Asagumo DD Shiratsuyu Allied Ships LCT LCT-470, Shell hits 5, and is sunk LCT LCT-471, Shell hits 9, and is sunk LCT LCT-472, Shell hits 9, and is sunk LCT LCT-473 LCT LCT-474 LCT LCT-475, Shell hits 6, and is sunk LCT LCT-476 LCT LCT-477 LCT LCT-478 LCT LCT-479 Allied ground losses: 14 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ...then a transport TF is hit! Night Time Surface Combat, near Gasmata at 59,90 Japanese Ships BB Kongo BB Hiei BB Kirishima CA Takao, Shell hits 1 CA Chokai CL Yura DD Nowaki DD Minegumo DD Asagumo DD Shiratsuyu Allied Ships SC SC-634 SC SC-639 SC SC-641 SC SC-739, Shell hits 3, and is sunk AP President Polk, Shell hits 28, and is sunk AP President Monroe AP Chaumont, Shell hits 1 Allied ground losses: 14 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A second transport group also receives a beating. Allied soldiers went down with some of the transports. Night Time Surface Combat, near Gasmata at 59,90 Japanese Ships BB Kongo BB Hiei BB Kirishima CA Takao CA Chokai CL Yura DD Nowaki DD Minegumo DD Asagumo DD Shiratsuyu Allied Ships AK Abigail Adams, Shell hits 8, and is sunk AK David Dudley Field AK Elizabeth Blackwell AK Sheldon Jackson, Shell hits 15, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk Allied ground losses: 493 casualties reported Vehicles lost 11 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Then Yamamoto turns his attention to the already shaken battlegroup! After only a few salvos the Oklahoma takes a direct hit by a 14" shell which penetrates her hull and sparks of her magazine. A mighty plume of smoke and fire shoots into the air and the ships dissappeares within minutes! [:D] Two more Allied destroyers including a DMS are also sunk while the light cruiser Denver receives a beating. Our own losses are minimal! What a glorious battle, the Emperor will be pleased. Night Time Surface Combat, near Gasmata at 59,90 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 2 destroyed Japanese Ships BB Kongo, Shell hits 2 BB Hiei BB Kirishima CA Takao CA Chokai, Shell hits 1 CL Yura DD Nowaki DD Minegumo DD Asagumo DD Shiratsuyu Allied Ships BB Oklahoma, Shell hits 8, and is sunk magazine explodes CA San Francisco, Shell hits 3 CL Denver, Shell hits 17, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Anderson, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DMS Trevor, Shell hits 6, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Then comes the battles which I had feared the most! 20 enemy PT boats hurled themselves against the attackers to fend of the bombardment run. To no avail... Night Time Surface Combat, near Gasmata at 59,90 Japanese Ships BB Kongo BB Hiei BB Kirishima CA Takao CA Chokai, Shell hits 2 CL Yura DD Nowaki, Shell hits 2 DD Minegumo DD Asagumo, Shell hits 1 DD Shiratsuyu Allied Ships PT PT-334 PT PT-335 PT PT-336 PT PT-337 PT PT-338 PT PT-339 PT PT-340 PT PT-341 PT PT-342 PT PT-343, Shell hits 13, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nishimura takes some casualties as a damaged destroyer is hit by 2 torpedoes. 4 enemy PT boats have to pay for their impudence. Night Time Surface Combat, near Gasmata at 59,90 Japanese Ships CA Myoko, on fire CA Nachi, on fire CA Ashigara, on fire CA Mikuma, on fire CL Kitakami DD Makinami, Shell hits 10, and is sunk DD Naganami DD Kiyonami, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 16, on fire, heavy damage DD Hatsukaze, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Shiranuhi, Shell hits 1 DD Arashi Allied Ships PT PT-62 PT PT-63 PT PT-64 PT PT-65 PT PT-103 PT PT-104, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage PT PT-105, Shell hits 1, and is sunk PT PT-106 PT PT-107, Shell hits 7, and is sunk PT PT-108, Shell hits 2, and is sunk PT PT-109 PT PT-110 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bombardments Finally Admiral Yamamoto is in position to fire his big guns against the crowded beach heads around Gasmata! 10 ac are torched and almost 5000 enemy casualties reported! [:D] This is just like the old day, mayhem and destruction to our enemies!! Naval bombardment of Gasmata, at 59,90 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses P-38G Lightning: 4 destroyed F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships CL Yura CA Chokai CA Takao BB Kirishima BB Hiei BB Kongo Allied ground losses: 4709 casualties reported Guns lost 5 Vehicles lost 40 Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 22 Port hits 4 Port supply hits 13 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat A perfect day for flying: not a cloud in the skies! First a milk run against Rabaul is intercepted by a 'leaky' carrier CAP Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 24 Allied aircraft F-5A Lightning x 4 B-17E Fortress x 9 B-24D Liberator x 18 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses F-5A Lightning: 1 destroyed B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged Japanese ground losses: 67 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 6 Port hits 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here comes the Tojos: unfortunately they have a hard time against P-38s, P-47s and Corsairs. Day Air attack on Gasmata , at 59,90 Japanese aircraft Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 51 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 3 P-38G Lightning x 8 P-47C Thunderbolt x 12 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 14 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged P-47C Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quite incredibly the Allies attack first! From the smoking runways at Gasmata the remaining attack squadrons scramble and head towards the mighty carrier armada! 6 Thunderbolts are shot down and the bombers doesn't score any hits... Day Air attack on TF at 60,87 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 49 A6M5 Zeke x 47 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 3 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 3 SBD Dauntless x 3 Avenger I x 3 P-38G Lightning x 9 P-47C Thunderbolt x 17 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 17 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Avenger I: 3 damaged P-38G Lightning: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged P-47C Thunderbolt: 6 destroyed, 4 damaged Japanese Ships CVL Ryujo CV Hiyo Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Avenger I launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another small scale raid is also fended of! Day Air attack on TF at 60,87 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 32 A6M5 Zeke x 40 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 9 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 2 Avenger I x 2 P-38G Lightning x 3 P-47C Thunderbolt x 6 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 8 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Avenger I: 2 destroyed P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ken has put his heavies on naval attack and they try to cripple my damaged cruisers. Fortunately the tough ships have managed to reach Rabaul and 22 Zeros provide CAP. Day Air attack on TF, near Rabaul at 61,88 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 22 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 5 B-24D Liberator x 45 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied aircraft losses B-24D Liberator: 2 destroyed, 12 damaged Japanese Ships CA Nachi, on fire CA Myoko, Bomb hits 5, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For 2 crippled destroyers there is no hope.. Day Air attack on TF at 61,90 Allied aircraft SBD Dauntless x 4 Kittyhawk I x 9 Beaufort V-IX x 9 No Allied losses Japanese Ships DD Kiyonami, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Kuroshio, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 61,90 Allied aircraft B-24D Liberator x 15 No Allied losses Japanese Ships DD Kuroshio, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have to look over my carrier air group disposition because only one major strike was launched today. Too bad since there were lots of enemy targets left. Anyway, our Zekes sacrifice sees the bombers through and a large Allied transport convoy is shattered! Day Air attack on TF, near Gasmata at 59,90 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 66 A6M5 Zeke x 24 D3A Val x 45 B5N Kate x 71 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 2 P-38G Lightning x 7 P-47C Thunderbolt x 11 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 21 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed D3A Val: 2 damaged B5N Kate: 12 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 1 damaged P-38G Lightning: 5 destroyed P-47C Thunderbolt: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged Allied Ships AK Menkar, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage AK Joan Moller, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage AK Alkaid, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 7, on fire, heavy damage AK Exmoor, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Cushing, Bomb hits 1, on fire AK Allioth, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AK Clevedon, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Idaho AK Hirondelle, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Proteus, Bomb hits 3, on fire AK Needwood -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As predicted several Allied ships retreated from Gasmata and were easy pickings! Day Air attack on TF at 59,91 Japanese aircraft D3A Val x 17 B5N Kate x 9 Japanese aircraft losses D3A Val: 1 damaged Allied Ships AP Chaumont, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AP President Monroe Allied ground losses: 141 casualties reported Vehicles lost 7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 59,91 Japanese aircraft D3A Val x 19 B5N Kate x 13 Japanese aircraft losses B5N Kate: 2 damaged Allied Ships AP Chaumont, on fire, heavy damage AP President Monroe, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire SC SC-639, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Allied ground losses: 28 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 59,91 Japanese aircraft B5N Kate x 12 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AP President Monroe, Torpedo hits 1, on fire SC SC-634, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Allied ground losses: 14 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I was worried about this large and unescorted strike, but the CAP fighters had mostly depleted their ammo. The only surviver from the Oklahoma's battlegroup, heavy cruiser San Francisco takes 5 torpedo hits and is left dead in the water. Day Air attack on TF, near Gasmata at 59,90 Japanese aircraft B5N Kate x 35 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 2 P-38G Lightning x 2 P-47C Thunderbolt x 8 Japanese aircraft losses B5N Kate: 7 destroyed, 21 damaged Allied Ships CA San Francisco, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Only half of my naval bombers sortie and unfortunately they don't perform all too well but another cruiser is hit by a torpedo! Day Air attack on TF, near Gasmata at 59,90 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 22 G4M1 Betty x 12 G4M2 Betty x 27 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 2 P-38G Lightning x 2 P-47C Thunderbolt x 8 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 14 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed P-47C Thunderbolt: 6 destroyed Allied Ships APD Crosby MSW Heed, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage CL Adelaide, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CA Canberra APD McKean -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I sent some minelayers to mine Finschafen and they didn't clear the area quickly enough and paid the price. The Allied bomber crews were unusually inefficient though. Day Air attack on TF at 56,87 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 15 SBD Dauntless x 15 Beaufighter Mk 21 x 63 P-38G Lightning x 65 Allied aircraft losses Beaufighter Mk 21: 1 damaged Japanese Ships ML Ikitsushima, Bomb hits 3, on fire ML Naryu MSW W.9 DD Hayabusa ML Nuwashima, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 56,87 Allied aircraft Beaufort V-IX x 44 No Allied losses Japanese Ships ML Ikitsushima, on fire DD Hayabusa, Bomb hits 1 ML Naryu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 56,87 Allied aircraft B-24D Liberator x 30 No Allied losses Japanese Ships ML Ikitsushima, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage DD Hayabusa -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat Ground combat at Shortlands Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 7501 troops, 44 guns, 193 vehicles Defending force 700 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles Allied assault odds: 218 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 298 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 17 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Buin Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 8021 troops, 85 guns, 0 vehicles Defending force 4814 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles Japanese ground losses: 14 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Situation Map: The sinking of the USS Oklahoma Our Kongo battleships proved to be extremely potent weapons in the hands of vice Admiral Yamamoto! Even though a bombardment mission dozens of enemy ships were destroyed in addition to a very successful bombardment attack. Enemy 8" shells bounced of the Kongo's side armour at 4000 yards. It was evident that the Oklahoma couldn't match our elite crews in a night fight. In all our gamble paid off! The enemy has been struck another blow and our own losses were relatively light. I'm so pleased that non of my irreplacable cruisers were sunk! 4 of them received a heavy beating, but should all reach Truk safely: Ashigara 24/16/5 Mikuma 25/12/12 Myoko 33/30/19 Nachi 45/23/18 A destroyer division has been assigned to escort them back to Truk from Rabaul. In all only 3 Japanese destroyers were lost today - and here is what the enemy had to pay: Battleships Oklahoma Heavy cruiser San Francisco Light cruisers Denver and Colombia 5 destroyers 1 destroyer minesweeper 1 minesweeper 2 sub chasers 4 LCUs 5 PT boats 3 troop transport 7 cargo ships sunk/sinking In addition a light cruiser was hit by a torpedo. The cost in the air was higher, but expected: 97 Japanese ac were shot down in air to air combat (including 50 A6M2 Zeros). 42 Allied ac were shot down including 16 P-47s, 12 P-38 and 1 Corsair. In all 108 Japanese and 67 Allied ac were destroyed today. It's time to head back to base and regroup. I got a job to do regarding the carrier air groups. One 27 ac A6M2 group was upgraded to the A6M5 today. My cruisers have taken a beating and need some time before they again are able to sortie in strength - but they will. That's the most important thing [8D] [image]local://upfiles/1466/0553285A256A470D9A0FF81FE469EC2C.gif[/image]

wobbly -> RE: Naval victory at Gasmata! :-) (11/11/2005 6:00:56 AM)
What DO you put in your weapons that causes so many magazine explosions - that is the 5th BB to suffer one in this game - not counting the other poor saps

ChezDaJez -> RE: Naval victory at Gasmata! :-) (11/11/2005 7:31:44 AM)
Nice! Gotta love it when a plan comes together. Big gamble, big payoff. Chez

PzB74 -> RE: Naval victory at Gasmata! :-) (11/11/2005 8:51:59 AM)
It's really a secret Al, but I guess you deserve to know... The shells are loaded with the Divine Wind, provided by the Emperor himself. Even a small fart is enough to sink a large battleship [;)] It may be in violation of the Geneva Convention, but we feel that it's worth the risk!-)

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: Naval victory at Gasmata! :-) (11/11/2005 9:10:14 AM)
GREAT JOB PZB!!!!!!!!!!!

Honda -> RE: Naval victory at Gasmata! :-) (11/11/2005 11:23:37 AM)
This sure brought a smile on my face on this gloomy morning. You go girl!

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: Naval victory at Gasmata! :-) (11/11/2005 3:22:33 PM)
Nomad doesn't seem very happy[:D]

Alikchi2 -> RE: Naval victory at Gasmata! :-) (11/11/2005 3:24:11 PM)
Nomad didn't throw a hissy fit when his Corsairs morphed into F-16s.. [8\|]

Speedysteve -> RE: Naval victory at Gasmata! :-) (11/11/2005 3:33:37 PM)
It was a good operation but as always there is an element of luck in it (this is NOT to belittle PZB's planning and tactics) but the number of magazine hits you have got in this game supercedes ALL of mine in the games i've played.

ADavidB -> RE: Naval victory at Gasmata! :-) (11/11/2005 4:11:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alikchi Nomad didn't throw a hissy fit when his Corsairs morphed into F-16s.. [8\|] The reality was that Corsairs were the F-16s of their day, and wiped the Japanese air force in the Southern Pacific accordingly. There are serious problems with the fundamental design of the Game. Most of us long-term players are still struggling to find work-arounds for those problems. Few of us bought this game expecting it to be "Fantasy Warfare in the Pacific". If it were advertised as such, fewer of us would have bought it. Mike Wood and the rest of the Matrix/2x3 folks don't want to spend the time and money on making WitP a simulation. They don't see any economic advantage in doing so. But it does have a negative effect on their businesses. For example, I still haven't bought another game from either Company since I became disillusioned with the design decisions in WitP. I bet that I'm not the only one. So enjoy your laugh, but ask yourself as you play the Japanese side - is it really fun to play a "historical" wargame in which the design has been made in a way to give your side unhistorical advantages? Isn't it a bit like "cheating at solitaire"? Cheers - Dave Baranyi

PzB74 -> RE: Naval victory at Gasmata! :-) (11/11/2005 4:15:23 PM)
Thanx guys [8D] It certainly felt good to go to bed tonight, only got 2-3 hours sleep but I still grinned when I got up! This game got some strange side effects. Nomad didn't say anything in his reply...from Hoepner and Alikchi's posts I assume he was more literate in his AAR!? That's the real problem, isn't it - if you have a really good day on the job it's almost 100% certain that some other poor sod has an equally bad one! Luck is an integral part of a victory, can't have one without it..and I'm the first to admit that I got my fair share of it and then some. Still, the magazine explotions were not crucial in this battle - both the cl and the bb would have been blown out of the water by superior fire power. Having ships with night fighting skills that averages 80 was perhaps the decisive factor. My biggest worry was the PT boats and they just didn't perform.

ADavidB -> RE: Naval victory at Gasmata! :-) (11/11/2005 4:28:20 PM)
John - Nomad left a post saying, "This AAR is Now Closed". He couldn't understand how your TFs could travel in, attack so many times, and then travel out of range of his bombers again. I'm not surprised that his ships didn't perform well. In particular, since the game started so early on he is burdened with a number of inherent problems such as the 20-knot BBs not being able to receive radar upgrades. You pulled off a very good victory, but there are still a number of items in the "mechanics" of it that suggest that we still don't really understand all the nuances of the game. Take care - Dave

PzB74 -> RE: Naval victory at Gasmata! :-) (11/11/2005 4:53:56 PM)
Closed? Hope he didn't get to discouraged by this little setback...better send him an note! Fantasy warfare in the Pacific - have I missed something? Personally I'm pretty tired of discussing and criticising game mechanics. Don't we all know how a stock V1.6 works by now? We all knew how this game handled surface combat before Operation Shogun and this aspect has worked fairly well until now, hasn't it? I staged my bombardment group 5 hexes away from Gasmata and at flank speed it was able to move in and out again. The surface combat group had a bigger speed and staged 6 hexes away. The 4 ca's that were shot up only managed to cover 3 hexes on the return leg, but this was sufficient. The operation was a big risk as all my damaged ships could have been sunk by enemy LBA. I know that enemy Corsairs and T-bolts would slaughter my crack KB pilots. 60 of them died against only 7 P-47s and 1 Corsair [:'(] Yes, I find this frustrating and not very realistic, but I've accepted it and is trying to adapt accordingly. Surface combat is one of the few areas in which Japan still excells in this game. I've played 3 scen 15 from the Allied side (1 still in progress) and never felt that the Japs were invincible. Feel that I've been able to hit back pretty good actually.

ADavidB -> RE: Naval victory at Gasmata! :-) (11/11/2005 5:10:03 PM)
quote: Fantasy warfare in the Pacific - have I missed something? Personally I'm pretty tired of discussing and criticising game mechanics. Don't we all know how a stock V1.6 works by now? We all knew how this game handled surface combat before Operation Shogun and this aspect has worked fairly well until now, hasn't it? "Fantasy Warfare..." was another of Nomad's quotes. Don't forget, you aren't playing a stock v1.6 game, but an old game that has had repeated upgrades. And not all the upgrades worked on the original OOB. So there are things with the Allied ships that will never get fixed in your game. Dave

bwheatley -> RE: Naval victory at Gasmata! :-) (11/11/2005 5:20:42 PM)
edit Congrats pzb. I know the game had some bugs when you started but they are working to fix them. Glad to see you guys are stll playing if you lose another allied opp i would be glad to play the game with you bugs and all until completion. I would play for hte fun not really the score :).

ADavidB -> RE: Naval victory at Gasmata! :-) (11/11/2005 5:27:58 PM)
Ah, you edited your first response...[;)] Anyway, as far as my suggestions for improvements that would allow a more realistic game and still give a Japanese player a solid chance to win, look at the current "B-29" thread in the main section. Cheers - Dave Baranyi

bwheatley -> RE: Naval victory at Gasmata! :-) (11/11/2005 5:32:14 PM)
Yea i didn't want it to sound so harsh. :) But even when getting my ass stomped in Fortress America i still enjoyed the fun of the fight until i knew i was beat and then i gave up. But as America sure you'll get your butt stomped and the score will be bad but come 1945 regardless of what you went through before you will feel the thrill of conquoring. But like i said i'd be willing to keep playing as an allied player and would congratulate you on every victory and afterwards would like to talk strategy about hows and whys. :) Thats the best part doing the AAR between the players and comparing notes its very exciting.

DFalcon -> RE: Naval victory at Gasmata! :-) (11/11/2005 5:35:04 PM)
The BBs and CAs were both attacked the previous day, so he knew they were there. You had hit him with these forces only a few days before and knew what you had in the area. Things could have gone better for the allies if he had damaged some more ships in the surface action. Although there was a lucky hit involved the results are not out of the ordinary given the forces involved. To oppose you with such a small force was a big gamble and it came up snake eyes. To moan about the game mechanics after this battle comes off sounding like sour grapes.

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