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Fishbed -> RE: Enemy Deep Strike Carrier Missions! (7/7/2006 11:00:11 PM)
Kill the Tinian intruders Samourai! You've got no means to defeat the Uber Cap, but you still have the capability to kill them on your own ground. You're right to do it before he comes with the battlewagon - a flattop without planes is useless [8D] We can't let them pounder Tinian anymore, they have to pay! If you can't hit the soldier, break the sword [:D]

Nemo121 -> RE: Enemy Deep Strike Carrier Missions! (7/7/2006 11:15:51 PM)
I know this will be unpopular but I think that you are committing these units to a fight they can't win. If your goal is attrition and slowing the enemy then do it when the experience of your pilots is improved by 2 or 3 more months of training. Throwing pilots in now won't blunt Andy's decisive thrusts now. It may not blunt them later either but at the very least the chance will be there. I think you are fighting too early both in strategic and operational terms. Here's what I mean. If you discount the strategic advice then at the very least consider the operational advice... At some point in time during the invasion cycle when Andy has committed ground troops but before he is strong enough to take the target he will have to cycle his BBs back for replenishment. If you wait until that time to fly your fighters into nearby bases you will allow them to fight with one of the largest threats to their existence removed from the equation. Andy is so used to gaining air superiority whenever he wants that you can be almost assured that he will try to smash any of your bases which show a dark red airbase. So long as he does that smashing using his airplanes and not his battleline you have a chance to blunt his offensive power and give yourself the opportunity to base some bombers and fleet units into the area for smash and grab raids on his transport TFs. Right now though you are meeting his schwerpunkt head on. This arrow will shatter your shield. I would suggest meeting the schwerpunkt a bit later on after it has lost some of its momentum and meeting it at a tangent so that its full force is not directed at your, inferior, forces. Obviously though you are the commander on the scene and know the situation more fully but I would point out that you are setting up a situation which is similar to the situation in which KB came to such harm. You met the thrust head-on and suffered for it. Meet it after it is fully extended, throw it off with your defensive actions and then, in the few days it will take Andy to bring up new fighters base in all your bombers and strike hard. This maximises on enemy weaknesses instead of trying to beat his strengths ( something I think the Japanese cannot do at this stage of the war).

PzB74 -> Mother of all Battles about to begin!! (7/7/2006 11:18:18 PM)
Hear, hear: Big news! The capitalist Yanks and their servants have started an offensive against Imperial ground in the Marianas. Several large carrier strikes hit Tininan followed by 100 B-29's from the Marshalls. So TINIAN is the target! [:-] In the first air battles 41 Hellcats and 2 Corsairs were shot down for the price of 81 Zekes, 37 Oscars and 26 Georges! 144/43 = 1-3.35 kill ratio. Not bad! Especially the George fighter showed itself to be a Hellcat killer and achieved almost a 1-1 kill ratio. I managed to extract 1 George and 10 pilots after the battle and the unit will be rebuilt ASAP! Somehow US battleships WITHOUT CAP halted 1 hex east of Saipan/Tinian and were attacked by 2 small waves of Betty bombers. OOOHHH they pain, again we could have inflicted heavy casualties on the enemy. This will not happen again...neither from my - nor Andy's side I'm afraid [:'(] Tinian is closed but Phase 1 of Turnip Surprise has been launched [:D] Numerous bomber formations all over the Central Pacific have been put on naval strike - max range. Hundreds of CAP fighters have been moved to Guam, Saipan and Pagan. Some even went to Tinian. The enemy is not allowed to rest and we will gradually wear him down. I'm quite confident because of the massive arsenal of available fighters and bombers. For each unit that was moved to the Marianas a replacement arrived from Japan, China or the Philippines [8D] Will post some screenies! AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/29/44 Air Combat Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 81 N1K1-J George x 23 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 46 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 184 F4U-1D Corsair x 29 SB2C Helldiver x 122 TBM Avenger x 136 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 91 destroyed N1K1-J George: 24 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 43 destroyed H8K Emily: 2 destroyed C6N Myrt: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 38 destroyed, 19 damaged F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged SB2C Helldiver: 4 damaged TBM Avenger: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 248 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Airbase hits 13 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 71 Port hits 2 Port fuel hits 2 Port supply hits 5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 40 TBM Avenger x 49 Japanese aircraft losses N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed H8K Emily: 1 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 6 damaged Japanese ground losses: 13 casualties reported Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 26 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 48 TBM Avenger x 48 Japanese aircraft losses N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged Runway hits 17 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here comes the Super's - AFTER the carrier strike fortunately! Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29 Superfortress x 107 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed H8K Emily: 1 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-29 Superfortress: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 59 casualties reported Airbase hits 12 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 174 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 63,65 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 3 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied Ships [X(] BB Massachusetts Aircraft Attacking: 2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 63,65 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 7 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged Allied Ships [X(] DMS Long BB New Jersey Aircraft Attacking: 4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Eniwetok at 76,74 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3 P-40N Warhawk x 4 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed Allied Ships AK Admiral Senn Aircraft Attacking: 2 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 7000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 13 SB2C Helldiver x 17 Allied aircraft losses SB2C Helldiver: 7 damaged Runway hits 3 Aircraft Attacking: 17 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Eniwetok at 76,74 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 4 Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3 P-40N Warhawk x 4 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Beaufighter Mk 21: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Eniwetok at 76,74 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 4 Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3 P-40N Warhawk x 4 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 2 damaged P-40N Warhawk: 2 damaged Allied Ships AK Donald McKay Aircraft Attacking: 1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The George in Combat! During the first phase of the battle the George was invincible and downed a dozen enemy fighters without taking any losses. Gradually superior enemy numbers turned the tables. Still, the George is a Hellcat killer. Next time we'll committ a much more potent force. [image]local://upfiles/1466/0BE8CF3EC2AF4AB286DE5E117AAA8449.jpg[/image]

PzB74 -> RE: Mother of all Battles about to begin!! (7/7/2006 11:36:32 PM)
Thanks for the excellent advice Nemo! Rest assured, I'm not going to whither away my strategic reserves unless Andy can be beaten. I will gradually increase committment and study the strategic situation day by day. I can already see major weaknesses in Andy's plan. Tinian is flanked by Saipan and Guam. I think enemy ships my get 'lost' and die en masse in the huge minefields. Andy is a brilliant player, don't think I give him enough credit in this AAR. Still, he has little experience with operations of this scale and he will make mistakes - like we all would. So I think we should try to take advantage of these mistakes and make him pay dearly for them. We're finally fighting on our own ground. The enemy has to come to us and stay in place for weeks on end. It's perfect [:D] In the first air battle no less than 43 enemy fighters were shot down. Morale will suffer and fatigue increase if his strikes are opposed continously. So let's see how things evolve instead of following a set plan [:)] And yes..I am fighting a 'spirited' battle - according to Imperial Japanese traditions. This is the way I've played this game from Turn 1. Vinn og forsvinn med samme sinn. Norwegian saying [;)] Turnip Surprise - Phase 1 I've outlined the current situation and a possible scenario! The Kido Butai now consists of 4 fleet and 4 light carriers. Lots of potential..so I need input now. You don't want to read about defeats for the next 18 months, do you? [;)] [image]local://upfiles/1466/563E9760ECC54565907F9B2093F55FBB.jpg[/image]

Fishbed -> RE: Mother of all Battles about to begin!! (7/8/2006 12:06:01 AM)
If you want my advice, don't get hurried Lets kill his planes first... But getting from Ulithi to his air umbrella is a little risky right now, even for killing BBs...

PzB74 -> RE: Mother of all Battles about to begin!! (7/8/2006 1:44:06 AM)
You're right - again - Fish! It is possible that this is a raid only - meant to draw out our reserves and test the defenses. I don't think so, but it's time to slow down and see how things develop. Here is the mail I sent Andy. Start of 'propaganda war?' [;)] At first I believed you would try - but on second thoughts...I think it's a ploy. You're the kind of cheap Scot that would even lie to achieve your goals ;-) Way too few transports nearby to be an invasion as well. So I'm using the opportunity to test out how well my Zekes and new models fight over their own turf. Too bad I didn't have more bombers on naval attack last turn though :-\ Very encouraged by the effectiveness of the George! 11 out of 27 pilots survived and they claimed 22 kills in one sortie. When I bring in their brethrens I think you will feel it :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Todays turn: I found that LRCAP works quite well in the Marianas. Some 260 Oscars and Zekes from Guam and Saipan LRCAP'ed Tinian. Of course ALL were shot down, even though up to 1/3 of the pilots survived. Another 68 enemy fighters were shot down. 273/68 = 1/4 kill ratio. If you extract the 67 decoy Oscars we got a 1/3 kill ratio - and this is with a mix of green and experienced (not crack) Zeke pilots. Very useful information. Last day of May next turn - soon we'll have 400 crack Franks in the line! AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/30/44 Even the enemy bombardment group managed to 'hunt' my sub among the mines. It survived though. DMS ain't the best asw ships. So no more sneak attacks with subs. Only scout, mining and attack on cripples. Sub/ASW Attacks ASW attack near Tinian at 62,65 Japanese Ships SS I-178, hits 8, on fire Allied Ships DMS Elliot DMS Chandler DMS Howard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This 'convoy' attack on my 'attack' sub gained some valuable info though. It may look like Andy is serious based on the troop and landing ships here. Your thoughts? ASW attack at 72,69 Japanese Ships SS I-29, hits 21, on fire, heavy damage sinks Allied Ships AK Quinault Victory LCT LCT-139 LST LST-340 LST LST-339 LST LST-217 LST LST-214 LST LST-69 LST LST-40 LSD Gunston Hall AK Tuscana AK Situla AK Syrma AP McCawley MSW Kapunda MSW Gympie MSW Gladstone MSW Geelong MSW Cootamundra MSW Ararat MSW Pirie MSW Tamworth DE William C. Miller DE Martin DE Lyman DE Lovering DE LeHardy DE Lake DE Burden R. Hastings DE Griswold -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bomardments The French have lent the Yanks a battle wagon. Will make sure they doesn't get it back! [;)] Naval bombardment of Tinian, at 62,65 Allied Ships BB Richelieu BB New Jersey BB Iowa BB Alabama BB Massachusetts BB South Dakota Japanese ground losses: - bad result [:D] 568 casualties reported Guns lost 19 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat Todays big air combat. Very laughable that not a single Jap CAP fighter survived OR got through to the bombers. This A2A model NEEDS tweaking Joe. Much too bloody for a standard game. The fun would last longer with Nik's mod. Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 9 A6M5 Zeke x 211 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 86 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 141 F4U-1D Corsair x 67 TBM Avenger x 168 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 9 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 203 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 69 destroyed C6N Myrt: 2 destroyed H8K Emily: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 57 destroyed, 27 damaged F4U-1D Corsair: 9 destroyed, 7 damaged TBM Avenger: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 89 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 18 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 99 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 55th/C Division, at 62,65 - ground strike! Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 8 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 87 F6F Hellcat x 24 SB2C Helldiver x 156 TBM Avenger x 56 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed Allied aircraft losses SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged TBM Avenger: 3 damaged Japanese ground losses: 349 casualties reported Guns lost 11 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Sarmi at 48,78 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft - not a lot of protection over Sarmi. Perhaps we can try a raid? F4F-4 Wildcat x 6 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied Ships BB Idaho -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Sarmi at 48,78 Japanese aircraft P1Y Frances x 3 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 5 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y Frances: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied Ships BB Idaho Aircraft Attacking: 2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Losses Nasty numbers, but I think they're quite acceptable. Especially since these results are achieved mostly by second rate Zekes and....Oscars. [image]local://upfiles/1466/B79E579E62614EE6999D2096CFA79F45.jpg[/image]

PzB74 -> RE: Mother of all Battles about to begin!! (7/8/2006 2:33:20 AM)
More of the same - cat and mouse game. No air 2 air combat today. I'm building a powerful fighter presence on Pagan, Saipan and Guam. Some 800 fighters by now. One day they'll all LRCAP Tinian. In 4 days the enemy invasion fleet will arrive. I think we should sortie the Combined Fleet tomorrow. Even if spotted Andy will get very nervous. Escort carrier moves to the Bonins. First Franks arrive tomorrow. Starting production: 320 ac before the 170 Tojos produced are converted. That's some 10-11 ac pr day. First upgrade in 3 days. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/31/44 Bombardments To get better results Andy divided his super bombardment group in 3! Naval bombardment of Tinian, at 62,65 [:)] Allied Ships BB Richelieu BB South Dakota -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Tinian, at 62,65 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 57 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships BB Massachusetts, Shell hits 26, on fire [:D] BB Alabama Japanese ground losses: 4 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Tinian, at 62,65 [8D] Allied Ships BB New Jersey BB Iowa -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat Sweep by Corsairs...Andy's Hellcats have been hurt! Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 19 F4U-1D Corsair x 57 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 4 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good thing we stood down today! Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 19 F6F Hellcat x 64 B-29 Superfortress x 114 - hopefully these guys are getting tired. Allied aircraft losses B-29 Superfortress: 4 damaged Japanese ground losses: 88 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Port hits 3 Port fuel hits 4 Port supply hits 8 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heavy strike on ground troops. Must burn a lot of missions. Patience now, patience... Day Air attack on 55th/C Division, at 62,65 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 108 F6F Hellcat x 24 SB2C Helldiver x 149 TBM Avenger x 248 Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 1 destroyed SB2C Helldiver: 6 damaged TBM Avenger: 3 damaged Japanese ground losses: 466 casualties reported Guns lost 8 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When all attention is on the Marianas we strike another supply convoy north of Rabaul from Truk [:D] Day Air attack on TF at 58,83 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 14 P1Y Frances x 13 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged P1Y Frances: 1 destroyed Allied Ships TK A.C. Rubel AK Zachary Taylor, Torpedo hits 1 AK William Dunbar, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Admiral Williams, Torpedo hits 1 AK Zebra, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Sarmi at 48,78 Japanese aircraft P1Y Frances x 22 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 6 P-38J Lightning x 5 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y Frances: 4 destroyed, 14 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 5 damaged P-38J Lightning: 2 damaged Allied Ships - Arrgh, Idaho got 9 lives [:@] BB Idaho, Torpedo hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------

PzB74 -> CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/8/2006 5:44:33 AM)
Somehow Andy get's it ALL wrong! [:D] His fighters are put on GROUND STRIKE - and there is NO escort! The leaky CAP from Guam and Saipan makes mince meat of them [:D] I watched the WHOLE show and SMILED for 15 minutes while the hated enemy ac were SHOT DOWN IN DROWES without losses to themselves [:D] This is the FIRST example of how the Uber CAP works in Japan's favor! [:D] Enjoy fellow fan boys - this is a rare occasion - sake for everyone! Can't see much of the enemy invasion fleet, Andy's carriers have now lost some 300-350 ac. This has to hurt - and we haven't even deployed our best units. I'm simply feeding in more Oscars, Zekes and Tonys. They do the job and Tinian is repairing 50 damage point for each turn Andy doesn't bomb it... One thing: Andy said he wouldn't operate B-29s from anything less than a size 5 af. The only size 5 enemy air base in the vicinity of Tinian is Kwajalein, 23 hexes away [&:] What is the range of these monsters? I didn't sortie the fleet - want to wait a bit longer and see what happens. The Kaga is down to 19 sys damage while the Taiho got 23. Both in Shanghai now. Both carriers can therefore keep pace with the slow Junyo at 24 knots. This brings KB strength up to 6 cv and 3 cvl. The first batch of 11 Franks arrived pr schedule. 2 more days and I'll upgrade a unit on Ulithi. This is perfect, these crack units can make our large formations of mediocre fighters very potent - in a defensive role. So I think there is hope, so let's but despair on hold and see whether Andy makes any more mistakes. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/01/44 Sub/ASW Attacks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The US carrier TF 'stumbles' accross one of my luckless minelaying subs. They're just out of luck! ASW attack at 61,66 Japanese Ships SS I-31, hits 8, on fire, heavy damage sinks Allied Ships DD DeHaven DD Dashiell -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat This is the the effect of the killer Corsair... Day Air attack on Guam , at 62,66 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 43 A6M5c Zeke x 37 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 50 Allied aircraft F4U-1D Corsair x 60 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 31 destroyed A6M5c Zeke: 16 destroyed, 1 damaged Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 38 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4U-1D Corsair: 11 destroyed, 7 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 55th/C Division, at 62,65 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 28 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 37 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 10 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 80 F6F Hellcat x 26 SB2C Helldiver x 83 TBM Avenger x 170 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 4 damaged Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 6 damaged Allied aircraft losses [:D] [&o] FM-2 Wildcat: 36 destroyed, 8 damaged F6F Hellcat: 14 destroyed SB2C Helldiver: 40 destroyed, 3 damaged TBM Avenger: 80 destroyed, 10 damaged Japanese ground losses: 56 casualties reported Guns lost 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andy got a few bombers on naval strike... Day Air attack on TF, near Guam at 62,66 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 12 A6M5c Zeke x 21 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 14 SB2C Helldiver x 20 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed A6M5c Zeke: 4 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged Japanese Ships AP Daitei Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today dodoo...too many bombers took off against the US carriers that got within 6 hexes of Ulithi. Most of my fighters had a max range of 0. Day Air attack on TF at 60,65 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 3 G4M2 Betty x 51 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 116 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 39 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 7 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 60,65 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 3 B7A Grace x 7 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 115 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed B7A Grace: 7 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 20 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 12 SB2C Helldiver x 19 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 60,65 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 4 G4M2 Betty x 5 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 128 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 5 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/1466/50E65ADB8FE043E1B82EC03A5E43CBA4.jpg[/image]

PzB74 -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/8/2006 5:47:03 AM)
Here are the actual numbers: We also lost quite a few bombers because of the un-intential raids. Still the best result in all of 44 and probably 43! Losses [image]local://upfiles/1466/D9D188D45F2A46A4A042847E43F691BE.jpg[/image]

LittleJoe -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/8/2006 5:52:21 AM)
Banzaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

skrewball -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/8/2006 7:06:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PzB Day Air attack on 55th/C Division, at 62,65 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 28 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 37 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 10 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 80 F6F Hellcat x 26 SB2C Helldiver x 83 TBM Avenger x 170 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 4 damaged Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 6 damaged Allied aircraft losses [:D] [&o] FM-2 Wildcat: 36 destroyed, 8 damaged F6F Hellcat: 14 destroyed SB2C Helldiver: 40 destroyed, 3 damaged TBM Avenger: 80 destroyed, 10 damaged Japanese ground losses: 56 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Seeing that was actually better than sex! LOL! Don't get too ahead of yourself...doesn't the Allied player have the ability to almost instantaniously replenish those losses? I"ve never gotten farther than 06/42 in the 2 years I've been playing this game!

Nemo121 -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/8/2006 8:25:56 AM)
Well if you look at Andy's strikes you'll see he has a propensity for upgrading everything the instant a better airframe is available instead of upgrading gradually so that he always has a large reserve of all airframe types. Since, I think, the latest Corsair variant is only a recent arrival its reserves might be low and even for those airframes which aren't low "ready reserves" (those which can be dropped into squadrons and ready to fight in 1 or 2 days) won't be all that large since he can't add pilots and planes to units on carriers. he will have to stage them through his CVEs and island bases and all of that takes time, time during which the Japanese player can exploit the weaker CAP and weaker ground and naval strikes. PzB, While I still hold my concern it definitely seems as though you've got things WELL in hand [:D]. I think this is unfolding into quite a fascinating encounter. It would be something indeed if you could hold onto Tinian.

pauk -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/8/2006 10:07:22 AM)
Banzai! outstanding victory... Did this battle produced any ace (if you have a time to check it?) Please, be patient and catious - I agree that Andy is more than good player and he doesn't have exp in such invasions but... be aware - he have quite a lot BBs and he can divide (as he did it) and sent to bombard each Marianna island! .. actually i'm suprised that he didn't do it (i would do that)...perhaps he waiting for more Jap ac on islands?

Przemcio231 -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/8/2006 11:07:58 AM)
NIPPON BANZAI[:D][:D][:D] maybe its time to send in the Bombers and the KB to strike US Navy and send it to the bottom[:D]

Nemo121 -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/8/2006 11:30:00 AM)
LOL! Agent provocateur.

PzB74 -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/8/2006 12:41:52 PM)
Rest assure guys, this was only a small set back for Andy. I think he's just drawing out our CAP fighters. No invasion fleet in sight. So we're standing down a bit. Guam was hit hard today: mainly because only 135 of 300 fighters were on CAP despite being put on 90%. So we lost 160 ac on the ground and 130 in A2A combat. The enemy lost another 45 Hellcats and 30 Wildcats, some 120 ac in all. So not a bad result, but I have to figure out how to increase the number of fighters in the air when the attacks come in. Both Guam and Tinian are partly closed, but Andy will have to continue hitting them both constantly. So let's see if he will and whether an invasion is imminent or not. I will consider moving all remaining ac out of the Marianas if it's not. The enemy fleets are quite vulnerable to attacks by surface groups. They stay in one place and launch strikes and no ac are put on naval attack. Will put some ships in Saipan under a massive air umbrella and try to taunt them to launch. Today another 100 B-29's hit Guam and Tinian. I asked Andy whether all these operated from Kwajalein, a size 5 AF 23 hexes away? Thought they had a reduced range from such a small field? Franks are coming off the production lines in a steady stream. So the more time Andy uses, the stronger we will become. Despite of our losses - which can be replaced relatively quickly. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/02/44 Air Combat Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 20 TBM Avenger x 16 Japanese aircraft losses No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 4 damaged Japanese ground losses: 60 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 8 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29 Superfortress x 52 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed H8K Emily: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-29 Superfortress: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 147 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 5 Runway hits 68 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Guam , at 62,66 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 64 N1K1-J George x 6 A6M5c Zeke x 11 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 65 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 109 F6F Hellcat x 138 SB2C Helldiver x 53 TBM Avenger x 145 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 83 destroyed N1K1-J George: 7 destroyed A6M5c Zeke: 18 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 50 destroyed Ki-46-III Dinah: 3 destroyed B6N Jill: 8 destroyed H8K Emily: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 30 destroyed, 11 damaged F6F Hellcat: 46 destroyed, 21 damaged SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged Japanese ground losses: 159 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Airbase hits 30 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 71 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Guam , at 62,66 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 88 F4U-1D Corsair x 49 SB2C Helldiver x 64 TBM Avenger x 18 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed A6M5c Zeke: 1 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 4 destroyed N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged TBM Avenger: 3 damaged Japanese ground losses: 60 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 7 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 23 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Guam , at 62,66 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29 Superfortress x 43 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5c Zeke: 2 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-29 Superfortress: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged Japanese ground losses: 11 casualties reported Airbase hits 8 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 56 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The small strikes were failures. Lured to the 'big targets' like gnats to fire. What about all the valuable secondary targets without CAP? Safe as usual... Day Air attack on TF at 63,67 Japanese aircraft B6N Jill x 8 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 94 F6F Hellcat x 25 Japanese aircraft losses B6N Jill: 6 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 63,67 Japanese aircraft P1Y Frances x 8 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 94 F6F Hellcat x 25 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y Frances: 8 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 63,67 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 94 F6F Hellcat x 25 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 3 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Kwajalein at 79,79 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 9 Allied aircraft F4U-1D Corsair x 14 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 8 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4U-1D Corsair: 6 damaged Allied Ships AK Susana Aircraft Attacking: 1 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 7000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/1466/5D987E17921B46E8AF6476E305728877.jpg[/image]

AmiralLaurent -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/8/2006 12:42:30 PM)
For once it is a good news. It is as ridiculous as the US uber-CAP, but it works for IJN so rarely that is fine. I don't know how many replenishment carrier Andy has now, but I doubt it will reduce significantly his air power for more than some days... Probably all losses were suffered by the CVE, that maybe will retire to reform airgroups (if AR don't work for them). In this case that may delay the actual landing, or the main CV TF will have to do the job of the CVE (CAP over the invasion, and ground support mission) and will be more vulnerable. In your place I will concentrate AC for a major raid on Sarmi... 50 Zekes and 100 bombers will sink 1 or 2 BBs here at less cost than damaging a DD off Mariannas...

Arstavidios -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/8/2006 1:53:20 PM)
Not much real harm to the allied player. He can afford to lose some planes in 1944. His CVEs with VR squadrons should make the losses good but he'll have to get back to base to draw more aircraft. You may slow his air operations a little as he may have to pause to let his fighter pools replenish if you kill enough of them. I you concentrate your fighters on CAP you may inflict heavy losses on him, but attacks on his carrier TFs would just cost you more aircraft and pilots to his UberCAP and UberFLAK and won't hurt him.

Jim D Burns -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/8/2006 2:24:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PzB Thought they had a reduced range from such a small field? Not a reduced range, but a reduced bomb load. Basically they are bombing at half strength due to the non-optimal airbase. Jim

PzB74 -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/8/2006 11:47:48 PM)
The Combined Fleet has sortied! Two escort carrier divisions are ready at Ulithi and Bonin Jima. There will be opening both for the Nihon Kaigun and Kido Butai if Andy invades, and I want to be ready. The KB carriers close to 400 ac and I've decided not to bring the Kaga (18 sys) and Taiho (22 sys). They will refit in Japan with the Katsuragi. Shokaku and Zuikaku docks in Shanghai tomorrow and I will move 2 AR's there. I'm convinced that it's possible to deliver a mortal blow to the enemy if he's foolish enough to set foot on Imperial Ground - but it will require and all arms combined effort [8D] Laurent, Sarmi is now a size 3 port and the Idaho has been disbandoned here. I've ordered 50 naval bombers to hit the port! [:)] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/03/44 Air Combat Today we only CAP'en Saipan and added LRCAP from Pagan. Unfortunately 'leaky CAP' cost us 100 ac today as a Corsair sweep over Tinian mowed down all opposition. The Corsair cost me the most sorrow in this game. 3 times more efficient than the Hellcat. It achieves 6-1 kill ratios against crack units and 10-1 against medium quality units. Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 13 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 38 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 19 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 40 F4U-1D Corsair x 39 TBM Avenger x 1 Japanese aircraft losses - think Corsairs won this round 100-2 [8\|] A6M5 Zeke: 10 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 38 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 50 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 11 destroyed, 2 damaged F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Guam , at 62,66 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 12 F6F Hellcat x 9 SB2C Helldiver x 23 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed B6N Jill: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses SB2C Helldiver: 2 destroyed, 14 damaged Japanese ground losses: 37 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 69,68 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 48 F6F Hellcat x 13 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 3 damaged F6F Hellcat: 2 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianas I've moved CAP fighters back to Palaus, Bonins and Pagan. We have already achieved good results. As far as I know carrier air groups now have to be moved ashore to be reinforced? That's what I have to do with mine. Enemy carrier ac losses have been big with a lot of ac taking damage. So now we sit down and wait. Will Andy's carrier head back to the Marshalls, or will an invasion fleet invade - and is it really Tinian? I've ordered a crack engineer regiment flown in from Yap. I've moderated air transport and will not fly in heavy artillery units. Small SNLF and engineer units travel 'light'. [image]local://upfiles/1466/09402662C74D492F9AFC10B64FB69AB5.jpg[/image]

BLurking -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/9/2006 3:14:07 AM)
PzB, Today was definitely a good day for the Empire! I just dealt my opponent a serious setback also. Check out this attempted invasion of North Luzon. Just goes to show that late war Japanese players have to lie in wait for Allied mistakes... AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/29/44 Ground combat at Aparri Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 108354 troops, 1090 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 2890 Defending force 36453 troops, 112 guns, 320 vehicles, Assault Value = 401 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1 Japanese max assault: 1710 - adjusted assault: 1137 Allied max defense: 351 - adjusted defense: 146 Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Aparri base !!! Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses Catalina I: 8 destroyed B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed P-47D Thunderbolt: 5 destroyed Japanese ground losses: 1077 casualties reported Guns lost 31 Vehicles lost 3 Allied ground losses: 49316 casualties reported Guns lost 121 Vehicles lost 163

PzB74 -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/9/2006 1:55:51 PM)
That's amazing BLurking! [:D] Seems like he underestimated your strength in the PI! Was this the entire force he landed? 11 more days and I will receive the firsT PI reinforcements. Then I will feel much more secure. Andy's carriers are still hangin' around doing very little - but burning fuel, increasing sys damage and expending aviation fuel [;)] With all attention on the Marianas we strike Sarmi and upgrade our Tojos. A full Engineer Regiment has now been airlifted to Tinian from Yap. I'm allowed to use 50 transports pr AF size according to the new house rule. This is no problem with the huge fields in the Marianas and no enemy LR CAP. Andy didn't even notice them and the assault point value has increased to some 1450. Planning to move several smaller units in over the next week. The longer the enemy invasion is delayed, the more prepared we will be. Andy told me that Tinian was chosen as his target because it's flat terrain opposed to hills and mountains at Saipan and Guam...didn't know this. So for the rest of you: Tinian needs a bigger garrison than the other islands because these get a defense modifier of 2?. Supply levels in all bases are still between 62 and 70k. I really feel ready for this [8D] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/04/44 Sub/ASW Attacks Crawling with subs...but I run convoys along the coasts close to my ASW assets. Sub attack at 47,48 Japanese Ships AK Nichinan, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AK Hidaka Maru MSW Wa 104 MSW Wa 102 Allied Ships SS Pomfret -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat Here's on for you Admiral - the port attack on Sarmi! Andy is so focused on the Marianas that he only had 3 Wildcats on CAP with capital ships disbandoned into the port. I've been after the Idaho for a loong time now. Strike from Biak: Day Air attack on Sarmi , at 48,78 Japanese aircraft P1Y Frances x 21 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 26 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 3 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y Frances: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Strike from Palau: Day Air attack on Sarmi , at 48,78 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 27 P1Y Frances x 36 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged P1Y Frances: 10 damaged Allied Ships 800 kg bomb bounced...torpedo didn't! BB Idaho, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage [:D] DD Cassin, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Allied ground losses: 34 casualties reported Port supply hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My CAP has been moved away from Tinian/Guam: Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 42 F4U-1D Corsair x 22 TBM Avenger x 1 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Guam , at 62,66 Allied aircraft F4U-1D Corsair x 13 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First Operation Frank Sentai I upgraded a very experienced unit in China first. 380 ac being produced pr month now, and still 113 Tojos will be converted. Have you noticed that a brilliant air leader is only measured in regard to inspiration! Like Col Renzo. He got an air skill of 36... [image]local://upfiles/1466/33FEED91002F4601AD43D06906546782.jpg[/image]

Naskra -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/9/2006 2:26:29 PM)
Good of him to reveal the target. He must be confident. I look forward to a great blood-letting.

Nemo121 -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/9/2006 2:43:50 PM)
Yes, things look like they will very much come to a bloody head... BTW I believe the modifier for mountainous terrain is x 3. So for every 1,000 AV you have in the other islands you defend with, effectively, 3000 AV.

PzB74 -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/9/2006 2:50:20 PM)
It could be scam...so we can't draw any conclusions. But the way he's been hammering ground units at Tinian it would be strange if he suddenly changed targets. I will try to reinforce Tinian with units from the Palaus though. How many men would be needed to capture Tinian with 9 forts, 3800 mines, coastal defenses, huge 240mm and 150mm guns, tanks, engineers and a total of 1450 AV? With 300 engineers at Tinian the place won't stay closed for long and I think it will be impossible to close more than 2 bases at once. Every week from now on a crack Frank Sentai will become ready for action. I like this, it's perfect! [;)] We got the Yanks were we want them, and they have to stay for a long, long time if they intend to do business! [:-]

Nemo121 -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/9/2006 2:57:36 PM)
Well Tinian isn't an atoll so he can land without Shock Attacking. 1450 x 3 (for your forts) = 4350 AV x 2 for your preparation ( I'm assuming you have an Army HQ and units there fully prepped for Tinian) = 8,700. Assuming sufficient supplies than your opponent is going to need 4,350 AV ( he should have everything prepped 100% so that should cancel out) just to get a 1 : 1 although even with 0 : 1 he should be able to bring your fort levels down over time ( as you can expect him to bring a lot of engineers). 4,350 AV is the equivalent of about 10 divisions. Don't forget that for every AV you bring in by ship, sub or air Andy is going to have to bring in 3 to equal it. So bring in all you can. The more you can force him to focus on Tinian the better off you are.... assuming he does invade it of course. Truth be told though this would be an awful waste of resources and time for a diversion and Andy doesn't seem the sort to divert resources in that way.

invernomuto -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/9/2006 2:58:04 PM)
GO PzB, GO!!! [&o][&o][&o][&o]

Fishbed -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/9/2006 3:06:06 PM)
He will not land in the Philippines by the way, if you really have PI reinforcements soon, send people from place you don't care that much to Marianas for the big show. I mean, the war will not be won or lost in the PI - but in the Marianas [;)]

PzB74 -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/9/2006 4:50:07 PM)
Thanx Nemo! I got no doubt that Andy can land even 15 divs...but out of these only 10 will be whole [:D] Any reinforcements will also be chewed up by mines and guns. Most, but not all of my units in Tinian are prepped to 100%. Still, I'm going to listen to your advice. The 12th Division is only at 65% strength in Yap. Has been lifted out of Hollandia. It misses all it's heavy artillery and is therefore a prime candidate for being moved by air. Some 240 transports will take on the job. I've also created a barge convoy escorted by a PC in Saipan, and it has loaded 1700 points of a crack Bde there. You are right Admiral, the war will be decided in the Marianas, so why take any chances. The units that will arrive in the PI in 10 more days have to be moved to the Palaus and shipped in from there. Very, very risky. These preparations need protection, so I've ordered a STRONG LRCAP over Tinian. Several crack units will take part. The Combined Fleet is now in Japan with 400 ac and the Taiho and Kaga have taken aboard 150 crack naval ac. In total we can field 550 ac now. The KB LIVES! [&o] Grand Admiral Yamamoto now only awaits the right moment to release the Imperial Legions! [8D] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/05/44 Air Combat Look at all these unescorted strikes against Tinian! We must act!! Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 9 TBM Avenger x 96 Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 193 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Airbase hits 5 Runway hits 43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 13 F4U-1D Corsair x 23 TBM Avenger x 50 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 55 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 21 Port supply hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29 Superfortress x 93 Japanese aircraft losses H8K Emily: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 112 casualties reported Airbase hits 13 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 132 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 8th Heavy Artillery Brigade, at 62,65 - NOO! My artillery Bd!! Pigs [:@] Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 10 TBM Avenger x 17 Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged Japanese ground losses: 53 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 55th/C Division, at 62,65 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 58 Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 3 damaged Japanese ground losses: 9 casualties reported Guns lost 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 55th/C Division, at 62,65 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 19 SB2C Helldiver x 93 Allied aircraft losses SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged Japanese ground losses: 193 casualties reported Guns lost 5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Turnip Surprise - Phase 1.5 Several 'cunning plans' prepared for this turn! We can hope to achieve the following: 1. Move substantial reinforcements to Tinian. 2. Destroy large numbers of enemy ac. 3. Lure an enemy carrier division closer to the Palaus and give em he11. [image]local://upfiles/1466/BDB078B53092497791347383F9627CB1.jpg[/image]

Fishbed -> RE: CAP brings down 200 enemy ac! (7/9/2006 5:21:26 PM)
quote: You are right Admiral, the war will be decided in the Marianas, so why take any chances. I am French too but not Admiral yet contrary to our national hero Laurent but thanks anyway�[:D]�[;)] Today there is football final, but I still cross fingers rather for your anyway PzB. You're not payed half their salary for playing your own game, you deserve some compensation [:D]

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