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Honda -> RE: B-29s hit Clark Field! (7/30/2006 8:19:56 PM)
Kamis can't preform night naval attacks. This move by Andy, if it turns out to be genuine, is a big threat. One base can destabilize your whole position. You may be forced to sortie the Combined Fleet if he makes a foothold. Do you have any reserve troops for a counterattack? What size is Zamboanga at the moment?

PzB74 -> Zamboanga invaded! (7/30/2006 10:10:27 PM)
Sometimes I think Andy is psychic [;)] Yesterday he hit a troop convoy of Tacloban and invaded Zamboanga 1 day before a troop convoy arrived there. Today destroyers appeared at Zamboanga and the carriers had sprinted into perfect position to hit whatever remnants they could find... [8\|] The problem with these 'leaps' Honda, is that they are almost impossible to wipe out. 1 hour after paras secure a base 150 enemy ac will be moved in - even before the arrival of Base Force equippment. Today 50 Corsairs were on CAP over Zamboanga and 2 CV TFs parked outside. As we know it takes 1000 Zekes to match 50 Corsairs...so now it will only be a question of time before more troops have been airlifted in. A perfect executed attack by Andy - all honor to him! I told him that his frontline looks like an old crooked twig by now [;)] We manage to destroy a few ac on the ground and shoot down 16 Dakotas through LRCAP. The loss of Zamboanga is painful and I will attempt to reclaim it. Easy it will not be and I have to ignore the heavy losses that will be incurred. There are several divisions that can be utilized, the problem is how to get them ashore. So the Combined Fleet has sortied and will arrive within a week. It may already be too late by then, but we'll see. A heavy CAP has been moved into the adjacent bases and I will try to hit Zamboanga with a super heavy bomber attack. If we can close the airfields Andy may find it difficult to reopen them without enough supplies. Our best interceptors will be but on CAP or LRCAP in the region and attempt to protect the fleeing troop ships. Perhaps it is possible to make the enemy TFs vulnerable by weakening their CAP? In a week the KB will arrive with 500 ac and the Nihon Kaigun. By then we should have 9 Kamikaze groups ready for action. Somehow we have to try to turn this incident into a victory!! [:-] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/19/44 Sub/ASW Attacks ASW attack at 24,52 Japanese Ships MSW W.14 PC Shonan Maru #17 PC Fumi Maru #3 PG Nikkai Maru Allied Ships SS Cavalla, hits 9, on fire, heavy damage - another sub for Dave Jones locker.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surface Combat A bit spooky how these 4 dd's appeared today! The transports hadn't even been spotted by the enemy.... [:(] Night Time Surface Combat, near Zamboanga at 39,59 Japanese Ships MSW Aoi Maru, Shell hits 6, and is sunk MSW Choun Maru #8, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk PG Magan Maru AP Kisaragi Maru AP Shirashika Maru AP Tarushima Maru AP Tsunushima Maru, Shell hits 2 AP Haisho Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire AP Konsan Maru, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships DD Burns, Shell hits 1 DD Swanson, Shell hits 3 Japanese ground losses: 441 casualties reported Guns lost 8 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Zamboanga at 39,59 Japanese Ships MSW Choyo Maru #2 MSW Kyo Maru #1 AP Giyu Maru AP Gosei Maru AP Hakutetsu Maru #13, Shell hits 18, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk AP Heiku Maru AP Hokumyo Maru Allied Ships DD Caperton DD Capps Japanese ground losses: 610 casualties reported Guns lost 5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat Day Air attack on Zamboanga , at 39,59 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 17 D4Y Judy x 26 Ki-21 Sally x 20 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 14 F4U-1D Corsair x 46 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 17 destroyed D4Y Judy: 8 destroyed, 1 damaged Ki-21 Sally: 6 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 1 damaged F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged PBY Catalina: 1 destroyed Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 15 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Zamboanga , at 39,59 Japanese aircraft Ki-21 Sally x 15 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 14 F4U-1D Corsair x 46 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 1 damaged F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 5 Aircraft Attacking: 8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 4000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 40,60 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 6 SB2C Helldiver x 26 TBM Avenger x 16 Allied aircraft losses SB2C Helldiver: 2 damaged Japanese Ships AP Haisho Maru AP Kisaragi Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire PG Magan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire AP Tsunushima Maru AP Tarushima Maru AP Shirashika Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Japanese ground losses: 30 casualties reported ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ground Combat Emirau falls without almost without opposition! Ground combat at Emirau Island Allied Shock attack Attacking force 952 troops, 32 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 59 Defending force 160 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4 Allied max assault: 68 - adjusted assault: 70 Japanese max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 70 to 1 (fort level 9) Allied forces CAPTURE Emirau Island base !!! Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zamboanga The current situation: The Combined Fleet should move in west of Manila within cover of LBA. Should be possible to bomb Zamboanga back into the stone age with battleships! Several troop convoys will stand ready to move in. [image]local://upfiles/1466/1EE9C5C15C1C4FF8BC760A8404A4A567.jpg[/image]

Jim D Burns -> RE: Zamboanga invaded! (7/31/2006 2:16:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PzB The current situation: The Combined Fleet should move in west of Manila within cover of LBA. Should be possible to bomb Zamboanga back into the stone age with battleships! Several troop convoys will stand ready to move in. I think Andy may be pushing a little too hard with this move, it just feels like he hasn’t really taken enough time to consolidate his other recent gains (of course the allies have a lot of stuff on map by now so I could be wrong). It might be a better strategy for you to strike out at his supporting bases that feed Zamboanga rather than throw yourself on the tip of his spear. As you stated he executed this attack well and is probably prepared for and eagerly anticipating your strong counterthrust. I doubt he is as well prepared for an attack one or two bases back in his supply chain. Of course this assumes you can get forces into position without being detected. Anyway just a little food for thought. Great AAR. Jim

castor troy -> RE: Zamboanga invaded! (7/31/2006 9:00:23 PM)
PzB, you mentioned you have a couple of "elite daitais" upgraded to Franks and Georges already. Can you deploy them in addition to Combined fleet. On the paper experienced Frank pilots should be capable of dealing with Corsairs especially when you have superior numbers. Can you mount 3 experienced daitais of Franks? The Zekes of the Combined fleet will be eaten alive in escort role against his Corsairs on CAP over the base or Hellcats over enemy carriers. What if you bring your carriers in position one or two turns away from the action and begin with your Franks and Georges. If you have success against his land based Corsairs Andy may be a bit nervous and would perhaps retreat his couple of carriers as only a couple of his birdfarms would then not be enough. 200 - 300 land based bombers could then close the airfield, Franks (if any remaining [:)]) could escort possible naval strikes and Combined fleet should cover the invasion transports.

PzB74 -> RE: Zamboanga invaded! (7/31/2006 11:21:24 PM)
Jim and Castor, nice with 'new' faces in here...seen you before, but not that often! Appreciate the input [:)] First day at work today, a bit tired so no turn. Yes, Andy has pushed far ahead of his logistical supply chain - but I'm afraid that the game lets him get away with it [:(] I played todays combat replay and it wasn't a pretty sight. 325 ac lost for 75 enemy ones - and I did committ some Franks and new type interceptors. Our main raid from Luzon didn't materialize and the enemy af remained open. Andy is playing perfectly, but I loose both sleep and motivation over the way it happens. From New Guinea and northwards there is now a string of bases that all have been captured by the same 'receipt: 1. Paras 2. Immediate CAP and airlift It's working, but only because it's possible to make a size 3 af fully operational in a couple of hours and because Corsairs are so uber deadly. Must admit I'm running a bit tired of rebuilding shattered Daitais after a single days fighting, it's such a hassle in the long run and especially when it happens all the time [8\|] Regarding a strike to the enemy's rear: If I can't take out a small size 2-3 af, how can I even get close to a size 5 or 6 base? LBA will smash our TFs and enemy carriers finish the remnants... I have thought about it several times, but can't come up with a feasible plan. So I'm afraid I'm stuck with the spearhead. Already 9k enemy troops there after 2 days, so it's already turning into a large fort. Castor: the Franks didn't perform as well as I hoped. The George's are sharper swords. Should have about 150 high exp Franks ready by now, but hundreds of Superforts make it very dangerous to even base them anywhere near Zamboanga. The question is whether I should throw in the kitchen sink in order to oppose Andy at Zamboanga? Not sure I like it anymore than leaving it alone.

Fishbed -> RE: Zamboanga invaded! (8/1/2006 12:24:02 AM)
pisses me off. Well long live the Nick Mod! [:o][&o]

1275psi -> RE: Zamboanga invaded! (8/1/2006 12:33:16 AM)
Although legit, I too agree, Andys mode of operation is not bringing him much glory or credit in my eyes either, game allows it, yet have we thought how a A/F construction needs a bulldozer or dozen ? never heard of a Dak able to carry one[8\|] Anyway, keep fighting, morally as soon as he gave up the Siapan invasion -a real attempt at an invasion - I credited to you victory in my mind Just my opinion, others will disagree of course!

PzB74 -> RE: Zamboanga invaded! (8/1/2006 12:56:43 AM)
Let's not despair - Zamboanga doesn't bring victory to Andy - and it's the only way he can even get close to the Home Islands within the historical time limit! So let's give him the credit he deserves and hope that he runs his fleet aground next time he comes around [;)] Playing Japan we profit greatly from the ability to place torpedo bombers and Zekes in newly occupied bases. Again, all that Japan can do early the US can do with a vengeance in 44! It's like sowing a wind and harvesting a whirlwind... So, what is the most annoying thing we can do against Andy now? [:D] Let's cook up something nasty...! [8D]

The Duke -> RE: Zamboanga invaded! (8/1/2006 6:29:05 AM)
PzB, sorry to see the info on the Corsairs.....I'm now in Dec '43 in my PBEM, PDU-on.....i.e., he has corsairs over every TF and base.....30 Corsairs on a size 1 airfield = invincibility for the allies....simply no way Zekes, Tonys, etc can compete....every airgroup he can convert to F4Us he has.... I have a bit of hope for the George's, which are now starting to filter into my air groups....but I don't think they'll be able to handle Corsairs either. That bothers me about the Franks....I'm really counting on them to stem the tide of mega 4-engine raids. Oh, almost forgot....by some mishap in the coding, around early '43 his ground and air reinforcements advanced 6 months....like I invaded the states, but of course I didn't. So, other than several divisions, ships, tons of squadrons, etc....he received four 48-count B-29 superfortress squadrons in October '43.....how great is that? Now I'm having to deal with 200 B29s that didn't exist historically until April '44....and the first historical B29 raid was in June '44..... This game is tough enough for the few of us hanging tough in the later years as the Japanese. PDU-on is....shall we say....very difficult [8\|] Keep up the fight! You are inspiring me to fight on in '44 [8D]

AmiralLaurent -> RE: Zamboanga invaded! (8/1/2006 10:17:55 AM)
PzB, just a question: what is your average small base garrison ? A small base force with replacement on should have 40 ASS points and may be prepared to 100% to the base, with forts, it may resist a para assault... especially as US paras are used so often that they propably don't have high preparation status. Then you may have a chance to carry more troops with air transports and ships and delay the offensive. Of course I have no idea: 1) how much C-47 Andy uses, maybe he is able to drop a full RCT on day one.... 2) how bad the Japanese BF will fight once it has bombed the same turn by B-29s and so on. Or for days... Then you can also use my idea of dividing a division into a dozen components by loading it into ships, and then sailing 2-3 ships to each of your base, that will allow you to have, with a BF and a partial Div, between 80 and 120 ASS points in 4-5 bases with 4-5 small BF and a Div. Enough to resist any paradrop or FT invasion.

Fishbed -> RE: Zamboanga invaded! (8/1/2006 2:07:46 PM)
quote: yet have we thought how a A/F construction needs a bulldozer or dozen ? never heard of a Dak able to carry one Well in fact this is maybe not the most controversial thing in there - French actually managed to airlift M-24s to Dien Bien Phu in 1954 using Daks and Ju-52, splitting them into pieces, I suppose dozers could make it too [:)] Well but Im not sure they were truly operationnal the day after they arrived btw [;)] And it was not during the heat of the battle of course. I just checked. Apparently dozers were air-dropped (probably in pieces) on the very first days of the building of the camp construction. Well looks like that was indeed possible...

castor troy -> RE: Zamboanga invaded! (8/2/2006 7:11:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PzB Jim and Castor, nice with 'new' faces in here...seen you before, but not that often! Appreciate the input [:)] First day at work today, a bit tired so no turn. Yes, Andy has pushed far ahead of his logistical supply chain - but I'm afraid that the game lets him get away with it [:(] I played todays combat replay and it wasn't a pretty sight. 325 ac lost for 75 enemy ones - and I did committ some Franks and new type interceptors. Our main raid from Luzon didn't materialize and the enemy af remained open. Andy is playing perfectly, but I loose both sleep and motivation over the way it happens. From New Guinea and northwards there is now a string of bases that all have been captured by the same 'receipt: 1. Paras 2. Immediate CAP and airlift It's working, but only because it's possible to make a size 3 af fully operational in a couple of hours and because Corsairs are so uber deadly. Must admit I'm running a bit tired of rebuilding shattered Daitais after a single days fighting, it's such a hassle in the long run and especially when it happens all the time [8\|] Regarding a strike to the enemy's rear: If I can't take out a small size 2-3 af, how can I even get close to a size 5 or 6 base? LBA will smash our TFs and enemy carriers finish the remnants... I have thought about it several times, but can't come up with a feasible plan. So I'm afraid I'm stuck with the spearhead. Already 9k enemy troops there after 2 days, so it's already turning into a large fort. Castor: the Franks didn't perform as well as I hoped. The George's are sharper swords. Should have about 150 high exp Franks ready by now, but hundreds of Superforts make it very dangerous to even base them anywhere near Zamboanga. The question is whether I should throw in the kitchen sink in order to oppose Andy at Zamboanga? Not sure I like it anymore than leaving it alone. Really strange that Georges perform better than Franks. IIRC the Frank is around 35 mpH faster than the George and speed is the most important thing in A2A in the game. The Frank is only 20 or 25 mpH slower than the Corsair. I thought that experienced pilots could achieve at least a 1:2 ratio against the Corsair. [8\|]

Honda -> RE: Zamboanga invaded! (8/2/2006 7:29:21 PM)
They should. But much depends on the type of mission. If they were on escort - R.I.P. If not, my suggerstion is try again. They won't outpreform Corsair, but they will should do at least 1:2 ratio.

Mynok -> RE: Zamboanga invaded! (8/2/2006 9:49:12 PM)
I agree 100% based on my experience (only 1942 so far) that Sweep is a far better mission than escort for killing off CAP.

PzB74 -> RE: Zamboanga invaded! (8/2/2006 10:05:45 PM)
The Corsair is a big headache, no doubt - but we destroyed 21 today. How many does Andy receive each month? Perhaps we can exhaust his supply! Need to test the Frank further: only a small number in combat today - but it was against P-38s and their performance wasn't all that good. Sent quite a few fighters on sweep missions over Zamboanga - a few returned [:'(] A bit afraid that I have to garrison central Burma soon, pretty sure Andy will para drop from the PI to the next battlefield <G>. Well, Zamboanga was the only lightly defended size 3 AF in the region and troops were 1 hex away when paras invaded. Laurent: I was in the process of distributing forces, but didn't have time to reinforce all of my bases. Usually I got an SNLF unit + 3-5 fort lvls in even size 2 AF bases. The problem occurred when Andy dropped into Sulawesi and suddenly got within range of 20 relatively weekly defended smaller bases. It took time to reinforce them and with psychic precision... [:(] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/20/44 Andy laid mines at Manila...even though he's forbidden to! Minelayed 4Es can't be intercepted and CAP'ed bases are not valid targets. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 41 encounters mine field at Manila (43,52) Japanese Ships MSW Tama Maru #5 MSW Tama Maru #3 MSW Ataka Maru MSW Wa 21 MSW Wa 20 Japanese ground losses: [&:] 362 casualties reported Guns lost 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat Day Air attack on Zamboanga , at 39,59 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 2 A6M5 Zeke x 92 N1K1-J George x 16 J2M Jack x 13 C6N Myrt x 3 Ki-21 Sally x 63 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 32 F4U-1 Corsair x 10 F4U-1D Corsair x 29 Japanese aircraft losses If you take a look at these losses you see how impossible life becomes when Corsairs are placed above a newly captured base. 39 Corsairs and 32 Hellcats vs 94 Zekes, 16 George, 13 Jack and 63 Sallys. Losses: 129/23. Guess we have to continue to pick away at the pests - monthly supply isn't too big I hope. How many F4U-1D Corsaris arrive each month? A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 86 destroyed N1K1-J George: 11 destroyed J2M Jack: 12 destroyed Ki-21 Sally: 18 destroyed, 3 damaged Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 7 destroyed, 8 damaged F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged F4U-1D Corsair: 14 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 7 casualties reported Airbase hits 9 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 36 Aircraft Attacking: 8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 1 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Zamboanga , at 39,59 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 59 Ki-21 Sally x 91 Ki-49 Helen x 27 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 14 F4U-1 Corsair x 6 F4U-1D Corsair x 11 Japanese aircraft losses - 78/3 loss ratio [8\|] Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 54 destroyed Ki-21 Sally: 21 destroyed, 4 damaged Ki-49 Helen: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged F4U-1 Corsair: 1 damaged F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged Allied ground losses: 7 casualties reported Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 18 Aircraft Attacking: - Sally's doesn't carry enough punch to close even a small AF. 7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 4000 feet 15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet 4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 14 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 4000 feet 4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet 4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 4000 feet 6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 4000 feet 6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 4000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet 2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 4000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 4000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 4000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 1 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 4000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 4000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Franks didn't perform too well, but they were outnumbered. Need to gather a bigger force. Impossible to defend a small base against huge attacks - can't get up enough CAP fighters. Day Air attack on Jolo , at 38,59 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 26 N1K1-J George x 4 J2M Jack x 21 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 11 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 6 Ki-84-Ia Frank x 17 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 90 B-29 Superfortress x 94 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 16 destroyed N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed J2M Jack: 12 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 11 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 7 destroyed Ki-84-Ia Frank: 15 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-38J Lightning: 20 destroyed, 8 damaged B-29 Superfortress: 3 damaged Japanese ground losses: 13 casualties reported Airbase hits 6 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 48 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sent an ASW group to Jolo to draw fire away from the transports. Worked. Day Air attack on TF, near Jolo at 38,59 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 12 N1K1-J George x 1 J2M Jack x 13 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 2 Ki-84-Ia Frank x 7 Allied aircraft TBM Avenger x 45 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 3 damaged Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 6 destroyed, 21 damaged Japanese Ships PC PC-26 PC PC-6 PC Etoforu PC PC-5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Jolo at 38,59 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 12 N1K1-J George x 1 J2M Jack x 13 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 2 Ki-84-Ia Frank x 7 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 8 SB2C Helldiver x 76 TBM Avenger x 17 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed J2M Jack: 2 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 1 destroyed Ki-84-Ia Frank: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged SB2C Helldiver: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese Ships PC Aguni, Bomb hits 1, on fire APD APD-46, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage PC Kurahashi, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage PC Kusagaki, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage PC Tsushima -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A small success: DMS are high value targets! Day Air attack on TF at 44,73 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 3 P1Y Frances x 13 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y Frances: 1 damaged Allied Ships DMS Elliot DMS Palmer, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage sinks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Situation map: Zamboanga The fleet and several divisions will concentrate around Manila. I want to be able to hit any weak spots that may appear in Andy's fronts. Give me another 5 days and we'll be ready. [image]local://upfiles/1466/3326B98A4D7E458CA8356364DC078ED4.jpg[/image]

PzB74 -> RE: Zamboanga invaded! (8/2/2006 10:06:47 PM)
Breakdown of todays air losses: No serious losses, but they're heavy! Still, we managed to bring down a number of enemy fighters. [image]local://upfiles/1466/C3BEE1B7888248B587F4E149CA6251EC.jpg[/image]

castor troy -> RE: Zamboanga invaded! (8/2/2006 10:09:59 PM)
I think Andy gets 140 Corsairs each month. With both versions he has probably 1000+ on the map. Enough to kill 100.000 or your fighters. [8\|]

kkoovvoo -> RE: Zamboanga invaded! (8/2/2006 10:33:08 PM)
f4u-1 - 1OO monthly f4u-1d -150 monthly too much for attrition

PzB74 -> RE: Zamboanga invaded! (8/2/2006 11:06:38 PM)
True..but the F4U-1D can't have been around for long. That's the bloody carrier capable version of the vermin. Perhaps Andy's pool is quite small if these ac are sucked straight into new units? Can always hope, he wasn't happy about his Hellcat pool! [;)]

PzB74 -> RE: Zamboanga invaded! (8/2/2006 11:36:22 PM)
I asked Andy what he thought about me not training my Zekes anymore and simply sending 1000 Oscars and Zekes into battle as bait and cannon fodder each month in order to give my bombers and 2nd gen interceptors a chance. Would be a defeat for WitP me thinks...pilot skills shouldn't be this meaningless. Not sure it's worth the effort, yesterdays 110 Zeke casualties yesterday tells its own tale. 90% of all Allied casualties were caused by the new interceptors while these ac made up only 10-15% of the total Jap fighters.

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: Zamboanga invaded! (8/3/2006 12:21:57 AM)
I think if you tried training up oscars and zekes you'd go insane with all the extra micro-management if nothing else. Probably lose what existing will to carry on imo too. your still doing damn well though, its such a shame the corsair is SO powerful, serious design issue there i think. good luck and as always a good read ,, thank you

PzB74 -> Zamboanga hit by 300 Jap bombers! (8/3/2006 1:18:22 AM)
Much truth in that Rob! I'm not eager to train cannon fodder...trained Zekes can play a role defending their own base. Today the Empire hit back and 300 bombers devastated Zamboanga! [8D] The enemy carriers have retreated and it now seems like it will be possible to pound the shamless invades back into the stoneage. All our bombers have been ordered to strike, strike, strike! Our fighters will fly escort, CAP and sweep missions. If Andy move move Corsairs in they will be destroyed in the air and on the ground. With high fatigue from transfer and high levels (67) of AF damage, they can't possible be very effective. Our fleet is assembling at Takao and will sail for Manila tomorrow. As many as 4 divisions are preparing for a mighty counter strike. I've put a Sally Daitai in Kamikaze mission in order to destroy the damage Miami still at Zamboanga. 30 crack Emily's have been put on night naval attack and our night fighter bombers will be sent into action. Let's see how Andy responds to this threat...I'm tired of taking all the $hit! [:-] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/21/44 Surface Combat My patrol craft fought of some enemy destroyers! The SS Cavella is reported sunk by asw ac south of Singapore. Night Time Surface Combat, near Jolo at 38,59 Japanese Ships PC Etoforu PC Tsushima PC PC-5 PC PC-6 PC PC-9 PC PC-26 Allied Ships DD Fletcher DD Abbot DD Burns, Shell hits 2 DD Conway -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- At Tawi Tawi several damaged transports were sunk by enemy raiders! Fortunately no troop losses. Night Time Surface Combat, near Tawi Tawi at 38,60 Japanese Ships PG Magan Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk AP Kisaragi Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships CL Miami DD Caperton DD Capps DD Swanson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Tawi Tawi at 38,60 Japanese Ships AP Shirashika Maru, Shell hits 8, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Miami DD Caperton DD Capps DD Swanson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Tawi Tawi at 38,60 Japanese Ships MSW Kyo Maru #1, Shell hits 8, and is sunk AP Haisho Maru, Shell hits 28, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Miami DD Caperton DD Capps DD Swanson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1071 encounters mine field at Zamboanga (39,59) Allied Ships DD Swanson DD Capps -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1079 encounters mine field at Zamboanga (39,59) Allied Ships DD Abbot -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat Finally - the decisive strike I've been waiting for! [&o] Day Air attack on Zamboanga , at 39,59 Japanese aircraft [:D] J1N1-S Irving x 28 G4M1 Betty x 88 G4M2 Betty x 206 P1Y Frances x 103 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 109 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 10 F4U-1D Corsair x 9 Japanese aircraft losses J1N1-S Irving: 16 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed P1Y Frances: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 57 destroyed Allied aircraft losses - another 16 Corsairs scorched! F4U-1 Corsair: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged F4U-1D Corsair: 7 destroyed SB2C Helldiver: 7 destroyed Allied ground losses: 40 casualties reported Airbase hits 18 Airbase supply hits 16 Runway hits 129 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- With the enemy fighters gone our naval bombers scream in and devastate the light cruiser Miami! [8D] Day Air attack on TF, near Zamboanga at 39,59 Japanese aircraft D4Y Judy x 19 Japanese aircraft losses D4Y Judy: 4 destroyed, 11 damaged Allied Ships CL Miami, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Zamboanga at 39,59 Japanese aircraft B7A Grace x 9 Japanese aircraft losses B7A Grace: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged Allied Ships DD Abbot --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Nemo121 -> RE: Zamboanga hit by 300 Jap bombers! (8/3/2006 1:35:43 AM)
After what happened with his last attempted invasion I think you are entirely correct to focus on destroying this invasion at almost all costs. Psychologically this will represent a series of reverses and cannot help but make Andy much more risk-averse in future operations. Risk-averse = slower and less ambitious and that works entirely to your advantage. Also, any chance of making a Betty squadron into kamikazes so we could see some long-range strikes against his support fleet elements? You've had such luck with Judys operatin along the spine of PNG that I think a kamikaze Betty airgroup operating from a few of these fields ( 9 planes from each field) would cause havoc and tend to draw air cover away from the Allied spear tip ( which helps you in countering any thrusts he may make).

PzB74 -> RE: Zamboanga hit by 300 Jap bombers! (8/3/2006 1:46:36 AM)
If Andy brings his carriers back to Zamboanga it will become nasty...but by then the Combined Fleet will be within striking range supported by the thousands of ac on the PI. Yes, I may choose to challenge Andy over the little mosquito paradise called Zamboanga [;)] We HAVE to close the fields though and prevent reinforcements from getting in. If he committs his fleet this would mean postponing his other planned operations if nothing else. I'm trying to save up a big number of Kamikaze units - can convert 1 for each day. But yes, I am willing to convert a Betty group and see what they can achieve. Most likely they will kill themselves against an Uber CAP somehere, but we may get lucky. Kami groups are supposed to be 60%? more accurate than plain bombers!

Nemo121 -> RE: Zamboanga hit by 300 Jap bombers! (8/3/2006 1:57:37 AM)
60%. Hmm, had never heard this before. If it is true ( and you can get the bettys to fly in small numbers ( get through CAP better this way) by splitting the group into 3 distinct units then you may acheive something worthwhile.

ChezDaJez -> RE: Zamboanga hit by 300 Jap bombers! (8/3/2006 2:37:26 AM)
Now that his air defences are hurting over Zamboanga, you might want to consider a LR CAP over it to prevent air supply by his transports. he will probably attempt to resupply by sub too if his supply situtation warrants it. IMO, this is the place for a large scale battle. If he manages to maintain his foothold here, the PI is lost. Once the PI is lost, Japan is cutoff from the majority of her oil and resources. plus he can station B-29s at Clark that can raid China and the Home Islands. And that also means the end. I don't know what your oil/resource situation is like in the Home Islands but I'm sure that there probably isn't enough for more than a few months production. There is much danger if you fail as it hastens the end but if you succeed, Andy will be forced to take a long, hard look at whatever other operations he is planning on at the moment. And that will buy you time. It is much better to stand in the the PI than it is in Tokyo Bay. One other thing to think about. If you manage to recapture Zamboanga, leave only enough force there to stave off another grab otherwise he will just bypass the place and leave those units stranded. I am thoroughly enjoying this AAR. I am also playing Andy (we are in April 42) and this is giving me alot of insight into what I can expect from him. He is a crafty opponent as I have discovered on numerous occasions.... much to my chagrin! Chez

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: Zamboanga hit by 300 Jap bombers! (8/3/2006 2:53:02 AM)
Great going .. nuff said [:D] dead corsairs and a battered runway .. i have my fingers crossed for you

Fishbed -> RE: Zamboanga hit by 300 Jap bombers! (8/3/2006 5:26:28 PM)
Two thumbs up boss! Well when my connect will be back (probably when I'll get back to China in september), got somethin' for ya about good old Mariana times... For a change we'll see the flying heroes with something else than 2D tops ;)

PzB74 -> RE: Zamboanga hit by 300 Jap bombers! (8/3/2006 6:18:46 PM)
Nemo, it is possible that I just dreamt up that Kamis are more accurate than ordinary ordnance...thought I read it somewhere but can't find it in the manual. Anyone? I have LRCAP'ed Zamboanga Ches - took down 16 Dakotas 2 days ago. This time there are almost 100 fighters in place to intercept. Andy has promised that he got a big happening on the way...and it's not going to be airborne. So if we are to believe him Zamboanga was just seized by chance. As you may have noticed, Andy never makes any detours. He frog leaps in a straight line towards the Home Islands. Having given up on the Marianas I would expect him to make a major assault on Luzon/Formosa while also conducting operations against Borneo. The latter is the easiest target, and as soon this place falls the house of cards will collapse: .) The Empire will be divided in two. .) Oil and resource convoys will be cut of. *.) Burma and Malaysia with all their (undefended) bases will lay open for invasion. My only hope is that we can delay this for as long as possible, perhaps late 44. The question is whether I should start pulling troops back from various bases in order to reinforce the 'Inner Citadel'. Woleai is one candidate. Can evacuate troops into the Marianas and ship back. I'm also considering to reducing the defenses of the Palaus/Marianas. Perhaps 2-3 divisions and aux units. We're still holding on to all the major bases from Central PNG and Northwards, so I think Andy will do his outmost so secure a natural size 4 and up AF base. I also agree with you that the PI is as good as place as any to make a stand. Plenty of supporting bases and our supply lines will be quite short. Ac can fly in from the Home Islands and China in no time and launch massive strikes ala the one we hit Zamboanga with yesterday. 400 bombers is a nifty force [;)] Thx for the support guys, looking forward to the Marianas surprise Fish [:)]

WhoCares -> RE: Zamboanga hit by 300 Jap bombers! (8/3/2006 6:39:39 PM)
Are bases like Ponape or Wewak still operational? These might be good locations to harras his supply routes with Oscar-Kamikazes (don't like the idea of Betty-Kamikazes for such operations and Oscars will be well sufficient to trash some freighters; you also need bigger airfields for Ms Betty). Such ops might not be worth a lot with respect to successful strikes but it might be sufficient to bind considerable forces (fighters and/or bombers) in his backwaters to CAP TFs or keep the bases closed. Bring along some Dinahs (or even some float planes) on other nearby bases (for the nice little aircraft symbol) and he will go nuts micromanaging all the CAP, bombardments and rerouting of TFs [:'(]

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