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brigada -> La Maldita AI (10/28/2004 8:23:26 PM)

Hola/Hi:

(Not to write in English, this way well that I it have to write in Spanish, sorry.....)

La AI es frustante.

estoy jugando en el nivel mas dificil "very hard", la campaña es la grande "Scenario 15", estoy en el 01/26/43, tengo ocupado tugali y lunga y los japoneses, se pasean de Rabaul a Russell Is con una TF de 15 0 16 barcos de los cuales 5 o 6 son cv o cvl, hasta aqui todo bien, pero lo que no me gusta es que teniendo bastantes daños y no pudiendo lanzar entre todos los cv o cvl mas que 6 cazas, continua paseandose de abajo a arriba, sin retirarse.
Asi que durante 15 o 20 turnos, mis aviones se ponen las botas, con lo que la partida pierde bastante interes......

mejorara la AI con el Parche 1.3?[:@]



fbastos -> RE: La Maldita AI (10/28/2004 8:47:38 PM)

Translation is:

The AI is frustrating.

I'm playing on the "very hard" level, the big campaign "scenario 15"; I'm in 01/26/43 and I've occupied Tugali and Lunga. The Japanese keep moving from Rabaul to Russel with a TF of 15 or 16 ships, from which 5 or 6 are CVs or CVLs, what is alright but what I don't like is that having enough damage and without being able to launch from all ships no more than 6 fighters, it keeps strolling back and forth without retiring.

Therefore during 15 or 20 turns, my aircraft put their boots (uh? perhaps expression meaning "kick them"), with that the game lose a lot of interest.

Does the AI improve with patch 1.3?

F.

PS: Not a spanish-speaking guy here, but I can usually understand what they say.
PS II: Thread title is "The Damned AI", if you're wondering



brigada -> RE: La Maldita AI (10/28/2004 9:01:07 PM)

perfect, Thank you very much



Kwik E Mart -> RE: La Maldita AI (10/28/2004 9:10:36 PM)

que?



fbastos -> RE: La Maldita AI (10/28/2004 9:15:05 PM)

Something I have been advocating for quite some time is to add yourself some restrictions for the effect of suspending disbelief.

My point is: the game allows you to do a lot of stuff that in real life you can't. For example, you can give orders to all of your ships and air groups at the same time, and they are immediately executed. I believe that in real life it takes several days if not weeks to have everybody involved ready to do anything.

That gives the human player an unfair advantage over the AI; while it's true that the AI could do the same in theory, I think the AI was programmed to slow down its actions and be morose, as an attempt to play historically. As the human player isn't bound to that and can play as unhistorically as he wants, that's the advantage.

F.



TulliusDetritus -> RE: La Maldita AI (10/28/2004 9:43:19 PM)

[Brigada, refrena tus impulsos homicidas y perdónale la vida a la AI. Es lo que hay. Si ves que hace algo así, simplemente no "dejes" que tus aviones masacren sus buques. Qué le vamos a hacer?! Me temo que el próximo patch no solucionará esto, aunque igual estoy equivocado. Lo dicho, no andes sediento de sangre, no te encabrites, porque sino no hay color [:)]]

Sorry for not using english, guys.



kaleun -> RE: La Maldita AI (10/28/2004 10:25:45 PM)

Brigada: El nuevo "patch" parece que mejorara algo la AI, pero no esperes mucho de el.
Para que la AI juegue razonablemente, es necesario seguir mas bien de cerca el transcurso historico de la guerra. Si haces algo radicalmente fuera de la historia, la AI se pierde.
Es por eso que yo he dejado de jugar contra la AI (excepto para experimentar algo) y solo juego por e-mail contra adversarios "vivos". Es mas interesante pues no sabes por donde co*o te van a salir.
Si quieres un juego por e-mail, dejame saber.
Hasta luego



brigada -> RE: La Maldita AI (10/29/2004 5:02:44 PM)

in reply to kaleun:

claro que prefiero jugar contra "vivos", pero suelo probar antes los dos bandos en las campañas completas para saber hasta donde pueden llegar, pero la P**A, AI me ha fastidiado. No le estoy pidiendo mucho, cuando tengas un barco con XX de daños retirate a reparar, no acumules 100.000 hombres en una pequeña isla y tengas
2500 hombres en Rabaul, cosas logicas, no pido mas.............

ok, si quieres podemos, jugar por pbem, pero esperamos al 1.3 no?, te aviso yo?



kaleun -> RE: La Maldita AI (10/29/2004 6:42:40 PM)

Si esperemos al 1.3. Me avisas cuando estes listo[:)]



RAM -> RE: La Maldita AI (10/29/2004 7:15:02 PM)

joñe, no sabia que habia tanto hispanoparlante por aqui ;)

no andara por aqui chema cagi?


in english:


holy cow, didn't know there were so many spanish-speaking people around here!!!.


Is Chema Cagi around here???



TulliusDetritus -> RE: La Maldita AI (10/29/2004 7:45:08 PM)

I may even talk in chinese through telephone [:D]



kaleun -> RE: La Maldita AI (10/29/2004 8:04:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

I may even talk in chinese through telephone [:D]



San Fu Ka! Nei yao mu Chin soi me?

Take a deep breath. Did you break your water bag?
(I'm an Ob Gyn, what can I say, all my Mandarin is related to pushing babies out...)



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