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toraq -> Japanese ships auto damage (2/19/2005 11:49:31 PM)
I was just testing a naval battle in the Marianas scenario and after a draw battle with american BBs, this is what happened: My TF met many PT boats and in the process they started to increase the damage, without reason...and that ended with -Yamato is going to sink due to a torpedo launched by a PT boat...[:(] -Musashi is going to sink due to a 14.1 and a 16.1 inches hits [:(] -Nagato is going to sink due to a single hit [:(] -Kongo sunk due to a PT torpedo and two or three shots...maybe this is the only one that could be justified... Of course none of the hits were Magazine Explosions... Here is the combat report after the night engagement with the American BB. See how the BB start to become from On fire to On fire, Heavy damaged, without a reason...[:(] Night Time Surface Combat, near Saipan at 63,64 Japanese Ships BB Kongo, on fire BB Haruna BB Nagato, on fire BB Yamato BB Musashi, on fire CA Chikuma CA Atago CA Chokai CA Haguro, on fire CA Kumano DD Akitsuki, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Wakazuki, on fire DD Nowaki, Torpedo hits 1, on fire DD Asagumo Allied Ships PT PT-20, Shell hits 3, and is sunk PT PT-40 PT PT-46 PT PT-107 PT PT-374 PT PT-463, Shell hits 7, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Saipan at 63,64 Japanese Ships ***three ships on fire, only the Kongo was hit heavily*BB Kongo, on fire BB Haruna BB Nagato, on fire BB Yamato BB Musashi, on fire CA Chikuma CA Atago CA Chokai CA Haguro, on fire CA Kumano DD Akitsuki, on fire DD Wakazuki, on fire DD Nowaki, on fire, heavy damage DD Asagumo Allied Ships PT PT-23, Shell hits 12, and is sunk PT PT-77 PT PT-132 PT PT-310 PT PT-342 PT PT-477 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Saipan at 63,64 Japanese Ships BB Kongo, on fire BB Haruna BB Nagato, on fire BB Yamato BB Musashi, on fire CA Chikuma CA Atago CA Chokai CA Haguro, on fire CA Kumano DD Akitsuki, on fire DD Wakazuki, on fire DD Nowaki, on fire, heavy damage DD Asagumo Allied Ships PT PT-24 PT PT-25 PT PT-105, Shell hits 2, and is sunk PT PT-323 PT PT-332 PT PT-382 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Saipan at 63,64 Japanese Ships BB Kongo, on fire BB Haruna BB Nagato, on fire BB Yamato, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire *Yamato is hit by a PT boat, ok...but see afterwards BB Musashi, on fire CA Chikuma CA Atago CA Chokai CA Haguro, on fire CA Kumano DD Akitsuki, on fire DD Wakazuki, Shell hits 6, on fire DD Nowaki, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Asagumo Allied Ships PT PT-26 PT PT-42 PT PT-47 PT PT-106 PT PT-496, Shell hits 1, and is sunk PT PT-531 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Saipan at 63,64 Japanese Ships *four ships on fire***** BB Kongo, on fire BB Haruna BB Nagato, on fire BB Yamato, on fire BB Musashi, on fire CA Chikuma CA Atago CA Chokai CA Haguro, on fire CA Kumano DD Akitsuki, on fire DD Wakazuki, on fire DD Nowaki, on fire, heavy damage DD Asagumo Allied Ships PT PT-27 PT PT-29, Shell hits 15, and is sunk PT PT-79 PT PT-168 PT PT-307 PT PT-312 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Saipan at 63,64 Japanese Ships BB Kongo, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage BB Haruna BB Nagato, on fire BB Yamato, on fire BB Musashi, on fire, heavy damage *suddenly the Musashi now is heavy damaged!!!!!!!!!** CA Chikuma CA Atago CA Chokai CA Haguro, on fire CA Kumano DD Akitsuki, on fire DD Wakazuki, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk DD Nowaki, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage DD Asagumo Allied Ships PT PT-45, Shell hits 1, and is sunk PT PT-64 PT PT-167 PT PT-377 PT PT-532 PT PT-535, Shell hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Saipan at 63,64 Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses E13A1 Jake: 2 destroyed F1M2 Pete: 2 destroyed Japanese Ships BB Kongo, on fire, heavy damage BB Haruna BB Nagato, on fire BB Yamato, on fire BB Musashi, on fire, heavy damage CA Chikuma, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CA Atago CA Chokai CA Haguro, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk CA Kumano DD Akitsuki, on fire DD Nowaki, on fire, heavy damage DD Asagumo Allied Ships PT PT-108 PT PT-124, Shell hits 8, and is sunk PT PT-125, Shell hits 11, and is sunk PT PT-475 PT PT-476 PT PT-546 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Saipan at 63,64 Japanese Ships BB Kongo, on fire, heavy damage BB Haruna BB Nagato, on fire BB Yamato, on fire BB Musashi, on fire, heavy damage CA Chikuma, on fire CA Atago CA Chokai CA Kumano DD Akitsuki, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage DD Nowaki, and is sunk DD Asagumo Allied Ships PT PT-126 PT PT-130 PT PT-308, Shell hits 1, and is sunk PT PT-333 PT PT-381 PT PT-455 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Saipan at 63,64 Japanese Ships BB Kongo, on fire, heavy damage BB Haruna BB Nagato, on fire, heavy damage Now also the Nagato is heavily damaged!!!!, with no reason at all* BB Yamato, on fire BB Musashi, on fire, heavy damage CA Chikuma, on fire CA Atago CA Chokai CA Kumano DD Akitsuki, Shell hits 12, and is sunk DD Asagumo, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships PT PT-133 PT PT-134 PT PT-137 PT PT-343 PT PT-363 PT PT-372 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Saipan at 63,64 Japanese Ships BB Kongo, on fire, heavy damage BB Haruna BB Nagato, on fire, heavy damage BB Yamato, on fire BB Musashi, on fire, heavy damage CA Chikuma, on fire CA Atago CA Chokai CA Kumano DD Asagumo, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships PT PT-138 PT PT-163 PT PT-306 PT PT-474 PT PT-478 PT PT-534 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Saipan at 63,64 Japanese Ships BB Kongo, on fire, heavy damage BB Haruna BB Nagato, on fire, heavy damage BB Yamato, on fire BB Musashi, on fire, heavy damage CA Chikuma, on fire CA Atago CA Chokai CA Kumano DD Asagumo, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships PT PT-170 PT PT-361 PT PT-497 PT PT-522 PT PT-523, Shell hits 9, and is sunk PT PT-550 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Saipan at 63,64 Japanese Ships BB Kongo, on fire, heavy damage BB Haruna BB Nagato, on fire, heavy damage BB Yamato, on fire BB Musashi, on fire, heavy damage CA Chikuma, on fire CA Atago CA Chokai CA Kumano DD Asagumo, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships PT PT-236 PT PT-248 PT PT-249 PT PT-250 PT PT-321, Shell hits 1, and is sunk PT PT-549 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Saipan at 63,64 Japanese Ships BB Kongo, on fire, heavy damage BB Haruna BB Nagato, on fire, heavy damage BB Yamato, on fire, heavy damage The Yamato also joins the party of the heavy damage....only due to a PT torpedo* BB Musashi, on fire, heavy damage CA Chikuma, on fire CA Atago CA Chokai CA Kumano DD Asagumo, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships PT PT-261 PT PT-262 PT PT-324 PT PT-462 PT PT-540 PT PT-547 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Saipan at 63,64 Japanese Ships BB Kongo, on fire, heavy damage BB Haruna BB Nagato, on fire, heavy damage BB Yamato, on fire, heavy damage BB Musashi, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage CA Chikuma, on fire CA Atago CA Chokai CA Kumano DD Asagumo, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships PT PT-263 PT PT-362 PT PT-469 PT PT-480 PT PT-539 PT PT-545 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Saipan at 63,64 Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses F1M2 Pete: 7 destroyed Japanese Ships BB Kongo, and is sunk ***Glup, Glup, Glup******** BB Haruna BB Nagato, on fire, heavy damage BB Yamato, on fire, heavy damage BB Musashi, on fire, heavy damage CA Chikuma, on fire CA Atago CA Chokai CA Kumano DD Asagumo, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk Allied Ships PT PT-264 PT PT-300 PT PT-305 PT PT-334 PT PT-375 PT PT-543 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Saipan at 63,64 Japanese Ships BB Haruna BB Nagato, on fire, heavy damage BB Yamato, on fire, heavy damage BB Musashi, on fire, heavy damage CA Chikuma, on fire CA Atago CA Chokai CA Kumano Allied Ships PT PT-311 PT PT-314 PT PT-315 PT PT-383 PT PT-525 PT PT-544 Yes, and every heavy damaged ship is truly heavy daamged, with sys and float damage up to 70 and at least 20 to 30 fires!!. 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Mr.Frag -> RE: Japanese ships auto damage (2/20/2005 2:17:56 AM)
16 x 6 PT boats ... You felt the need to eat 384 torpedoes? Thats equal to 25 CV's worth of TBD's ... would you see a problem if you sailed in range of them?

toraq -> RE: Japanese ships auto damage (2/20/2005 2:28:22 PM)
That´s not the point, the point is that my ships increased the damage with no reason! , so that the BB Yamato is going to sink due to a single PT torpedo!

Mr.Frag -> RE: Japanese ships auto damage (2/20/2005 7:39:53 PM)
Fire/Flood damage grows ... Japan's damage control is not too great. Need to see what you were actually fighting as Saipan does not belong to the US in this scenario at the start yet you were obviously getting creamed by automatic computer generated PT boats. Since they start at Eniwetok, you are telling a little bit of a long story and expecting people to guess at the rest. [;)]

toraq -> RE: Japanese ships auto damage (2/20/2005 10:20:49 PM)
quote: Fire/Flood damage grows ... Japan's damage control is not too great. Yes I know, but it seems that is "too much damage grows". As I said Yamato was only torpedoed by a single PT torpedo (no magazine explosion) and its damage goes from 60 to 80 (sys and float) and fires are more than 20. quote: Need to see what you were actually fighting as Saipan does I sent the Jap. BBs to Saipan to see a big surface combat. I met some enemy BB but the engagement resulted in a draw. Only three of my ships on fire. After that, they met a whole army of unspotted PTs and that was the result. [&:] Saipan was american then, the AI had conquered it some weeks ago. I repeat the turn again and every damaged BB again increases its damage with no reason (apparently) Thanks

Gem35 -> RE: Japanese ships auto damage (2/20/2005 10:29:34 PM)
Not to be too much of a smart-*** but I sure wish the KB had that problem in my game agaisnt the hated Jap AI. My forts and libbys from PM shoved 31 500 pounders into Ryujo and Shokaku without any sunk.

Mr.Frag -> RE: Japanese ships auto damage (2/20/2005 11:06:32 PM)
Floatation damage causes system damage. Fire damage causes system damage. Both take time to repair and system damage continues to increase until both are repaired. Why don't you send the save so I don't have to guess what detail you are leaving out? [:D]

Yamato hugger -> RE: Japanese ships auto damage (2/22/2005 6:28:22 AM)
What you dont seem to be grasping here, Mister Fragg, is that this all happened in 1 night. The Yamato took 1 total torpeedo and 3 shell hits from a PT boat (so thats what? 3 40mm hits?) early on, and because the system damage is re-assessed after every combat, in this one particular case, there was 12 combats after that hit the Yamato (and other ships) took system damage based on 30+ days at sea in the course of 12 hours (assuming fire/flotation damage is adjusted 1 time per day). So from 3 40mm and 1 PT torp she burned to the waterline in less than 12 hours? I DONT THINK SO (hug the Yamato). System damage should not be re-assessed after every combat. Should be once per day IMHO. I believe it is currently once per phase, and as this example illistrates even that is too much.

BlackVoid -> RE: Japanese ships auto damage (2/25/2005 12:07:17 AM)
Looks like bug + exploit (although your opponent may be innocent on this...)

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