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Cap Mandrake -> RE: Why we fight (4/2/2006 10:00:35 PM)

Hehe..just realized I misspelled "bearer". Perhaps that's how I got stuck iwth ABDA [:)]

P.S....does "misspelled" have one "s" or two?

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Cap Mandrake -> RE: Why we fight (4/2/2006 10:47:41 PM)

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Cap Mandrake -> RE: Why we fight (4/2/2006 11:19:22 PM)

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rtrapasso -> RE: And the parrotfish are huge! (4/2/2006 11:31:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

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Sir;

This odd document was found in the breast pocket of a drowned Japanese Minesweeper Captain, whose vessel sank in shallow water about 2 mi E of Pasuruan, South Java.

Maj. R. Dundee
1st Rajpur Rifles


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But the question remains: How does M&M Enterprises benefit from this???


My question has been answered!! Effing brilliant!!!![8D][:D][:D]



Cap Mandrake -> Religion Interruptis (4/4/2006 9:49:45 PM)

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Cap Mandrake -> Roe, roe, roe your boat (4/4/2006 10:06:48 PM)

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Alikchi2 -> RE: Roe, roe, roe your boat (4/6/2006 1:20:19 AM)

"Stoic-in-Chief"... [:D]



Cap Mandrake -> RE: Why we fight (4/6/2006 5:28:22 AM)

For the first time in 5 nights, there is no combat between major combatant vessels near Soerabaja. The Royal Navy scrapes together 4 damaged ships to harrass the Japanese vessels landing Southeast of Soerabaja, which they do quite efectively. The Yamato and other Japanese BB's are sure to come back for a visit, so it is crucial to get some major surface muscle into Soerabja.

An interesting game of cat and mouse developes with the Jap carriers.

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Cap Mandrake -> The hairs on your arms will stand up.. (4/7/2006 5:10:45 AM)

at the terror of each sip
...and each sup



The US Battleships arrive in Surabaja. by way of Batavia, the Night of the 10th. The USN and RN control the sea around the beacheads. Now unladen, most of the Japanes merchant vessels make their way East, as they emerge from the protective air umbrella, the salughter begins.



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Alikchi2 -> RE: The hairs on your arms will stand up.. (4/7/2006 5:24:26 AM)

[:D][:D]

The waters off Soerabaja are going to be the best diving spots in the world..



rtrapasso -> RE: The hairs on your arms will stand up.. (4/7/2006 5:56:45 AM)

Milo is going to make a fortune off this![:'(][:D]



Alikchi2 -> RE: The hairs on your arms will stand up.. (4/7/2006 6:11:28 AM)

"Will you partake of that last offered cup?"

Knew I'd heard it before somewhere.



Cap Mandrake -> RE: The hairs on your arms will stand up.. (4/7/2006 6:23:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Alikchi

"Will you partake of that last offered cup?"

Knew I'd heard it before somewhere.


Or disappear into the potter's ground....[;)]




Cap Mandrake -> And I looked and behold: a pale horse (4/7/2006 7:51:58 PM)

And his name, that sat on him, was Death. And Hell followed with him.


The USN and RN rule the waters around Surabaja. But for how long? [:)]


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wobbly -> RE: And I looked and behold: a pale horse (4/8/2006 1:11:26 PM)

I was going to ask how you managed to make the bombers hit the transports when the flypaper carriers were about, sounds like the are still attracting their share of your valuable airpower though. You are doing fantastically well - I have never managed to dish out this much damage to the Japs this early!



Cap Mandrake -> RE: And I looked and behold: a pale horse (4/8/2006 6:21:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: wobbly

I was going to ask how you managed to make the bombers hit the transports when the flypaper carriers were about, sounds like the are still attracting their share of your valuable airpower though. You are doing fantastically well - I have never managed to dish out this much damage to the Japs this early!


Right. I think the short answer is the bombers have to be at a base with NO (or very short range) fighters. It seems the AI gives up the idea of attacking the carriers if there is no escort
(with the possible exception of B-17's and 24's)

Ironically, the fighter CAP needs over Soerabaja have consumed almost all the modern fighters in the DEI. Because the air support personnel at Soerabaja were limited, and because Soerabaja was subject to naval bombardment, I started basing the bombers at Bali and Madioen. On the run in, when they were moving together with the carriers, there were no attacks. Even while unloading in Soerabaja, there were almost no air attacks on the transports because they had a sizable CAP over the transports. It is chiefly when they began retreating (with many damaged vessels in smaller groups and no hope of covering everything with CAP) that the attacks began to take hold.




Cap Mandrake -> And Hell followed with him (4/9/2006 6:27:00 PM)

A strategy to divide surface forces into small TF's to inflict more damage has mixed results on this night. Evidently, the Yamato group was ordered to bombard the airfield. In the ensuing furball, it doesn't happen. Utoh....

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Cap Mandrake -> The Giant takes a couple of kidney punches (4/10/2006 4:41:40 AM)

This is still the same battle. [:)] Yamato and her little friends head East, swatting at the mosquitos, which are beginning to raise a few welts.

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Feinder -> RE: The Giant takes a couple of kidney punches (4/10/2006 4:34:32 PM)

I do so love this AAR.

-F-



Cap Mandrake -> RE: The Giant takes a couple of kidney punches (4/10/2006 6:10:24 PM)

Thx. Feinder.

Yamato has 2 more surface groups to defeat to effect her escape. She also needs to get about 250 miles (Beaufort range with torpedoes) away from Soerabaja before the search planes inevitably find her after daybreak.

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rtrapasso -> RE: The Giant takes a couple of kidney punches (4/10/2006 7:43:07 PM)

Mississippi shrugged off hits from 18" rounds? Yikes - maybe the IJN ran out of AP and switched to HE instead.[X(]



Terminus -> RE: The Giant takes a couple of kidney punches (4/10/2006 9:07:38 PM)

Well, if they impacted at range, on the turrets or the citadel, it's not totally unfeasible...



niceguy2005 -> RE: The Giant takes a couple of kidney punches (4/10/2006 9:29:06 PM)

Impressive naval battle. [&o]



niceguy2005 -> RE: The Giant takes a couple of kidney punches (4/10/2006 9:29:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

Impressive naval battle. [&o]

Also, I love the maps. Simply fantastic.



rtrapasso -> RE: The Giant takes a couple of kidney punches (4/10/2006 10:18:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Well, if they impacted at range, on the turrets or the citadel, it's not totally unfeasible...


Well, since it's a night battle (as Capt. Mandrake stated, they need to get out of range of the Beauforts before daylight), i can't see them fighting at more than about 8000 yards, and i would expect that an 18" round would have defeated anything on an old boat like the Mississippi at that range (at least in WITP).[X(] i remain rather surprised...



Cap Mandrake -> RE: The Giant takes a couple of kidney punches (4/10/2006 10:20:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Mississippi shrugged off hits from 18" rounds? Yikes - maybe the IJN ran out of AP and switched to HE instead.[X(]


Right, I was going to write into the story that the Yamato had expended her AP rounds and had switched to HC rounds for shore bombardment....but then I found a source which suggested Yamato didn't have any HC rounds for her 18.1 in guns. [sm=sad-1361.gif]

As it is, Mississippi is going to be in drydock for a while.



Cap Mandrake -> RE: The Giant takes a couple of kidney punches (4/10/2006 10:28:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Well, if they impacted at range, on the turrets or the citadel, it's not totally unfeasible...


Well, since it's a night battle (as Capt. Mandrake stated, they need to get out of range of the Beauforts before daylight), i can't see them fighting at more than about 8000 yards, and i would expect that an 18" round would have defeated anything on an old boat like the Mississippi at that range (at least in WITP).[X(] i remain rather surprised...


Well, this was 1 week ago (in game time), so it is possible I confused it with a Furutaka round, but I do remember being a bit surprised myself. Perhaps it hit a 5 inch battery sticking up somewhere and carried it away to land somwhere near the Kittyhawk Resort on Bali. It will make a nice fairway hazard.

I could look at the replay again...but I think I wold have to take a week off work [:)]



Feinder -> RE: The Giant takes a couple of kidney punches (4/10/2006 11:07:01 PM)

I frequently see large caliber rounds -not- penetrate at range (usually a daylight attack). At ranges > 14,000 yds, you're talking about plunging fire vs. (thinner) deck armor. I've always thought the daylight routines were a little wonky. But if you say this was a night action, I couldn't explain it.

-F-



Cap Mandrake -> Thar she be (4/10/2006 11:21:21 PM)

The white whale!



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Cap Mandrake -> Enough already (4/11/2006 2:15:10 AM)

Overanxious recon pilot? More BB's headed Surabaya?

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