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Nomad -> Nomad pinch hits against PzB (6/25/2005 2:05:20 AM)

Well, I have had time to look at the turn and do a few things and look about a lot. No comments on how David left it since I do not have a complete understanding of what he was doing or how he got it.

I have played a lot of UV against PzB and I know him for an execellent player. He is very good at understanding his units and their strengths and weaknesses. I will have to play good to keep him from winning( note that I never beat him in UV [:@] )

The first couple of turns or so I do not expect to do much. I will be doing my own reorganizing and realigning. Plus it is hard to take over a game like this and be able to understand everything about the situation. I will look back over Davids last few AAR posts and see what his overall plan was. At least I do not have to worry about India [:(] And China and burma don't look to healthy either. That prety much leaves Central, South, and Southwest Pacific. I believe that major efforts will have to wait until june or july 1943, I need some F4Us and Essex CVs. [:D]

If anyone wants to try to interpret what David was doing, jump in. [&o]



Captain Cruft -> RE: Nomad pinch hits against PzB (6/25/2005 3:16:56 AM)

Good luck :)



33Vyper -> RE: Nomad pinch hits against PzB (6/25/2005 4:08:08 AM)

another victim.......ummm I mean good luck [;)]



Nomad -> RE: Nomad pinch hits against PzB (6/25/2005 4:11:48 AM)

I'm going to need lots of luck. I told PzB that I would like to ignore any auto-victory until after then of March 1943. That will give me almost 2 months to reorganize things the way I want them. [:)]



Bliztk -> RE: Nomad pinch hits against PzB (6/25/2005 1:01:11 PM)

Well, you are 1 month away from Victory Weapon nš2 F4U Corsair. You can upgrade 1 VMF each 5 days. They eat Bettys at breakfast and Zeros at lunch. [8|]

Look at the map and mark what are your best VMF, so you can upgrade the best pilots to the best plane.

You are in a similar situation as the Allies before Watchtower.
I would pick one spot in the map, and attack it enforce.

You must seize the iniciative, at least temporarily, to blunt the Japanese edge.

If you wait until PzB picks his spot and comes enmasse, you are toasted. [:-]

I also willl send subs to pick survivors from Java, and rebuild those cadres. In late-43 you are going to have a shortage of assault points with all those divs gone.

And the most important thing, maintain the spirit up [&o][&o][&o]



Rob Brennan UK -> RE: Nomad pinch hits against PzB (6/25/2005 4:56:53 PM)

I agree completely , evac what you can from Jave , you wont regret it and now with 1.6 its not auto-kill subs any more , hooray

As for your ferrous gonads ! wow

Good luck and mostly enjoy the game, its a great read, and has been since the start. Congrats on contining to post AAR's



Nomad -> RE: Nomad pinch hits against PzB (6/25/2005 4:59:07 PM)

Right now we are having some problems with applying the patch and getting ourselves synced. I think we are about there and we can really start going.

/edit There are NO units in Java to evacuate. [:(] 8 days to Essex arrival. I can then set up TFs with 5 total CVs( one a Brit so don't get too excited). I am short on repaired CAs, and CLs for escorts( probably DDs also ). I seem to be short on supply and fuel everywhere. Not critically short, but not enough to sustain any large attack efforts. Really looks like history sets it big foot down and I will attack in the Solomons and NG. [:D] I can cover those with Land Based fighters. And we all know what happens when those nice F4U cosairs arrive.

Japanese aircraft[sm=00000106.gif] [:D] Gotta love it. ( we really need a smiley of a A6Mx going down in flames )



33Vyper -> RE: Nomad pinch hits against PzB (6/25/2005 11:24:48 PM)

I say retreat.....I know this won't be a popular idea but it worked for the Russians.

I dont believe you have anything that you can throw at the Japanese right now that will work. I say build up what is left in the central and southern pacific. Reform all your supply traffic. I think the lack of supply is telling. You should have sufficient AKs and TKs left to set up some regular supply convoys. Build up your rear and then strike. You have a choice...you can go the central route or the southern route. Due to your lack of CVs right now I would think coming up from the south is your best bet. You can get some land based air cover going. You need to have the Corsairs and the Hellcats built up and in sufficient numbers before starting to engage the Japs. They are well dug in and not hurting like you are. This may take you a few months to get this all set up....will make for some boring play....but you should be able to turn the tide on this one...it will just take time. Remember the Japanese can never win in the long run.



EUBanana -> RE: Nomad pinch hits against PzB (6/26/2005 12:31:00 AM)

Player #3 to be chewed up by Pzb. [;)]

Nah. Your at the point now where the Allied military units become superior to the Japs. Should be the end of Pzb's halo in the next month or two.



Nomad -> RE: Nomad pinch hits against PzB (6/26/2005 4:39:41 AM)

Hmmm, retreat is not really an option. But, I will be doing some small scale attacks in the Solomons and on NG. That is while I wait for those Corsairs and Hellcats. The biggest problem right now is getting the game upgraded to 1.6. We have done about 6 turns and I think we have regressed one day in total. [:@]

For those of you still watching here is the outline of my plan.

Central Pacific: Maintain some long range bombing while building Mili to level 4 airfield and use medium bombers to keep PzB honest in this area.

South Pacific: Continue to build the bases I have here and base the shorter range F4F-4 and use SBDs and Medium Bombers to protect and prepare the next Island( not sure which one yet )

NG: David had an attack going in to Buna and I am letting it continue. If I take Buna then NG gets most of the B-17s and B-24s to provide bombing everywhere, with Rabaul being a prime target.

And of course supply and fuel convoys go everywhere. It takes a lot of time to build up stockpiles.

The idea is to hold in the Central Pacific, maintain pressure in the Solomons and to threaten and/or execute a rapid advance up the northern shore of NG. I have to isolate Rabaul and bomb it out before that can happen. I want to force PzB to have to defend against me going to Palau and then SRA and/or PI.

Thanks guys.



Tom Hunter -> RE: Nomad pinch hits against PzB (6/26/2005 5:39:27 AM)

I am probably the most strident advocate of in your face fighting against the Japanese starting from Decemeber 7 1941.

But I would still think about pulling in behind a strong defensive line and launching a strong blow later when your more ready.

I must say that ADavidB's post lead me to believe that he had put more effort into supply then wobbly had, but it sounds like you would disagree.

First what is "low" supply in your thinking?

For comparison I seldom go much above 100k supply at frontline bases early in the war (and I have never gotten past Sept 1942) but there is always a train of small convoys on the way with more.

Sounds like you need to organize your logistics, and also you need to put together a force that can win, and you don't have one right now. My usual approach is to attrit the Japanese on 6 fronts, China, India, SW PAC, S PAC, Cent PAC and submarines knowing that one of them will get weak pretty soon. You only have 4, and 3 of them are close together so he can use his central postion against you. So you need a hammer, like the 12 pound sledge on a 3' handle that I use to split logs for exercise.



Nomad -> RE: Nomad pinch hits against PzB (6/26/2005 6:12:33 AM)

Like I said, the supply situation is not critical, and I am not in any danger of having any bases out of supply. But, there are a limited number of TFs in the pipeline and no large supply dump in Australia. Most bases have something like 40,000 to 70,000 supply with smaller amounts of fuel. I like to stock either Sydney or Brisbane with 500,000+ supply and fuel before going off on large scale attacks. Since I never saw how Wobbly left the supply situation I can not completly comment on how David left it for me. Everyone has there own way of seeing things.

It will be a while before I can launch large scale operations in the Central Pacific. In real life the USN launched the Tarawa invasion in 11/43 so in that area the allies are ahead of schedule. I can continue to hold and do small island hopping in the Solomons. Again, in real life in 1/43 the US was still fighting Japan on Guadalcanal. David had an invasion of Buna in progress and I am hopeful I can continue that and take Buna. That should allow me to start a bombing campaign in that area. Again though, I need many more and better aircraft and I need to find a way to get the experience up. PzB is killing too many of my aircraft right now. This is something I will be looking at closely in the next turn or so. It may be time for some creative training.

Tom, your idea of having more fronts to attrit is what is driving me to launch attacks on Northern NG. The capture of Sorong and other bases in the area will give me places to start a possible drive into the Celebes area. That would expand the war in my favor. I could then support moving large amounts of supply and fuel into Darwin and launching into the DEI area. That would be interesting if I can find a way to do it before the end of 1943. It at least threatens attacks that would cut off oil production areas and PzB would be forced to fight hard there and by early 1944 I would have the CV power to continue assualts in the Central Pacific.

Death to PzB. [:D]



aztez -> RE: Nomad pinch hits against PzB (6/27/2005 11:47:50 AM)

Good luck! [:)] ..You are going to need it but the war is not lost and hopefully we can see allies becoming victorious.



Nomad -> RE: Nomad pinch hits against PzB (6/28/2005 6:40:58 AM)

Still no word from Mike Woods and/or Nik. I hate waiting almost as much as replaying multiple turns. [:(]



Tom Hunter -> RE: Nomad pinch hits against PzB (6/28/2005 11:52:00 PM)

I think every 4 star poster on the forum should play this game against PzB for 2 months.

Just a thought.

[:D]



madflava13 -> RE: Nomad pinch hits against PzB (6/29/2005 3:20:26 AM)

I want in... [:)]



GordoNZ -> Huge Advantage (6/29/2005 3:39:43 AM)

Nomad

You do have a huge advantage now as you would have read PZB's AAR thread. So you know what he plans and where his forces are.[;)]



Nomad -> RE: Huge Advantage (6/29/2005 4:22:30 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: GordoNZ

Nomad

You do have a huge advantage now as you would have read PZB's AAR thread. So you know what he plans and where his forces are.[;)]


Well, I wouldn't cheat anyone and certainly not PzB, we have a pretty long history back to UV. If I can't win fair and square, I will lose with aplomb. [:)] I have read some of his thread but not that much and none since I took over. I was always more interested in how David viewed things and how he felt he could wrest victory from the jaws of defeat. I really don't care that much about winning or losing, I just want to have fun, besides it is a win-win situation for me. If I lose I can always point to the starting position. If I win I can claim to be a great player. [:D]

Sorry guys, unless I fall dead, I will be the last allied player in this game. [:-][8D]



Nomad -> RE: Huge Advantage (7/9/2005 11:16:30 PM)

Just a bump on my part before this goes off to the third page. [:(] We are still waiting for some kind of solution to PzBs missing/AWOL units.



Nomad -> RE: Huge Advantage (7/12/2005 5:33:28 AM)

Ok, a decision has been made. John sent me the 1/3/43 turn which is a 1.5 turn for sure. I have a 1.5 installation just for Johns game [:)] I did that turn and in a day or two John should be returning it. We will see what happens. Still the same as far as I can see. Hold in the Central Pacific( building Mili up to max to provide a good medium bomber and fighter base ). Advance in the Solomons and NG. I will be trying to advance up the Northern coast of NG to try to provide a threat aimed at either the SRA or the PI. Supply convoys have been set up from the West Coast to main distribution centers behind the front. I need to find some APs to provide troop movement shipping. LSTs and such should be showing up soon along with F4Us. I look around and feel short on everything, so a bit of waiting is at hand. No major attacks on large bases are planned, mostly surrounding attacks and build ups are planned for the first months. I will have more detail in a few turns or so, it takes a while to get a good understanding of where, what , and when.



Nomad -> RE: Huge Advantage (7/17/2005 5:35:07 AM)

We have progressed two more turns and things look to be working right so far.

The 6th Aus Inf Div is landing at Buna and I think they can secure it. This was an operation
that David had going so I let it go. I am moving sizeable forces to the Solomon Islands and
NG area. I have two BB TFs and all of my CV/CVEs going there. I also have two divisions
and two raider bat. on the way along with some seabees and base forces. It appears that
there are at least 4 undeveloped and undefended bases around Shortlands Island. I will
take one of them and build it up to an AF of 5. That should allow me to put Corsairs and B-25s
in normal range of Raboul. Buna will be the last NG base I take for a while, I need to build it
and Dobadura up for now. I will also take Woodlark Island ( it's undefended ) and see about
building it up if necessary.

I'll try for some pictures next turn. [:)]



Nomad -> RE: Huge Advantage (7/18/2005 5:59:16 AM)

Yeah, the 6th Aus Inf was able to take Buna that turn. However, 3 AKs took some torps form LBA and the North Carolina took one. NC will survive but it will take a while to get her back in shape. Not sure if any of the AKs will survive.

Here is a picture of the South Pacific. I need to build the bases at Buna, Dobdura, Goodenough Island, Kirawina Island, Vela Lavella, and Munda( whew ). I intend to take Buin and Woodlark Island in the near future. Buin will get me a buildable fighter base to help cover the taking of Buka and Green Island. Those two bases will give me bases within normal range of Rabaul using Corsairs when I get them next month. I should be able to pound Rabaul into the stone age that way and then either take Lae or bypass it and go further up the coast. I need to see what happens in the near future.

One thing that does bother me is that PzB is training a HUGE amount of pilots in China. There is nothing I can do about it, but it will make my job harder.

[image]local://upfiles/4176/20B86A6D243345F7B24553D2E205ED6F.gif[/image]

I am short on about everthing right now, but things are in the pipeline. In 5 days I get 9 SeaBee units and a Base Force. I know just where those Sea Bees will be going. I have a lot of building projects to get done in the next few months in the Solomon Isalnds. [:)]

The Essex is due out in 5 days also with escorts and two CVEs with replacement type squadrons. I have 3 USN CVs in the South Pacific, one Brit CV, and 3 CVEs with combat airunits on them. Not enough to go toe toe with PzB if he brings all he has, but enough to keep him from making any big raids as long as I stay well within my own LBA range.

I do not expect Central Pacific operations to begin again until the end of August 1943. By that time I should be able to gather 6 USN CVs and 7 CVL all or most with F6Fs. I should be able to extend my boundries somewhat at that time. With a little luck, my South Pacific attacks will be threating him enough he will have to split his resources.



Nomad -> RE: Huge Advantage (7/21/2005 12:49:53 AM)

A few more turns go by. No new advances for me. PzB did send some CVs in and hit a couple of ships. The California was hit hard but should survive, but it will be 1944 before she is repaired. [:@]

I have received teh 9 new SeaBee units and right now 6 of them are in route to Nouema for deployement to an island in the Solomons. Not sure which one they will be going to. I have moved a marine raider unit to Lunga and a couple of Base Forces. I will be using FT to take Buka and to start building the base. I need to be able to mount a good bombing campaign against Raboul.



Nomad -> RE: Huge Advantage (7/23/2005 6:15:25 AM)

A few more turn have gone by. No real combat news yet. I moved the Americal Division to Lunga from Tarawa and split it. I am moving the regiments to Vela Lavella, Munda, and Russel Islands. That will bolster the defense of those, they had all most nothing there. [:(] I dragged up 4 Base Forces and put them at Munda, it can now handle all the aircraft I put there. It is a 3 airfield now but is building to a 5.

I am taking the 7th Aus division to Gili Gili and am moving the independant regiment at Gili Gili to Kirwina Island. I have APs putting into Nouema in two turns and they will pick up a NZ division and take it up to NG to be split and used at Dobadura, Goodenough Island and at least one other location. Buna has the 6th Aus Division there so it is fine.

I was surprised at how little there was in LCUs in the area. Looks like Dave sent a lot to Central Pacific to take some Islands there. I have the 25th USA division at Pearl Harbor waiting for tranport to the South Pacific. Probably start its movement in a week or so.

Scrounged up 48 torp carring Beuforts and put them at Gili Gili. Moved some P-40s and F4Fs into the area from Central Pacific. Found 6 squadrons of Kittyhawk 1s in Canada that were all ready assigned to SWPAC. Put them on AKS and I am moving them to Australia for assignment to NG. I am going to strip most of the aircraft from Pearl Harbour and move them to forward bases.

Essex and escorts are on the way to the South Pacific and they are escorting a transport TF carring 6 Seabee units. They will find a lot of work to do in the solomons and on NG. [:)]



Nomad -> Some action? Maybe (8/20/2005 6:37:59 AM)

I have not kept up this AAr since there wasn't much action at all. Now it looks like something might be up:


[image]local://upfiles/4176/738FF2D89B7E4B589C9C973B1CABBBCA.jpg[/image]

I am not completly sure about where those TF might be moving to. Thursday Island has a size 3 airfield and
I put some P-38s and SBDs in there. I might be able to hit some ships. I have two BB/CA forces in the area,
one at PM and one off the coast by Cairns. I also have a 3 CVE TF with F4Fs and TBFs. We might have the battle
of the CVEs. [:D] It remains to be seen just what is coming in. I am moving a regiment of the 7th Austrailan Inf Div and two Base Forces to thursday Island, mostly by air and then lastly fast transport.

I can not believe that he would try to take PM at this time from that direction. But PzB is cagey and he might
do most anything. I consider Thursday Island to be the likely target. I would think he would need more than
some CVEs covering to go as far as PM. He knows that I have a number of Bombers in range of PM and would
surely pummel any invasion fleet. The other base down there has a level 1 port and airfield, not much to risk
CVEs for. Up to last turn there was only a construction Engineer unit at Thursday Island so John might think he
can slip in. I hope so, I would like to give him a bloody nose( mostly he gives them to me [:(] )

I still have Mili, Tarawa, Makin, Nauru, Baker Island. I feel that they are in more danger. I only have 2 good
CVs( Hornet and Saratoga) and then Wasp and Formitable. I am sure that John can mass up 6 - 8 CVs and some
CVLs so I am not able to go head to head with him. Not sure what to do if he makes a concerted effort to
take one of those Islands. I have moved at least 2 brigades to each island and I am trying to get another
division to the area. Things move so slowly with one day turns. But I love it still.



Nomad -> RE: Some action? Maybe (8/22/2005 3:11:59 AM)

Well, I have seen the invasion fleet:

I can see some CVs, APs, and CAs. I think I saw 5 fleets, looked to be two CV fleets,
A SC fleet, a MSW fleet, and a tranport fleet. There could be more. There may be some
elements in other hexes that I did not spot that time. I hope I have enough around to
do some damage, I have 4 regiments on NI plus a CD and 2 base forces. I also have
4 SeaBee units to help keep the runways open [:D] That may be a shock. I have
3x6 PT boat squadrons available. I also have my pitiful 3 CV fleet hanging out SE of NI,
hoping to hit some transports. I also have about 1/2 a million mines there. [:)][8D] Of
course I have some Corsairs, SBDs, TBFs, Beufort V-IXs there. I am hopeful that I can
get a torp hit or two on a BB or CV. [:'(] That will make my day. I also have 160+ B-17/B-24s
available at Tarawa, that will put them well within normal range, I really want them to hit the
transports, there is also 48 P-38s there to escort them.


[image]local://upfiles/4176/6977BED9314D42709F3AFFD09ED96AFD.jpg[/image]

When I took over this game, I saw that these islands, Nauru, Mili, Makin, Tarawa, and Apamama
would be the biggest problem. There was a reason that the USN did not invade Tarawa until
November 1943, CVs. You need a lot of CVs to protect everything out there. The Japanese have
a number of large airbases and the long range aircraft to use them. I am short on CVs, CVLs, and
CVEs( with combat aircraft units). In the last 6 game weeks I have moved 3 divisions plus a number
of support units to that area. There is hardly anything left in PH [X(]. There is not a lot in either Makin,
Apamama, or Baker Island either, I stripped those to one regiment, one base force each. So Mili and
Nauru ended up with 4 regiments, and Tarawa has two left with 3 on the way( the first will be there in
4 days, then 10 days, and about 20 days).

This will be a large battle and will probaly go a long way to seeing if I can get the score back under
3:1 for the Japanese. I need to do that before the end of the year. I think I can do it in the last
6 months of 1943 but I will have to hold out here. [8|]

I hope that now that things are happening someone will post something( even 'why did you do that, idiot' ) [;)]



Nomad -> RE: Some action? Maybe (8/22/2005 6:03:31 AM)

No pictures this turn. His invasion fleet moved closer, I had some A-20s try to attack, against about 150 CAP?[&:] Not once but 3 times. [:(][&:][:@] They all got wiped out. [X(][:-] He sent one of his CV TFs a bit south of the direct lind and caught a transport Tf trying to flee the area and evaporated it. There is nothing left of 6 AKs and a TK along with the fuel and 2 SeaBee units. Damn. I am waiting for the next turn, I hope it is interesting. I send my own CV TF at full speed 10 hexes to the East, don't need to lose them. We will see where he parks his CV TFs. I moved another 24 Corsairs into Nauru Island. Sure glad that I guesses right, becasue Lunga could probably be taken, there is only the 1st Marine Division there now. [:o]



wobbly -> RE: Some action? Maybe (8/22/2005 6:56:55 AM)

Hang in there Nomad. Being the idiot that put you in this position I hope you can prove that SOMEONE can pull the chestnut out of the fire!



Nomad -> RE: Nomad pinch hits against PzB (8/22/2005 3:43:12 PM)

Hi Wobbly. Here is the status screen from last turn:

As you can see, things are still somewhat grim. [8D] John is a tough opponent.
I am trying hard to keep that VP ratio below 4:1, right now I am about 3500 points
away from it. I still have a long way to go but I am hopeful that I can come out ahead
in the exchange we are going to have around Nauru. At least I think he will go there,
but with John you never really know.

[image]local://upfiles/4176/7F216009B3004190AB231912295E7D54.jpg[/image]



Tom Hunter -> RE: Nomad pinch hits against PzB (8/22/2005 5:03:04 PM)

Boy, that is an ugly picture.

Are all your bases in supply? If not you should supply them so that you get the VP for them. It could be the difference between 3.99 to 1 and 4 to 1.

Good luck



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