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Sneer -> RE: P-38 (7/6/2006 3:28:19 PM)
8 months for 100 =800 lost 570 230 remains :-) don't know if 144 reinforcements goes from pool but probably yes so if there are 5 groups they are below nominal strenght [:D]

Raverdave -> RE: P-38 (7/6/2006 3:30:56 PM)
P-38s are not the backbone of my fighter strength. And as we have seen there are not the Jap killers that they once were in UV. Much better things are in the works.

Sneer -> RE: P-38 (7/6/2006 3:33:35 PM)
yes i saw p-47 today and i think I don't want to see it numbers over my airfields P-38 are not killers but until p-51 which comes late there is nothing you can send for escort duties i don't remember p-47 range but i think they can be used too

pauk -> RE: P-38 (7/6/2006 3:35:52 PM)
oh, you are already in June... you've corrected me, Sneer... Japanese planes comes from the pool, so Allied planes should arrives too.. Anyway, still 3 months from J model... EDIT: P-47 - max range 6 i think....

Sneer -> RE: P-38 (7/6/2006 3:50:23 PM)
yup - quite a lot of turns today 06/07/43 i think 2-3 turns will be made today and short break till monday - i need to go to my parents and i'm offline there lots of small convoy moving toward north OZ light forces are in numbers i think Raverdave will try to contest my weakest bases within next 6 months it will be puerly land/air campaign this area is too small to operate bigger vessels Salomons will be bypassed - at least good chance as Raver is late on schedule here- but to this Raver must go for western PNG in strenght and try to retake PM Wake/marcus is still an option for Raverdave autumn 43 is historical date for gilberts i don't expect him to go for Timor within next 3-4 months and certainly no further north - i will get quite a lot of reinforcements there + already garrisoned troops as direct assault on Marshalls would be interesting massacre and aleutians are too limited and well defended game is more and more clear I think as soon as hellcats will be available in numbers 8-9/43 i will see his invasion fleet till that moment probability is minimal

Sneer -> chungking (7/6/2006 5:08:13 PM)
next assault soon forces deployed HQs : 6 army and 6 others - 2main HQs at changsha INF : 22 inf div 13.5 inf bde ARM : 2 tank div 3 tank rgt ART : 15 regiments ENG : 9combat eng rgt 7 construction units close to 100k supply on hex reserve - within 1 month chungking force will be strenghten by 5 inf div which are currently being deployed from reinforcement listas well as lots 4th fleet and southern area forces

Mike Solli -> RE: P-38 (7/6/2006 8:00:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sneer 8 months for 100 =800 lost 570 230 remains :-) don't know if 144 reinforcements goes from pool but probably yes so if there are 5 groups they are below nominal strenght [:D] Yes, reinforcement aircraft come from the pool.

Sneer -> RE: P-38 (7/6/2006 10:05:42 PM)
good it means few weaks without P-38 maybe evn full month [8D]

Mike Solli -> RE: P-38 (7/6/2006 10:17:29 PM)
Kill Allied aircraft on the ground whenever possible. It doesn't kill their pilots but it does screw up their morale. If you do it often enough, it'll put a crimp in their number of missions flown. If you can cause a shortage of planes in their pool, you'll force them to use obsolete models or attack with smaller numbers of aircraft. With poor morale, they'll run away more frequently and take higher losses. I have no idea what allied aircraft replacements look like, but that's what I'm attempting. I suspect it's a losing battle in the long run.

Sneer -> RE: P-38 (7/6/2006 11:20:46 PM)
wrong direction IMO i can delay his air offensive but against spitfires Vb , p47 and corsairs on cap i have no chance especially range prevents jacks from participating Raverdave have hundreds of them so not even slightest chance to empty allied pools in mid 43 i could try it with 55-60 exp new pilot but not with these green 20-30 i don't have really heavy bomber i don't have good escort fighter a6m3a is not a match to defenders i fear all i can do is to make this knife blunt as long as i can - sorry but not in this war in 3 months his p-38 reinforcements will double (J version) and it will be beginning of end - i have no chance to kill200+ p38 per month especially their bases are well befended by short legged ones

Sneer -> RE: P-38 (7/6/2006 11:29:32 PM)
2 or 3 times when my escorting zeros met corsairs losses were 10:1 on allied favour

Mike Solli -> RE: P-38 (7/6/2006 11:32:52 PM)
I see the Allied player gets 225 P-38s a month. That's a lot to kill. I try to sneak a bombardment TF in to coastal bases occasionally. To be honest, the best success I've had was to mass high experience fighters at bases my opponent wants to bomb and hope for the best. I've had great success at Rabaul but my luck ran out at Rangoon when I had 4 complete sentai on 90% CAP and none flew during one raid. I lost 160 Oscars on the ground. [:@] I still haven't recovered from that a month later. [:(]

Sneer -> RE: P-38 (7/6/2006 11:40:05 PM)
biggest 4e bombers can't be dealt with navy - Nortern OZ is to well mutually supporting with islands north of darwin developed into airbases and DD/PT patrols in the harbour India - main forces are at lucknow - too far inland [8\|] no chance - only slow dying and screwing up industry eben more

Mike Solli -> RE: P-38 (7/6/2006 11:42:23 PM)
I think we're talking about many of the same problems the Japanese did during the latter half of the war.

Sneer -> RE: P-38 (7/6/2006 11:47:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mike Solli I think we're talking about many of the same problems the Japanese did during the latter half of the war. No other choice ,this year and next ones are for Raverdave and I will be on the receiving end at this moment i'm mostly worried about uber-cap issue. second worry is i have many designs of planes but only few are really worth building - and no good army fighter till half 44 it doesn't mean that if i notice his mistake i will not kill his toys [:'(]

Mike Solli -> RE: P-38 (7/6/2006 11:48:48 PM)
Yeah, I agree. Do what you can to force him to make mistakes. Conserve your strength until then.

veji1 -> RE: P-38 (7/6/2006 11:59:44 PM)
I guess you can learn a lot from PZBs AAR... You need to finish of Chungking though to strengthen India and Malaya, Java and Sumatra against any seaborne invasion...

Raverdave -> RE: P-38 (7/7/2006 9:29:07 AM)
The invasion will come soon(ish) but it will be from an unexpected quarter .[8D]

Sneer -> RE: P-38 (7/7/2006 9:51:52 AM)
if it is unexpected quarter we will talk when i see your fleet [;)] question what will happen if your high risk operation fails?

Raverdave -> Current situation (7/7/2006 11:11:29 AM)
Here is the current map. [image]local://upfiles/5619/D2EB187E289D4B91B76ADC1A9E802F8B.jpg[/image]

Sneer -> RE: P-38 (7/9/2006 9:07:10 PM)
you gave me petropavlovsk on map - thanks :-) or isd it result of diplomatic arrangements ?

Nemo121 -> RE: P-38 (7/9/2006 9:19:05 PM)
In my AAR I think I've shown that Allied planes appearing in reinforcement squadrons do NOT get drawn from the replacement pool. They are in addition to the replacement pool. The reason I am sure of this is that in several Allied plane categories I have destroyed more planes than the Allies get as of December 7th + replacements.

Sneer -> RE: P-38 (7/9/2006 9:28:59 PM)
hmmm it means 950 planes till that moment -570 shot down = 5 groups filled and nothing in pool - i will live it ... this time :-)

Raverdave -> RE: P-38 (7/10/2006 11:21:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sneer you gave me petropavlovsk on map� - thanks :-) or isd it result of diplomatic arrangements ? Well the map shows what is possible if your didn't have such a yellow streak paint on your back. [;)] (Mental note to self.....sack the cartographer)

Sneer -> RE: P-38 (7/10/2006 11:46:46 AM)
russian fear mighty empire we are back on track folks - i'm i really good disposition after weekend i'm thinking only about offensive movements why the hell we are in 43 - no fun in japanese offensives[;)]

Raverdave -> RE: P-38 (7/10/2006 12:22:58 PM)
Offensive as much as you like. [8D]

Sneer -> RE: P-38 (7/10/2006 4:19:52 PM)
offensive [;)] yes today 6/16/43 imperial naval infantry attacked Merauke with support from naval bombers enemy forces took this base ap 2 weeks ago with forces estimated as half australian 3rd bde today after short resistance they surrendered to imperial forces ! 1600+ soldiers captured

Sneer -> RE: P-38 (7/10/2006 4:34:47 PM)
looking closer to map i see both okha and vladivostock in imperial hands too diplomats enroute to set this agreement and discuss allied participation in Russian campaign a lot of sake for our bravest soldiers

Sneer -> RE: P-38 (7/10/2006 6:09:17 PM)
deleted -missed threads

Sneer -> RE: P-38 (7/10/2006 6:25:17 PM)
deleted - i don't understand what i see here - write in one AAR and find text in mine [8\|] it is too hot maybe that's the reason

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