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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 5:19:13 PM   
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Disheartend penguin tithe......................


What's wrong old boy?

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 5:32:37 PM   
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Post-exam tithe... My Thread, one gets worn out from concentrating really hard for six hours in a row...

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 5:37:23 PM   
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Disheartend penguin tithe......................


What's wrong old boy?

Speedy raided Tokyo Bay with the Death Star......and despite me having 8 Carriers.......and over 50 land based airgroups set to receive him.....I couldn't even scratch the paintwork......alas..........roll on Godzilla........

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 5:44:04 PM   
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This won't help, but don't let it get to you, Brother Penguin... It's just a game...

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 5:48:00 PM   
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This won't help, but don't let it get to you, Brother Penguin... It's just a game...

Dear Thread....only a game......you mean I've been wasting my life.............Thanks for the reminder T......though I do have a stinking cold...and am working 16 hr days/7day weeks untill Dec. 24th........with the Occ. game of witp........(get the violins out).....I hereby apologise for my moan.........Glory to the Thread.......now off to my AAR to have a moan.......

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 5:52:06 PM   
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Post-exam tithe... My Thread, one gets worn out from concentrating really hard for six hours in a row...

Really? What's that like? The rest of us wouldn't know.

Hope it went well.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 6:04:39 PM   
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Post-exam tithe... My Thread, one gets worn out from concentrating really hard for six hours in a row...


6 hours? I can't concentrate for 6 minutes before I lose interest , I think it because...

...nope, lost my concentration there, what was I on about

When do you get your results?

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 6:18:32 PM   
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Post-exam tithe... My Thread, one gets worn out from concentrating really hard for six hours in a row...


6 hours? I can't concentrate for 6 minutes before I lose interest , I think it because...

...nope, lost my concentration there, what was I on about

When do you get your results?


Not sure, but most likely in the last week before Christmas... And things went very well; I'm happy with the paper I turned out.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 8:17:19 PM   
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Daily tithe...

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 8:21:22 PM   
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This won't help, but don't let it get to you, Brother Penguin... It's just a game...

Dear Thread....only a game......you mean I've been wasting my life.............Thanks for the reminder T......though I do have a stinking cold...and am working 16 hr days/7day weeks untill Dec. 24th........with the Occ. game of witp........(get the violins out).....I hereby apologise for my moan.........Glory to the Thread.......now off to my AAR to have a moan.......


Well, ya know, playing Japanese is rather like marrying a girl with a fat mother. You kinda go in with a notion of what is waiting for you down the road.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 8:39:50 PM   
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800 pound gorilla, anyone?

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 9:00:28 PM   
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But if they could see her through my eeeeeeeyes...

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 9:06:32 PM   
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Thank you, Shallow Hal...

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 9:38:27 PM   
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"Daisy, Daisy..." Hang on...that's not the flick...

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 9:46:46 PM   
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Just ordered Bloody Shambles vol. 1, as a sort of early Christmas present for myself...

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 9:48:11 PM   
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Just ordered Bloody Shambles vol. 1, as a sort of early Christmas present for myself...


Yeah, i ordered vol 2 + 3 (iirc) back in April from Amazon - and i am still waiting...

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 9:51:59 PM   
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Damn... Amazon.co.uk claims they expect to have it to me by the middle of next week. We shall see...

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 9:57:11 PM   
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Zoing!(tm)

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 10:20:28 PM   
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Damn... Amazon.co.uk claims they expect to have it to me by the middle of next week. We shall see...


I'm thinking about buying vol.1, and maybe even splashing out for guaranteed delivery before Saturday 1pm.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 10:23:33 PM   
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I think I have Bloody Shambles vol 1 and 2 in a bookcase in the attic.
Certain about 1 but uncertain if the other is 2 or 3........hmmmm

Must take a look in my treasure chest(s) one of these days... 

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 10:34:24 PM   
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Post-exam tithe... My Thread, one gets worn out from concentrating really hard for six hours in a row...


6 hours? I can't concentrate for 6 minutes before I lose interest , I think it because...

...nope, lost my concentration there, what was I on about

When do you get your results?


Not sure, but most likely in the last week before Christmas... And things went very well; I'm happy with the paper I turned out.


I'm sure you mentioned it in the past, but what boards did you sit for?


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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 10:38:27 PM   
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Marketing, economics and business law today, statistics and market communication next week, global communication the week after. The last two are oral...

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/30/2006 10:41:37 PM   
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Good luck! I hope they keep them "oral" and not some other kind. I had a board turn to the "dark" side on me once. It was ugly!


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RE: The Thread!!! - 12/1/2006 12:16:46 AM   
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Teachers in NJ make good money. With her masters and 10 years experience my wife makes nearly the same base pay as I do as a Sgt with 18 years experience. Not bad for only working 10 months a year. She also can easily make $50-60 per hous tutoring.

Of course thanks to my overtime (400hrs+ per year) I still wear the pants in our house. She just tells me which ones to wear.


Don't start with the 10 months a year. The average person works 5 days a week for 50 weeks a year. That totals 250 days. Take out Christmas, 4th of July, Labor Day, and New years and you are down to 246 days per year. A teacher is scheduled to work anywhere from 180 - 200 days per year. (186 in my district). That doesn't include the 5 or 6 days I spend before school starts in my classroom getting it ready. The other 3 days that I spend after school is out getting my room ready for summer. It also doesn't include every Sunday during the 36 weeks of the school year that I spend grading papers. That puts me at 230 days. 16 days difference. (I know some work more but I am saying average)

Then there are the times when I have to wait an hour and a half to go to the bathroom because by law, I cannot leave my classroom unattended by a teacher. Don't point out the 7 hour day either because I do not know a single teacher that gets their work done in the seven hours students are in school. Most of us are there anywhere from 1 to 2 hours additional each day getting the lessons ready for the next day.

Then there is the pay. Show me another job that requires a Master's Degree within the first three years and then only pays $40,000 per year (required in Ohio by No Child Left Behind) The average person with a Master's degree in the business world makes about $60,000. (see http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Degree=Master's_Degree/Salary for citation). Is the 16 days difference worth $20,000?

Don't get me wrong. I love teaching and wouldn't trade it for the world. I am also one of the few that have worked in the business world and knows what that is like as well. The rewards of seeing a student understand something new for the first time is more than worth the $20,000 difference in pay to me. I can also tell you that teachers complain about how people are in the business world and they don't know what that is like either. It is one of those, the grass is always greener on the other side things where both sides see the positives in the other without seeing all the other stuff.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 12/1/2006 2:44:49 AM   
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The average person works 5 days a week for 50 weeks a year. That totals 250 days. Take out Christmas, 4th of July, Labor Day, and New years and you are down to 246 days per year. A teacher is scheduled to work anywhere from 180 - 200 days per year. (186 in my district). That doesn't include the 5 or 6 days I spend before school starts in my classroom getting it ready. The other 3 days that I spend after school is out getting my room ready for summer. It also doesn't include every Sunday during the 36 weeks of the school year that I spend grading papers. That puts me at 230 days. 16 days difference. (I know some work more but I am saying average)

Who works just a 5 day week anymore? No one who makes any significant amount of money. I probably average 5.75 days a week about 10 hours a day. No one I know ever uses all their vacation time either. I get about a week a year. Of course taking out the time that I post on the forum I probably work 1 hour a day.

Then there is the idea that teachers, being government employees, get off far more holidays than private sector employees do, like Presidents day, Martin Luther King day. Plus, many school districts now build in 4 day weeks to give their teachers some down time. I think we get 7 actual holidays a year. I worked 3 of them this last year.

This is not at all to imply that teachers don't earn every dime. A teachers time "on" is far more intense than even most business executives time "on". The demands on a teacher are high when they are in front of the class. Studies have showed teachers have higher levels of stress than just about any other profession. So, I never begrudge them their time off, I think they need it.

Let's face it, work sucks.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 12/1/2006 2:47:18 AM   
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My hats off to you T, sounds like a full schedule. I considered 4 classes full time. What pray tell is global communications...english?
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Marketing, economics and business law today, statistics and market communication next week, global communication the week after. The last two are oral...



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RE: The Thread!!! - 12/1/2006 2:50:51 AM   
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"Better Off Dead"

A pretty awful movie, especially after about the 1.23 millionth viewing.
On the plus side though, it did generate some decent quotes.



I thought it was pretty good if only for the quotes.

Now tell the truth...can you hear "Everybody wants some" without picturing a dancing hamburger?


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RE: The Thread!!! - 12/1/2006 2:56:45 AM   
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Teachers in NJ make good money. With her masters and 10 years experience my wife makes nearly the same base pay as I do as a Sgt with 18 years experience. Not bad for only working 10 months a year. She also can easily make $50-60 per hous tutoring.

Of course thanks to my overtime (400hrs+ per year) I still wear the pants in our house. She just tells me which ones to wear.


Don't start with the 10 months a year. The average person works 5 days a week for 50 weeks a year. That totals 250 days. Take out Christmas, 4th of July, Labor Day, and New years and you are down to 246 days per year. A teacher is scheduled to work anywhere from 180 - 200 days per year. (186 in my district). That doesn't include the 5 or 6 days I spend before school starts in my classroom getting it ready. The other 3 days that I spend after school is out getting my room ready for summer. It also doesn't include every Sunday during the 36 weeks of the school year that I spend grading papers. That puts me at 230 days. 16 days difference. (I know some work more but I am saying average)

Then there are the times when I have to wait an hour and a half to go to the bathroom because by law, I cannot leave my classroom unattended by a teacher. Don't point out the 7 hour day either because I do not know a single teacher that gets their work done in the seven hours students are in school. Most of us are there anywhere from 1 to 2 hours additional each day getting the lessons ready for the next day.

Then there is the pay. Show me another job that requires a Master's Degree within the first three years and then only pays $40,000 per year (required in Ohio by No Child Left Behind) The average person with a Master's degree in the business world makes about $60,000. (see http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Degree=Master's_Degree/Salary for citation). Is the 16 days difference worth $20,000?

Don't get me wrong. I love teaching and wouldn't trade it for the world. I am also one of the few that have worked in the business world and knows what that is like as well. The rewards of seeing a student understand something new for the first time is more than worth the $20,000 difference in pay to me. I can also tell you that teachers complain about how people are in the business world and they don't know what that is like either. It is one of those, the grass is always greener on the other side things where both sides see the positives in the other without seeing all the other stuff.


My wife has a bathroom in her class room. I know about the extra hours since her after school work frequently takes up valauble computer time that prevents me from playing WiTP. Not to mention that I have to help so I feel like I have gone through the 2nd grade 8 9 times now. I think we were still finger painting in 2nd grade, now they are working with computers and doing math that I didn't get until middle school.

Masters in required and only gets you up to 40K? That sucks. My wife is 74 and will be at 82K next year. Without the Masters, which is not a requirement) she would be about 8K less.

Then again we pay close to 10K in property taxes (NJ is #! in the US for taxes and car insurance) so I guess we have a higher cost of living than OH.


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RE: The Thread!!! - 12/1/2006 2:58:27 AM   
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What is with the lack of posting? I am out of the office for a day and ypu guys only do 1 page? How are we aver going to reach 1000?

Post my brothers...post!

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RE: The Thread!!! - 12/1/2006 2:59:06 AM   
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Onimie, come on. Do your part!

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