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Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/18/2007 2:38:06 AM

RUPD3658

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Ran the turn Kenny sent me and I am not sure if I made out any better. The points came out in favor of Kenny. The real turn saw him score 1028 to my 521 (+507 Allied) and this one saw him score 1958 to my 1218 (+740 Allied) I have sent the turn back without orders so he can inspect his ships. Maybe he will want to go with the bloodier turn. End result:

Japan:
Sunk:

3 CV
1 CVL
1 CVE
1 CA
4 CL
1 DD

Will sink next turn:

1 CVL
1CVE
3 BB including Musashi
1 CS
2 DD

Allied:

Sunk:
1 CVL
2 CVE
2 BB including POW
4 CA
2 CL
2 DD

Will sink:
?

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/31/43

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ASW attack at 75,57

Japanese Ships
DD Murakumo
DD Samidare

Allied Ships
SS Barb

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Sub attack at 64,99

Japanese Ships
SS I-6

Allied Ships
CA Australia

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ASW attack at 82,62

Japanese Ships
DD Yamakaze
DD Harusame
DD Kiyonami

Allied Ships
SS Cod, hits 6

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Sub attack at 78,59

Japanese Ships
DD Hatakaze
DD Amatsukaze
DD Oyashio
DD Arashio
DD Arashi
DD Hayashio
DD Hatsuharu
DD Hagikaze
CA Kinugasa

Allied Ships
SS Barb

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 95
Ki-49 Helen x 65

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
262 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 115

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Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 3
Liberator VI x 126
P-40B Tomahawk x 20

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 19
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 110

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Day Air attack on TF at 82,62

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 8
A6M5 Zeke x 40
A6M3a Zero x 155

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 9 destroyed

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Day Air attack on TF at 84,62

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 3
D3A Val x 119
D4Y Judy x 27
A6M3a Zero x 20
B5N Kate x 116
B6N Jill x 18

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 63
F6F Hellcat x 21
Corsair IV x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed
D3A Val: 70 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 7 destroyed, 3 damaged
A6M3a Zero: 16 destroyed
B5N Kate: 68 destroyed
B6N Jill: 3 destroyed, 10 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Corsair IV: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CVE Chenango, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Hermes, Bomb hits 1
CVL Belleau Wood, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Suwannee, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Sangamon
CLAA Juneau

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Day Air attack on TF at 84,62

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 3
A6M3a Zero x 15
B5N Kate x 41

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 29
F6F Hellcat x 9
Corsair IV x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 9 destroyed
B5N Kate: 16 destroyed, 9 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 5 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Sangamon, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CVL Hermes, Torpedo hits 1
CVL Belleau Wood, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Suwannee, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CLAA Juneau, Torpedo hits 1

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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 2

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on 216th USA Coast AA Regiment, at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 19
F6F Hellcat x 122
Corsair IV x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed

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Day Air attack on 26th USA FA Brigade, at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 19
F6F Hellcat x 122
Corsair IV x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed

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Day Air attack on 40th USA/C Division, at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
A6M3a Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 19
F6F Hellcat x 122
Corsair IV x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 9 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 7 destroyed

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Day Air attack on 27th USA Division, at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 49
A6M3a Zero x 39

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 19
F6F Hellcat x 122
Corsair IV x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 49 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 37 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed
F6F Hellcat: 9 destroyed, 6 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 82,62

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 8
A6M5 Zeke x 36
A6M3a Zero x 131

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 26
F6F Hellcat x 92
SBD Dauntless x 109
Barracuda x 13
TBF Avenger x 38
TBM Avenger x 52

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 8 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 22 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 94 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 18 destroyed
F6F Hellcat: 52 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 3 destroyed, 13 damaged
Barracuda: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
TBF Avenger: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged
TBM Avenger: 6 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CVE Kaiyo, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 82,62

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 7
A6M3a Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 12
SBD Dauntless x 4
TBM Avenger x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 12 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 82,62

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 6
A6M3a Zero x 12

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 13
SBD Dauntless x 24
TBM Avenger x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 10 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 82,62

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 5
A6M3a Zero x 7

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 4
SBD Dauntless x 27
TBM Avenger x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 2 damaged
TBM Avenger: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 82,62

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 10
A6M3a Zero x 13

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4
SBD Dauntless x 31
TBM Avenger x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 84,62

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
Corsair IV x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair IV: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 84,62

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 11

Allied aircraft
Corsair IV x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 9 damaged

Allied Ships
CVE Sangamon, on fire
CLAA San Diego, Torpedo hits 1

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Naval bombardment of Wake Island, at 82,63 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CL Detroit
CA Baltimore, Shell hits 3
CA Wichita
BB Prince of Wales
BB Massachusetts
BB South Dakota
BB Washington
BB North Carolina

Japanese ground losses:
2118 casualties reported
Guns lost 11

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 27
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 2

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Ground combat at Wake Island

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22687 troops, 117 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 677

Defending force 111591 troops, 695 guns, 263 vehicles, Assault Value = 2385

Allied ground losses:
127 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12442 troops, 403 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1932

Defending force 313237 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10572

Allied ground losses:
419 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Wake Island

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4119 troops, 147 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2385

Defending force 29838 troops, 118 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 677

Japanese ground losses:
134 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/01/43

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Sub attack at 82,62

Japanese Ships
CV Shokaku
DD Hatsuzuki
DD Susuzuki
DD Teruzuki
DD Akizuki

Allied Ships
SS Cod

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Sub attack near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Hakaze
DD Minekaze
DD Oite
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
SS Dragonet

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei, Shell hits 16, on fire
CA Kako, Shell hits 3
CL Oyodo, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
CL Agano
CL Noshiro, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Sendai
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 2
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 3
CL Natori, Shell hits 19, on fire
CL Yura, Shell hits 40, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Kinu, Shell hits 10
CL Kuma, Shell hits 8
CL Tama, Shell hits 3
CL Kiso, Shell hits 6
CL Kitakami, Shell hits 1, on fire
CL Tatsuta
CL Yubari, Shell hits 1
DD Onami, Shell hits 2
DD Hibiki
DD Amagiri
DD Mutsuki
DD Tomozuru, Shell hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
CA Portland, Shell hits 2
CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 1
CA San Francisco
CA Vincennes, Shell hits 6
CA Devonshire, Torpedo hits 1
CA Cornwall, Shell hits 2
CL Perth, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CL Mauritius, Shell hits 4
CL Mobile, Shell hits 19, Torpedo hits 3, on fire
DD Cony
DD Dashiell, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Eaton, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Halford, Shell hits 1
DD Harrison, Shell hits 1, on fire

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei, Shell hits 4, on fire
CA Kako, Shell hits 5, on fire
CL Oyodo, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
CL Agano, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
CL Noshiro, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
CL Sendai, Shell hits 1
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 2, on fire
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 7, on fire
CL Natori, Shell hits 17, on fire, heavy damage
CL Yura, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage
CL Kinu, Shell hits 7
CL Kuma
CL Tama, Shell hits 3
CL Kiso, Shell hits 5
CL Kitakami, Shell hits 2, on fire
CL Tatsuta
CL Yubari
DD Onami, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Hibiki
DD Amagiri
DD Mutsuki
DD Tomozuru, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CA Portland, Shell hits 2
CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CA San Francisco, Shell hits 1, on fire
CA Vincennes
CA Devonshire, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA Cornwall, Shell hits 4
CL Perth, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CL Mauritius, Shell hits 2
CL Mobile, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Cony
DD Dashiell, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Eaton, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
DD Halford, Shell hits 1
DD Harrison, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 1 destroyed
Walrus: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 2
BB Musashi, Shell hits 2, on fire
BB Fuso, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Ise, Shell hits 1, on fire
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 10, on fire
CA Haguro, Shell hits 20
CA Nachi, Shell hits 3
CA Mogami, Shell hits 13
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CA Kumano, Shell hits 1
CA Aoba, Shell hits 4
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 1
DD Niizuki
DD Akigumo
DD Makinami
DD Tamanami
DD Ikazuchi

Allied Ships
BB North Carolina, Shell hits 4, on fire
BB Washington, Shell hits 27, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
BB South Dakota, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
BB Massachusetts, Shell hits 1
BB Prince of Wales, Shell hits 21, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CA Wichita, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
CA Baltimore, Torpedo hits 1
CL Detroit, Shell hits 3
DD Conway, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD John Rodgers
DD Spence, Shell hits 13, on fire
DD Taylor, Shell hits 1, on fire

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu
BB Musashi, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
BB Fuso, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Ise, Shell hits 10, on fire
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 6, on fire
CA Haguro, Shell hits 5, on fire
CA Nachi, Shell hits 6, on fire
CA Mogami
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
CA Kumano, Shell hits 8
CA Aoba, Shell hits 5
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 3
DD Niizuki, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Akigumo, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
DD Makinami, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Tamanami, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Ikazuchi, Shell hits 3, on fire

Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Shell hits 1
BB Oklahoma
CA Northampton
CA Houston, Shell hits 1
CA Chester
CA Louisville, Shell hits 1, on fire
CA Pensacola
CL De Ruyter
CL Richmond, Shell hits 1
CL Raleigh, Shell hits 1
DD Philip, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Pringle, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Sigsbee, Shell hits 1
DD Gwin, Shell hits 1
DD Grayson
DD Sampson, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Benham
DD Ellet

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 4 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Shell hits 2
BB Haruna, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Kirishima
BB Nagato, Shell hits 1
BB Yamato
BB Yamashiro
CA Tone, Shell hits 1
CA Chikuma, Shell hits 2
CA Atago
CA Chokai
DD Satsuki
DD Oite
DD Minekaze, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hakaze, Shell hits 5
DD Tsuga, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Hasu

Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Shell hits 6, on fire
BB Oklahoma, Shell hits 3, on fire
CA Northampton, Shell hits 25, and is sunk
CA Houston, Shell hits 1, on fire
CA Chester, Shell hits 21, and is sunk
CA Louisville, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
CA Pensacola, Shell hits 3
CL De Ruyter, Shell hits 2, on fire
CL Richmond, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Raleigh, Shell hits 13, on fire, heavy damage
DD Philip, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Pringle, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
DD Sigsbee, Shell hits 4
DD Gwin
DD Grayson, Shell hits 1
DD Sampson, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Benham, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Ellet, Shell hits 3

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 4 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Shell hits 1
BB Haruna, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
BB Kirishima
BB Nagato, Shell hits 1
BB Yamato, Shell hits 2
BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 1
CA Tone
CA Chikuma, Shell hits 1
CA Atago
CA Chokai
DD Satsuki, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Oite
DD Minekaze, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hakaze
DD Tsuga, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Hasu

Allied Ships
CA Portland, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA San Francisco, Shell hits 1, on fire
CA Vincennes, Shell hits 2
CA Devonshire, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CA Cornwall, Shell hits 1, on fire
CL Mauritius
CL Mobile, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Cony
DD Dashiell, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
DD Eaton, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Halford
DD Harrison, on fire, heavy damage

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Sub attack near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hakaze
DD Minekaze, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Dragonet

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Naval bombardment of Wake Island, at 82,63

Allied Ships
CL Raleigh, on fire, heavy damage
CL Richmond, on fire, heavy damage
CL De Ruyter, on fire
CA Pensacola
CA Houston, on fire
BB Oklahoma, on fire
BB Nevada, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
320 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 9
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 2

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Sub attack at 82,62

Japanese Ships
CS Mizuho, Torpedo hits 1
DD Ariake
DD Umikaze
DD Fujinami
DD Suzunami
DD Takanami

Allied Ships
SS Cod, hits 4

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 98
Ki-49 Helen x 76

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
105 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 95

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Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 9
Liberator VI x 131
P-40B Tomahawk x 32

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 150

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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 15
A6M3a Zero x 36

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 2

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on 26th USA FA Brigade, at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 14
F6F Hellcat x 95
Corsair IV x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed

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Day Air attack on 40th USA/C Division, at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 15

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 14
F6F Hellcat x 95
Corsair IV x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 15 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed

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Day Air attack on 40th USA/A Division, at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 13
F6F Hellcat x 95
Corsair IV x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed

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Day Air attack on 27th USA Division, at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 55
A6M3a Zero x 27

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 13
F6F Hellcat x 95
Corsair IV x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 53 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 24 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 9 destroyed, 2 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 79,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 1
A6M5 Zeke x 11
A6M3a Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 12
SBD Dauntless x 10
TBM Avenger x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 2 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Shoho
CVL Zuiho, Torpedo hits 1
CVE Chuyo

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Day Air attack on TF at 79,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 7
A6M3a Zero x 14

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 16
F6F Hellcat x 57
SBD Dauntless x 107
Barracuda x 12
TBF Avenger x 37
TBM Avenger x 35

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 14 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged
TBF Avenger: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
TBM Avenger: 10 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryuho, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Shinyo
CV Taiho, Bomb hits 7, on fire
CV Hiyo, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 79,61

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 6
SBD Dauntless x 28
TBM Avenger x 6

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
TBM Avenger: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVE Shinyo, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CV Taiho, Bomb hits 1, on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 79,61

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 12
SBD Dauntless x 42
TBM Avenger x 37

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 5 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVE Shinyo, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CV Taiho, Bomb hits 4, on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 84,62

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
BB Oklahoma

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Day Air attack on TF at 83,63

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Dewey

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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 2

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on TF at 86,61

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
CA San Francisco, on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 85,62

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 3
A6M3a Zero x 15
B5N Kate x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
CVE Suwannee, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Belleau Wood, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 85,62

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CVE Suwannee, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 85,62

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVL Belleau Wood, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 85,62

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

No Japanese losses

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Sub attack at 82,62

Japanese Ships
CS Mizuho, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Ariake
DD Umikaze
DD Fujinami
DD Suzunami
DD Takanami

Allied Ships
SS Cod, hits 1

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ASW attack at 79,61

Japanese Ships
DD Yayoi

Allied Ships
SS Dorado

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ASW attack near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
SS RO-33, hits 4, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Ralph Talbot
DD Mugford
DD Blue
DD Schroeder
DD Guest
DD Daly
CL St. Louis
CVL Cabot
CVL Independence
CV Bunker Hill
CV Hornet

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Ground combat at Wake Island

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22170 troops, 121 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 805

Defending force 112142 troops, 704 guns, 266 vehicles, Assault Value = 2406

Allied ground losses:
70 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12412 troops, 399 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1935

Defending force 312883 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10573

Allied ground losses:
267 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Wake Island

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4174 troops, 148 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2406

Defending force 34137 troops, 144 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 805

Japanese ground losses:
81 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/18/2007 2:57:40 AM

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Hmm, does your opponent have anything to say about his surface combat TFs? I've read a lot of Tom Hunter's stuff re: SC TF composition and in following much of what he pointed to ( and doing a bit of experimenting of my own) I've got a lot of bang out of fairly small SC TFs. Your opponent's SC TFs run almost entirely contrary what Hunter's findings and my own experiments would suggest are succesful. Why did you both go with such huge TFs which would ensure that a lot of your major ships in each TF would sit out some of the battles? Were you looking for redundancy in 2nd and 3rd rounds?

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/18/2007 3:11:46 AM

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quote:

Status: online Hmm, does your opponent have anything to say about his surface combat TFs? I've read a lot of Tom Hunter's stuff re: SC TF composition and in following much of what he pointed to ( and doing a bit of experimenting of my own) I've got a lot of bang out of fairly small SC TFs. Your opponent's SC TFs run almost entirely contrary what Hunter's findings and my own experiments would suggest are succesful. Why did you both go with such huge TFs which would ensure that a lot of your major ships in each TF would sit out some of the battles? Were you looking for redundancy in 2nd and 3rd rounds?

I agree, i usually keep my surface TF's at 12 or less, as i seem to recall thats the max number of ships that can fire during combat. As you can see, my Fast Battleship TF had 12 ships in it, as that unit was to provide the surface defense for my CV's. My other two TF's, the CA TF and the Old BB TF were greater than 12 ships as those TF's were meant purely for Bombardment, not meant to engage surface vessels.

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/18/2007 3:17:27 AM

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Breaking down the battle, here's the cruiser battle.....

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei, Shell hits 16, on fire
CA Kako, Shell hits 3
CL Oyodo, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
CL Agano
CL Noshiro, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Sendai
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 2
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 3
CL Natori, Shell hits 19, on fire
CL Yura, Shell hits 40, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Kinu, Shell hits 10
CL Kuma, Shell hits 8
CL Tama, Shell hits 3
CL Kiso, Shell hits 6
CL Kitakami, Shell hits 1, on fire
CL Tatsuta
CL Yubari, Shell hits 1
DD Onami, Shell hits 2
DD Hibiki
DD Amagiri
DD Mutsuki
DD Tomozuru, Shell hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
CA Portland, Shell hits 2
CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 1
CA San Francisco
CA Vincennes, Shell hits 6
CA Devonshire, Torpedo hits 1
CA Cornwall, Shell hits 2
CL Perth, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CL Mauritius, Shell hits 4
CL Mobile, Shell hits 19, Torpedo hits 3, on fire
DD Cony
DD Dashiell, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Eaton, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Halford, Shell hits 1
DD Harrison, Shell hits 1, on fire

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei, Shell hits 4, on fire
CA Kako, Shell hits 5, on fire
CL Oyodo, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
CL Agano, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
CL Noshiro, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
CL Sendai, Shell hits 1
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 2, on fire
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 7, on fire
CL Natori, Shell hits 17, on fire, heavy damage
CL Yura, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage
CL Kinu, Shell hits 7
CL Kuma
CL Tama, Shell hits 3
CL Kiso, Shell hits 5
CL Kitakami, Shell hits 2, on fire
CL Tatsuta
CL Yubari
DD Onami, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Hibiki
DD Amagiri
DD Mutsuki
DD Tomozuru, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CA Portland, Shell hits 2
CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CA San Francisco, Shell hits 1, on fire
CA Vincennes
CA Devonshire, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA Cornwall, Shell hits 4
CL Perth, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CL Mauritius, Shell hits 2
CL Mobile, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Cony
DD Dashiell, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Eaton, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
DD Halford, Shell hits 1
DD Harrison, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage

despite the presence of a BB, lots more torps and 2:3 superiority in ships, the Japanese didn't do as well as well as they should have....

Japan - 5 CL's, 1 DD's sunk/heavy damage
Allies - 2 CA, 2 CL's, 2 DD's sunk/heavy damage

....i would still call it a minor japanese victory

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/18/2007 3:18:30 AM

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I was going for 8 BB/CA TFs with 4 DDs as escorts.

It is odd the the worst round of comabt for me was against the Nevada and Oklahoma, two of the old BBs vs the Musashi

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu
BB Musashi, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
BB Fuso, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Ise, Shell hits 10, on fire
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 6, on fire
CA Haguro, Shell hits 5, on fire
CA Nachi, Shell hits 6, on fire
CA Mogami
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
CA Kumano, Shell hits 8
CA Aoba, Shell hits 5
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 3
DD Niizuki, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Akigumo, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
DD Makinami, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Tamanami, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Ikazuchi, Shell hits 3, on fire

Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Shell hits 1
BB Oklahoma
CA Northampton
CA Houston, Shell hits 1
CA Chester
CA Louisville, Shell hits 1, on fire
CA Pensacola
CL De Ruyter
CL Richmond, Shell hits 1
CL Raleigh, Shell hits 1
DD Philip, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Pringle, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Sigsbee, Shell hits 1
DD Gwin, Shell hits 1
DD Grayson
DD Sampson, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Benham
DD Ellet

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/18/2007 3:27:52 AM

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Any chance of someone sending the replay my way? I'd love to see how it actually went down?

FWIW I have found that putting torpedo CLs with BBs is almost always a loser. I tend to go for TFs with 4 BB/CAs and 4 DD or 2 CLs and 6 DDs ( if I'm expecting to fight just enemy DDs or I've decided it is going to be a night surface action and thus getting in close with Long Lances ( helps if you have a VERY aggressive Admiral in charge) is going to be my tactic for the battle). As the Japanese though you really want BBs or CAs along no matter what you are fighting as your CLs are almost worthless ( until you get 3.9 inch-armed ones at least. Their volume of fire is terrifying.).

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/18/2007 3:28:26 AM

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here's the my Fast BB's, versus Japanese best BB TF....

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 2
BB Musashi, Shell hits 2, on fire
BB Fuso, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Ise, Shell hits 1, on fire
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 10, on fire
CA Haguro, Shell hits 20
CA Nachi, Shell hits 3
CA Mogami, Shell hits 13
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CA Kumano, Shell hits 1
CA Aoba, Shell hits 4
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 1
DD Niizuki
DD Akigumo
DD Makinami
DD Tamanami
DD Ikazuchi

Allied Ships
BB North Carolina, Shell hits 4, on fire
BB Washington, Shell hits 27, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
BB South Dakota, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
BB Massachusetts, Shell hits 1
BB Prince of Wales, Shell hits 21, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CA Wichita, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
CA Baltimore, Torpedo hits 1
CL Detroit, Shell hits 3
DD Conway, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD John Rodgers
DD Spence, Shell hits 13, on fire
DD Taylor, Shell hits 1, on fire

here my ships got spanked. This goes agaisnt the notion that "smaller the TF's do better than larger TF's" that Nemo mentioned. As you can see pretty much all my ships were engaged in the battle (12 of them), while the only 12 japaense ships engaging the allies were all CA's/BB's.

Japanese - 1 BB, 1 CA sunk/heavy damage
Allies - 3 BB, 1 DD sunk/heavy damage

now here's a different allied task force with the same japanese battle line....

quote:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu
BB Musashi, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
BB Fuso, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Ise, Shell hits 10, on fire
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 6, on fire
CA Haguro, Shell hits 5, on fire
CA Nachi, Shell hits 6, on fire
CA Mogami
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
CA Kumano, Shell hits 8
CA Aoba, Shell hits 5
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 3
DD Niizuki, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Akigumo, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
DD Makinami, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Tamanami, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Ikazuchi, Shell hits 3, on fire

Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Shell hits 1
BB Oklahoma
CA Northampton
CA Houston, Shell hits 1
CA Chester
CA Louisville, Shell hits 1, on fire
CA Pensacola
CL De Ruyter
CL Richmond, Shell hits 1
CL Raleigh, Shell hits 1
DD Philip, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Pringle, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Sigsbee, Shell hits 1
DD Gwin, Shell hits 1
DD Grayson
DD Sampson, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Benham
DD Ellet

This TF did much better than my Fast BB TF, despite being much weaker force. The result was an additional japanese 1 BB, 2 DD sunk/damage for 2 allied DDs sunk/heavy damage.

So my 2 TF's ended up with the following score against the Musashi Battleline...

Japanese - 2 BB, 1 CA, 2 DD sunk/heavy damage
Allied - 3 BB, 3 DD sunk/heavy damage

would call it a draw, since the Musashi is such a massive ship. Now the question is, would my BB's, CA's have done better in one TF, or split up as they were?

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/18/2007 3:34:57 AM

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Lastly here's the final japanese BB TF, taking on the already exhausted allied CA-TF...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Shell hits 1
BB Haruna, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
BB Kirishima
BB Nagato, Shell hits 1
BB Yamato, Shell hits 2
BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 1
CA Tone
CA Chikuma, Shell hits 1
CA Atago
CA Chokai
DD Satsuki, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Oite
DD Minekaze, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hakaze
DD Tsuga, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Hasu

Allied Ships
CA Portland, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA San Francisco, Shell hits 1, on fire
CA Vincennes, Shell hits 2
CA Devonshire, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CA Cornwall, Shell hits 1, on fire
CL Mauritius
CL Mobile, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Cony
DD Dashiell, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
DD Eaton, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Halford
DD Harrison, on fire, heavy damage

as you can see, it was no contest for the exhausted CA's against japanese BB's. The BB Haruna and japanese DD are only heavily damaged due to previous sub attacks. Not counted the damaged/sunk ships from the Allied CA's previous engagement here's what additional losses occured

Japanese - none
Allied - 1 CA, 1 DD sunk/heavy damage

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/18/2007 3:36:56 AM

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You know, it'd be a great opportunity to run some tests by varying TF composition.

As the Japanese I would suggest the following composition
4 BB, 2 CA and 2 DDs x 3 TF,
5 CA + 1 gun CL (not kitakami or Oi) + 2 DD

4to CL CL + 4 to 6 DD in your other TFs.

Make sure your BB TFs are the lowest-numbered as they fight first, your CA TF next-lowest and your CL-led DD TFs next.

The concept behind this arrangement ( which I've tested and works quite well indeed) is that your BBs trade the bows as they are the most survivable vs enemy BBs. Your lowest-numbered TF should be of ALL your best BBs ( 2 Yamato class and 2 modern 16 inchers) and so on in decreasing quality.

The first TF damages the enemy sufficiently that the enemy offensive capability is so compromised that they cannot take advantage of your lower capability 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th etc TFs and therefore these TFs add their gun damage.

By the time the enemy TFs are being engaged by your Cl-led DD TF most of the very light ships should be stripped away and whatever remains should be badly damaged... perfect targets for Long Lances.

I would be very surprised if you didn't find that the results from the setup I outline above are very different than what occurred in-game. For reasons of testing the Allied TF setup should not, of course, change.

No pressure etc. I just think it would be interesting to run the above and see. I've had good results with it in testing and in-game after coming up with the underlying hypotheses while reading some of Hunters stuff.

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/18/2007 3:38:24 AM

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Since this excercise was about Surface engagements and not about the CV fights here was the final outcome of those surface engagements.....

Japanese - 11 ships sunk/heavy damage
2 BB
1 CA
5 CL
3 DD

Allied - 13 ships sunk/heavy damage
3 BB
3 CA
2 CL
5 DD

based on that i would call it a minor or moderate japanese victory

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/18/2007 3:40:58 AM

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quote:

Any chance of someone sending the replay my way? I'd love to see how it actually went down?

don't think you would find out anymore information than what you see, as we play with combat animations turned off.

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/18/2007 3:41:39 AM

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quote:

You know, it'd be a great opportunity to run some tests by varying TF composition.

As the Japanese I would suggest the following composition
4 BB, 2 CA and 2 DDs x 3 TF,
5 CA + 1 gun CL (not kitakami or Oi) + 2 DD

4to CL CL + 4 to 6 DD in your other TFs.

Make sure your BB TFs are the lowest-numbered as they fight first, your CA TF next-lowest and your CL-led DD TFs next.

The concept behind this arrangement ( which I've tested and works quite well indeed) is that your BBs trade the bows as they are the most survivable vs enemy BBs. Your lowest-numbered TF should be of ALL your best BBs ( 2 Yamato class and 2 modern 16 inchers) and so on in decreasing quality.

The first TF damages the enemy sufficiently that the enemy offensive capability is so compromised that they cannot take advantage of your lower capability 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th etc TFs and therefore these TFs add their gun damage.

By the time the enemy TFs are being engaged by your Cl-led DD TF most of the very light ships should be stripped away and whatever remains should be badly damaged... perfect targets for Long Lances.

I would be very surprised if you didn't find that the results from the setup I outline above are very different than what occurred in-game. For reasons of testing the Allied TF setup should not, of course, change.

No pressure etc. I just think it would be interesting to run the above and see. I've had good results with it in testing and in-game after coming up with the underlying hypotheses while reading some of Hunters stuff.

what do you feel is the best combination for the allies?

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/18/2007 3:52:23 AM

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Looked at the turn, so i can complete the scorecard for the "what if" turn....

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Ran the turn Kenny sent me and I am not sure if I made out any better. The points came out in favor of Kenny. The real turn saw him score 1028 to my 521 (+507 Allied) and this one saw him score 1958 to my 1218 (+740 Allied) I have sent the turn back without orders so he can inspect his ships. Maybe he will want to go with the bloodier turn. End result:

Japan:
Sunk:

3 CV
1 CVL
1 CVE
1 CA
4 CL
1 DD

Will sink next turn:

1 CVL
1CVE
3 BB including Musashi
1 CS
2 DD

Allied:

Sunk:
1 CVL
2 CVE
2 BB including POW
4 CA
2 CL
2 DD

Will sink:
2 CA
2 CL
6 DD

That will leave the final score cards

Japanese Sunk - 19 ships
3 CV
2 CVL
2 CVE
3 BB
1 CS
1 CA
4 CL
3 DD

Allied Sunk - 21 ships sunk
1 CVL
2 CVE
2 BB including POW
6 CA
4 CL
8 DD

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/18/2007 5:30:03 AM

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KDonovan,

Basically the same except that the Allies should mix CLs in in addition to the CAs since they rely much more on guns than torpedoes.

E.g. If we were taking the same force except it being an Allied one I would go for:

4 x BB + 2 CL + 4 DD. ( The BBs for the big hits and the CLs to crucify the IJN CLs and DDs)

3 CA + 2 CL + 5 DD x 2 cruiser TFs.

The main difference being that the Allies really don't gain by having dedicated torpedo TFs to finish the enemy off so, instead, they are better off going with a few heavy TFs up front to really do the main damage and then have their 30/30/40 CA/CL/DD ( or close to that ratio) come in to finish up the enemy units with a combination of gunfire and torpedoes. The CA-led TF above would actually be enough to finish anything short of a BB quite easily with just their guns. The DDs are just present to get torpedo hits on damaged BBs.

But the real key is just to not mix unit types - have all your 14 inch BBs together, all your 16 and 18inchers together etc - and to ensure that you have multiple engagements of, ideally, a single enemy TF by multiple friendly TFs. Even when this fails just configuring the TF properly will do wonders. e.g. In the Chumming the Waters AAR a single IJN CA TF ( featuring 3 CA, 1 CL and about 6 DD) ended up sinking multiple enemy DDs, CLs, CAs and seriously damaging a couple of BBs. Its only downfall was that I had left it there by mistake so it had to face 4 enemy TFs on its own and the last two enemy TFs got their own licks in. But if you look at the serious of engagements over the course of that night the conclusions are obvious.

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/18/2007 3:46:36 PM

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BB South Dakota is going to survive?

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/18/2007 10:59:14 PM

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BB South Dakota is going to survive?

looks that way. I don't have the exact figures, but both System, Float were in the orange, and the fires were in the yellow. And we all know that allied DC is a godsend

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/18/2007 11:47:11 PM

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ok, i just took a look at the SD, she has 65 system, 25 flt, 14 fires...and she's making 9 knots, and is 14 hexes away from Midway.

Tough call whether she would make it or not. If the flt damage was 40..i would say she's a definete gonner, but with 25, i'm not so sure...50/50 she makes it IMO

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/19/2007 12:58:09 AM

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Ken,
Did you forward deploy some AR's to Midway??
About 3 would be nice with a few AD's thrown in.

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/19/2007 1:10:18 AM

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quote:

Ken,
Did you forward deploy some AR's to Midway??
About 3 would be nice with a few AD's thrown in.

yep...i have 4 AR's and 1 AD at Midway

good to see you again Mike, you mysteriously disappeared as soon as the Giants loss

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/19/2007 1:49:36 AM

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Which of the losses in the last 9 games are you referring to?? You have 7 to choose from.

I'll leave the off season coaching moves and non-moves (so far) for another day and time.

In stock, I usually start converting AK's to repair ships from day one. Can never have enough. Plus, I was on the USS Canopus AS -34 for 4 years while I was in the Navy and am biased towards them.

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Not to give aid and comfort to the enemy but I have found that Naval HQs work even better than ARs. I have saved several ships by fast transporting Naval HQs to the ports were these ships put in.

NY59Giants: I would tease you about the Giants loss expect that my Eagles blew their game last week.

Oh well, only 2 weeks until the start of Spring training. How will the Phillies disappoint me this year?

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RE: Battle of Wake (The aftermath) - 1/19/2007 3:02:51 AM

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Just noticed that we have moved solidly into 10th place for total replies to an AAR.

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RE: Battle of Wake (The aftermath) - 1/19/2007 4:26:37 AM

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quote:

Not to give aid and comfort to the enemy but I have found that Naval HQs work even better than ARs. I have saved several ships by fast transporting Naval HQs to the ports were these ships put in.

Me too. I have a naval HQ at Pearl Harbor and Sydney and it really speeds up the repair process. Unfortunately i only have 2 Fleet HQ's, so my AR's are my work horse's

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RE: Battle of Wake (The aftermath) - 1/19/2007 4:27:37 AM

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Just noticed that we have moved solidly into 10th place for total replies to an AAR.

sweet!!....now we just need the top ten in number of views....last time i check i think we were in the teens somewhere

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RE: Battle of Wake (The aftermath) - 1/19/2007 6:47:44 AM

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quote:

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Just noticed that we have moved solidly into 10th place for total replies to an AAR.

sweet!!....now we just need the top ten in number of views....last time i check i think we were in the teens somewhere

Nothing against your AAR, but join AAR's have a different flavor than one's that you can solicited advice. Good for those who are fanboys.

The best AAR to follow was VSWG (Martin's) IMO since he had so much screen shots and maps to follow.

However, it was a lot of work to post the amount of info he provided. It is hard to read and go by mainly combat reports.

Your's was easy for me as I was able to get inside information via PM.

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RE: Battle of Wake (The aftermath) - 1/21/2007 3:26:06 AM

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Kenny played it safe and did not send his carriers in pursuit of the damaged KB. Made for a pretty tame turn. I did manage to sink the SS Trout and damage a few other subs with AC from Marcus. Not to hard to do since there are so many subs between marcus and wake that my troops could just walk there.

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ASW attack at 77,57

Japanese Ships
DD Yamakaze

Allied Ships
SS Trout

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Sub attack at 78,60

Japanese Ships
DD Nowaki, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Asagumo
DD Maikaze

Allied Ships
SS Bonefish

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ASW attack at 74,55

Japanese Ships
DD Yunagi
DD Kamikaze
DD Akebono
DD Asagiri
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Shiranuhi

Allied Ships
SS Flying Fish, hits 1, heavy damage

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ASW attack at 78,60

Japanese Ships
PG Toyotsu Maru
PG Tatsumiya Maru
PG Taiko Maru
PG Sozan Maru
PG Shotoku Maru
PG Shoei Maru
PG Shinko Maru #5
PG Shinko Maru #1
PG Shinko Maru #3
PG Seisho Maru
PG Santos Maru
MSW W.22
MSW W.21
PC Ishigaki
PC Kunashiri
PC Hachijo

Allied Ships
SS Bonefish, hits 2, on fire

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ASW attack at 78,60

Japanese Ships
PG Toyotsu Maru
PG Tatsumiya Maru
PG Taiko Maru
PG Sozan Maru
PG Shotoku Maru
PG Shoei Maru
PG Shinko Maru #5
PG Shinko Maru #1
PG Shinko Maru #3
PG Seisho Maru
PG Santos Maru
MSW W.22
MSW W.21
PC Ishigaki
PC Kunashiri
PC Hachijo

Allied Ships
SS Bonefish, hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

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ASW attack at 83,63

Japanese Ships
SS RO-33, hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Laffey
DD Smith
DD Chevalier
DD Nicholson
DD Duncan
DD Russell
CLAA San Juan
DD Ralph Talbot
DD Mugford
DD Blue
DD Schroeder
DD Daly

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TF 1004 encounters mine field at Eniwetok (76,74)

Allied Ships
DMS Boggs
DMS Hamilton
DMS Zane

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Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 9
Liberator VI x 132
P-40B Tomahawk x 29

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 113

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Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88

Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 7
Brewster 339D x 11
B-25J Mitchell x 152

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 131

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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 2

No Allied losses

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Ground combat at Wake Island

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22879 troops, 108 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 834

Defending force 110584 troops, 677 guns, 260 vehicles, Assault Value = 2365

Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12419 troops, 403 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1935

Defending force 311973 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10583

Allied ground losses:
212 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Wake Island

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4169 troops, 149 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2365

Defending force 36694 troops, 157 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 834

Japanese ground losses:
230 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/03/43

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TF 1069 encounters mine field at Eniwetok (76,74)

Allied Ships
MSW Abraham Crijnssen
MSW Igonish
MSW Finch
MSW Oracle
MSW Ipswitch

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ASW attack at 76,58

Japanese Ships
DD Shiratsuyu

Allied Ships
SS Barb

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TF 1069 encounters mine field at Eniwetok (76,74)

Allied Ships
MSW Abraham Crijnssen
MSW Igonish
MSW Finch
MSW Oracle
MSW Ipswitch

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 75
Ki-49 Helen x 57

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
160 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 101

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Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 10
Liberator VI x 133
P-40B Tomahawk x 34

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
51 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 114

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Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 4
CW-21B Demon x 8
Brewster 339D x 11
B-25J Mitchell x 145

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 9 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 172

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Ground combat at Wake Island

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22830 troops, 109 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 830

Defending force 111356 troops, 684 guns, 264 vehicles, Assault Value = 2389

Allied ground losses:
41 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12395 troops, 401 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1930

Defending force 311020 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10598

Allied ground losses:
524 casualties reported

Spotted troops at Chungking dropped to 114 units and went down by 1500 men but the AV went up by 22. Weird

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Ground combat at Wake Island

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4157 troops, 148 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2389

Defending force 36843 troops, 161 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 830

Japanese ground losses:
483 casualties reported
Guns lost 11
Vehicles lost 1

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"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits"- Darwin Awards 2003

"No plan survives contact with the enemy." - Field Marshall Helmuth von Moltke

(in reply to ny59giants)

Post #: 716

RE: Battle of Wake (The aftermath) - 1/21/2007 3:28:27 AM

RUPD3658

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Nothing against your AAR, but join AAR's have a different flavor than one's that you can solicited advice. Good for those who are fanboys. The best AAR to follow was VSWG (Martin's) IMO since he had so much screen shots and maps to follow. However, it was a lot of work to post the amount of info he provided. It is hard to read and go by mainly combat reports.

Your's was easy for me as I was able to get inside information via PM.

All Jap fanboys can feel free to PM me advice on how to hold off the Allied hordes. My plans really didn't go beyond 1/1/43 so I have been making it up as I went along.

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"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits"- Darwin Awards 2003

"No plan survives contact with the enemy." - Field Marshall Helmuth von Moltke

(in reply to ny59giants)

Post #: 717

CAs vs BBs at Wake - 1/22/2007 5:23:33 AM

RUPD3658

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I figured that Kenny's Cvs were low on fuel and had to head back to Midway. With this in mind I reasoned that he would withdraw all his ships from the Wake area due to lack of aircover. I thought that I would be able to sneak bombardment and Fast Transport TFs in before he returned to Wake. Unfortuently he turned around and I lost several CAs as a result.

In the massive air battle that ensued some Bettys actually got through the CAP and attacked the CVs but did not score any hits. I lost 570 AC to 107 Allied.

VP ratio is now less than 3:1 so my strategy can now go from 1:3 losses being unacceptabe to 2:1 losses being acceptable.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/04/43

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ASW attack at 78,59

Japanese Ships
DD Murakumo
DD Samidare
DD Onami
DD Satsuki
DD Mutsuki
DD Oite
CA Furutaka
CA Mogami

Allied Ships
SS Puffer, hits 1

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ASW attack at 78,59

Japanese Ships
DD Hakaze
DD Minekaze
DD Amagiri
DD Hibiki
DD Ariake
DD Umikaze
DD Fujinami

Allied Ships
SS Puffer, hits 1

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 145
Ki-49 Helen x 87

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
208 casualties reported

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 153

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Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 5
CW-21B Demon x 8
Brewster 339D x 8
B-25J Mitchell x 132

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 9 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
62 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 131

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Day Air attack on TF at 83,63

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 11

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 72
F6F Hellcat x 201
Corsair IV x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 10 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 83,63

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 72
F6F Hellcat x 200
Corsair IV x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged

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ASW attack at 78,58

Japanese Ships
DD Amatsukaze
DD Shiranuhi
DD Maikaze
DD Hayashio
DD Oyashio
DD Hayanami
DD Tamanami
DD Makinami
DD Yayoi
DD Kisaragi
DD Ayanami
DD Shirakumo
DD Harusame
DD Arashi
DD Kiyonami

Allied Ships
SS Apogon, hits 3, heavy damage

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ASW attack at 78,58

Japanese Ships
DD Amatsukaze
DD Shiranuhi
DD Maikaze
DD Hayashio
DD Oyashio
DD Hayanami
DD Tamanami
DD Makinami
DD Yayoi
DD Kisaragi
DD Ayanami
DD Shirakumo
DD Harusame

Allied Ships
SS Apogon, hits 7, heavy damage sunk

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Ground combat at Wake Island

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22545 troops, 112 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 812

Defending force 112158 troops, 690 guns, 266 vehicles, Assault Value = 2415

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12439 troops, 401 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1929

Defending force 310972 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10607

Allied ground losses:
156 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Wake Island

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4204 troops, 150 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2415

Defending force 36808 troops, 169 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 812

Japanese ground losses:
175 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/05/43

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Sub attack at 82,62

Japanese Ships
DD Murakumo
DD Samidare
DD Onami
DD Satsuki
DD Mutsuki
DD Oite
CA Mogami

Allied Ships
SS Pogy

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ASW attack at 80,61

Japanese Ships
DD Amatsukaze
DD Shiranuhi
DD Maikaze
DD Hayashio
DD Oyashio
DD Hayanami
DD Tamanami
DD Makinami
DD Yayoi
DD Kisaragi
DD Ayanami
DD Shirakumo
DD Harusame
DD Arashi
DD Kiyonami
DD Niizuki

Allied Ships
SS Scamp, hits 3

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TF 1024 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

27 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
MSW Bayfield, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Lithgow, Shell hits 1, on fire
MSW Castlemaine, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Ballarat, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
DD Piet Hein

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TF 1063 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

Allied Ships
DD Trathen
DD Spence
DD Taylor
DD Terry
DD Thatcher

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TF 1073 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

Allied Ships
DD Boyd
DD Mustin

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TF 1138 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

Allied Ships
DD Dale
DD Hull

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ASW attack at 81,62

Japanese Ships
DD Amatsukaze
DD Shiranuhi
DD Maikaze
DD Hayashio
DD Oyashio
DD Hayanami
DD Tamanami
DD Makinami
DD Yayoi
DD Kisaragi

Allied Ships
SS Cod, hits 10

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Haguro, Shell hits 9, on fire
CA Nachi, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
CA Mogami, Shell hits 2
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 4
CA Kumano
CA Aoba, Shell hits 3
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 82, and is sunk
DD Onami, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Samidare
DD Murakumo
DD Mutsuki, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Satsuki, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Oite, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
BB West Virginia
BB Arizona, Shell hits 1
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB California, Shell hits 3
BB Tennessee, Shell hits 4
BB Indiana, Shell hits 3
BB Warspite
BB Valiant, Shell hits 1
CA Chicago
CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 2
CA Shropshire
CL Java
CL Sumatra, Shell hits 1
CL Tromp
CL Adelaide, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Emerald
CL Birmingham, Shell hits 3, on fire
CL Phoenix
CL Cleveland, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Bennett
DD Claxton
DD LaVallette
DD McKee
DD Phelps
DD Balch

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
CA Haguro, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CA Nachi, Shell hits 18, on fire, heavy damage
CA Mogami, Shell hits 15, on fire
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 5
CA Kumano
CA Aoba, Shell hits 5, on fire
DD Samidare, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
DD Murakumo
DD Mutsuki, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Satsuki, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
DD Oite, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB West Virginia
BB Arizona, Shell hits 1
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 1, on fire
BB California, Shell hits 2
BB Tennessee, Shell hits 2
BB Indiana, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB Warspite, Shell hits 2
BB Valiant
CA Chicago
CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 1
CA Shropshire
CL Java
CL Sumatra
CL Tromp
CL Adelaide, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Emerald
CL Birmingham, on fire
CL Phoenix
CL Cleveland, on fire
DD Bennett
DD Claxton
DD LaVallette
DD McKee
DD Phelps
DD Balch

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
CA Haguro, on fire, heavy damage
CA Nachi, on fire, heavy damage
CA Mogami, Shell hits 38, on fire, heavy damage
CA Mikuma
CA Kumano, Shell hits 3, on fire
CA Aoba, on fire
DD Samidare, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Murakumo
DD Mutsuki, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Satsuki, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB West Virginia
BB Arizona
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 1, on fire
BB California, Shell hits 2
BB Tennessee, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1
BB Indiana, on fire
BB Warspite
BB Valiant
CA Chicago
CA Salt Lake City
CA Shropshire
CL Java
CL Sumatra
CL Tromp
CL Adelaide, on fire, heavy damage
CL Emerald
CL Birmingham, on fire
CL Phoenix
CL Cleveland, on fire
DD Bennett
DD Claxton
DD LaVallette
DD McKee
DD Phelps
DD Balch

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Haguro, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA Nachi, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
CA Mogami, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage
CA Mikuma
CA Kumano, on fire
CA Aoba, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
DD Samidare, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
DD Murakumo, Shell hits 1
DD Mutsuki, on fire

Allied Ships
BB West Virginia, Shell hits 1
BB Arizona
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 2, on fire
BB California, Shell hits 1
BB Tennessee, Shell hits 2
BB Indiana, Shell hits 1, on fire
BB Warspite
BB Valiant
CA Chicago
CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 1
CA Shropshire
CL Java
CL Sumatra
CL Tromp
CL Adelaide, on fire, heavy damage
CL Emerald
CL Birmingham, on fire
CL Phoenix
CL Cleveland, on fire
DD Bennett
DD Claxton
DD LaVallette
DD McKee
DD Phelps
DD Balch

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
CA Haguro, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA Mogami, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 2
CA Kumano, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Aoba, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
DD Murakumo, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Mutsuki, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Abbot
DD Ammen
DD Anthony, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Aulick, Shell hits 1
DD Bache
DD Beale
DD Saufley
DD Dunlap
DD Fanning

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Haguro, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CA Mogami, Shell hits 15, on fire, heavy damage
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 6
CA Kumano, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CA Aoba, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
DD Murakumo, Shell hits 6, on fire
DD Mutsuki, Shell hits 7, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Abbot
DD Ammen
DD Anthony, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Aulick
DD Bache
DD Beale
DD Saufley
DD Dunlap
DD Fanning

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami, and is sunk
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 6
CA Aoba, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
DD Murakumo, Shell hits 27, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Abbot, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Ammen, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
DD Anthony, on fire, heavy damage
DD Aulick
DD Bache
DD Beale
DD Saufley, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Dunlap, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Fanning

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Naval bombardment of Wake Island, at 82,63 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed

36 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CL Cleveland, Shell hits 5, on fire
CL Phoenix, Shell hits 1
CL Birmingham, Shell hits 3, on fire
CL Emerald
CL Tromp, Shell hits 1
CL Sumatra
CL Java
CA Shropshire, Shell hits 3
CA Salt Lake City
CA Chicago
BB Valiant
BB Warspite
BB Indiana, on fire
BB Tennessee, on fire
BB California
BB Pennsylvania, on fire
BB Arizona
BB West Virginia

Japanese ground losses:
1280 casualties reported
Guns lost 33

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 21
Port hits 8
Port supply hits 2

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Sub attack near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
DD Hatsuzuki, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Tsuga
DD Hakaze

Allied Ships
SS Sunfish, hits 2

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ASW attack at 81,62

Japanese Ships
DD Amatsukaze
DD Shiranuhi
DD Maikaze
DD Hayashio
DD Oyashio
DD Hayanami
DD Tamanami
DD Makinami
DD Yayoi
DD Kisaragi
DD Ayanami

Allied Ships
SS Cod, hits 1

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TF 1024 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

TF 1024 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 82,63

Allied Ships
MSW Bayfield, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Lithgow
MSW Castlemaine, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Ballarat, on fire, heavy damage
DD Voyager
AK Halldor, Mine hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
DD Van Ghent
DD Piet Hein
DD Vendetta
DD Kortenaer

Coastal Guns at Wake Island, 82,63, firing at TF 1024
33 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD Voyager

Allied ground losses:
118 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

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ASW attack at 82,62

Allied Ships
SS Pogy

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ASW attack at 81,63

Japanese Ships
PG Toyotsu Maru
PG Tatsumiya Maru
PG Taiko Maru
PG Sozan Maru
PG Shotoku Maru
PG Shoei Maru
PG Shinko Maru #5
PG Shinko Maru #1
PG Shinko Maru #3
PG Seisho Maru
PG Santos Maru
MSW W.22
MSW W.21
PC Ishigaki
PC Kunashiri
PC Hachijo

Allied Ships
SS Dace, hits 4

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 158
Ki-49 Helen x 111

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
200 casualties reported

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 178

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Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
Liberator VI x 134
P-40B Tomahawk x 21

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Port hits 3
Port supply hits 4

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Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 11
CW-21B Demon x 6
Brewster 339D x 8
B-25J Mitchell x 128

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 109

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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 2

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on TF at 81,63

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 25
F6F Hellcat x 95
Corsair IV x 15
SBD Dauntless x 42
Barracuda x 7
TBF Avenger x 18
TBM Avenger x 20

Allied aircraft losses
TBF Avenger: 2 damaged
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
PG Shinko Maru #3, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PC Hachijo, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PG Shotoku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PG Taiko Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW W.21, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PG Shoei Maru
PG Sozan Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
PG Shinko Maru #5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
PG Seisho Maru, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PG Tatsumiya Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
MSW W.22
PC Ishigaki
PC Kunashiri

This poor ASW TF was sent to Wake figuring the Allied CVs had left. All got sunk.

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Day Air attack on TF at 81,63

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
F6F Hellcat x 12
SBD Dauntless x 5
TBM Avenger x 4

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
PG Tatsumiya Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PG Shoei Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PG Shinko Maru #1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
PG Seisho Maru, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 81,63

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 10
F6F Hellcat x 10
SBD Dauntless x 7
TBF Avenger x 6
TBM Avenger x 2

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 1 damaged
TBF Avenger: 1 damaged
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
PG Shinko Maru #5, on fire
PG Santos Maru
PG Toyotsu Maru
PC Ishigaki, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 81,63

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 7
TBF Avenger x 4
TBM Avenger x 1

Allied aircraft losses
TBF Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
PC Ishigaki, on fire, heavy damage
PG Shinko Maru #3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
A6M3a Zero x 22
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 43
F6F Hellcat x 109
Corsair IV x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 23 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 21 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 40
F6F Hellcat x 108
Corsair IV x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 85,61

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
BB West Virginia

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet

Now why can't the Bettys gang up on the TF that is not covered by hundreds of Hellcats?
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Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
A6M3a Zero x 31
G4M2 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 40
F6F Hellcat x 108
Corsair IV x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 23 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 30 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
F6F Hellcat: 10 destroyed, 6 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 48
A6M3a Zero x 57
G4M1 Betty x 3
G4M2 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 38
F6F Hellcat x 98
Corsair IV x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 42 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 55 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 22 destroyed, 9 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Mahan

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 2
G4M1 Betty x 4

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 35
F6F Hellcat x 76
Corsair IV x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 89
A6M3a Zero x 122
G4M1 Betty x 59
G4M2 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 35
F6F Hellcat x 76
Corsair IV x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 68 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 98 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 24 destroyed, 11 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 12 destroyed, 8 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 34 destroyed, 8 damaged
Corsair IV: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Hornet
CVL Independence
CVL Cabot
CV Intrepid
CVL Belleau Wood
CV Yorktown
CVL Cowpens

They broke through but scored no hits.

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 23
F6F Hellcat x 42
Corsair IV x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 82,62

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8
F6F Hellcat x 21
Corsair IV x 3
TBM Avenger x 8

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Hatsuzuki, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 81,63

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 17
F6F Hellcat x 54
Corsair IV x 10
SBD Dauntless x 40
Barracuda x 4
TBF Avenger x 15
TBM Avenger x 8

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
PG Seisho Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
PC Ishigaki, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
PG Shinko Maru #3, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PG Sozan Maru, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PG Shotoku Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PG Taiko Maru, on fire, heavy damage
PG Tatsumiya Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 27
F6F Hellcat x 69
Corsair IV x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed

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Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 27
F6F Hellcat x 69
Corsair IV x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 27
F6F Hellcat x 69
Corsair IV x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 2 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 27
F6F Hellcat x 69
Corsair IV x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 2 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
A6M3a Zero x 38
G4M2 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 27
F6F Hellcat x 69
Corsair IV x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 20 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 37 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 4 destroyed
F6F Hellcat: 6 destroyed, 2 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
A6M3a Zero x 33
G4M1 Betty x 5
G4M2 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 23
F6F Hellcat x 63
Corsair IV x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 8 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 32 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F6F Hellcat: 6 destroyed, 4 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 1
G4M1 Betty x 13

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 22
F6F Hellcat x 57
Corsair IV x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 5 damaged

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ASW attack at 81,63

Japanese Ships
PG Toyotsu Maru
PG Santos Maru
MSW W.22
PC Kunashiri

Allied Ships
SS Dace

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Ground combat at Wake Island

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 28088 troops, 103 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 788

Defending force 113528 troops, 707 guns, 267 vehicles, Assault Value = 2441

Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12406 troops, 401 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1931

Defending force 310436 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10602

Allied ground losses:
164 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Wake Island

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4280 troops, 153 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2441

Defending force 34405 troops, 116 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 788

Japanese ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

< Message edited by RUPD3658 -- 1/22/2007 5:40:38 AM >

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/22/2007 5:28:17 AM

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For those of you that think Kenny should have pursued the KB Halsey-like back to Marcus, here are the key points from that combat report. The KB made it back to port and all that resulted was an air battle.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/02/43

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Day Air attack on TF at 80,60

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
A6M3a Zero x 65
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 72
F6F Hellcat x 211
Corsair IV x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 9 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 65 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 9 destroyed, 8 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 80,60

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 98
A6M3a Zero x 72
G4M1 Betty x 67
G4M2 Betty x 16

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 72
F6F Hellcat x 202
Corsair IV x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 96 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 66 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 35 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 13 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 7 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 13 destroyed, 35 damaged
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Hornet

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Day Air attack on TF at 80,60

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 17
G4M2 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 42
F6F Hellcat x 111
Corsair IV x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 17 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/03/43

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Day Air attack on TF at 80,60

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 36
G4M1 Betty x 35

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 73
F6F Hellcat x 180
Corsair IV x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 32 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 14 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F6F Hellcat: 3 destroyed, 13 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 80,60

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 42
A6M3a Zero x 22
G4M1 Betty x 29
G4M2 Betty x 16

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 72
F6F Hellcat x 177
Corsair IV x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 41 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 22 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 18 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 9 destroyed, 14 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 80,60

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
A6M3a Zero x 29
G4M1 Betty x 4
G4M2 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 55
F6F Hellcat x 97
Corsair IV x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 25 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged

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RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) - 1/22/2007 4:35:03 PM

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Rumor has it that the Giants will sign the Eagles LB coach, Spag's, as their Defense Coordinator in the next few days. Any comments about him??

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