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The Battle of Wake - 1/23/2007 5:54:28 AM   
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RE: The Battle of Wake - 1/23/2007 5:58:19 AM   
RUPD3658


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Status: offline 		I am beginning to think the Allies are using nucular powered CVs. After 16 days of operating at or near wake they are still around and flying missions.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/06/43

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ASW attack at 81,62

Japanese Ships
PG Toyotsu Maru

Allied Ships
SS Cod

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TF 1069 encounters mine field at Eniwetok (76,74)

Allied Ships
MSW Abraham Crijnssen
MSW Igonish
MSW Finch
MSW Oracle
MSW Ipswitch
DMS Boggs
DMS Hamilton
DMS Zane

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 158
Ki-49 Helen x 102

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
319 casualties reported

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 157

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Day Air attack on TF at 83,64

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 18

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 51
F6F Hellcat x 144
F4U-1 Corsair x 60
Corsair IV x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 8 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 9 damaged


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Ground combat at Wake Island

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 23947 troops, 97 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 793

Defending force 114256 troops, 716 guns, 273 vehicles, Assault Value = 2462



Allied ground losses:
57 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12436 troops, 404 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1931

Defending force 309340 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10574



Allied ground losses:
192 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Wake Island

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4370 troops, 155 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2462

Defending force 34521 troops, 121 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 793


Japanese ground losses:
270 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/07/43


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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 177
Ki-49 Helen x 95

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
177 casualties reported

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 186

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Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88


Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 9
Liberator VI x 134
P-40B Tomahawk x 21


Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port hits 2
Port supply hits 9

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Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88


Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 12
CW-21B Demon x 9
Brewster 339D x 11
B-25J Mitchell x 121


Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 64

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Ground combat at Wake Island

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 23758 troops, 93 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 784

Defending force 115071 troops, 738 guns, 276 vehicles, Assault Value = 2479



Allied ground losses:
55 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12476 troops, 404 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1935

Defending force 308178 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10561



Allied ground losses:
374 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Wake Island

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4420 troops, 157 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2479

Defending force 34541 troops, 120 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 784


Japanese ground losses:
155 casualties reported
Guns lost 3





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Wake falls - 1/24/2007 2:15:46 AM   
RUPD3658


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Wake got pummelled by air and sea but managed to hold out for 2 days. Note to self: next time play the Allies

My Bettys were supposed to be set to range 10 to avoid a futile attack against Wake. I didn't bother setting a shorter range for the fighters because the Bettys should not fly. Well, I missed one group of Bettys with a suicidal commander and the Zeros dutifully flew escort. Lost over 100 planse as a result.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/08/43

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TF 1024 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

Allied Ships
DD Van Ghent
DD Vendetta

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TF 1057 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

Allied Ships
DD Cony
DD Conway

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TF 1063 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

Allied Ships
DD Thatcher
DD Philip
DD Terry
DD Sigsbee

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TF 1064 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

Allied Ships
DD Cassin

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TF 1073 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

Allied Ships
DD Stanly
DD Boyd
DD Mustin, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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TF 1127 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

Allied Ships
DD Monaghan
CA Baltimore, Mine hits 1, on fire

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TF 1128 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
MSW Turkey, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Oriole
MSW Tumult
MSW Sage
AP Van Diemen, Mine hits 1


Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported

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TF 1130 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

Allied Ships
AK Prominent, Mine hits 1, on fire

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Naval bombardment of Wake Island, at 82,63 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

3 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CLAA Van Heemskerck
CLAA Capetown, Shell hits 1
CL Marblehead
CL Newcastle
CL Glasgow
CL Enterprise
CL Achilles
CL Leander
CA Canberra
CA Australia
CA Quincy
CA Astoria
BB Mississippi
BB New Mexico
BB Idaho
BB Colorado

Japanese ground losses:
1238 casualties reported
Guns lost 24
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 74
Port hits 7
Port supply hits 4

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Naval bombardment of Wake Island, at 82,63

Allied Ships
CL Mobile
CL Raleigh
CL Richmond
CL Perth
CL De Ruyter
CL Detroit
BB Prince of Wales
BB Massachusetts
BB South Dakota
BB North Carolina
BB Oklahoma
BB Nevada

Japanese ground losses:
1006 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 52
Port hits 9
Port supply hits 7

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Naval bombardment of Wake Island, at 82,63

Allied Ships
CA Cornwall
CA Devonshire
CA Baltimore, on fire
CA Wichita
CA Vincennes
CA San Francisco
CA Minneapolis
CA Pensacola
CA Louisville
CA Chester
CA Houston
CA Northampton
CA Portland

Japanese ground losses:
225 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 36
Port hits 9
Port supply hits 3

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TF 1024 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

TF 1024 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 82,63


Allied Ships
DD Voyager
DD Van Ghent

Coastal Guns at Wake Island, 82,63, firing at TF 1024
6 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD Van Ghent


Allied ground losses:
699 casualties reported

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TF 1111 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

TF 1111 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 82,63


Allied Ships
LST LST-457, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
LCI LCI-62, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Coastal Guns at Wake Island, 82,63, firing at TF 1111
120 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
LCI LCI-222
SC SC-648, Shell hits 2
LCI LCI-85, Shell hits 1
LCI LCI-62, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
2035 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

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TF 1128 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

TF 1128 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 82,63


Allied Ships
MSW Turkey, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Oriole
MSW Tumult
MSW Sage

Coastal Guns at Wake Island, 82,63, firing at TF 1128
4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
SC SC-984


Allied ground losses:
1923 casualties reported

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TF 1130 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

TF 1130 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 82,63


Allied Ships
PG Dawson

Coastal Guns at Wake Island, 82,63, firing at TF 1130
12 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
PG Dawson


Allied ground losses:
610 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 146
Ki-49 Helen x 97

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
270 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 202

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Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88


Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 9
Liberator VI x 132
P-40B Tomahawk x 29


Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported

Port hits 2
Port supply hits 7

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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 8


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on 53rd Division, at 82,63


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 153


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
135 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on 62nd Naval Guard Unit, at 82,63


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 264


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
381 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 41
G4M1 Betty x 3
G4M2 Betty x 8

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 37
F6F Hellcat x 129
F4U-1 Corsair x 86
Corsair IV x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 40 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 3 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 2
LB-30 Liberator x 67

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 59

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Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 14
G4M1 Betty x 2

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 22
F6F Hellcat x 89
F4U-1 Corsair x 65
Corsair IV x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 14 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed


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Naval bombardment of Wake Island, at 82,63

Allied Ships
CL Phoenix
CL Emerald
CL Tromp
CL Sumatra
CL Java
CA Shropshire
CA Salt Lake City
CA Chicago
BB Valiant
BB Warspite
BB California
BB Arizona
BB West Virginia

Japanese ground losses:
99 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 42
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 5


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Ground combat at Wake Island

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 24641 troops, 71 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 689

Defending force 160487 troops, 1778 guns, 295 vehicles, Assault Value = 3283



Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12459 troops, 403 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1935

Defending force 307106 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10536



Allied ground losses:
313 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Wake Island

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 120938 troops, 1688 guns, 108 vehicles, Assault Value = 3283

Defending force 29716 troops, 71 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 689

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 7

Allied max assault: 4322 - adjusted assault: 2475

Japanese max defense: 444 - adjusted defense: 375

Allied assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 7)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2


Japanese ground losses:
3146 casualties reported
Guns lost 19

Allied ground losses:
4620 casualties reported
Guns lost 175
Vehicles lost 13

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/09/43


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Coastal Guns at Wake Island, 82,63, firing at TF 1024
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TF 1024 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

TF 1024 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 82,63


37 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD Kortenaer
DD Voyager
AK Seginus


Allied ground losses:
279 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Wake Island, 82,63, firing at TF 1111
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TF 1111 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

TF 1111 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 82,63


7 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
LCI LCI-336
LST LST-16


Allied ground losses:
119 casualties reported

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TF 1128 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

TF 1128 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 82,63


Allied Ships
MSW Turkey, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Oriole
MSW Tumult
MSW Sage
AP Van Diemen, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Coastal Guns at Wake Island, 82,63, firing at TF 1128
65 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AP Meigs


Allied ground losses:
1329 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Coastal Guns at Wake Island, 82,63, firing at TF 1130
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TF 1130 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

TF 1130 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 82,63


2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AK Carlos Carrillo
PG Dawson


Allied ground losses:
334 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

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TF 1024 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

TF 1024 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 82,63


Allied Ships
DD Van Ghent

Coastal Guns at Wake Island, 82,63, firing at TF 1024

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported

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TF 1128 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

TF 1128 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 82,63


Allied Ships
MSW Turkey, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Oriole
MSW Tumult
MSW Sage
AP Van Diemen, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Coastal Guns at Wake Island, 82,63, firing at TF 1128
1 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AP Speelman


Allied ground losses:
1339 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Wake Island, 82,63, firing at TF 1130
TF 1130 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 82,63


1 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
165 casualties reported

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Sub attack at 88,76

Japanese Ships
SS I-38, hits 7, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
AK George Chaffey, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Outarde
MSW Nipigon
MSW Bungaree
MSW Maryborough
MSW Goulburn
MSW Burnie
AP Dardanus
AK Empire Darwin
AK Empire Faith
AK Josiah Royce
AK City of Rayville
AK Mormacmar
AP J. Franklin Bell
AP President Coolidge
MSW Agra
MSW Penguin
MSW Strive
MSW Latrobe
MSW Glenelg
MSW Cootamundra
DD Warramunga


Allied ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 3

I wonder where these guys are going.

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Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88


Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
Liberator VI x 136
P-40B Tomahawk x 29


Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
46 casualties reported

Port hits 5
Port supply hits 4

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Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88


Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 9
CW-21B Demon x 9
Brewster 339D x 11
B-25J Mitchell x 138


Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 201

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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 8


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on 53rd Division, at 82,63


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 365


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
584 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

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Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 28
G4M1 Betty x 2
G4M2 Betty x 4

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 23
F6F Hellcat x 86
F4U-1 Corsair x 67
Corsair IV x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 28 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 damaged

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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 2
LB-30 Liberator x 72

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 35

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Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 27
G4M2 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 23
F6F Hellcat x 76
F4U-1 Corsair x 59
Corsair IV x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 27 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 2 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 damaged


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Ground combat at Wake Island

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 19429 troops, 33 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 422

Defending force 178001 troops, 1753 guns, 310 vehicles, Assault Value = 2842



Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12425 troops, 401 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1933

Defending force 306884 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10500



Allied ground losses:
233 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Wake Island

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 137452 troops, 1663 guns, 125 vehicles, Assault Value = 2842

Defending force 23549 troops, 35 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 422

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Allied max assault: 3316 - adjusted assault: 2231

Japanese max defense: 240 - adjusted defense: 22

Allied assault odds: 101 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Wake Island base !!!


Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
17382 casualties reported
Guns lost 59

Allied ground losses:
1859 casualties reported
Guns lost 79
Vehicles lost 4



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RE: Wake falls - 1/24/2007 4:12:52 PM   
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Wake got pummelled by air and sea but managed to hold out for 2 days. Note to self: next time play the Allies



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"Bugs Bunny is my goal. Wile E. Coyote is my reality" - Chuck Jones



Since your avatar is Wile E. Coyote, these comments make since as you are playing the Japanese in '43 and should expect things to get worse. Ken will continue to bring the hammer until he entices you to bring out KB and Co. to play.

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RE: Wake falls - 1/24/2007 5:48:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		finally Wake falls. Some 25,000 japanese soldiers have retreated to the hills (if there are any on Wake). They will be taken care of in the coming weeks, but we have captured the prize....a level 5 air base.

The battle raged for 15 days...and here are the losses...

Allies
Sunk Ships
5 DD
5 SS
12 MSW
2 SC
1 LCI
1 LST
1 AP
5 AK
Will Likely Sink
1 CL
1 SS
1 AK
Damaged
1 CVL
4 BB
1 BC
3 CA
9 CL
1 CLAA
21 DD
11 SS
7 MSW
5 AP
15 AK

Japanese
Sunk
1 CV
1 CVE
6 CA
7 DD
2 SS
1 PT
1 ML
6 PG
2 PC
1 MSW
Will Probably Sink
1 DD
3 SS
1 PC
Damaged - unkown
*if Tom wants..he can fill me in on those numbers*

Plane Losses
Allies - 700 planes
Japan - 1600 planes

< Message edited by KDonovan -- 1/24/2007 11:03:19 PM >

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RE: Wake falls - 1/24/2007 6:23:09 PM   
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Some 25,000 japanese soldiers have retreated to the hills (if there are any on Wake).




Its smaller than some parking lots i've seen - and flat as a fritter... they japanese must be standing around on the reef or something...

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RE: Wake falls - 1/24/2007 6:33:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

quote:

Some 25,000 japanese soldiers have retreated to the hills (if there are any on Wake).




Its smaller than some parking lots i've seen - and flat as a fritter... they japanese must be standing around on the reef or something...


Flat as a fritter? Must be a Texas saying.

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RE: Wake falls - 1/24/2007 6:43:00 PM   
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quote:

quote:

Some 25,000 japanese soldiers have retreated to the hills (if there are any on Wake).




Its smaller than some parking lots i've seen - and flat as a fritter... they japanese must be standing around on the reef or something...


my 200,000 troops on the island must be treading water in the lagoon then .


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RE: Wake falls - 1/24/2007 6:48:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		i think as more and more PBEM games go into 43-44 you're gonna see some house rules for atoll stacking that is fair for both the defender and invader. I have yet to see any, nor think of any as of yet.



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RE: Wake falls - 1/24/2007 7:03:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KDonovan

Will Probably Sink - unknown
Damaged - unkown
*if Tom wants..he can fill me in on those numbers*



All the CVs will survive. Likely to sink are:

3 SS
1 DD
3 PC

About 1/2 of my CVs are damaged but since I am goofing off at work right now I don't have the actuall numbers in front of me.


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RE: Wake falls - 1/24/2007 7:04:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KDonovan

quote:

quote:

Some 25,000 japanese soldiers have retreated to the hills (if there are any on Wake).




Its smaller than some parking lots i've seen - and flat as a fritter... they japanese must be standing around on the reef or something...


my 200,000 troops on the island must be treading water in the lagoon then .



Total size of Wake = 6.5 sq miles, which gives a space 10 x 10 meters for each Allied soldier... if they don't have any equipment... and remove the airfield...

BTW - highest point on the island is 6 meters... the Japanese are probably hiding on that "hill"...

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RE: Wake falls - 1/24/2007 7:10:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		We aren't hiding on Wake, we are hiding IN Wake.

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RE: Wake falls - 1/24/2007 8:32:07 PM   
RUPD3658


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Status: offline 		After looking at Kenny's list of losses for both side I now think that I should not have contested the landings. Most of the Allied ships sunk were sunk by mines or coastal guns. My AC did little more the serve as target drones for the Hellcats and my surface ships got slaughtered when they encountered superior numbers and ship types.

I would have been batter to follow the advice of Sir Robin and just "Run Away!"

Now, with that said, the only positive to come out of this is that I learned that massed Bettys escorted by Zeros can get through the Allied CAP. We will soon learn what massed Bettys and Sally/Helens escorted by Zeros, Tonys, and Jacks can do.

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Post #: 733
RE: Wake falls - 1/25/2007 5:46:23 AM   
RUPD3658


Posts: 6922
Joined: 8/28/2002
From: East Brunswick, NJ
Status: offline 		2 base forces at Wake were destroyed by attrition. Interesting thing is that their fragments did not become new parent units. Those units that were destroyed in combat have started to reform elsewhere. Yet another game mechanic discovered by accident.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/10/43

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 115
Ki-49 Helen x 74

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
200 casualties reported

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 126

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Ground combat at Wake Island

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12949 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 198

Defending force 189051 troops, 1666 guns, 335 vehicles, Assault Value = 2654



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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12428 troops, 401 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1932

Defending force 306194 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10501



Allied ground losses:
142 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Wake Island

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4700 troops, 162 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2654

Defending force 14229 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 198


Japanese ground losses:
1338 casualties reported

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/11/43


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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 184
Ki-49 Helen x 115

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
216 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 177

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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12375 troops, 400 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1932

Defending force 305579 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10490



Allied ground losses:
417 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Wake Island

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4736 troops, 165 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2741

Defending force 12451 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 138


Japanese ground losses:
1448 casualties reported

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126th IJN Base Force Wiped Out at Wake Island by attrition!!!

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149th IJNAF Base Force Wiped Out at Wake Island by attrition!!!




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Post #: 734
RE: Wake falls - 1/26/2007 4:46:55 AM   
RUPD3658


Posts: 6922
Joined: 8/28/2002
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Status: offline 		Wake got cleared out. At least they died on their feet rather than starving.

Speaking of starving. Despite losing 1500 men at Chungking, the AV only went down by 7. I am having a Mongolian Cavalry unit (30 AV) make a suicide attack next turn to test what the adjusted AV is.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/12/43

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
DD Akigumo
DD Hagikaze
DD Arashio
DD Asagumo
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Hatsuharu
DD Ikazuchi
DD Asagiri
DD Akebono
DD Kamikaze
DD Hatakaze

Allied Ships
PT PT-159, Shell hits 24, and is sunk
PT PT-160
PT PT-161, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
PT PT-162, Shell hits 6, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
DD Akigumo
DD Hagikaze
DD Arashio
DD Asagumo
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Hatsuharu
DD Ikazuchi
DD Asagiri
DD Akebono
DD Kamikaze
DD Hatakaze

Allied Ships
PT PT-28
PT PT-29, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
PT PT-30, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
PT PT-42, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
PT PT-59, Shell hits 1
PT PT-60, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PT PT-237
PT PT-299

I am happy they did well against the PT boats but I was hoping to sink the minesweepers I spotted here a few days ago.
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Naval bombardment of Eniwetok, at 76,74

Japanese Ships
DD Hatakaze
DD Kamikaze
DD Akebono
DD Asagiri
DD Ikazuchi
DD Hatsuharu
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Asagumo
DD Arashio
DD Hagikaze
DD Akigumo


Allied ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

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TF 1124 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

Allied Ships

PT PT-364, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage sunk

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 142
Ki-49 Helen x 163

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
414 casualties reported

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 291

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 82
G4M2 Betty x 26

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 63

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Day Air attack on 83rd Chinese Corps, at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 10
Ki-49 Helen x 6

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on 51st Chinese Corps, at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 37
Ki-49 Helen x 15

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12377 troops, 399 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1933

Defending force 304593 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10501



Allied ground losses:
237 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Wake Island

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 161385 troops, 1635 guns, 231 vehicles, Assault Value = 2811

Defending force 10507 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 100

Allied max assault: 2621 - adjusted assault: 3277

Japanese max defense: 58 - adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 1092 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
19847 casualties reported
Guns lost 110

Allied ground losses:
147 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/13/43


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TF 1046 troops unloading over beach at Hollandia, 49,79



Allied ground losses:
118 casualties reported

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TF 1136 troops unloading over beach at Hollandia, 49,79



Allied ground losses:
1580 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 138
Ki-49 Helen x 161

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
290 casualties reported

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 248

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Day Air attack on Hollandia , at 49,79


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on 59th Chinese Corps, at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 18
Ki-49 Helen x 3

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on 79th Chinese Corps, at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 28
Ki-49 Helen x 15

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
83 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Hollandia , at 49,79


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12447 troops, 402 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1934

Defending force 304010 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10483



Allied ground losses:
402 casualties reported



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Post #: 735
RE: Wake falls - 1/26/2007 7:25:39 PM   
RUPD3658


Posts: 6922
Joined: 8/28/2002
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Status: offline 		Assault by a single unit at Chungking showed that the AV has indeed fallen over the last 10 months. Now the question is: Can it be taken? This is tough to answer since the AV seems to have hit some kind of support level. Despite losing about 1000 troops per 2 day turn the AV level reported on the combat report after bombardments is not moving.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/14/43

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TF 1136 troops unloading over beach at Hollandia, 49,79



Allied ground losses:
256 casualties reported

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TF 1136 troops unloading over beach at Hollandia, 49,79



Allied ground losses:
119 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 141
Ki-49 Helen x 165

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
104 casualties reported

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 271

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 76
G4M2 Betty x 27

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 28

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Day Air attack on 50th Chinese Corps, at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 14
Ki-49 Helen x 3

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on 25th Chinese Corps, at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 35
Ki-49 Helen x 20

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on 79th Chinese Corps, at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 12
Ki-49 Helen x 3

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 14131 troops, 415 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1932

Defending force 303022 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10476

Japanese max assault: 35 - adjusted assault: 0

Allied max defense: 8420 - adjusted defense: 22077

Not bad since it was close to 55,000 last November

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 9)


Japanese ground losses:
239 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
272 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Hollandia

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5989 troops, 32 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 83

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied max assault: 53 - adjusted assault: 45

Japanese max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 45 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Hollandia base !!!


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/15/43



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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12416 troops, 402 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1898

Defending force 302975 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10486



Allied ground losses:
285 casualties reported



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Post #: 736
RE: Wake falls - 1/27/2007 2:19:00 AM   
RUPD3658


Posts: 6922
Joined: 8/28/2002
From: East Brunswick, NJ
Status: offline 		Having everyone bombard at Chungking was not as effective as only having selected units bombard. Strange.

I lost a DD and Kenny lost an MSW that were previously damaged at Wake. A few more ships on both sides should sink before all the losses can be counted.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/16/43

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 89
G4M2 Betty x 27

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
120 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 49

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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 104863 troops, 1469 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1898

Defending force 302803 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10491



Allied ground losses:
103 casualties reported

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/17/43


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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 137
Ki-49 Helen x 168

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
242 casualties reported

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 151

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 87
G4M2 Betty x 26

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
48 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 35

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Day Air attack on 2nd New Chinese Corps, at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 26
Ki-49 Helen x 15

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
65 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on 79th Chinese Corps, at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 16
Ki-49 Helen x 6

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 104844 troops, 1469 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1902

Defending force 302180 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10462



Allied ground losses:
169 casualties reported



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Post #: 737
Strategic Review 101 - 1/27/2007 7:26:34 PM   
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Posts: 1157
Joined: 9/25/2005
From: New Jersey
Status: offline 		Decided to do a little update. Here how things stand as of Sept. 18, 1943......




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Post #: 738
RE: Strategic Review 101 - 1/29/2007 5:22:33 AM   
RUPD3658


Posts: 6922
Joined: 8/28/2002
From: East Brunswick, NJ
Status: offline 		Chungking must be some kind of alternate universe where up is down and more is less. Despite being pounded by close to 550 bombers and 3000 guns the number of men went up by 5000 and the AV went up by 20. Maybe if I just left it alone they would die.

I had sent some MLs to leave a present in Northern New Guina before Hollandia became operational. Well, it was a level 2 AF for less than 24 hours before it's planes sank 3 of my MLs.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/18/43

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 125
Ki-49 Helen x 129

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
336 casualties reported

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 201

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 84
G4M2 Betty x 26

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 68

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on 63rd Chinese Corps, at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 19
Ki-49 Helen x 6

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
31 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on 39th Chinese Corps, at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 29
Ki-49 Helen x 15

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 104901 troops, 1463 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1908

Defending force 307766 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10475



Allied ground losses:
67 casualties reported

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/19/43


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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 84
G4M2 Betty x 27

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 55

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on TF, near Biak at 46,77


Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 50
SBD Dauntless x 81
Boomerang II x 20
Kittyhawk III x 20
P-40N Warhawk x 32


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
ML Hoko, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
ML Niizaki, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
ML Ishizaki, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 105015 troops, 1465 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1911

Defending force 307514 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10483



Allied ground losses:
90 casualties reported



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Post #: 739
RE: Strategic Review 101 - 1/29/2007 8:43:23 PM   
RUPD3658


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From: East Brunswick, NJ
Status: offline 		Less is more at Chungking. I reduced the number of units attacking and stopped the air strikes. As a result the AV and numbers went down. I wonder if it has something to do with supplies being moved from the base into individual units that got damaged. At Buna I had a situation where there were supplies at the base but the units had none. The supplies would not moving into the units. Could be what is happening here.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/20/43

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12287 troops, 401 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1916

Defending force 307420 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10467



Allied ground losses:
263 casualties reported

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/21/43


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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12342 troops, 402 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1918

Defending force 307115 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10458



Allied ground losses:
222 casualties reported



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Post #: 740
RE: Strategic Review 101 - 1/30/2007 12:03:51 AM   
stldiver


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From: West Palm Beach, USA
Status: offline 		Supplies do not move to the units unless their requirments are less then what is at the base.

For example, If a base has 15k supplies and the units not attacked would draw 10k supply then they will always be in supply.
Now if they are bombed, attacked or they attack and their draw goes to 17k need, then at the end of the day they will not draw supply and thus you will see each unit start to have less then total supply.

If they are in this state for several days, the supplies at the base will stay at 15k, the first day that demand falls below the amount of supply at the base, then all units will be supplied.

In other words its all or nothing. This is what I have observed, so even though a base has supply it will only give it to the units if the total demand is less then the supply. Hope this helps in your analysis,

I enjoy your AAR

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Post #: 741
RE: Strategic Review 101 - 1/30/2007 5:18:48 AM   
RUPD3658


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Joined: 8/28/2002
From: East Brunswick, NJ
Status: offline 		Thanks for the analysis. I have been scoring 5-7 VP for ground losses every 2 day turn so this means that 60-72 Chinese squads are being destroyed or starving each 2 day turn. How their AV can go up under these circumstances is beyond me. Even getting 300 supplies per turn should not be able to stop the constant decline of the AV let alone increase it. I am beginning to think that the number on the combat report is subject to FOW.

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Post #: 742
RE: Strategic Review 101 - 1/30/2007 5:22:37 AM   
RUPD3658


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From: East Brunswick, NJ
Status: offline 		Kenny has begun the reduction of Rabaul by air. Should be a bloody fight when he lands there.

Chinese fighters respawned at Chungking and got destroyed on the ground. The troops there must have eaten the destroyed planes since their AV went up again despite the heavy air attack.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/22/43

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 9
Ki-36 Ida x 3

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
I-153c: 2 destroyed
SB-2c: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported

Runway hits 4

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 169
Ki-49 Helen x 248

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
I-153c: 6 destroyed
I-16c: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
366 casualties reported

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 315

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 9
Beaufighter VIF x 12
P-70A Havoc x 16
PV-1n Ventura x 23
B-25J Mitchell x 158


Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
259 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Airbase hits 35
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 200

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 173


Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
208 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Port hits 37
Port fuel hits 6
Port supply hits 6

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12459 troops, 403 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1921

Defending force 306077 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10456



Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/23/43


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TF 1050 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)

Allied Ships
AK Mintaka, Mine hits 1, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 192
Ki-49 Helen x 244

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
I-153c: 8 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
227 casualties reported

Airbase hits 21
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 208

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 9
Beaufighter VIF x 12
P-70A Havoc x 15
PV-1n Ventura x 22
B-25J Mitchell x 153


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
248 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 25
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 287

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 160


Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
172 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port hits 23
Port fuel hits 7
Port supply hits 11

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12456 troops, 404 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1921

Defending force 305888 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10461



Allied ground losses:
101 casualties reported



< Message edited by RUPD3658 -- 1/30/2007 5:35:17 AM >

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Post #: 743
RE: Strategic Review 101 - 2/1/2007 6:16:19 AM   
RUPD3658


Posts: 6922
Joined: 8/28/2002
From: East Brunswick, NJ
Status: offline 		Same as yesterday. Not much will happen until I attack Chungking or Kenny lands at Rabaul.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/24/43

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 7
Ki-36 Ida x 3

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 4

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 9
Beaufighter VIF x 12
P-70A Havoc x 16
PV-1n Ventura x 19
B-25J Mitchell x 154


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
171 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 23
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 286

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 158


Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
207 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Port hits 17
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12482 troops, 403 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1925

Defending force 305740 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10450



Allied ground losses:
396 casualties reported

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/25/43


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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 10
Ki-36 Ida x 3

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 6

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 125


Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
113 casualties reported

Port hits 6
Port supply hits 2

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1


No Allied losses


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12496 troops, 404 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1928

Defending force 304651 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10417



Allied ground losses:
517 casualties reported



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RE: Strategic Review 101 - 2/2/2007 6:06:37 PM   
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RE: Strategic Review 101 - 2/2/2007 7:25:39 PM   
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RE: Strategic Review 101 - 2/2/2007 8:18:52 PM   
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Did I ever arrest you?

Edit: Just checked records and I didn't.

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RE: Strategic Review 101 - 2/2/2007 9:31:15 PM   
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Yes, New Brunswick Divison, but don't tell anyone

Did I ever arrest you?

Edit: Just checked records and I didn't.


you would have to check The College of New Jersey Police Department for my record of misconduct at school

i make a point to underline the "The" in "The College of New Jersey", as everytime i tell people i went to school at The College of New Jersey, i get a question back in the form of "so which college in NJ?"

now i just need to figure out what 3658 means in your name....first guess would be Age 36, waist size 58

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RE: Strategic Review 101 - 2/2/2007 9:36:49 PM   
RUPD3658


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Status: offline 		Waist is not that bad yet and I turn 39 next month

It is my badge #. My e-mail is my initials and badge number.

Did you figure this out by "Googling" my name?

And by the way, I still think of your alma mater as either Stockton or Trenton State.

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