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RE: Desperate or Brilliant? RUPD3658 don't read - 4/28/2006 12:46:45 PM   
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after consulting with the wife


This statement caught my attention somehow...


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RE: Desperate or Brilliant? RUPD3658 don't read - 4/28/2006 2:25:36 PM   
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thanks niceguy .. never seen it ..and frankly doubt i ever will. It should be on my watch list as i like sci-fi as a rule but again maybe im getting old and grumpy



I recently saw it on HBO or one of the other pay channels, and can say it really stunk. I didn't even bother watching till the end. It appeared the movie was done 100% in computer graphics and the only real thing in the film were the actors.

Of course I'd love to have a couple of their sky carriers (CV's in the clouds) in WitP. But amphibious P-40's was just too much to take.

Jim


Yep, it was one of those all bluescreen movies.

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RE: Desperate or Brilliant? RUPD3658 don't read - 4/28/2006 6:30:49 PM   
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RE: Desperate or Brilliant? RUPD3658 don't read - 4/28/2006 6:35:53 PM   
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"It's from Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. Hookie retro sci-fi movie. Maybe the best done bad movie of all time."

thanks niceguy .. never seen it ..and frankly doubt i ever will. It should be on my watch list as i like sci-fi as a rule but again maybe im getting old and grumpy


You don't like the idea of Angelina Jolene in a tight uniform with an eye patch?

I'm a hopeless B movie fan as I can't stomach the formula style hollywood big budget pictures. I call them movies in a box...just add water and stir and whalla, you have tons of stylized action sequences and no plot. Anyway, I thought it was a decent Netflix rental.

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RE: Desperate or Brilliant? RUPD3658 don't read - 4/28/2006 8:43:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns


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ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK
thanks niceguy .. never seen it ..and frankly doubt i ever will. It should be on my watch list as i like sci-fi as a rule but again maybe im getting old and grumpy



I recently saw it on HBO or one of the other pay channels, and can say it really stunk. I didn't even bother watching till the end. It appeared the movie was done 100% in computer graphics and the only real thing in the film were the actors.

Of course I'd love to have a couple of their sky carriers (CV's in the clouds) in WitP. But amphibious P-40's was just too much to take.

Jim


Any P-40 that can fly from New York to Tibet with two people aboard without refueling most certainly is amphibious. It was a good old 50's style serial move ala "Terry and the Pirates"

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RE: Desperate or Brilliant? RUPD3658 don't read - 4/28/2006 10:10:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: String

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ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns


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ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK
thanks niceguy .. never seen it ..and frankly doubt i ever will. It should be on my watch list as i like sci-fi as a rule but again maybe im getting old and grumpy



I recently saw it on HBO or one of the other pay channels, and can say it really stunk. I didn't even bother watching till the end. It appeared the movie was done 100% in computer graphics and the only real thing in the film were the actors.

Of course I'd love to have a couple of their sky carriers (CV's in the clouds) in WitP. But amphibious P-40's was just too much to take.

Jim


Yep, it was one of those all bluescreen movies.


Part of the hype was the claim that it was the first big-budget Hollywood movie to use nothing but virtual sets, IIRC.

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RE: Desperate or Brilliant? RUPD3658 don't read - 4/28/2006 10:35:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		turn is done, and it looks like i should've taken Sting's advice....

as stated i went with the majority and retreated, i decided not to go for the transports as it wasn't worth the risk of losing my CV's going for a few AK's.

as it turned out, the japanese CV group, didn't move from its posistion at Rabual during the turn. So had I sent a surface TF of 2 BB's, 7 CA's, 6 CL's, I would've been able to force a surface action. With 2 days turns, he wouldn't be able to move his CV's when he saw the approach coming after the 1st day. I probably would've kept my CV's 7 hexes away to avoid his CV's from reacting to mine.

of course that is all "monday quarterbacking", and i'm not mad with the decision to retreat (as i was leaning towards that anyways, and just wanted someone to talk me into attacking), but it would've been an interesting turn had i turned an blind eye to the risk of such a mission.

But that is what is great about this game.....if this wasn't a 3-4 year game, and instead a 1 year game, i would've said "the hell with it, i'm going for it", but since you have to put some much time and energy into a PBEM, consequences of game play have a major impact, than would any other game out there.

anyways, i'll be saving the turn, and i'll ask Tom to do a replay for me sometime down the line, to see what would've had it had i gone for the risky surface action

thanks for the advice everyone

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RE: Desperate or Brilliant? RUPD3658 don't read - 4/29/2006 3:24:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have just started my first two PBEM's and one is "one a day" vs "two a day." I feel with the amount of time spent that two days per turn are best plus, it adds more FOG of War to the game and gets away from micromanaging too much. I have played games aginst the AI with 2 day turns and found it best. No more one day turns after this game.

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RE: Desperate or Brilliant? RUPD3658 don't read - 4/29/2006 3:58:28 AM   
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Part of the hype was the claim that it was the first big-budget Hollywood movie to use nothing but virtual sets, IIRC.


Except for "Tron", speaking of movies so bad they are good.

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RE: Desperate or Brilliant? RUPD3658 don't read - 4/29/2006 4:17:21 AM   
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turn is done, and it looks like i should've taken Sting's advice....

as stated i went with the majority and retreated, i decided not to go for the transports as it wasn't worth the risk of losing my CV's going for a few AK's.

as it turned out, the japanese CV group, didn't move from its posistion at Rabual during the turn. So had I sent a surface TF of 2 BB's, 7 CA's, 6 CL's, I would've been able to force a surface action. With 2 days turns, he wouldn't be able to move his CV's when he saw the approach coming after the 1st day. I probably would've kept my CV's 7 hexes away to avoid his CV's from reacting to mine.

of course that is all "monday quarterbacking", and i'm not mad with the decision to retreat (as i was leaning towards that anyways, and just wanted someone to talk me into attacking), but it would've been an interesting turn had i turned an blind eye to the risk of such a mission.

But that is what is great about this game.....if this wasn't a 3-4 year game, and instead a 1 year game, i would've said "the hell with it, i'm going for it", but since you have to put some much time and energy into a PBEM, consequences of game play have a major impact, than would any other game out there.

anyways, i'll be saving the turn, and i'll ask Tom to do a replay for me sometime down the line, to see what would've had it had i gone for the risky surface action

thanks for the advice everyone


Just because the TF didn't move (that you know) doesn't mean you could have forced a surface action. Getting forces in the same hex guarentees nothing.

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RE: Desperate or Brilliant? RUPD3658 don't read - 4/29/2006 4:18:42 AM   
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Part of the hype was the claim that it was the first big-budget Hollywood movie to use nothing but virtual sets, IIRC.


Except for "Tron", speaking of movies so bad they are good.


Did 'Tron' have any real sets at all? I'm pretty sure it did.

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RE: Desperate or Brilliant? RUPD3658 don't read - 4/29/2006 4:29:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, it had some real sets, at the beginning and at the end. And many of the scenes inside the computer had some basic blocky things and cardboard screens all around the place. But I was just remembering when Tron came out (1982, the same year I started working with an IBM PC) there was a multi-page article in Time talking about how the film was made and what a revolution in filmmaking it foretold.

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