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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/29/2006 3:46:49 PM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/29/2006 3:58:20 PM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/29/2006 3:59:14 PM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/29/2006 4:00:06 PM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/29/2006 4:00:53 PM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/29/2006 4:01:28 PM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/29/2006 4:02:20 PM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/29/2006 4:04:29 PM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/29/2006 8:17:00 PM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/29/2006 8:17:56 PM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/29/2006 9:03:02 PM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/29/2006 10:27:58 PM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/29/2006 10:29:08 PM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/29/2006 10:31:54 PM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/29/2006 10:32:45 PM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/29/2006 10:35:59 PM   
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I have alphabet envy.

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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/29/2006 10:38:41 PM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/29/2006 10:39:02 PM   
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It's too bad English doesn't have an cool letters. Like that double s thing, that looks like a "B" or that o with a slash thru it, or umlauts (or whatever you call them).

I have alphabet envy.

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Up until the '50s, we routinely used umlauts for some spelling - i can remember reading "cooperation" spelled with an umlaut over the second "o"... but i'm not sure that's what they called it ...

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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/30/2006 12:01:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Feinder

It's too bad English doesn't have an cool letters. Like that double s thing, that looks like a "B" or that o with a slash thru it, or umlauts (or whatever you call them).

I have alphabet envy.

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Yeah we have something like 8 more letters. Check these out.

í Í is like in beer
ú Ú is like in food
ő Ő is like in sir
ű Ű its like a german ü but long
ó Ó well not hard door
é É is like wait
á Á is like sign.

In hungarian you write everything like it is originally pronounced (in case of languages with no latin letters). Iszoroku Jamamoto, Müszasi, Hirjü, Dzüikakü (Zuikaku), gésa (). It sounds similar to japanese. No wonder they say we are their only relatives in Europe. No joke.

Other examples : Teng Hsziao Ping in english Deng Xiao Ping, or Gorbacsov vs Gorbachev. Some languages like mongol or turkish have similar vowels (?) like ü so Szübötej is Subotai in english.

But we dont have consonants th(at), and th(ing) and w(ave). Most of us promounce them like det, sing, and vait.

Imagine how hard it is to write a hungarian letter on a laptop with no extra keys!


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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/30/2006 2:24:59 AM   
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What method is standarized in your countries to get your national special letters?

In Poland, we use standard English keyboards, and we have acces to special letters by left alt (right is functionig normally, left is for Polish signs) and pressing at the same time letter.
(big letters by pressing also shift)
alt+a ą Ą (nasal a - like om in French Compiegne)
alt+c ć Ć (much softer Eng. tsch)
alt+e ę Ę (nasal e)
alt+l ł Ł (like English w in wood, note that Polish w is read as Eng. v)
alt+n ń Ń (much softer n)
alt+o ó Ó (like Eng. oo in wood)
alt+ś ś Ś (much softer sch)
alt+z ż Ż (Eng. zh)
alt+x ź Ź (much softer Eng. zh)



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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/30/2006 2:30:14 AM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/30/2006 3:00:06 AM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/30/2006 4:16:33 AM   
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It's too bad English doesn't have an cool letters. Like that double s thing, that looks like a "B" or that o with a slash thru it, or umlauts (or whatever you call them).

I have alphabet envy.

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Try grading some of my students' blue book finals. English never looked more Chinese.

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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/30/2006 5:27:20 AM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/30/2006 12:43:28 PM   
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It's too bad English doesn't have an cool letters. Like that double s thing, that looks like a "B" or that o with a slash thru it, or umlauts (or whatever you call them).

I have alphabet envy.

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Try grading some of my students' blue book finals. English never looked more Chinese.


Heh... Since they're now letting kids out of school (high and otherwise) without actually teaching them anything in the spelling, punctuation and grammar department, that rot is spreading. I've seen some horrific things with people in my business school...

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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/30/2006 1:02:17 PM   
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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/30/2006 4:02:44 PM   
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Heh... Since they're now letting kids out of school (high and otherwise) without actually teaching them anything in the spelling, punctuation and grammar department, that rot is spreading. I've seen some horrific things with people in my business school...


In another age, when preparing my BA Thesis on the 18th century Danish East-India Company, I read some of the logbooks of the Chinamen held at the Royal Danish National Archives.

One particular ship, the Charlotte Amalie, bound for Canton via Batavia, the Sumatra- and Indochina coast in 1781, went through four captains during its journey due to disease. Each captain had his own, idiosyncratic way of spelling. In Denmark at any rate, the idea of spelling in the modern, absolutist sense is a late 19th century one, intimately tied to the modern, centralised, one-size-fits-all state (as opposed to the essentially medieval, centrifugal society). In the case of Denmark, and most other state I would guess, the dialect spoken in and around the capital formed the basis the "correct" written language, at the expense of, fx, that spoken by myself and (I presume) Mr. T.

Spelling is a construct, if there ever was one.

The Charlotte Amalie incidentally was sold to the Navy in 1800 and subsequently used as a blockship in the defence of Copenhagen. Captured and burned, courtesy of the (British) Royal Navy, in the Battle of Copenhagen the following year. I'm sure Speedy's to blame somehow...


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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/30/2006 4:18:08 PM   
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Where do you teach?  Its been a while since I used my last blue book, but I practice in Dallas.


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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/30/2006 4:20:16 PM   
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Pasternakski,

Where do you teach?  Its been a while since I used my last blue book, but I practice in Dallas.





Another Dallas-ite! (Dallasonian?) Welcome to the community - quite a few WITP players in the Dallas area.

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RE: WitP patch 1.802!? - 6/30/2006 7:04:37 PM   
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I'm sure Speedy's to blame somehow...



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