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RE: WITP editor x - 10/7/2006 12:47:42 AM   
BigJ62


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ORIGINAL: CJ Martin

Found my first bug:

Aircraft screen, art on

Selecting any aircraft past index 244 (i.e. 245-249), the art will not update to match the bitmap number. Looks like only those last five slots have this issue.

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It's not really a bug, drawing is based on bitmap id, one of the devs posted this not long ago -

"WITP update Version 1.8.0.2 will include two features specifically for scenario modifiers:

1. Four additional sets of aircraft artwork.
Currently there are 249 aircraft but only 244 sets of aircraft artwork. We have found that we can easily
increase the aircraft artwork to 248. The additional artwork can be added as one more row in all three of
the allied aircraft artwork files. The new artwork will be for allied aircraft and will be bitmaps number
245-248. This will not affect stock scenarios or games in process but can be used by modders. Sorry,
we are not able to consider increases in Japanese artwork or beyond 248 total in this update.

2. Change in Task Force split (in editor).
Currently editor location slots 3500-3999 are used for Task Forces, with 3500-3899 for
Japanese (400 slots) and 3900-3999 for allied (100 slots). We are going to adjust this to be 250-250,
with 3500-3749 for Japanese and 3750-3999 for allied. Note that there are no changes to the editor - the
change will only affect how the scenario load routine recognizes the slots. This will not affect stock
scenarios or games in process. It should also have no affect on current modified scenarios as the
positions 3750-3899 do not appear to be used in any scenario."

however keep looking, as for listing LCUs I'll see what I can do.

Later

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/7/2006 2:18:33 AM   
CJ Martin

 

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Status: offline 		I'm not sure that is the problem, let me explain what I am seeing in more detail.

I am modding CHS to a mid-1943 start. As such CHS is my starting point. The aircraft file in CHS has index 244 as the Seafire III/XV, and the bitmap is also 244. This diplays correctly in the editor. Index 245 is the Wildcat VI, and uses bitmap 206. This does not display any art in the editor. Index 246 is the F4U-4, and uses bitmap 209. This also does not display any art. Same problem for the rest of the slots.

In no case are bitmaps 245-249 used, in fact I wasn't aware I could add that row (CHS doesn't use that row either).

Does that make sense?

-CJ

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/7/2006 2:40:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CJ Martin

I'm not sure that is the problem, let me explain what I am seeing in more detail.

I am modding CHS to a mid-1943 start. As such CHS is my starting point. The aircraft file in CHS has index 244 as the Seafire III/XV, and the bitmap is also 244. This diplays correctly in the editor. Index 245 is the Wildcat VI, and uses bitmap 206. This does not display any art in the editor. Index 246 is the F4U-4, and uses bitmap 209. This also does not display any art. Same problem for the rest of the slots.

In no case are bitmaps 245-249 used, in fact I wasn't aware I could add that row (CHS doesn't use that row either).

Does that make sense?

-CJ




I've noticed the same thing as well. However, I do think that this editor is an incredible improvement over the stock editor.

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/7/2006 6:03:30 AM   
BigJ62


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ORIGINAL: CJ Martin

I'm not sure that is the problem, let me explain what I am seeing in more detail.

I am modding CHS to a mid-1943 start. As such CHS is my starting point. The aircraft file in CHS has index 244 as the Seafire III/XV, and the bitmap is also 244. This diplays correctly in the editor. Index 245 is the Wildcat VI, and uses bitmap 206. This does not display any art in the editor. Index 246 is the F4U-4, and uses bitmap 209. This also does not display any art. Same problem for the rest of the slots.

In no case are bitmaps 245-249 used, in fact I wasn't aware I could add that row (CHS doesn't use that row either).

Does that make sense?

-CJ


You are right, I looked my code a little closer and noticed I was only drawing up to slot 244 and dismissing
the rest because of the bmp limitations, anyway I've since fixed this but not uploaded as yet.

Thanks

p.s. btw you will have to add that extra row manually with a paint prog.

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/7/2006 10:53:39 AM   
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Would you mind going into some detail with respect to the improvements you are planning to make to the ground formation editor? You are trying to add functionality to compare the LCU type with the TO&E entered for specific units, correct? Any other enhancements?

FWIW the more I work with the editor the more I am gratified by how much of an improvement it is over the official editors. By flagging errors it speed up the error-correcting aspect of things by several orders of magnitude. I think it is going to help people make far more mods.

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/7/2006 12:50:40 PM   
BigJ62


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BigJ62,

Would you mind going into some detail with respect to the improvements you are planning to make to the ground formation editor? You are trying to add functionality to compare the LCU type with the TO&E entered for specific units, correct? Any other enhancements?

FWIW the more I work with the editor the more I am gratified by how much of an improvement it is over the official editors. By flagging errors it speed up the error-correcting aspect of things by several orders of magnitude. I think it is going to help people make far more mods.


Thanks, what I'd like to do is put the Update Formations command into the Set LCU dialog that way you can choose exactly which units to update based on their TO&E id. Right now all you can choose is Japanese and or Allied. The Update Formations command searches for every unit that has a TO&E id and based on this id sets the type, suffix, nationality, exp, morale, symbol, unit type(1-3) and all weapons.

Later

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/7/2006 12:54:38 PM   
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Noticed this also happens with a/c slot 076 , the last Japanese a/c slot , it does not show the .bmp

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/7/2006 1:22:40 PM   
BigJ62


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ORIGINAL: Iron Duke

Hi,

Noticed this also happens with a/c slot 076 , the last Japanese a/c slot , it does not show the .bmp


I noticed this myself when I was mapping out the graphics place holders, according to the manual Japanese are assigned slots 1 - 75 and the Allies slots 76 - 249 however the first graphic in the allied art file refers to bitmap id 77 so, why is 76 skipped I do not know?

Later

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/7/2006 9:26:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I noticed some "bug crash" when try to copy and paste Ship classes. My versión is 0.956.
Anyone has the same problem? Will be solutioned?

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/7/2006 10:12:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Crashes sometimes - only sometimes - when using the search feature to find leaders. Sorry I can't be more specific.

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/8/2006 1:57:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: fremen

I noticed some "bug crash" when try to copy and paste Ship classes. My versión is 0.956.
Anyone has the same problem? Will be solutioned?


you have an old version download the newest one.

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/8/2006 1:58:22 AM   
BigJ62


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Crashes sometimes - only sometimes - when using the search feature to find leaders. Sorry I can't be more specific.


Ok thanks I'll check it out.

I found a problem not sure if it's the one you are having. When clearing out the edit control the app will
crash, I found this problem in all the views with a search function, it is now fixed to be included in the
next release(v0.9.6.1).


< Message edited by BigJ62 -- 10/8/2006 6:23:27 AM >

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/8/2006 7:15:23 PM   
BigJ62


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Status: offline 		New version 0.9.6.1 available. I've made several corrections and improvements and added a new feature, see my web site for more details. Any problems let me know.

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/8/2006 8:53:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just downloaded the new version. Great job and many thanks.
I noticed the ship classes now show the bmb side and shil files.
Would be very useful in the plane label, the screen also show the TOP_ALPHA.bmp and not only the Top.bmp. I have some problems to "center" the top plane when modding a new aircraft in the alpha file. If you see the top plane in the same form the game runs it can easily corrected.   

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/8/2006 11:01:04 PM   
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RE: WITP editor x - 10/8/2006 11:35:14 PM   
BigJ62


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ORIGINAL: fremen

I just downloaded the new version. Great job and many thanks.
I noticed the ship classes now show the bmb side and shil files.
Would be very useful in the plane label, the screen also show the TOP_ALPHA.bmp and not only the Top.bmp. I have some problems to "center" the top plane when modding a new aircraft in the alpha file. If you see the top plane in the same form the game runs it can easily corrected.   


Thanks, yes shouldn't be a problem. btw really like your subs.

< Message edited by BigJ62 -- 10/8/2006 11:39:13 PM >

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/8/2006 11:36:57 PM   
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Would it be possible to add a button to disable the sillhouette view on the ship screen? I like the view with the background but don't like the pinkish background and would like the option of not seeing it.


Yes, not a problem.

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/8/2006 11:38:02 PM   
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RE: WITP editor x - 10/8/2006 11:40:35 PM   
BigJ62


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

I can't say this enough: it's a FANTASTIC piece of work!


Thanks and I've still got a few more ideas that might make it easier to edit scenarios.

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/9/2006 12:22:00 AM   
CJ Martin

 

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Status: offline 		This really is awesome.

Here's my next tiny request - the "add/remove" button is great, and would be even better if when "removing" a unit it also set the location and commander to 000.

Having the units display is a great addition - thanks for adding that!

-CJ


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RE: WITP editor x - 10/9/2006 6:35:44 AM   
BigJ62


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This really is awesome.

Here's my next tiny request - the "add/remove" button is great, and would be even better if when "removing" a unit it also set the location and commander to 000.

Having the units display is a great addition - thanks for adding that!

-CJ




Originally that's how I had it. Removing units is the easy part as far as zeroing out the location and leader, adding them back in gets very tiresome when you have to renter the info, example - I wanted to mod one of the small scenarios and removed some of the units and thought better of it and decided to renter some of them back in the way they were so I had to open the original scenario in another editor and do each unit individually. I've tried various solutions to this problem but have never been satisfied with the results so, for the time being I'm going to leave it this way and let the user decide how best to aproach this problem. I am still trying to come up with better way and I think I might have the leader problem fixed but the location problem might be a bit of a bear.

Thanks

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/9/2006 2:01:46 PM   
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-CJ

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/9/2006 11:51:39 PM   
CJ Martin

 

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Status: offline 		I think I've stumbled across a nastly little bug -

Formation type "0" (zero) is not causing the unit to be ignored when updating a formation (the way the stock editor works). Instead, it seems anything with formation type 0 has its OOB wiped and replace by blank "support" in slots 11 & 16.

I discovered this after updating IJN/IJA units and later Witpchk reported all IJA/IJN HQ's and Forts had zero support. Whoops!

Also found a minor one - when setting the default "type" on the formation screen, what is set is one more than what is entered - example set type 11 (for engineers), pushing the button changes the field to type 12.

-CJ




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RE: WITP editor x - 10/10/2006 3:42:16 PM   
BigJ62


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ORIGINAL: CJ Martin

I think I've stumbled across a nastly little bug -

Formation type "0" (zero) is not causing the unit to be ignored when updating a formation (the way the stock editor works). Instead, it seems anything with formation type 0 has its OOB wiped and replace by blank "support" in slots 11 & 16.

I discovered this after updating IJN/IJA units and later Witpchk reported all IJA/IJN HQ's and Forts had zero support. Whoops!

Also found a minor one - when setting the default "type" on the formation screen, what is set is one more than what is entered - example set type 11 (for engineers), pushing the button changes the field to type 12.

-CJ





Yep was not validating formation id value 0, fixed in next release(v0.9.6.2). As for the minor
I'm not seeing the problem, type values are incorrect in main interface just like the original
editor, but in the Set LCU dialog those are the correct values, in other words go by the text
not the number, I guess I might have to change that to avoid confusion.

Thanks

In the next release the Type combo control in the Locations view will now reflect the true
value.


< Message edited by BigJ62 -- 10/10/2006 4:59:31 PM >

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/10/2006 5:13:30 PM   
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RE: WITP editor x - 10/13/2006 12:13:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		In the leader database when I enter the letter K in the search box the programme crashes.

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/13/2006 12:15:56 AM   
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RE: WITP editor x - 10/13/2006 7:36:10 AM   
BigJ62


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In the leader database when I enter the letter K in the search box the programme crashes.


Found the problem, now fixed and uploaded v0.9.6.4. I was using the wrong constant integer to
set the array size(copy and paste error).

Thanks

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RE: WITP editor x - 10/19/2006 2:04:10 PM   
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RE: WITP editor x - 10/20/2006 4:33:36 AM   
BigJ62


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Status: offline 		Thanks, right now I'm working on optimizing the application--God I hate M$--.

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