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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/18/2007 11:37:25 PM   
Rune Iversen


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Do you actually see these ethnic clean?


Not personally, no. I was still in basic back then.


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Do you know what is that?


Yes.

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Do you being here?


I didn´t manage to get a place in SFOR back when it was REALLY interesting, so no. I heard a thing or two though....


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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/18/2007 11:41:24 PM   
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Do you actually see these ethnic clean?


Not personally, no. I was still in basic back then.


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Do you know what is that?


Yes.

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Do you being here?


I didn´t manage to get a place in SFOR back when it was REALLY interesting, so no. I heard a thing or two though....



And what you heard?
And where?

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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 1:18:20 AM   
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I had a similar thing happen to me. The "block user" button does wonders.

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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 1:19:02 AM   
Rune Iversen


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And what you heard?
And where?



I heard that yelling "Nema Diesela" while pointing your weapon is a good way to discourage any Croat looters. As for where, you might be able to suss it out if I tell you that it involved weapons and was very active in the Balkans during the 90s

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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 1:31:09 AM   
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OMG
I had a similar thing happen to me. The "block user" button does wonders.


Good point Honda,from now this Danish idiot is banned forever.
He is just a little fascist and frustrated man.

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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 1:37:33 AM   
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He is just a little fascist and frustrated man.





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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 1:39:25 AM   
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He is just a little fascist and frustrated man.






says the guy with that sigpic and glorifying uncle Joe....




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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 1:40:07 AM   
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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 1:47:46 AM   
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Hehehe, I think we're expected to do a joke about hairy women or some such thing. We mustn't dissapoint the audience now, can we
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Yes,this button is magnificent.
Two morons less now,idiot Kerry and fascist Rune.


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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 1:50:45 AM   
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Yes,this button is magnificent.
Two morons less now,idiot Kerry and fascist Rune.



Hey Hawker you never got around to explaining why the "BEST EVAH EVAH!" failed so horridly against Israel.....

I am sure it has something to do with the magic design needing URAL power or something....

for an idiot I sure do have a better grasp of logic and history than you geniuses....



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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 1:52:02 AM   
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Yes,this button is magnificent.
Two morons less now,idiot Kerry and fascist Rune.



"Fascist"

An "odd" choise given your predilictions in sigline material.......


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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 1:54:47 AM   
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"Fascist"

An "odd" choise given your predilictions in sigline material.......




well a confused fella....he is in love with both the main totalitarian houses of the war, which is understandable given what went down....some day I will have to take a better plumb of the nations who managed to be on all sides of the conflict all at once....

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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 2:32:45 AM   
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As for insults Rune is at the bottom of the list in regards those compared to several people here calling him names. He routinely uses logic and more importantly FACTS, backed up by more than one source.

There are 2 posters in this last 2 pages that are a problem for other posters and it isnt Rune nor is it Sven.

Terminus WANTS the thread locked so he continues to freely defy the moderators and Admins. All in the hopes he gets what he wants. And two others have followed suit by creating from whole cloth an arguement that has no basis in fact. Accuseing Rune of ANYTHING and ignoring Terminus is perfect proof of the standard certain people have. Terminus is free to bad mouth, name call, insult and tell people to "blank" off and his two supporters are busy complaining that someone had the AUDACITY to reply.

If you REALLY want to be taken seriously I suggest you not be so openly onesided.

As for Rune and Sven, umm how long have you three been posting again? I suggest that those two have been here a LOT longer than you three. Claiming they just showed up is a hoot, or that they are not welcome is a laugh.

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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 4:20:37 AM   
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He routinely uses logic and more importantly FACTS, backed up by more than one source.


And spices the above up with insults. Then stirs it together until even he does not know where the whole thing started.

I cant tell you enough times that respecting the other even in a heated discussion brings rich dividents. Not respecting equals arrogance and arrogance means defeat.

"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle."


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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 4:35:58 AM   
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And spices the above up with insults. Then stirs it together until even he does not know where the whole thing started.



Quite the contrary I am fairly certain Rune and I are both aware where "it started" and am also quite certain that neither Rune nor I initiated the level of bile and hostility leveled at us. Seems having a different set of criteria for "best" means he, I, and others are 'idiots".

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ORIGINAL: Ursa MAior
I cant tell you enough times that respecting the other even in a heated discussion brings rich dividents. Not respecting equals arrogance and arrogance means defeat.



Mater Yoda is it more arrogant to make your points using logic, cites, and history or just yelling "best EVAH BEST EVAH!" as though that is in itself a rebutt...?

You'll notice that "evah" doesn't have an answer as to what happened in the Arab-Israeli war?
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"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle."



I'll have to go grab a few fortune cookies and a dimestore faux Feng-Shui book to put the above in context. I am certain you feel that you and Terminus are fufilling that imitation Jedi pap, I am betting some others are having quite the bout of titters over your view.

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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 5:01:06 AM   
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Quite the contrary I am fairly certain Rune and I are both aware where "it started" and am also quite certain that neither Rune nor I initiated the level of bile and hostility leveled at us. Seems having a different set of criteria for "best" means he, I, and others are 'idiots".


Well it is 3.50 AM here and I am lazy to dig up your 'We can be arrogant we have a scoreboard message' but this does not fit into what you imply above along with rune's first comment to my post starting with you are a nazi. You get back -bile and stuff- what you, Doggie and co started spitting. As of best the thread is called favorite.
IMHO if a weapon system makes the enemy scared beyond rational it is THE BEST since it has achived its purpose without even appearing on the battlefield see tank shock in WWI.

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Mater Yoda is it more arrogant to make your points using logic, cites, and history or just yelling "best EVAH BEST EVAH!" as though that is in itself a rebutt...?


No it is arrogant to state I can be arrogant, and attacking someone in person (Go and cleanse some serbs). "Funnier tho later admitting he does not really have a clue whta was it all about.

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I'll have to go grab a few fortune cookies and a dimestore faux Feng-Shui book to put the above in context. I am certain you feel that you and Terminus are fufilling that imitation Jedi pap, I am betting some others are having quite the bout of titters over your view.


I can be more direct and see I can post an opposing opinion without insulting your country (altough according to Doggie stating the the US is not No 1 in all areas is an INSULT in itself).

So just like my signature says if you dont respect your enemy you cannot really conquer him.

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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 5:49:18 AM   
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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 6:09:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		No I cant Puppy. You are the simplest thinking man I have ever met in my whole life so you stand out as the worst imaginable experience. Even in other sites' forums I mention you as how NOT to defend something. While even mdiehl has his merits by researching to support -even his very biased view-, you simply """"argue"""" with insults and hatred.

You know criticism does not equal hatred. Are you critical sometimes towards your children or family members or friends or colleagues or partners etc.? Or do you love them with a whatever you do you are my baby even if you burn the house on me type of monkey love?

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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 6:26:37 AM   
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No I cant Puppy. You are the simplest thinking man I have ever met in my whole life so you stand out as the worst imaginable experience. Even in other sites' forums I mention you as how NOT to defend something. While even mdiehl has his merits by researching to support -even his very biased view-, you simply """"argue"""" with insults and hatred.


Well, I'm confused. You critisize Doggie because he has no facts, yet you refute Sven, Rune, and mdiehl's factual arguments by emotional arguments, ie "the enemy had an irrational fear of such and such a weapon system so it is therefore the best."

Having said that, I do agree with your opinion that the panther was not a technilogical dead end but I also agree with Sven's view that it could only occur in some fantasy (nightmare) universe in which the Nazi's somehow won the war.

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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 7:32:14 AM   
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Well, I'm confused. You critisize Doggie because he has no facts, yet you refute Sven, Rune, and mdiehl's factual arguments by emotional arguments, ie "the enemy had an irrational fear of such and such a weapon system so it is therefore the best."


Could be my bad english. It was my mistake to mix the weapons in.
What I wanted to say that Rune, mdiehl and co, mix their arguments with insults while Doggie does not even bother with arguments. Hope that clears.

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Sven's view that it could only occur in some fantasy (nightmare) universe in which the Nazi's somehow won the war.


Dear Gawd! Where did I even hinted that I was NOT happy with the fall of the nazis?

1. Nazism is an extremism as comunism and I HATE both.
2. Hitler hated the hungarians, so it could have been EVEN worse for us than communism. Not that it could have been SIGNIFICANTLY worse, but human evil is limitless.



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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 11:08:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dear sirs, madams,

I thought this thread was about "your favorite WWII tank".

Now it has turned into a stupid argument with no value!!

Why?

Lack of knowledge of WWII armored warfare????

The Tiger I still RULES!!!!!

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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 1:55:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ursa MAior

And spices the above up with insults. Then stirs it together until even he does not know where the whole thing started.


Too much honour sir

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I cant tell you enough times that respecting the other even in a heated discussion brings rich dividents. Not respecting equals arrogance and arrogance means defeat.



Practice what you preach then.....

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"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle."



He only employs his passion who can make no use of his reason.
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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 2:10:19 PM   
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IMHO if a weapon system makes the enemy scared beyond rational it is THE BEST since it has achived its purpose without even appearing on the battlefield see tank shock in WWI.


http://www.inexistentia.net/nuke.jpg



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Funnier tho later admitting he does not really have a clue whta was it all about.




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So just like my signature says if you dont respect your enemy you cannot really conquer him.





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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 2:11:21 PM   
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The very idea that Rune and Sven are worse than Terminus is ludicrouis on its face. Terminus STARTS his postings in threads demanding people shut up, go away, quit posting and/or calling them names and using personal insults. His entire "logic" is that if he tries hard enough he can get a thread locked by being the bigges "ass" in the thread. It is simply amazeing how Terminus gets a pass while any response of those attacked is then labeled as the "problem" poster.

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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 2:12:38 PM   
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It is simply amazeing how Terminus gets a pass while any response of those attacked is then labeled as the "problem" poster.


He is on the developing team of a few of the games here. That might explain it

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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 2:17:35 PM   
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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 2:20:05 PM   
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Read my signature properly, you blithering IMBECILE! I'm a beta tester, not a developer...




Temper, temper.....

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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 2:27:34 PM   
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Read my signature properly, you blithering IMBECILE! I'm a beta tester, not a developer...




Temper, temper.....


silly Rune "Imbecile" is a term of endearment where he comes from....


remember we are the flamethrowing monsters not poor, poor terminal....


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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 2:31:09 PM   
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silly Rune "Imbecile" is a term of endearment where he comes from....


remember we are the flamethrowing monsters not poor, poor terminal....



Well

"That´s different...."




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RE: What is your favorite WWII tank? - 2/19/2007 2:38:51 PM   
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ALL ABOARD!!!!!!!!!!

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