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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/19/2007 1:14:42 AM   
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Hurry up and wait.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/19/2007 10:11:55 PM   
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The young ensign turns the binoculars away from Sulawesi and its birds and goes back to scanning sea and sky. His thoughts today are confused. He had braced himself for an ordeal yesterday, fully expecting that the fleet would come under air attack.


Hmm. I'm a little surprised there is no report of heavy bombers from Broome. You'd think the Allies would start attrition tactics as soon as possible if they're planning to rescue their stranded troops. Unless another blow is being planned elsewhere . . .

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/20/2007 2:38:59 AM   
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January 25, 1943

Location: 40 miles southeast of Macassar
Course: Holding position
Attached to: TF 72
Mission: Air Combat
System Damage: 2
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 275

Orders: Protect reinforcement convoys approaching Timor.

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Heavy rain falls across Timor, Sulawesi, and much of the rest of the former Dutch East Indies. It falls on the soldiers of the Japanese 55th division, still filing aboard the transports at Soerabaja. It turns the hills and ridges of Timor to mud, bogging down and soaking the troops on both sides. And it runs in rivulets off destroyer Hibiki, the water turning salty even before it reaches the sea below as it washes away the salt deposits left behind by waves and spray.

Captain Ishii looks out past rain-streaked glass at the rest of the task force. He can only see the nearest ships; the rest, even the carriers, are lost to view in the downpour. There can be little question of carrier operations under these conditions. It would almost constitute a day off for Ozawa’s ships if it were not for enemy submarines. The rain might help conceal the Japanese ships from the submarines, true, but it also makes it much easier for any submarine that discovers them to close to firing range undetected. Around the ship the lookouts stand stoically in the rain, concerned only with keeping the lenses of their binoculars clear as they scan the gray seas.

On the bridge there is muted activity. Men go about their duties, speaking occasionally, but otherwise the quiet is only broken by the muffled sound of the rain and waves and the noises made by various pieces of equipment.

For all that he has grown increasingly impatient with the monotony of the endless patrols of the last couple of months Captain Ishii is feeling surprisingly calm on this quiet, rainy day. He thinks it very likely that Hibiki will be in battle soon, and he is content to wait. Forces beyond his control are in motion now, and what will happen will happen. He is an old campaigner and does not worry about things beyond his reach.

Perhaps it is the rain, he thinks. It reduces the vastness of the Pacific to a single ship, and over this small part of the world he does have control. He stands on the bridge and is aware of everything going on around him. At times like these he almost feels as though Hibiki is an extension of himself, as responsive to his will as his own hands.

Or perhaps, he thinks, this is merely hubris and his idea that he firmly controls 397 feet of warship and almost 200 crew just an illusion. One thing that warfare and the sea seem to him to have in common is that both are always moving and full of random events and surprises that seem to defy efforts to control or understand them, however much one may try.

Whatever surprises the days ahead hold, however, Ishii feels ready for them. Man and ship, the captain and Hibiki continue their patrol while the rain pelts down.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/20/2007 2:45:22 AM   
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Even waiting days are interesting to read.
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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/20/2007 3:49:15 AM   
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Just gets better and better. Keep up the good work brother.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/21/2007 3:13:52 AM   
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January 26, 1943

Location: 40 miles southeast of Macassar
Course: Holding position
Attached to: TF 72
Mission: Air Combat
System Damage: 2
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 474

Orders: Protect reinforcement convoys approaching Timor.

---

The plodding tankers that Hibiki last saw off of Amboina have caught up with the carriers. With the 55th division now aboard their transports and moving down the Java Sea towards Timor Admiral Ozawa orders his destroyers to refuel in order to be ready for action. If the Allies decide to challenge the approach of the convoy the Japanese fleet will need to be free to maneuver without worrying about how much fuel the destroyers have in their tanks.

Hibiki is among the first to refuel. The operation goes smoothly and afterwards Hibiki stands off to watch for submarines while the next destroyer comes alongside the oiler. No submarines or enemy aircraft seem to have found the Japanese fleet since they withdrew from Timor towards Sulawesi, but no one wants to take any chances. Every ship may be needed in the days ahead.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/21/2007 3:15:27 AM   
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January 27, 1943

Location: 40 miles southeast of Macassar
Course: Holding position
Attached to: TF 72
Mission: Air Combat
System Damage: 2
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 444

Orders: Protect reinforcement convoys approaching Timor.

---

The rain has stopped, though the skies remain overcast. The air is warm, humid, and still. The sea is calm, and Hibiki’s wake trails long and clear through the low, smooth swells.

Shiro is off duty, and as is his habit is sitting on deck carving. He is not making shogi pieces this time, but is instead using his small, sharp knife on a piece of driftwood. The shape of the wood has suggested a creature to him, and he is using his knife to carefully tease the form out of its surroundings.

His concentration is such that he does not notice that Captain Ishii has approached and is now standing nearby watching him work. He might not have noticed anyway; the captain has some of Chief Petty Officer Shun’s ability to remain unseen when he wishes.

At length the captain clears his throat. Shiro looks up and then jumps to his feet. He swiftly transfers the carving and knife to his left hand and salutes with the right.

“Relax, son,” says Captain Ishii. He extends his hand. “May I see that?” he says, indicating the carving. Shiro dutifully hands it over. The captain takes it and turns it over in his hands, examining it.

The carving is of a shark. It is in a curved posture, and its underbelly merges with the bulk of the piece of wood beneath it, as though it is rising out of the wood. It is still unfinished, but is nonetheless evocative of the creature’s grace and power. Ishii nods approvingly and hands it back.

“A blacktip reef shark,” he says. Startled, Shiro nods. They are relatively small sharks, not dangerous, and he and the rest of the crew have seen a great many of them during their stay in southern waters. Shiro had not thought, however, that the carving was done enough to allow anyone to guess the particular kind of shark he was carving.

“One of them bit me once,” says Ishii, as if guessing his thoughts. “It was my fault, I was wading and stepped on it. I still have the scars, though,” he adds. “Do you like sharks, Seaman Kuramata?”

“Well, yes sir, I guess I do,” says Shiro. “Or I admire them, rather. They aren’t really all that likeable.” Captain Ishii smiles.

“They resemble destroyers, I think,” he says, looking around at Hibiki. “Sleek and graceful, made for attack and with lots of teeth. Perhaps that is why I feel an affinity for them.” Shiro thinks about this over for a moment. Many of the enlisted men he knows have no real feeling for the sea, and view it and the creatures in its depths with some suspicion. The captain, though, chose a life at sea and has spent most of his life around the water.

“Yes sir,” is what he contents himself with saying, however.

“I’ll let you get back to your carving,” says the captain. He nods and strolls off. Shiro brushes away some wood chips and sits back down. He squints up at the sky for a moment, decides that it does not look as though it will rain soon, then takes the knife and carefully shaves away another piece of wood.


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/21/2007 7:34:22 AM   
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Hibiki as shark.  An appropriate analogy, though I have often thought the submarine to be the closest thing to the great ocean hunters.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/23/2007 9:35:17 PM   
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January 28, 1943

Location: 40 miles southeast of Macassar
Course: Holding position
Attached to: TF 72
Mission: Air Combat
System Damage: 2
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 411

Orders: Protect reinforcement convoys approaching Timor.

---

From the diary of Petty Officer Third Class Taiki Takahashi:

I hear that we will remain here a couple of more days, then rendezvous with the troop transports and cover them as they head into Timor. There are going to be more convoys coming in, but the others are all farther out. One of the officers said that if the enemy is going to try and stop us they will do it now, before these first troops can get ashore.

It’s kind of odd. I am never scared during a battle. Or rather I am terrified but in almost a calm way, if that makes any sense. There is just too much to do for me to pay attention to how scared I am. But before a battle I always feel shaky. In a way it’s easier with the attacks that you don’t expect, though I know that rationally these attacks are worse. But sitting around knowing the enemy is probably going to try and kill us in a few days is a little nerve-wracking.

Of course I know that unless things go really wrong we won’t see an enemy ship. This battle will most likely be fought with planes. But certainly we aboard Hibiki know how terrible being under air attack can be. My gun crew is as ready as I can make them, though. The only thing left is the waiting part. I hate the waiting part.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/23/2007 9:36:11 PM   
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Location: 40 miles southeast of Macassar
Course: Holding position
Attached to: TF 72
Mission: Air Combat
System Damage: 2
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 386

Orders: Protect reinforcement convoys approaching Timor.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/23/2007 9:38:06 PM   
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January 30, 1943

Location: 240 miles north-northwest of Koepang
Course: Southeast
Attached to: TF 72
Mission: Air Combat
System Damage: 2
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 342

Orders: Protect reinforcement convoys approaching Timor.

---

The Japanese carrier groups move towards Timor once again. They meet and overtake the troop convoy, 15 transports led by the light cruiser Kuma and shepherded by several destroyers. Aboard are some 20,000 men of the Japanese 55th division.

It will take the transports another two days to reach Koepang, and from this point on they could be spotted by far ranging enemy search planes at any time. Few aboard the Japanese ships have any doubt that this will provoke a reaction from the Allies. There is also a good chance that the enemy will see the carriers too, but this can’t be helped. The troops have got to reach Timor if the enemy is to be stopped from eventually capturing Koepang.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/23/2007 9:39:50 PM   
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Location: 100 miles north of Koepang
Course: Holding position
Attached to: TF 72
Mission: Air Combat
System Damage: 2
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 311

Orders: Protect reinforcement convoys approaching Timor.

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Hibiki and the other Japanese warships slip through the Ombai Strait between Timor and Alor Island and into the Savu Sea. The rain has returned, and gray curtains of it hang over the long, low swells. The rain hides the carriers and their escorts and also cloaks the troop ships, which transit the Ombai Strait in their turn but then turn south and head into Koepang.

The rain is timely and its presence is blessed by the Japanese soldiers crowded aboard the ships. It is something of a mixed blessing, of course, because it also blinds the Japanese to what is happening in the ocean between Timor and Australia. Search planes go out, but no enemy ships are seen. Under the conditions, however, it does not mean they are not out there.


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/23/2007 9:41:39 PM   
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February 1, 1943

Location: 100 miles north of Koepang
Course: Holding position
Attached to: TF 72
Mission: Air Combat
System Damage: 2
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 280

Orders: Protect reinforcement convoys approaching Timor.

---

Lieutenant Miharu steps out onto one of the observation wings off the bridge and looks up at the clearing skies. Patches of sunlight dapple the water and reveal the three large carriers steaming off Hibiki’s port side. He is joined after a moment by Captain Ishii, who has little trouble guessing the lieutenant’s thoughts.

“The enemy scouts on Koepang will see the transports in the harbor,” he says, “even if their planes do not. I think we can expect a reaction by tomorrow at the latest.”

“Is there any sign the enemy has seen us, sir?” asks Miharu. Captain Ishii shakes his head.

“No,” he says, “but of course that does not mean they don’t know we are here. We can hope they remain blind to our presence, but we can’t count on that. There is still enough cloud cover that a search plane could spy on us and remain unseen. And of course any submarine in these relatively constricted waters could scarcely fail to note such a collection of ships.” The two men stand looking out at the rest of the task force for a moment.

“Shouldn’t you be getting some sleep, Exec?” asks the captain after a bit.

“Yes, I know,” says Lieutenant Miharu. “I should try. It might be difficult, though.”

“Try,” says Captain Ishii. “I’ll want you alert if something happens.”

“Yes sir,” says the lieutenant. He goes back inside and heads below. On the way to his cabin he meets and talks to several of the crew. Whatever restless nerves the lieutenant might have he radiates confidence as he speaks to them, and the men he talks to are heartened to know that the ship’s officers know exactly what is going on and have no doubt that any enemy who ventures close will be destroyed.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/23/2007 10:20:11 PM   
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Action approaching!

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/23/2007 10:21:44 PM   
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Much gunplay, hopefully... And another battle star (or the IJN equivalent, at least) for the Hibiki!

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/24/2007 2:31:33 AM   
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Ah, finally after our waiting CF continues to weave his tale.  This time he leaves us on the brink as we expect all hell to break loose. 

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/24/2007 2:32:53 AM   
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Can't you just see that the fleet sails in, unloads the troops, and sails straight home again, without so much as seeing the enemy?

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/24/2007 2:40:10 AM   
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February 2, 1943

Location: 100 miles north of Koepang
Course: Holding position
Attached to: TF 72
Mission: Air Combat
System Damage: 2
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 224

Orders: Protect reinforcement convoys approaching Timor.

---

Captain Ishii awakens early and goes immediately to the bridge. He has a feeling in his bones about this day and is filled with restless energy. He takes his breakfast on the bridge, and does not chide Lieutenant Miharu when his executive officer does not head below after transferring command back to the captain. There will be time for sleeping later.

The captain looks out at the sea. The weather has moderated to some extent, though clouds still cover most of the sky. The glass is steady. Captain Ishii notes that the eastern horizon is free of clouds and that the rising sun is casting a long track of light across the waves towards the Japanese ships. He hopes it is a good omen.

---

Japanese submarine I-122 has spent the night laying mines off Broome on the Australian coast. As the sun rises the submarine, mission accomplished, is already some 70 miles out to sea and heading back towards Singapore. The commander orders the submarine to periscope depth for a look around and is startled to see a large transport convoy heading northwest. It is heavily escorted. With few torpedoes aboard he makes the intelligent decision not to attack, but instead radios in a report of what he has just seen.

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The Japanese airfield at Koepang is battered but operable. As the sun comes up some 60 Zero-sen fighters, flown in from Kendari late yesterday afternoon, begin to warm up their engines. The pilots eat a quick breakfast, aware that they will not have much warning before the expected enemy bombers arrive.

---

Captain Ishii almost jumps when the excited voice comes through the speaking tube from the radio room, but suppresses the urge to manages to look calm and collected in front the rest of the bridge crew.

“Captain, sir!” says the voice. “I’m getting a report from a D3A from Kaga. He is broadcasting that there are many enemy ships, including battleships and aircraft carriers, 225 miles southeast of Koepang. He says they are already launching planes, sir!”

“Thank you, radioman,” says Ishii. “Please continue to keep me informed. Ensign Handa, tell the lookouts to keep an eye on Shokaku. I expect Admiral Ozawa will be communicating orders to us shortly.”

---

Admiral Ozawa and his staff are bending over a map in Shokaku’s chartroom. The sighting puts the enemy carriers some 300 miles from the Japanese ships. That is barely within range of his aircraft, though the torpedo bombers will not be able to carry torpedoes that far. He orders the carriers under his command to switch their B5N torpedo bombers from torpedo to bomb loads and to prepare to launch planes.

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Half an hour later comes the order that Captain Ishii has been waiting for. All carriers and their escorts are to come about on a southwesterly course and launch planes. Hibiki joins the other Japanese ships in changing course. Nine Japanese carriers in three task forces scattered across 40 miles of ocean begin to launch their planes.

Captain Ishii orders the Hibiki to combat stations. If he has figured it correctly enemy planes should begin arriving in about another half an hour.

---

As the morning advances the transports at Koepang continue to unload. They have been at it for almost 36 hours now, and despite the inadequate facilities the work has gone swiftly, largely because the ship’s crews are gripped by a sense of urgency. Already almost all the troops are ashore, though a lot of their supplies and gear remain aboard.

Suddenly a siren begins to wail from the harbormaster’s office. An officer runs down to the dock, yelling and gesticulating at the ships. His message spreads quickly – all ships are to cast off at once, enemy air attack is imminent.

The lumbering transports frantically begin to obey. Already light cruiser Kuma and four destroyers are racing for the harbor entrance. The channel beyond is narrow, but provides much more room to maneuver than the harbor.

Kuma has not quite cleared the harbor mouth when a steadily growing drone can be heard to the southwest. Breaking through the clouds in neat echelons are over 200 American carrier planes. A few anti aircraft guns open fire, though the enemy is still well out of range.

A cheer rises from the harbor as some 45 Japanese fighters from the nearby airbase suddenly appear and tear into the American formation. The enemy F4F fighters are taken off guard, and some of them are quickly shot down. The rest recover, however, and fight back. The Japanese pilots are good but are heavily outnumbered, and they soon find themselves fighting for their lives. The Wildcats force the Japanese planes away from the bombers, who begin their attack runs on the ships in the harbor.

Kuma comes under attack first. The cruiser twists and turns, surrounded by geysers of water from near misses. Then the first of several bombs strikes her, followed quickly by the next. As the light cruiser slows she takes two torpedo hits on the starboard side, one near the bow and one amidships. The burning ship comes to a stop and begins to sink.

The nimble destroyers escape unscathed, but the transports in the harbor are easy marks. Dive bombers score one or more hits on half a dozen of them, and soon columns of thick smoke from the stricken ships rises high in the air over Koepang.

---

The radio reports from Koepang reach the Japanese carrier task forces shortly after the last air groups have formed up and departed in the direction of the American carriers. On Hibiki’s bridge even Captain Ishii stares in astonishment at what he has just heard from the radio room.

“Enemy carrier planes attacking Koepang?” he says. “That doesn’t make any sense at all!”

“Unless the enemy has no idea we are here,” says Lieutenant Miharu. Captain Ishii considers this.

“They should at least be picking up our radio signals by now, though,” he says. “It must be that they learned too late, or could not change the target of their strike for some reason.” Ishii is a destroyer man and not versed in air combat. It does not occur to him that the Japanese carriers are currently out of range of the American carrier planes.

“Or they may have launched more than one strike,” muses the lieutenant.

“Cocky bastards, if so,” snorts Ishii, “to attack the transports before dealing with us.”

---

The main force of the Japanese strike, launched from the six carriers that carried out the attack on Pearl Harbor and fought the Battle of the Phoenix Islands, finds a task force of two American carriers. There are a lot of Wildcats over the enemy task force, but even more Japanese fighters. As fierce air battles rage the Japanese bombers bore in on their targets.

Aboard Hibiki they listen to the radio signals from the Japanese planes, and are elated with what they hear. Two enemy carriers receive multiple bomb hits, and both are left burning.

The next news is not as good. The B5N and D3A bombers from Hiyo, Junyo, and Ryujo have gotten separated from their fighter escort in the overcast and find themselves facing some very angry and motivated American fighter pilots. They press their attack bravely, though, and even though over 20 are shot down they score more hits on the burning carriers. Some 43 Zero-sen fighters arrive about 15 minutes later shepherding three stray bombers they have found, and the fighters take some measure of revenge against the Wildcats.

The Japanese planes return to their carriers, where they refuel and rearm. The next strike is smaller but still powerful, and finds a third American carrier. This carrier too receives multiple hits, and is also left burning.

The planes scouting for more targets report that there are still enemy fighters in the air. This argues that there are more enemy carriers in the area, but if so they cannot be located.

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Admiral Ozawa looks out at the planes returning to Shokaku. He is aware that one enemy carrier, the Wasp, has already sunk, and that Saratoga and Enterprise are now drifting, burned out hulks. The Japanese carriers have lost around 100 planes, but the ships themselves have not even been attacked. It is as complete a victory as one could wish for.

The American fleet is now retreating towards Australia, and Ozawa faces a difficult decision: pursue the fleeing enemy or hold his position. As the afternoon wanes he orders a strong fighter patrol placed over the carriers and calls his staff together for consultation.

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The last strike has returned to the carriers. News of the victory has spread through Hibiki like wildfire, and most of the crew has come out on deck to watch the returning planes.

From the mast of Shokaku a single pennant is raised. As it streams out in the wind every man in the fleet can read it: “Victory”.

From the destroyer ahead a shout rolls out across the water, so loud it can be heard aboard Hibiki. Not to be outdone Hibiki’s crew takes up the shout. From every throat the crew roars back, and the sound carries to the next ship in line.

Aboard Shokaku Admiral Ozawa looks up and cocks his head as if listening, then steps out onto one of the platforms off the bridge. From all around he can hear the men of the task force shouting, and the sound of it seems loud enough to him to carry across the Savu Sea all the way to Timor. He is not ashamed of the tears that suddenly sting his eyes as he listens to them.

“Banzai!”

“Banzai!”

“BANZAI!”

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/24/2007 2:45:52 AM   
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Banzai indeed...

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/24/2007 3:56:45 AM   
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Who needs Harry Potter when you've got Hibiki and Cuttlefish!

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/24/2007 3:57:56 AM   
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Who needs Harry Potter, full stop...

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/24/2007 5:37:30 AM   
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That's what I meant!

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/24/2007 8:03:56 AM   
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Great victory, especially since it's already Feb 1943!!!

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/24/2007 3:55:58 PM   
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Looks like Cuttlefish's opponent is getting the same kind of spanking I'm getting from Halsey.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/24/2007 4:19:47 PM   
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The sharp sword begins to dull with the loss of so many well trained air crews.  How much damage was done to the merchantmen and are there enough supplies for the troops who've already landed?  This victory is not complete....CF continues to leave us with baited breath awaiting the next installment.



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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/24/2007 6:40:37 PM   
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Hummmm.....with the loss of a US carrier and two others seriously damaged, if not lost, I'd have to say that there will be more than adequate time for the IJN CV air arm to equipment and retrain new pilots for the next major CV engagement. The sword may have been dulled by its good works, but, now, the US risks losing the war to intervene again with CVs at Timor.

By any measure, this was a significant victory for the IJN. Follow up convoys will bring more troops and more supply to the fracas on Timor. The Allied troops there may be able to hang on for a long time, but they will not take Koepang unless they are significantly and quickly reinforced.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/24/2007 10:38:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Can't you just see that the fleet sails in, unloads the troops, and sails straight home again, without so much as seeing the enemy?


Aren't you glad to be wrong?

Cuttlefish does his usual thrilling job of reporting -- and leaves us in suspense about the pursuit.

Meanwhile, I imagine Wolffpack -- ahem, the Americans -- have learned the value of land-based air support. It looks like a number of Yanks and Aussies are destined for the POW camps.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/24/2007 11:05:55 PM   
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Very happy to have been wrong...

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/24/2007 11:15:23 PM   
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You -have- to trade air-crews for carriers.  You certainly aren't going to -ever- have the luxury of trading crap crews for enemy CVs, they woulnd't be hitting much less getting thru CAP in the first place.

Trading 100 experienced crews for 1 CV confirmed sunk, and 2 others potentially, is well-worth the cost.  As previously said, train some more aircrews.  By the time CF sees the enemy CVs again in any measure, he'll have far replaced those pilots.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 7/24/2007 11:28:34 PM   
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Trading 100 experienced crews for 1 CV confirmed sunk, and 2 others potentially, is well-worth the cost. As previously said, train some more aircrews. By the time CF sees the enemy CVs again in any measure, he'll have far replaced those pilots


Precisely. Just about this time in the game, Halsey attacked Suva with KB#1 (He has 2 of them) He lost a lot of fighters over Suva, so I countereattacked with Essex and Wasp. The first day saw Essex' SB2Cs score hits on three Japanese carriers, but at the cost of Essex that drew the brunt of the Japanese response. His carrier pilots despite the attrition were able to stop enough of my bombers that the damage wasn't that great. Wasp' bombers barely made it through the CAP and scored no hits the next day. Despite heavy loses, the Japanese torpedo bombers and dive bombers sent Wasp to the bottom the next day.

Morale of the story: A sunk carrier is a sunk carrier!

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