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RE: Scenario Data - 5/17/2007 11:37:23 AM   
Shannon V. OKeets

 

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ORIGINAL: composer99
On topic, I've noticed that the light cruisers have their "standard" WiF designation (CL) and the raiders have theirs (CX), but that all other SCS and carriers appear to have, in the scenario data at any rate, the common designation CS instead of their normal designations (CV, CVL, BB, CA). I would be interested in knowing why that is the case.

I suppose that this is because all CS counters are mandatory in the game, and that the rest CL, CX are options.

CS (capital ship) was created by Chris when he wrote CWIF. When I added Cruisers in Flames and Convoys in Flame, I used the more specific CL and CX for the reason Patrice gave. It lets me skip over those units during setup if the corresponding optional rule is not in use. CWIF did the same with other optional units (e.g., divisional units, partisans, etc.).

I noticed that there is at least one case of a duplicate ship name, but the country of origin is different so it shouldn't be a problem: Canberra.

Internally, all the naval units are stored with the specific type (e.g., carrier, light carrier, ASW carrier, battleship, cruiser, light cruiser, auxiliary cruiser, etc.). That level of detail isn't needed during setup - if the names are unique within country.

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RE: Scenario Data - 5/17/2007 11:44:03 AM   
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However, it brings up the question of lend leasing aircraft prior to the random draw for setups. This applies especially to the later scenarios where a lot of units are available to the various major powers through lend lease. The only possibility for how to do this that occurs to me is to provide the players with a lend lease phase - perhaps that could be attached to the scrap phase, where each major power, as part of his scrap units prior to randomly drawing units, is given the opportunity to ask his allies for lend lease air units. This is an extra step during setup (yuck) but it seems necessary. Without that step, players would be denied the opportunity to draw any lend lease air units until the 1st production phase, and they wouldn´t actually see the units on the map for several turns later.

I think this is necessary too.
The source country should be able to see which aircrafts he can lend and to who. And the destination country the same.
The destination country should ba able to express his will to acquire one plane. The source country should then see all possible acquiring country, and choose which one has it.

This whole step should be in one dialog, and this dialog should be able to be called just before setup, and just before producing units.

I have to think about this. I am tempted to just create a presetup phase that can be executed by all major powers simultaneously. Each major power would be able to request and/or give lend lease air units to other major powers. Of course this would be skipped in some scenarios (e.g., Barbarossa) and for some major powers (e.g., Japan).


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RE: Scenario Data - 5/17/2007 5:15:28 PM   
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I noticed that there is at least one case of a duplicate ship name, but the country of origin is different so it shouldn't be a problem: Canberra.


http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-usn/usnsh-c/ca70.htm (USS Canberra, CA-70)

http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/kent_class.htm (HMAS Canberra, Kent class) Lost off Guadalcanal, Battle of Savo Island.

Wiki quote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMAS_Canberra_(1927)

quote:

American President Franklin Delano Roosevelt wished to commemorate the loss of HMAS Canberra and made a special request that an under construction American heavy cruiser be renamed as a tribute. A Baltimore class cruiser previously designated as Pittsburgh was renamed, and the USS Canberra was launched on 19 April 1943. The ship was launched by Lady Alice C. Dixon, wife of Sir Owen Dixon, Australia's ambassador to the United States. Since there was a policy not to duplicate names across the Allied fleets, this meant that none of the ships in the Australian navy could be renamed HMAS Canberra.


Do you mention the dupe name because of game engine concerns? (Like captured coloring?)



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RE: Scenario Data - 5/18/2007 6:12:24 AM   
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I am now in Switzerland


Welcome to Europe!

For me, (from Hawaii) Europe is like standing on my head. The time difference is exactly 12 hours - my body is badly confused.

I suggest a massive, Boris Yeltsin style bender; staying out till nearly dawn. That should see you right.

Cheers, Neilster

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RE: Scenario Data - 5/18/2007 6:22:37 AM   
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The double ´ are needed to differentiate from the single ´ which is used as a delimiter.


Tell me about it. I'm helping to translate a large JScript project into Java. It involves, among other things, zillions of escape sequences being inserted and zillions of single quotes being replaced by double quotes in zillions of strings that are being appended together to form HTML.

Actually, it's not so bad. There's a lot of other re-jigging going on too. It's quite interesting. Some bits are almost just a cut and paste. Others require a total re-write.

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RE: Scenario Data - 5/18/2007 7:16:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		// Fascist Tide Italian ships Alpabetical within class

'CS Conte Di Cavour', 'CS Duca D''Aosta', 'CS Garibaldi',
'CS Trento', 'CS Zara', 'CS Abruzzi', 'CS Bolzano',
'CS Eugenio Di Savoia', 'CS Fiume', 'CS Gorizia', 'CS Pola',
'CS San Giorgio', 'CS Trieste', ''CL Attendolo', 'CL Bande Nere',
'CL Barbiano', 'CL Bari', CL Cadorna', 'CL Colleoni', 'CL Diaz',
'CL Guissano',  'CL Montecuccoli', 'CL Taranto',

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RE: Scenario Data - 5/21/2007 9:43:38 PM   
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// Fascist Tide Italian ships Alpabetical within class

'CS Conte Di Cavour', 'CS Duca D''Aosta', 'CS Garibaldi',
'CS Trento', 'CS Zara', 'CS Abruzzi', 'CS Bolzano',
'CS Eugenio Di Savoia', 'CS Fiume', 'CS Gorizia', 'CS Pola',
'CS San Giorgio', 'CS Trieste', ''CL Attendolo', 'CL Bande Nere',
'CL Barbiano', 'CL Bari', CL Cadorna', 'CL Colleoni', 'CL Diaz',
'CL Guissano',  'CL Montecuccoli', 'CL Taranto',


I'll check the original when I get home. It looks like a double quote should be a single and a single is missing later.

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RE: Scenario Data - 5/21/2007 9:55:31 PM   
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I'll check the original when I get home. It looks like a double quote should be a single and a single is missing later.

Good catch.
I was wondering since days, why Mzlin had posted this .

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RE: Scenario Data - 5/22/2007 1:18:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		// Fascist Tide Commonwealth ships Alphabetical within class within country

Europe

'[United Kingdom]', 'CS Ark Royal', 'CS Argus', 'CS Courageous',
'CS Hermes', 'CS Furious','CS Barham', 'CS Nelson', 'CS Ramillies',
'CS Resolution', 'CS Revenge','CS Rodney', 'CS Royal Oak',
'CS Royal Sovereign', 'CS Warspite', 'CS Hood', 'CS Renown',
'CS Repulse', 'CS Belfast', 'CS Edinburgh', 'CS Effingham',
'CS Exeter', 'CS Glasgow', 'CS Hawkins', 'CS Newcastle',
'CS Norfolk', 'CS Sheffield', 'CS Southampton', 'CS York', 'CL Arethusa',
'CL Aurora', 'CL Carlisle', 'CL Cairo', 'CL Calcutta', 'CL Caledon',
'CL Calypso', 'CL Capetown', 'CL Caradoc', 'CL Cardiff', 'CL Ceres',
'CL Colombo', 'CL Curlew', 'CL Delhi', 'CL Diomede', 'CL Dragon',
'CL Dunedin', 'CL Emerald', 'CL Enterprise', 'CL Galatea', 'CL Penelope'

USA East Coast

'[United Kingdom]', 'CS Berwick', 'CS Cumberland', 'CL Ajax', 'CL Danae',
'CL Durban', 'CL Despatch', 'CL Dauntless', 'CL Neptune', 'CL Orion',
'[Australia]', 'CL Perth', '[New Zealand]', 'CL Achilles'

Construction Pool

'[United Kingdom]', 'CS Formidable', 'CS Victorious', 'CS Iron Duke',
'CS King George V', 'CS Prince of Wales', 'CS Kenya', 'CS Mauritius',
'CS Nigeria', 'CL Dido', 'CL Euryalus', 'CL Hermione', 'CL Naiad',
'CL Phoebe'

Repair Pool

'[United Kingdom]', 'CS Queen Elizabeth', 'CS London', 'CS Frobisher',
'CS Suffolk', 'CL Curacoa'

Transfer Pool

'[United Kingdom]', 'CS Glorius', 'CS Eagle', 'CS Malaya', 'CS Kent',
'CS Manchester', 'CS Birmingham', 'CS Cornwall', 'CS Devonshire',
'CS Dorsetshire', 'CS Gloucester', 'CS Liverpool', 'CS Sussex', 'CL Coventry',
'[Australia]', 'CS Australia', 'CS Canberra', 'CS Shropshire', 'CL Adelaide',
'CL Sydney', 'CL Hobart', '[New Zealand]', 'CL Leander'

 

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RE: Scenario Data - 5/22/2007 2:24:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I believe I have the best solution to handling lend lease units prior to the start of each scenario.

- Rather than create a new phase, which would have some repercussions on a lot of other code, I'll just insert a check before the first major power on each side.

- The check will search for all major powers on the side that can lend or receive lend lease air units at the start of the scenario. Each of those major powers that can receive a lend lease air units will be able to make requests for same.

- Then each major power that can lend lease air units will be given the opportunity to grant or deny the requests.

This design will cause the 'phase' to only occur at most twice per game. Sometimes it will be skipped entirely. Some examples:

- Barbarossa will skip the phase entirely.
- Guadalcanal will only invovle the CW and USA. [In fact, Japan will never see these screens at all.]
- Global War wil not have any Axis phase since the Italian lendlease units arrive after 1939. For the Allied side, only a few US air units will be available for the CW to request.
- Brute force has the major power setup sequence of: China/USSR/Italy/... So, China initiates the lend lease phase for the Allied side and Ialy does the same for the Axis side.

I have to design a form for requesting and granting/denying lend lease requests, but it should be fairly simple to do. the form will list all available lend lease units for each major power that can 'borrow' a unit, the requester checks a box requesting a unit, and the lender checks says yea or nay.


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RE: Scenario Data - 5/22/2007 7:01:40 PM   
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Europe, ['CS Béarn', 'CS Bretagne', 'CS Dunkerque',
'CS Jean Bart', 'CS Lorraine', 'CS Provence', 'CS Strasbourg',
'CS Algérie', 'CS Duguay Trouin', 'CS Dupleix', 'CS Duquesne',
'CS Colbert', 'CS Foch', 'CS Primaguet', 'CS Suffren',
'CS Tourville', 'CL Emile Bertin', 'CL G. Leygues',
'CL Galissonniere', 'CL Gloire', 'CL Jean de Vienne',
'CL Jeanne D''Arc', 'CL Marseillaise', 'CL Montcalm'

Just a FYI: I am desk checking the information for the entire scenario.

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RE: Scenario Data - 5/22/2007 8:05:08 PM   
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- The check will search for all major powers on the side that can lend or receive lend lease air units at the start of the scenario. Each of those major powers that can receive a lend lease air units will be able to make requests for same.

- Then each major power that can lend lease air units will be given the opportunity to grant or deny the requests.

This design will cause the 'phase' to only occur at most twice per game.


Sounds like a very good solution.

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RE: Scenario Data - 5/22/2007 8:23:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		France should also be eligible to request air units in 1939 from the USA, not that there is much point in either CW or France getting loaned the crap that the Americans have in '39.

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RE: Scenario Data - 5/22/2007 8:54:45 PM   
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France should also be eligible to request air units in 1939 from the USA, not that there is much point in either CW or France getting loaned the crap that the Americans have in '39.

The crap the USA have in 1939 have the sole Allied FTR that can reach the Sea Box Section 2 (Buffalo & P-40C), and good bombers (A-20A & A-22) that are at least as good as what the Allies also have in the same timeframes.
I'm not saying that they are "must have", but they are not just "crap" IMO.

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RE: Scenario Data - 5/23/2007 10:48:18 AM   
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// Fascist Tide French ships Alphabetical within class

Europe, ['CS Béarn', 'CS Bretagne', 'CS Dunkerque',
'CS Jean Bart', 'CS Lorraine', 'CS Provence', 'CS Strasbourg',
'CS Algérie', 'CS Duguay Trouin', 'CS Dupleix', 'CS Duquesne',
'CS Colbert', 'CS Foch', 'CS Primaguet', 'CS Suffren',
'CS Tourville', 'CL Emile Bertin', 'CL G. Leygues',
'CL Galissonniere', 'CL Gloire', 'CL Jean de Vienne',
'CL Jeanne D''Arc', 'CL Marseillaise', 'CL Montcalm'

Just a FYI: I am desk checking the information for the entire scenario.

Thanks. I still have one more to type in when I get back to Hawaii.

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RE: Scenario Data - 5/23/2007 6:08:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		// Fascist Tide German ships Alphabetical within class

'CS Schlesien', 'CS Schleswig-Holstein','CS Gneisenau',
'CS Scharnhorst', 'CS Admiral Hipper', 'CL Königsberg',
'CL Nürnberg', 'CS Deutschland', 'CS Blücher', 'CS Graf Spee',
'CL Emden', 'CL Karlsruhe', 'CL Köln', 'CL Leipzig'


Question: Is it too much work to add the class Battlefrusier to MWiF?

For example (and there are more): 'CS Hood', 'CS Renown', 'CS Repulse', 'CS Gneisenau', and 'CS Scharnhorst' are Battlecrusiers not Battleships.

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RE: Scenario Data - 5/24/2007 10:06:29 AM   
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// Fascist Tide German ships Alphabetical within class

'CS Schlesien', 'CS Schleswig-Holstein','CS Gneisenau',
'CS Scharnhorst', 'CS Admiral Hipper', 'CL Königsberg',
'CL Nürnberg', 'CS Deutschland', 'CS Blücher', 'CS Graf Spee',
'CL Emden', 'CL Karlsruhe', 'CL Köln', 'CL Leipzig'


Question: Is it too much work to add the class Battlefrusier to MWiF?

For example (and there are more): 'CS Hood', 'CS Renown', 'CS Repulse', 'CS Gneisenau', and 'CS Scharnhorst' are Battlecrusiers not Battleships.

It would be some work, so I would prefer not to.

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RE: Scenario Data - 6/3/2007 11:47:42 PM   
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// ****************************************************************************
// Tenth scenario
// ****************************************************************************
scDeclineAndFall:
begin
case MCIndex of
mcChina: // Decline and Fall
begin
if SettingupCommunists then
AddGroupSimple(lCommunist, ['[Communist China]', 'HQ Mao',
'IN 2', 'MI 2', 'GA 2', 'CA 1', 'PT 1', '[Div]', 'IN 1'])
else
begin
AddGroupCountry(['China'], ['[Nationalist China]', 'HQ Chiang',
'HQ Stilwell', 'IN 4', 'MI 4', 'GA 3', 'CA 2', 'F2 1', 'L3 1',
'PI 2', '[Div]', 'AT 3', 'IN 1', 'MO 1', '[China]', 'OI 1']);

AddGroupCountry(['Burma'], ['[Nationalist China]', 'IN 1']);
end;
end;

mcJapan: // Decline and Fall
begin
AddGroupCountry(['Japan'], ['IN 1', 'MI 4', 'F2 2/1', 'PI 2',
'AT 2', '[Div]', 'EN 1']);

AddGroupCountry(['Manchuria', 'Korea'], ['HQ Terauchi', 'ME 1',
'IN 1', 'GA 2', '[Div]', 'AT 1', 'IN 1', 'TE 2']);

AddGroupCountry(['Siam'], ['[Siam]', 'MI 1']);

AddGroupCountry(['Burma'], ['HQ Yamashita', 'IN 1']);

AddGroupCountry(['China'], ['HQ Hata', 'HQ Umezu', 'IN 2', 'MI 4',
'GA 2', 'AT 2', '[Div]', 'IN 2', 'F2 1', 'L2 1', 'L3 1', 'PI 3']);

AddGroupSimple(lPacificAsia, ['HQ Yamamoto', 'MO 1', 'IN 5', 'GA 2',
'MA 1', 'F2 2/1', 'L2 1/2', 'L3 1/1', 'N2 3/1', 'N3 2', 'N4 0/1',
'A3 0/1', 'PI 9', '[Div]', 'AT 1', 'MA 1', 'OI 3', 'ASW 2',
'CS Hiyo', 'CS Junyo', 'CS Shokaku', 'CS Taiho', 'CS Zuikaku',
'CS Chitose', 'CS Chiyoda', 'CS Hosho', 'CS Hyuga', 'CS Kaiyo',
'CS Ryuho', 'CS Shinyo', 'CS Taiyo', 'CS Unyo', 'CS Zuiho',
'CS Fuso', 'CS Kongo', 'CS Nagato', 'CS Yamato', 'CS Haruna',
'CS Musashi', 'CS Yamashiro', 'CS Atago', 'CS Mogami', 'CS Myoko',
'CS Oyodo', 'CS Tone', 'CS Aoba', 'CS Ashigara', 'CS Chikuma',
'CS Chokai', 'CS Haguro', 'CS Kumano', 'CS Nachi', 'CS Suzuya',
'CS Takao', 'CL Natori', 'CL Oi', 'CL Yura', 'CL Abukuma',
'CL Isuzu', 'CL Kashii', 'CL Kashima', 'CL Kinu', 'CL Kiso',
'CL Kitakami', 'CL Nagara', 'CL Noshiro', 'CL Tama',
'NT 1', 'AM 1', 'SU 3', 'CN 14', 'CP 13/11', 'CL Ping Hai']);

AddGroupConstructionPool(['CS Ibuki', 'SU 1']);

AddGroupRepairPool(['CS Asama', 'CS Idzumo', 'CS Maya']);

AddGroupProduction(tJulAug, 1944, False, ['CS Amagi', 'CS Unryu',
'F2 1', 'PI 1', 'CP 2/1', 'CN 2', '[Down]', 'ASW 1']);

AddGroupProduction(tSepOct, 1944, False, ['N3 1', 'PI 1',
'CS Katsuragi', '[Down]', 'CS Kasagi', 'CN 2', 'CP 1/1']);

AddGroupProduction(tNovDec, 1944, False, ['CS Shinano', '[Down]',
'CL Sakawa', 'CS Aso', 'CS Ikoma', 'CP 1/1']);
end;

mcGermany: // Decline and Fall
begin
AddGroupCountry(['USSR', 'NOT Karelia', 'Poland', 'Latvia',
'Estonia', 'Lithuania', 'Rumania'], ['[Germany]',
'HQ Model', 'HQ Manstein', 'HQ von Bock', 'HQ von Leeb',
'AR 4', 'ME 5', 'MO 4', 'IN 15', 'MI 3',
'[Div]', 'AT 4', 'IN 1', 'ME 1', 'MT 1', 'RO 2',
'F2 2/1', 'F3 1', 'L2 1/1', 'L3 1/1', 'PI 4',
'[German SS]', '[Corps]', 'AR 1', 'ME 1', 'IN 1',
'[Hungary]', 'IN 2',
'[Rumania]', 'IN 1', 'CA 1', 'MT 1', 'F2 0/1', 'L2 0/1']);

AddGroupCountry(['Germany'], ['[Germany]', 'AR 1', 'MI 1',
'F2 3/1', 'F3 1', 'A4 1', 'PI 5', '[Div]', 'AT 1',
'EN 1', 'OI 2', 'ASW 1', 'SY 2']);

AddGroupCountry(['Free France', 'NOT Vichy France', 'Belgium'],
['[Germany]', 'HQ Rommel']);

AddGroupCountry(['Netherlands'], ['[Germany]', 'HQ Rundstedt',
'ME 1', 'MO 1', 'IN 2', 'GA 2', 'PA 1',
'[Div]', 'AT 2', 'IN 1', 'FT 5',
'[German SS]', '[Corps]', 'AR 1', 'ME 1']);

AddGroupCountry(['Denmark', 'Norway', 'Finland'], ['[Germany]',
'AR 1', 'ME 1', 'GA 2', 'MT 1', 'N4 1', 'PI 1']);

AddGroupCountry(['Greece', 'Yugoslavia'], ['[Germany]', 'MI 2',
'GA 2', 'MT 1',
'[Bulgaria]', 'IN 1']);

AddGroupCountry(['Finland', 'Karelia'], ['[Finland]',
'HQ Mannerheim', 'ME 1', 'MO 1', 'IN 2', 'MI 1', 'F2 1',
'CL Vainamoinen', '[Germany]', 'PI 1']);

AddGroupCountry(['Bulgaria'], ['[Bulgaria]', 'IN 1', 'MI 1', 'L2 1',
'[Germany]', 'PI 1']);

AddGroupCountry(['Hungary'], ['[Hungary]', 'MO 1', 'MI 1', 'CA 1',
'F2 0/1']);

AddGroupCountry(['Rumania'], ['[Rumania]', 'HQ Antonescu', 'ME 1',
'IN 1', 'MI 2', 'CS Destroyer Flotilla', '[Germany]', 'CN 1']);

AddGroupCountry(['Italy'], ['[Germany]', 'HQ Kesselring', 'AR 1',
'MO 1', 'MT 1', 'F2 1', 'PI 1',
'CS Conte Di Cavour', 'CL Galissonniere', 'CL Taranto', 'CN 1',
'[Italian]', 'NT 1']);

AddGroupSimple(lEuropeNoMed, ['[Germany]', 'PA 1', 'F2 1/2',
'F3 1/1', 'L3 1/2', 'L4 1',
'N3 1/1', 'A3 1/1', 'PI 6', 'AT 1', '[Div]', 'AR 1', 'FT 2',
'CS Schlesien', 'CS Schleswig-Holstein', 'CS Tirpitz',
'CS Admiral Hipper', 'CS Deutschland', 'CS Prinz Eugen',
'CS Admiral Scheer', 'CS Tordenskjold', 'CL Nürnberg', 'CL Emden',
'CL Köln', 'CL Leipzig', 'NT 1', 'SU 13', 'CN 7']);

AddGroupConstructionPool(['CS Graf Zeppelin', 'CS Seydlitz', 'SU 1',
'CS Clemenceau', 'CS Gascoigne', 'CS Impero']);

AddGroupRepairPool(['[Germany]', 'CS Gneisenau', 'CS Niels Juel',
'CS Peder Skram', 'CX Hansa', 'CX Orion', 'CX Widder']);

AddGroupProduction(tJulAug, 1944, False, ['[Germany]', 'ME 1',
'MO 1', 'IN 3', 'GA 2', 'F2 2', 'L2 1', 'PI 3',
'CS Harald Haarfagre', 'SU 1',
'[German SS]', 'MT 1']);

AddGroupProduction(tSepOct, 1944, False, ['[Germany]', 'L3 1',
'PI 1', 'SU 1',
'[German SS]', '[Corps]', 'AR 1']);

AddGroupProduction(tNovDec, 1944, True, ['[Germany]', 'AR 1',
'CS De Zeven Prov.']);
end;

mcFrance: // Decline and Fall
begin
AddGroupCountry(['Algeria', 'Morocco', 'Tunisia'], ['[Free France]',
'IN 1', 'AT 1', '[Div]', 'IN 1']);

AddGroupCountry(['Italy'], ['[Free France]', 'MT 1', 'AT 1',
'[Div]', 'MT 1']);

AddGroupSimple(lEurope, ['[Free France]', 'HQ De Gaulle',
'CS Paris', 'CS Lorraine', 'CS Tourville', 'CS Duguay Trouin',
'CS Duquesne', 'CS Suffren', 'CL Jeanne D''Arc', 'CL Africano',
'CL Emile Bertin', 'CL G. Leygues', 'CL Gloire', 'CL Montcalm',
'CL Regolo', 'SU 1', 'NT 1', 'CN 7',
'[Div]', 'AT 1', 'AR 1', 'OI 1', 'PT 2']);

AddGroupConstructionPool(['[Free France]', 'CS Jean Bart (II)']);

AddGroupRepairPool(['[Free France]', 'ME 1']);
end;


mcUSSR: // Decline and Fall
begin
AddGroupSimple(lEurope, ['HQ Koniev', 'HQ Rokossovsky',
'HQ Timoshenko', 'HQ Yeremenko', 'HQ Zhukov', 'AR 6', 'ME 7',
'MO 4', 'IN 25', 'MI 7', 'GA 6', 'CA 2', 'MT 1', 'PA 1',
'F2 6/5', 'L2 3/1', 'L3 2/1', 'L4 1/1', 'AT 3', 'PI 13', 'OF 1',
'SU 2', '[Div]', 'AT 6', 'IN 2', 'MO 1', 'MT 1', 'ME 1', 'EN 2',
'PT 3', 'SK 1', 'FT 6']);

AddGroupPorts('Baltic Sea', ['CS Kirov', 'CS Maxim Gorkiy',
'CS Oktyabr''skaya Revolutsiya']);

AddGroupPorts('Black Sea', ['CS Krasnyi Kavkaz', 'CL Krasni Krym']);

AddGroupSimple(lPacificAsia, ['MO 1', 'GA 2', 'CA 1', 'SU 2',
'[Div]', 'CA 1', 'CS Kaganovich', 'CS Kalinin']);

AddGroupSimple(lAny, ['F2 1', 'L3 1', 'PI 2', 'OF 1', 'NT 1',
'CN 4', '[Div]', 'AT 2', 'AR 1', 'PQ 1', 'OI 6', 'ASW 1']);

AddGroupConstructionPool(['CS Chapayev', 'CS Frunze',
'CS Kuibyshev', 'CS Zhelezniakov']);

AddGroupRepairPool(['CS Molotov', 'CS Krasni Kavkaz',
'CS Voroshilov']);

AddGroupProduction(tJulAug, 1944, True, ['ME 1', 'F2 1', 'L2 1',
'PI 2', 'AT 1']);
end;

mcCommonwealth: // Decline and Fall
begin
AddGroupCountry(['United Kingdom'], ['[United Kingdom]',
'HQ Montgomery', 'AR 2', 'ME 1', 'MO 2', 'MI 1', 'GA 1', 'PA 1',
'F2 3/1', 'L3 2/1', 'L4 2/1', 'N3 0/1', 'N4 0/1', 'PI 9',
'[Div]', 'AT 3', 'AR 1', 'MO 1',
'[Corps]', '[Canada]', 'AR 1', 'F2 1/1', 'L4 1',
'[Commonwealth]', 'OI 2']);

AddGroupCountry(['Egypt', 'Malta', 'Libya', 'Gibraltar', 'Tunisia'],
['[United Kingdom]', 'ME 1', 'IN 1', '[Div]', 'AT 1', 'TE 2',
'FT 1',
'[Commonwealth]', 'OI 1']);

AddGroupCountry(['Italy'], ['[United Kingdom]', 'HQ Alexander',
'AR 1', 'ME 1', 'IN 1', '[Div]', 'AT 2', 'IN 1',
'F2 1', 'L3 1', 'PI 2',
'[Corps]', '[Canada]', 'MO 1',
'[Poland]', 'IN 1']);

AddGroupSimple(lAfrica, ['[United Kingdom]', 'IN 1',
'[South Africa]', 'IN 1', 'TE 2']);

AddGroupSimple(lEurope, ['[United Kingdom]', 'CS Formidable',
'CS Furious', 'CS Indefatigable', 'CS Indomitable',
'CS Victorious', 'CS Nelson', 'CS Warspite', 'CS Ramillies',
'CS Rodney', 'CS Duke of York', 'CS Kent', 'CS Belfast',
'CS Bermuda', 'CS Berwick', 'CS Ceylon', 'CS Cumberland',
'CS Glasgow', 'CS Howe', 'CS Jamaica', 'CS Kenya', 'CS Mauritius',
'CS Nigeria', 'CS Sheffield', 'CS SwiftSure', 'CL Ajax',
'CL Arethusa', 'CL Carlisle', 'CL Danae', 'CL Dido', 'CL Durban',
'CL Royalist', 'CL Argonaut', 'CL Aurora', 'CL Bellona',
'CL Black Prince', 'CL Caledon', 'CL Caradoc', 'CL Cardiff',
'CL Cleopatra', 'CL Colombo', 'CL Dauntless', 'CL Delhi',
'CL Despatch', 'CL Diadem', 'CL Diomede', 'CL Dragon',
'CL Enterprise', 'CL Euryalus', 'CL Hermione', 'CL Neptune',
'CL Orion', 'CL Phoebe', 'CL Scylla', 'CL Sirius', 'CL Spartan',
'F2 0/1', 'F3 1/1', 'L2 0/1', 'L3 1', 'L4 1', 'N2 1/1', 'A3 /11',
'PI 5', '[Div]', 'PA 1', 'TE 2', 'ASW 9',
'[New Zealand]', 'CS Gambia',
'[Netherlands]', 'CS Sumatra',
'[Commonwealth]', 'CS Garibaldi', 'CS Abruzzi',
'CS Girgios Averoff', 'CL Cadorna', 'CL Magno',
'CL Montecuccoli']);

AddGroupCountry(['Australia'], ['[Australia]', 'ME 1', 'MI 1',
'TE 1', 'F3 1', 'N3 1', '[United Kingdom]', 'PI 2']);

AddGroupCountry(['India', 'Burma'], ['[United Kingdom]',
'HQ Wavell', 'IN 1', 'L3 1', 'PI 2', 'AT 1', 'TE 2',
'[India]', 'IN 2', 'MI 1', 'GA 1', 'F2 1',
'[Commonwealth]', 'OI 1']);

AddGroupCountry(['Papua'], ['[Australia]', 'IN 1']);

AddGroupSimple(lPacificAsia, ['[United Kingdom]', 'HQ Mountbatten',
'AT 1', 'ASW 2',
'CS Illustrious', 'CS Unicorn', 'CS Anson', 'CS Queen Elizabeth',
'CS Renown', 'CS Valiant', 'CS Hawkins', 'CS London',
'CS Devonshire', 'CS Frobisher', 'CS Suffolk', 'CS Sussex',
'CL Ceres', 'CL Emerald', 'CL Capetown',
'[Australia]', 'CS Australia', 'CS Shropshire', 'CL Adelaide',
'CL Hobart',
'[New Zealand]', 'F2 0/1', 'CL Achilles', 'CL Leander',
'[Netherlands]', 'CL Heemskerck', 'CL Tromp',
'[Commonwealth]', 'OI 1']);

AddGroupSimple(lAny, ['[United Kingdom]', 'F2 1', 'L3 1/1', 'N4 1',
'PI 3', 'OF 1', 'NT 5', 'AM 2', 'SU 4', 'CP 12/8',
'[Div]', 'EN 1', 'TE 2', 'ASW 3',
'[South Africa]', 'F2 0/1',
'[Commonwealth]', 'CN 63']);

AddGroupConstructionPool(['[United Kingdom]', 'CS Ontario',
'CS Perseus', 'CS Superb', 'CS Warrior', 'SU 1', 'ASW 1']);

AddGroupRepairPool(['[United Kingdom]', 'CS King George V',
'CS Resolution', 'CS Revenge', 'CS Norfolk', 'CS Argus',
'CS Malaya', 'CS Royal Sovereign', 'CS Birmingham',
'CS Liverpool', 'CS Newcastle', 'CS Newfoundland', 'CS Uganda']);

AddGroupProduction(tJulAug, 1944, True, ['[United Kingdom]',
'F2 1', 'PI 1', 'CS Ocean', 'CS Theseus', 'CN 2', '[Up]',
'ASW 1']);

AddGroupProduction(tSepOct, 1944, False, ['[United Kingdom]',
'CS Implacable', '[Down]', 'CS Terrible', 'CS Triumph',
'CS Defense', 'SU 1', 'CP 1/1',
'[Commonwealth]', 'CN 1']);

AddGroupProduction(tNovDec, 1944, True, ['[United Kingdom]',
'CS Vanguard', 'CS Magnificent', '[Up]', 'CS Colossus',
'CP 1/1']);

AddGroupProduction(tJanFeb, 1945, False, ['[United Kingdom',
'CS Pioneer', 'CS Venerable', 'CS Vengeance', '[Down]',
'CS Majestic', 'CS Powerful']);

AddGroupProduction(tMarApr, 1945, False, ['[United Kingdom]',
'CS Glory']);
end;

mcUnitedStates: // Decline and Fall
begin
AddGroupCountry(['Tunisia'], ['MO 1', '[Div]', 'IN 1']);

AddGroupCountry(['Italy'], ['HQ Clark', 'ME 1', 'AT 1', '[Div]',
'MT 1']);

AddGroupCountry(['United Kingdom'], ['HQ Eisenhower', 'HQ Bradley',
'ME 1', 'MO 2', 'PA 1', 'AT 3', '[Div]', 'EN 1', 'MO 1', 'SP 1']);

AddGroupSimple(lEuropeUSAEastCoast, ['F2 7/8', 'F3 1/2', 'L3 4/4',
'L4 3/4', 'N3 1/2', 'A3 1/1', 'PI 17', '[Div]', 'AT 1', 'EN 1',
'IN 1', 'ASW 9',
'CS Franklin', 'CS Hancock', 'CS Hornet II', 'CS Ranger',
'CS Ticonderoga', 'CS San Jacinto', 'CS Alaska', 'CS Iowa',
'CS Texas', 'CS Wisconsin', 'CS Arkansas', 'CS Missouri',
'CS Nevada', 'CS New Jersey', 'CS Augusta', 'CS Tuscaloosa',
'CL Trenton', 'CL Astoria II', 'CL Concord', 'CL Memphis',
'CL Milwaukee', 'CL Pasadena', 'CL Philadelphia', 'CL Savannah']);

AddGroupSimple(lPacific, ['HQ MacArthur', 'HQ Nimitz', 'IN 2',
'GA 1', 'MA 2', '[Div]', 'AT 1', 'MA 1', 'ASW 3',
'F2 3/1', 'L3 2/1', 'N2 3/2', 'N3 1/1', 'A3 1', 'PI 10',
'CS Bunker Hill', 'CS Enterprise', 'CS Essex', 'CS Intrepid',
'CS Saratoga', 'CS Wasp II', 'CS Yorktown II', 'CS Bataan',
'CS Belleau Wood', 'CS Cabot', 'CS Cowpens', 'CS Langley II',
'CS Monterey', 'CS Princeton', 'CS Maryland', 'CS Massachusetts',
'CS Mississippi', 'CS Pennsylvania', 'CS South Dakota',
'CS Tennessee', 'CS Washington', 'CS Alabama', 'CS California',
'CS Colorado', 'CS Idaho', 'CS Indiana', 'CS New Mexico',
'CS New York', 'CS North Carolina', 'CS Baltimore',
'CS New Orleans', 'CS Pensacola', 'CS Portland', 'CS Boston',
'CS Canberra', 'CS Chester', 'CS Indianapolis', 'CS Louisville',
'CS Minneapolis', 'CS Quincy II', 'CS Salt Lake City',
'CS San Francisco', 'CS Wichita', 'CL Brooklyn', 'CL Omaha',
'CL San Diego', 'CL St. Louis', 'CL Biloxi', 'CL Birmingham',
'CL Boise', 'CL Columbia', 'CL Detroit', 'CL Denver',
'CL Honolulu', 'CL Houston II', 'CL Juneau', 'CL Marblehead',
'CL Montpellier', 'CL Nashville', 'CL Oakland', 'CL Phoenix',
'CL Raleigh', 'CL Reno', 'CL Richmond', 'CL San Juan',
'CL Santa Fe', 'CL Vincennes II', 'NS 1']);
// ****************************************************************************
// Chinese or US controlled hexes on Pacfic map
// ****************************************************************************
AddGroupSimple(lPacificUSAChina, ['L4 1', 'PI 1', '[Div]', 'AR 1']);

AddGroupCountry(['United States'], [
'AR 4', 'ME 2', 'MO 4', 'MI 2', 'PA 1', '[Div]', 'AT 2', 'AR 1',
'SP 1', 'NS 1', 'F2 2', 'L4 1', 'PI 3']);

AddGroupCountry(['Brazil'], ['[Brazil]', 'ME 1', 'MO 1', 'IN 1',
'MI 1', 'CA 1', 'F2 1', 'CS Minas Gerais', 'CL Bahia',
'CS Sao Paulo', 'CS Floriano', 'CL Rio Grande',
'[United States]', 'PI 1']);

AddGroupSimple(lUSAEuropePacific, ['[Div]', 'PA 1', 'EN 1', 'ASW 3',
'OF 1', 'OI 9', 'NT 5', 'AM 3', 'SU 8', 'CN 94', 'CP 27/22']);

AddGroupConstructionPool(['CS Lake Champlain', 'CS Wyoming',
'CS Bremerton', 'ASW 1']);

AddGroupRepairPool(['CS Béarn', 'CS Lexington II','CL Cincinnati',
'CS Independence']);

AddGroupProduction(tJulAug, 1944, True, ['F2 1', 'L3 1', 'PI 2',
'CS Los Angeles', 'CS Columbus', 'CS Fall River',
'[Up]', 'CS Bennington', 'CL Flint', 'CL Wilkes-Barre', 'ASW 1',
'CP 1/1', 'CN 7']);

AddGroupProduction(tSepOct, 1944, False, ['MA 1', 'L4 1', 'PI 1',
'AT 1', 'CS Randolph', 'CS Shangri La', 'CS Guam',
'CS Pittsburgh', 'CL Duluth', 'CL Springfield', 'SU 1',
'[Down]', 'CS Franklin Delano Roosevelt', 'CS Midway', 'CS Macon',
'CL Little Rock', 'CL Portsmouth', 'CN 7', 'CP 2/2']);

AddGroupProduction(tNovDec, 1944, False, ['CS Bon Homme Richard',
'CL Atlanta II', 'CL Oklahome City',
'[Down]', 'CS Princeton II', 'CS Tarawa', 'CS Helena II',
'CN 6', 'CP 1/1']);

AddGroupProduction(tJanFeb, 1945, False, ['CS Antietam',
'CS St. Paul', 'CL Tucson', 'CS Chicago II', 'CL Dayton',
'CL Amsterdam', '[Down]', 'CL Fargo']);

AddGroupProduction(tMarApr, 1945, False, ['CS Boxer', '[Down]',
'CS Kearsage', 'CS Leyte', 'CS Hawaii']);
end;
end;
end;



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RE: Scenario Data - 6/4/2007 12:51:30 AM   
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quote:

The data for setting up the last scenario. The USA and CW sure have a lot of ships.


It would be fairly easy to test how much naval production was actually needed by swapping out about half the ships and replacing them with air and land units.

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RE: Scenario Data - 7/12/2007 9:02:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Where are the rest of the CW CP's for "Missed the Bus"?

AddGroupSimple(lAny, ['[United Kingdom]', 'IN 1', 'GA 1', 'NT 4',
'SU 2', 'CP 9/6', 'TE 1', '[Div]', 'AT 1', 'EN 1',
'[Commonwealth]', 'CN 93','OI 1', '[Norway]', 'NT 1']);

AddGroupProduction(tSepOct,
1940, False, [ '[India]', 'MO 1',
'[United Kingdom]', '[Div]', 'AR 1', 'CP 1/1', 'CS Formidable',
'CL Dido', 'CL Phoebe', '[Down]', 'CS Kenya', 'CS Mauritius',
'CL Charybdis','CL Sirius', 'ASW 1']);

AddGroupProduction(tMayJun, 1941, False, ['[United Kingdom]',
'CS Victorious', 'CP 1/1']);

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RE: Scenario Data - 7/12/2007 9:21:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mziln
Where are the rest of the CW CP's for "Missed the Bus"?

AddGroupSimple(lAny, ['[United Kingdom]', 'IN 1', 'GA 1', 'NT 4',
'SU 2', 'CP 9/6', 'TE 1', '[Div]', 'AT 1', 'EN 1',
'[Commonwealth]', 'CN 93','OI 1', '[Norway]', 'NT 1']);

AddGroupProduction(tSepOct,
1940, False, [ '[India]', 'MO 1',
'[United Kingdom]', '[Div]', 'AR 1', 'CP 1/1', 'CS Formidable',
'CL Dido', 'CL Phoebe', '[Down]', 'CS Kenya', 'CS Mauritius',
'CL Charybdis','CL Sirius', 'ASW 1']);

AddGroupProduction(tMayJun, 1941, False, ['[United Kingdom]',
'CS Victorious', 'CP 1/1']);

I have kept the codes the same as the ones Chris set up for scenario data in CWIF. They take a little getting used to, but they are actually quite good. CP is a merger of CVP & P from what you see in the Scenario spreadsheet. So CP 9/6 translates as CVP 9, P 6.

Convoys have the code CN. So the 93 British convoys is the entry CN 93.

The reasoning behind merging CVP and P is that during setup carrier pilots are separate from land based pilots (which have the code PI).

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RE: Scenario Data - 7/12/2007 9:24:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I notice in the "AddGroupSimple" entry that you mention, Mziln, there is an entry that reads 'CN 93' - could that be the convoy points?

edit: Never mind. Steve answered above.

< Message edited by composer99 -- 7/12/2007 9:25:07 PM >

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RE: Scenario Data - 7/12/2007 10:15:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was desk checking my excel spreadsheet vs. RAW7 scenarios.pdf and "Missed the bus: The end of the beginning (see 24.4.1)" is missing the CP. I didn't know CP is coded CN

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