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ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit
..mount and dismount gives the possibility of trucks (and ships) actually carrying things and so an accurate representation of several country's troop transport system, the French in Indochine for one, but most early war countries, not every one had the US glut of transport..but i like cavalry..

There is indeed that aspect. Think of the 101st Airborne in the Bulge. It's foot-bound, but was swiftly tranported to Bastogne by pool trucks. Then the trucks left it there. That sort of "truck-lift" is hard to model in TOAW. Mount/Dismount is one of the ways suggested.

But the main benefit is when you have a heavily motorized assault facing a mostly foot defense - and that defense sets itself up in terrain that motorized units can't enter, like badlands or dunes. A prime example of this is the Desert War: Italians on foot defending against the British on wheels. The British need to be able to "dismount". That's going to be the case in any Desert War scenario at almost any scale. Anyone who thinks the Desert War scenarios aren't popular is living a sheltered life.

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ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay

I think Boonierat was being facetious, but I'll jump in here and agree with Mario. A scenario can be operational in scale while being strategic in scope.

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ORIGINAL: Telumar

After spending the last evenings with the cumbersome scenario editor i thought it would be usefull to:

- have a better deployment editor, that means: to have a reinforcement list/arrival schedule in the editor (similar to that in-game) which is sortable by arrival turn, hex, formation, maybe unit type and which also shows withdrawals (see below). It's a pain to keep track of wether you already have exceeded the 9 unit limit per hex or not (especially if your reinforcements/formations arrive disrupted).

- to have some kind of unit/formation withdrawal independent from the event engine. This would also include a re-entry. It could be accessable via an enhanced deployment menue or via the formation report in the deployment mode.

- total overhaul of the so called deployment mode... it's painfull. I have 700+ units in approx. 140 formations and it is quite time (and nerve) consuming to click back and forth through the formations to get to this or that specific unit.. A hierarchical, expandable OOB would do miracles here. Anyone knows the COTA/AA series editor?

@ Ralph, James and TOAD team - Are there any plans to improve the editor GUI in general?

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ORIGINAL: Telumar
...to have a reinforcement list/arrival schedule in the editor (similar to that in-game) which is sortable by arrival turn, hex, formation, maybe unit type and which also shows withdrawals (see below). It's a pain to keep track of wether you already have exceeded the 9 unit limit per hex or not (especially if your reinforcements/formations arrive disrupted).

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ORIGINAL: ralphtrick

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ORIGINAL: Telumar

After spending the last evenings with the cumbersome scenario editor i thought it would be usefull to:

- have a better deployment editor, that means: to have a reinforcement list/arrival schedule in the editor (similar to that in-game) which is sortable by arrival turn, hex, formation, maybe unit type and which also shows withdrawals (see below). It's a pain to keep track of wether you already have exceeded the 9 unit limit per hex or not (especially if your reinforcements/formations arrive disrupted).

- to have some kind of unit/formation withdrawal independent from the event engine. This would also include a re-entry. It could be accessable via an enhanced deployment menue or via the formation report in the deployment mode.

- total overhaul of the so called deployment mode... it's painfull. I have 700+ units in approx. 140 formations and it is quite time (and nerve) consuming to click back and forth through the formations to get to this or that specific unit.. A hierarchical, expandable OOB would do miracles here. Anyone knows the COTA/AA series editor?

@ Ralph, James and TOAD team - Are there any plans to improve the editor GUI in general?

Check out the ODD thread.

http://www.tdg.nu/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?board=TOAW3


EDIT: Added which thread to look at.

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ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay
See 11.15.2

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ORIGINAL: Telumar

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ORIGINAL: ralphtrick

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ORIGINAL: Telumar

After spending the last evenings with the cumbersome scenario editor i thought it would be usefull to:

- have a better deployment editor, that means: to have a reinforcement list/arrival schedule in the editor (similar to that in-game) which is sortable by arrival turn, hex, formation, maybe unit type and which also shows withdrawals (see below). It's a pain to keep track of wether you already have exceeded the 9 unit limit per hex or not (especially if your reinforcements/formations arrive disrupted).

- to have some kind of unit/formation withdrawal independent from the event engine. This would also include a re-entry. It could be accessable via an enhanced deployment menue or via the formation report in the deployment mode.

- total overhaul of the so called deployment mode... it's painfull. I have 700+ units in approx. 140 formations and it is quite time (and nerve) consuming to click back and forth through the formations to get to this or that specific unit.. A hierarchical, expandable OOB would do miracles here. Anyone knows the COTA/AA series editor?

@ Ralph, James and TOAD team - Are there any plans to improve the editor GUI in general?

Check out the ODD thread.

http://www.tdg.nu/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?board=TOAW3


EDIT: Added which thread to look at.

Thanks Ralph, but that would be an external solution so to speak. However it wouldn't be possible without the new xml features you implemented. Nevermind, i think designers will like the new ODD.
But i still don't see an improved deployment mode..

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ORIGINAL: ralphtrick

I want to move the whole .sce file to XML and use an external editor eventually. There are so many things I would do differently with the editor that I want to rewrite it from scratch at some point as a stand-alone program.

Ralph

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ORIGINAL: ralphtrick

I'm doing more small changes than adding large chunks of functionality. If you know of any smaller things I can do, like adding an edit box to quickly filter the unit list, or other things like that, I'll be glad to think about adding them sooner. I don't use the editor, so it's hard to know what features would have the most 'bang for the buck.'

In the meantime, I'll throw those suggestions into my own todo list.

Ralph

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ORIGINAL: Telumar
What do you think of a non-event related unit and formation withdrawal? (Bob, can you add this to the wishlist?)

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ORIGINAL: Jo van der Pluym

Mayby is this something for the wishlist. I read on differend forums that people like to convert TOAW I scenario's to TOAW III. What about a tool like a scenario converter. That coverts TOAW I and TOAW II scenario's to TOAW III

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ORIGINAL: ralphtrick
I want to move the whole .sce file to XML and use an external editor eventually.

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There are so many things I would do differently with the editor that I want to rewrite it from scratch at some point as a stand-alone program. Since I'm planning to do that anyway, I'm doing more small changes than adding large chunks of functionality. If you know of any smaller things I can do, like adding an edit box to quickly filter the unit list, or other things like that, I'll be glad to think about adding them sooner. I don't use the editor, so it's hard to know what features would have the most 'bang for the buck.'

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In the meantime, I'll throw those suggestions into my own todo list.

Ralph

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ORIGINAL: sstevens06

Reviewing some scenario documentation I wrote a while ago I came across the following enhancement suggestion:

TOAW III should support “force-specific news strings;” i.e., the ability to specify which side gets to see each news string: Force 1, Force 2, or both.

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ORIGINAL: MPHopcroft

Now I seem to be unable to read the file (or download it properly) so I have no idea if these are on the suggestions list. But I have some odd ideas, mostly hyoptheticals.

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ORIGINAL: Monkeys Brain

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ORIGINAL: MPHopcroft

Now I seem to be unable to read the file (or download it properly) so I have no idea if these are on the suggestions list. But I have some odd ideas, mostly hyoptheticals.

1 WWII Might-have-beens: Japanese invasion scenarios of Australia ot the Hawaiian Islands; the Wehrmacht in the Berlin area attempting to stage a coup in the aftermath of an attempt on Hitler's life; The Germans invade Spain in an effort to sieze Gibraltar; the Societs invade Turkey to capture the Dardanelles and gain entry to the Mediterranean. All the things players of grand-strategic level games are insane enough to want to attempt, and you've been given the job of carrying them out.

2. WWII Historical Campaigns and battles: A scenraio nspecifically dealing with the Siege of Leningrad, with the Germans attempting to starve out the Sovciets because they aren't given enough troops to stage an assault; Mussolini's invasion of Abbysinia (with the risk of small-scale League of nations intervention should Mussolini failter); Patton's West African campaign and initial confrontation nwith Rommel at Kasserine ("Rommel, you maginificent bastard! I read your book!"); Japan's 1937 campaign in China culimating in the Rape of Nanking.

3. Period Conflicts: Mao's Long March to save what remained of his Communist Army from the Koumintang so he could fight another day (we don't see many scenarios where a strategic withdrawl is the victory condition in TOAW), China 1949 (the final confrotnationbetween mao and Chiang Kai-Shek in which he expelled the Kuomintang from Mainland China and established his dictatorship, er, "People's Republic"); any of the campaigns of the 1913-1919 Mexican Civil War, incluidng the abortive American intevrentions at Veracruz and Chihuahua; Heart of the Appalooza (the attempt by Thunder Rolling, aka Chief Jospeh, to lead the Nez Pearce from the lands they were being expelled from in Oregon and Idaho to what he imagined to be refuge in Canada, with the US army in hot pursuit -- thrice he stymied them on the battlefield before famine finally forced his surrender),

4. Period Hypothetiocals: Carter's Second Folly (A hypothetical attempt to resuce the hostages held in Tehran in 1980 and punish the Khomenbi regime; in effect, this would be the "October Surprise" feared by Republican political strategists during the 1980 campaign), And the Dominos Kept On Falling (in 1975, flush with their sudden success, the Khmer Rouge. Pathet lao and Vietnamese government attempt to conquer Burma and Thailand, foring another wildly unpopular American intervention).

4. Just for Sick Giggles: Blame Canada! (It's 2010, and the USA decides that Canada needs to be "pacified", so they send in troops, but only have limited resources to do it because of other commitments -- meanwhile, the Canadians put up a stiff fight and have the chance of help from the UK and other Commonwealth nations); I Lead the Revolution with Two Pistols (Hong Kong in 2012 attempts to throw off the yoke of China and establish itself as independent), We Told You We Weren't Kidding (a 2009 Chinese invasion of Taiwan), The Worst-Case Scenario (The US, with Indian help, must topple an Islamist revolutionary government in Pakistan beforre they can use or sell their nucelar arsenal), Guerra Civil Dos (Modern Mexico is shaken again by the throes of armed revolution, with individual units of the federal army chooisng sides resulting in a chaotic, bloody mess).

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit
. . . i'm at 6N 124E

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Norton

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ORIGINAL: ralphtrick
I want to move the whole .sce file to XML and use an external editor eventually.

How will this effect a) saved games and b) PBEM ones? Or, will it work the same way across the board?

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There are so many things I would do differently with the editor that I want to rewrite it from scratch at some point as a stand-alone program. Since I'm planning to do that anyway, I'm doing more small changes than adding large chunks of functionality. If you know of any smaller things I can do, like adding an edit box to quickly filter the unit list, or other things like that, I'll be glad to think about adding them sooner. I don't use the editor, so it's hard to know what features would have the most 'bang for the buck.'

Something along the ODD lines, or a whole new system?

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In the meantime, I'll throw those suggestions into my own todo list.

Ralph

Heh - if its like my todo list (not to mention the 'honeydo' one), it must encompass cutting down quite a few trees....

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ORIGINAL: rhinobones

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit
. . . i'm at 6N 124E

Looked it up, nice place to launch satellites into synchronous orbit. That probably explains some of the experimenting . . . the elephants too.

Regards, RhinoBones

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ORIGINAL: ralphtrick

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit
. . . i'm at 6N 124E

I'd love to retire in a place like that.

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ORIGINAL: rhinobones

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ORIGINAL: ralphtrick

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit
. . . i'm at 6N 124E

I'd love to retire in a place like that.

He says he grows cabbages . . . think about doing that for the rest of your life!