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NO HARPOON MISSILES???? - 2/16/2008 12:30:53 AM

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I am looking over the features for the game Hornet Leader and look over the featured weapon systems available. I see the AIM-7 (ancient, I say!)mentioned, but I couldn't find any mention America's primer anti-ship weapon---the AGM-84 Harpoon missile!

I hope I'm wrong, but since the feature didn't mention the Harpoon missile, this excellent weapon is not added. So doesn't the game incorporate anti-shipping mission as well?

I seek some clarification on this matter as I decide whether to buy this game. Thanks in advance...

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RE: NO HARPOON MISSILES???? - 2/16/2008 12:39:50 AM

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No anti-shipping, thus no Harpoons... And the AIM-7 was still in full use in 1986 and 1991 when two of the games campaigns take place.

I wouldn't buy it right now, if it were me. Some very nasty bugs have popped up in the latest patch, which significantly impact gameplay.

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RE: NO HARPOON MISSILES???? - 2/16/2008 1:19:44 AM

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Actually only a few bugs are present, and one is entirely avoidable. The other (with "invisible" bandits) doesn't happen all the time, and doesn't usually significantly impact play except with a few specific targets.

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RE: NO HARPOON MISSILES???? - 2/16/2008 3:50:32 AM

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Err---It's not in the manual, but the AGM-84 is in the game. It appears to be the SLAM version.

Also, isn't America's premier anti-ship weapon the MK-48 ADCAP?

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AGM-84 are available - 2/16/2008 5:35:52 AM

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Yes, as Tony mentioned, the AGM-84 SLAM is in the game. I'm always using Special Options Points to arm aircraft with them.

This following screenshot below is from the Libya 1986 Campaign:

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RE: AGM-84 are available - 2/16/2008 1:48:06 PM

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Yes, yes, bravo... The LAND ATTACK version of the Harpoon is in, and that's not what was asked about...

I'm still disappointed in Hornet Leader as it stands right now. It was a very fine game when it was released, and I played it with great enjoyment, but post-1.2 it's not as good anymore. The disappearing bandit/SAM site/wingman problem is not as negligible as some might think.

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RE: AGM-84 are available - 2/16/2008 6:39:39 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Yes, yes, bravo... The LAND ATTACK version of the Harpoon is in, and that's not what was asked about...

I'm aware of what the OP asked, which is why I simply confirmed the SLAM version of the AGM-84 is in the game, as pointed out by another poster.

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RE: AGM-84 are available - 2/29/2008 11:48:04 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Terminus

I'm still disappointed in Hornet Leader as it stands right now. It was a very fine game when it was released, and I played it with great enjoyment, but post-1.2 it's not as good anymore. The disappearing bandit/SAM site/wingman problem is not as negligible as some might think.

I was just about to reinstall this game on my new PC, had the disc all ready...

It goes back on the shelf again, sadly...

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RE: AGM-84 are available - 8/4/2008 12:35:23 PM

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Did Harpoon have land attack capability in 1986? I thought the SLAM was only introduced in the late 90's?

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RE: AGM-84 are available - 8/4/2008 3:20:28 PM

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From what i've read, it was introduced in the mid 80's sometime.

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RE: AGM-84 are available - 8/16/2008 9:38:30 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mack2

Did Harpoon have land attack capability in 1986? I thought the SLAM was only introduced in the late 90's?

According to the below link:

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-84.html

"Development of SLAM began in 1986 as an interim precision-attack missile pending delivery of the AGM-137 TSSAM (Tri-Service Standoff Attack Missile), and the first all-up AGM-84E rounds were delivered in November 1988. SLAM became operational with the U.S. Navy in 1990, just ready for a few missiles to be used in action in Operation Desert Storm in early 1991."

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