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This expansion - 6/8/2008 6:51:16 AM   
rhohltjr


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Status: offline 		Hey devs,

The current WitP patch is 1.806. So does this extension push vanila Witp to a differnent or higher patch number or is it strictly an extension without Witp bug fixes?

Is it a stand alone extention that could be used with Witp v1.0 ?

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RE: This expansion - 6/8/2008 6:55:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		It will have it's own version, AE is an expansion and will have nothing to do with any witp current install.

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RE: This expansion - 6/8/2008 4:12:25 PM   
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will have nothing to do with any witp current install.
  How can that be?   We (think we)understand that
AE will need Witp to be installed / present / somewhere in the universe.  
....nothing to do with any witp current install doesn't make sense.  Sounds like a total stand alone game.
Does it do a directory check of your hard drive to see if you've bought Witp and then proceed with install only if you have?
Hmmmmm?



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TF 85 troops securing a beachhead at Kota Bharu, 51,75
whew! I still feel better.

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RE: This expansion - 6/8/2008 4:23:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think he's refering to the version # that you have for WITP.  AE is not (imo) patch 1.9 (or whatever) but a seperate add on extension to WITP.

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RE: This expansion - 6/8/2008 4:41:14 PM   
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RE: This expansion - 6/9/2008 3:03:46 PM   
rhohltjr


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ORIGINAL: rjopel

I think he's refering to the version # that you have for WITP.  AE is not (imo) patch 1.9 (or whatever) but a seperate add on extension to WITP.


Therefore you could run AE with version 1.0 of Witp if you wanted to or dared to.

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Amphibious Assault at Kota Bharu
TF 85 troops securing a beachhead at Kota Bharu, 51,75
whew! I still feel better.

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RE: This expansion - 6/9/2008 3:07:00 PM   
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RE: This expansion - 6/9/2008 5:30:37 PM   
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RE: This expansion - 6/9/2008 7:15:18 PM   
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RE: This expansion - 6/9/2008 8:33:39 PM   
Rainer

 

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AE is an expansion and will have nothing to do with any witp current install


Then your short reply to rhohltjr doesn't make sense and rjohltjr is correct.

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RE: This expansion - 6/9/2008 8:48:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Prior posts have mentioned that the AE expansion will be an add on to WITP with its' latest (most recent) patch... It would therefore not work well on vanilla (un-patched) WITP as it had bugs you would not believe, (unless you had been there).

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RE: This expansion - 6/9/2008 9:02:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		AE is not an add-on; that implies it installs on top of stock WitP 1.806, which it doesn't.

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RE: This expansion - 6/9/2008 10:08:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Terminus

AE is not an add-on; that implies it installs on top of stock WitP 1.806, which it doesn't.


I admit it, I am now confused.

All along it has been implied that you needed WITP to play WITP-AE.

If this in fact is not the case, and as it appears in Terminus's post it isn't.

And the mob goes wild...


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RE: This expansion - 6/9/2008 10:41:15 PM   
Alexander Seil

 

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Status: offline 		If it has a different executable (which it naturally does), a different map, a different database and different scenarios (on a different map), why would you even need WitP? Seems like it should be stand-alone, with a discount for people owing WitP. There certainly shouldn't be any reason to keep TWO unrelated installs on the same PC if you only intend to play AE.

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RE: This expansion - 6/9/2008 10:54:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		It IS stand-alone. That's what we've been saying.

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RE: This expansion - 6/10/2008 12:39:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Think of it as a brand new game. You can run TOAW without Witp and you will be able to run AE without Witp

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RE: This expansion - 6/10/2008 1:00:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Terminus

It IS stand-alone. That's what we've been saying.


From the annoucement for WITP-AE.

The Admiral’s Edition expansion will require ownership of the original War in the Pacific game.
In the big picture this is a non-issue.

But I can see why people would be confused by the original annoucement and today's clearing the air by Terminus.

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RE: This expansion - 6/10/2008 1:12:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish


quote:

ORIGINAL: Terminus

It IS stand-alone. That's what we've been saying.


From the annoucement for WITP-AE.

The Admiral’s Edition expansion will require ownership of the original War in the Pacific game.
In the big picture this is a non-issue.

But I can see why people would be confused by the original annoucement and today's clearing the air by Terminus.


........and why the majority of us thought it to be an optional "add-on", like an ASL "add-on"...

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RE: This expansion - 6/10/2008 1:34:29 AM   
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< Message edited by Gem35 -- 6/10/2008 1:48:35 AM >

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RE: This expansion - 6/10/2008 2:24:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have told the AE team to desist from trying to interpret Matrix' words regarding the relationship of WITP and AE. The decisions are in Matrix' court, not the AE Team. We are building the game they decide how to market and package it.

Matrix may already have a plan here or they may wait and decide later - but feel free to read their words in the official press releases and intepret for yourself. We know no more than you guys about the meaning of these words.


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RE: This expansion - 6/10/2008 7:43:52 AM   
Erik Rutins

 

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Status: offline 		Seems like we had some confusion here. Let me reiterate what was in the press release to clear things up.

1. WITP AE will require WITP to be installed in order to install and play, but it does not require that the installation of WITP be updated, you could be running stock WITP v1.00 and that would be fine.
2. WITP AE will install in a separate location, so that you can still play the original WITP as well as the new WITP AE, once installed they will effectively function as separate games.

Regards,

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RE: This expansion - 6/10/2008 8:10:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Erik,

Thanks, for clearing up the confusion (even if it was only me).



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RE: This expansion - 6/10/2008 8:41:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you Erik for that it cleared some of the confusion. One question though will this be reflected in the cost of the final game i.e. as an add on?

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RE: This expansion - 6/10/2008 2:14:58 PM   
Erik Rutins

 

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Status: offline 		WITP AE will be priced lower than WITP, but we do not yet have an exact price point.

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RE: This expansion - 6/10/2008 2:24:54 PM   
Cmdrcain


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Status: offline 		Don't any own say like Civilization III?

If do, you bdo recall need have Civ III to have installed expansions Play the World or Conquests?

When installed the Expansions they installed into own folders under the Civ III Folder  but
do not use the Civ III  program files, they have own,  I would think AE will be something similar and install separate or
install under  the WITP folder as a sub folder but  AE will run on its own..

Many game expansions are like that,  you still can play  Civ III itself  or PTW or Conquests  as their own game.

So also WITP/AE





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RE: This expansion - 6/10/2008 2:51:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cmdrcain

Don't any own say like Civilization III?




there are other games out there??? not just Witp - dear lord

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RE: This expansion - 6/10/2008 3:13:22 PM   
rhohltjr


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ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish

Erik,

Thanks, for clearing up the confusion (even if it was only me).



As the original confusee, I also wish to thank Erik, for clearing it all up!!!

rhohltjr




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Amphibious Assault at Kota Bharu
TF 85 troops securing a beachhead at Kota Bharu, 51,75
whew! I still feel better.

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RE: This expansion - 6/12/2008 8:29:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

WITP AE will be priced lower than WITP, but we do not yet have an exact price point.


price point ?? Sounds like my Marketing class from 20 years ago... Thanks for the info

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RE: This expansion - 6/12/2008 9:15:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Hornblower


quote:

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

WITP AE will be priced lower than WITP, but we do not yet have an exact price point.


price point ?? Sounds like my Marketing class from 20 years ago... Thanks for the info



yup price point...it will end in like 59.99...not quite 60 bucks which sounds bad... but only 59.99 ohhhh that sounds soo much better.

I love marketing....

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RE: This expansion - 6/12/2008 9:55:14 AM   
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